₦airaland Forum

temitemi1:
Prof Barcanista, I must confess it is a privilege meeting a wonder person like u. I have learned a lots from u sir!

barcanista:
This article authored by me was first posted in the Opinion column of FCT Post, an online news agency. (www.fctpost.com/2015/07/16/nsa-before-it-becomes-northern-security-adviser/)

vedaxcool:
Dr. Clueless strategy of wiping ethnic sentiments is alive and kicking. I doubt much if Jonathan would happy with the poorly thought article he is paying protection seeker.

The simple question is, is mungono capable? Instead of being a smelly tribalist.

sebali:
Even though i agree with ur claim, I must say dat u re a biased human being. Wen Jona ur guy made a northerner(Dasuki) NSA, u didnt come 2 say dis y are u trying 2 mak buhari look bad.

temitemi1:
Prof Barcanista, I must confess it is a privilege meeting a wonderful person like u. I have learnt a lot from you sir!

barcanista:
The NSA is an acronym of National Security Adviser, one of the powerful and influential offices in government. Its role is very strategic and cannot be over-emphasized.

Buhari’s appointment of General Babangana Moguno as the National Security Adviser left one wondering whether the NSA is specially reserved for the northern part of the country just like its erstwhile predecessor the National Security Organization (NSO).

Decree number 27 of 1976 established the NSO by the military regime of General Olusegun Obasanjo, and was dissolved in July 1986 by the General Ibrahim Babangida regime. It had four Director-Generals throughout the 10years it existed. All four DGs were Northerners.

They were Abdulahi Muhammed (1976-79), Umaru Shinkafi (1979-83), Muhammed Rafindadi (1983-85) and Aliyu Gusau (1985-86). Technically the NSO was more or less Northern Security Organization.

Before Muhammadu Buhari took over the reins of power from Dr.Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, a total of five appointments and four people were made to occupy the office National Security Adviser since the return of civil rule in 1999. Three of the four were from the North with just one from the Southern part of the country.

They are…

1. Gen Aliyu Gusau (rtd) from Zamfara state (1999-June 2006)

2. Gen Abdullahi Sarki Mukhtar (rtd) from Kano state (June 2006-March 2010)

3. Gen Aliyu Gusau (rtd) from Zamfara state (March 2010-September 2010)

4. Gen Iwoye Azazi(rtd) from Bayelsa state (2010-2012)

5. Col Sambo Dasuki rtd from Sokoto state (2012-July 2015)

The naming of Borno state born Brig-Gen Babangana Moguno by President Muhammadu Buhari brings to question whether the office is specially reserved for Northerners or Northern Muslims? The question that bug my mind, is it wrong if President Buhari appoints a southerner into the office of the NSA?

Over the years, the south has produced fine and respectable men who by any standard are more than qualified to be appointed into that office. We have Rtd Colonel Kayode Are a former DG DSS under President Olusegun Obasanjo administration, who also served as “Deputy” NSA between April 2010 and October 2010 under Dr.Goodluck Jonathan.

There arre ex-Chief of Defense Staff Paul Dike and Oluseyi Pintirin. Ex-Chief of Army Staff Alexander Ogbemudia and Azubuike Ihejirika. We also have Ex-IGPs Musliu Smith, Ogbonaya Onovo and Mike Mbama Okiro from among the pool of brilliant retired military and police officers from the South.

Would it be a sin for any of these men to be appointed NSA? Even if the position is the exclusive of the north, must the candidate be a Northern Muslim? What happens to Non-Muslim northerners like the distinguished and globally celebrated Gen Martin Luthar Agwai?

Personally, I don’t believe in tribalizing or “regionalizing” political offices and I won’t indulge in that. But I believe that it is fair for the present government and succeeding ones to seriously look at the northernised office of the National Security Adviser so that Nigerians will not mistake the office to be “Northern Security Adviser”. Nigeria must get things right so as to give everyone a sense of belonging.

vedaxcool:
Dr. Clueless strategy of wiping ethnic sentiments is alive and kicking. I doubt much if Jonathan would happy with the poorly thought article he is paying protection seeker.

The simple question is, is mungono capable? Instead of being a smelly tribalist.

barcanista:
No! Moguno is not capable judging from his antecedent. Under his reign as Chief Defence Intelligence a boko haram major kingpin that was handed over to him by the police escaped from his custody which led to his redeployment to the Defence Hq in 2011. In fact, his exit from the CDI was greeted with joy. How is he capable?
Back to the subject, since when did competence of that office become an exclusive preserve of the North?

Whynotthetruth:
Mumu, the question should rather be; Does North have monopoly of smart, capable, and intelligent officers for the post?...And why would buhari if he's not the chief tribalist recall Daura who played an active role during campaigns as a politician from retirement to come head our foremost intelligence agency?...

barcanista:
What are the achievements of the Moguno of a man sef when he was the CDI? Pls comb the net whether you will find any

IbnSultaan:
we are Nigerians first

The NSA is given to a person the president believes will have the same picture in terms of policies and technicalities with him


STOP giving tribal COlOUR to issues

olapluto:
https://www.nairaland.com/2450708/lets-revisit-aliyu-tishau-boko
Boko Haram got worse and out of hand after Monguno was pushed out for Minimah. I expect you to spend more time educating yourself.

barcanista:
What are the achievements of the Moguno of a man sef when he was the CDI? Pls comb the net whether you will find any

olapluto:
You're not privy to this case my friend. Monguno's action on this BH kingpin is what makes him most suitable for NSA at this moment. Although I agree with you that there are many other fine officers who arent Northerner and are capable. However in this case, Monguno is the best for the position.
You can search for my thread on Aliyu Tishau and Monguno to educate yourself.

barcanista:
Minimah did not succeed Monguno. Minimah succeeded ihejirika as CDS. Moguno was phased out of the CDI position in 2011 and was retired in 2014. We are talking of events of 2011 and you are talking of his 2014 retirement. Use common sense

barcanista:
Comb the web and tell us ANY pÓsitive achievement that can be attributed to Moguno when he was CDI. I can list things written against him.

olapluto:
Minimah was favoured above Monguno. It came down to 2 people to succeed Ihejirika. Monguno was eased out to make way for Minimah. You are not using common sense my friend. You can only deceive the gullible folks who do not do research.

IbnSultaan:
we are Nigerians first

The NSA is given to a person the president believes will have the same picture in terms of policies and technicalities with him


STOP giving tribal COlOUR to issues

Whynotthetruth:
I need us to be realistic bro...I am the son of my father first before anything else...so I am an Igbo man before being a Nigerian...

All the personnel's in the presidential cabinet are supposed to be men who have same picture in terms of policies and technicalities with him...so it is not exclusive to NSA...so why won't he then appoint all of them from daura if that's the case taking it that other regions are bereft of such professionals...

Religion and Ethnicity are indices that can't be ignored in Africa and Nigeria notwithstanding our delusion...

Buhari already sowed the seed for such distrust by recalling his kinsman who participated ACTIVELY during election campaigns as a politician from retirement to boss our foremost intelligence agency... Does it mean that the array of people in active service are incompetent?...Do you know what such act does to moral of workers?...Dogoyaro has already given tribal colour before anyone else So the citizens are only follow him

barcanista:
Whynotthetruth abeg na wetin this man de talk? I am talking of Moguno that was redeployed back to Defence Headquarters in 2011 because of his many Gaffs as CDI and he is talking Minimah.

Oga, make I explain to you.
1. Moguno was kicked out of CDI office in 2011 (not out of the Army).

2. Minimah was the GOC 81 Division Lagos as at then till 2013. He wasn't Moguno's successor.

3. Moguno was retired in 2014 along with other officers that were senior to Minimah when he was made CoAS in line with Army tradition.

4. There is no relationship between Moguno's many gaffs that led to his redeployment in 2011 and Minimah that was appointed CoAS in 2014.

Abeg get sense jare. I won't respond to you again on this.
Comprehension shouldnt be such a problem

olapluto:
You're not as intelligent as I supposed. You know nothing about the supposed gaffes (not gaffs) of Monguno, and you are ignorant of the situations surrounding the emergence of Minimah in 2014. You can continue wallowing in your ignorance. In Monguno, we have a very fine intelligence officer, heads above his contemporaries.

Moheat:
I know wisdom when I see one. Thumbs up Barcanista

Whynotthetruth:
Oga, you seem to be muddling up issues...Can you separate them as supposed and let me understand you more...I pray I won't be as daft and ignorant as barcanista

barcanista:
The NSA is an acronym of National Security Adviser, one of the powerful and influential offices in government. Its role is very strategic and cannot be over-emphasized.

Buhari’s appointment of General Babangana Moguno as the National Security Adviser left one wondering whether the NSA is specially reserved for the northern part of the country just like its erstwhile predecessor the National Security Organization (NSO).

Decree number 27 of 1976 established the NSO by the military regime of General Olusegun Obasanjo, and was dissolved in July 1986 by the General Ibrahim Babangida regime. It had four Director-Generals throughout the 10years it existed. All four DGs were Northerners.

They were Abdulahi Muhammed (1976-79), Umaru Shinkafi (1979-83), Muhammed Rafindadi (1983-85) and Aliyu Gusau (1985-86). Technically the NSO was more or less Northern Security Organization.

Before Muhammadu Buhari took over the reins of power from Dr.Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, a total of five appointments and four people were made to occupy the office National Security Adviser since the return of civil rule in 1999. Three of the four were from the North with just one from the Southern part of the country.

They are…

1. Gen Aliyu Gusau (rtd) from Zamfara state (1999-June 2006)

2. Gen Abdullahi Sarki Mukhtar (rtd) from Kano state (June 2006-March 2010)

3. Gen Aliyu Gusau (rtd) from Zamfara state (March 2010-September 2010)

4. Gen Iwoye Azazi(rtd) from Bayelsa state (2010-2012)

5. Col Sambo Dasuki rtd from Sokoto state (2012-July 2015)

The naming of Borno state born Brig-Gen Babangana Moguno by President Muhammadu Buhari brings to question whether the office is specially reserved for Northerners or Northern Muslims? The question that bug my mind, is it wrong if President Buhari appoints a southerner into the office of the NSA?

Over the years, the south has produced fine and respectable men who by any standard are more than qualified to be appointed into that office. We have Rtd Colonel Kayode Are a former DG DSS under President Olusegun Obasanjo administration, who also served as “Deputy” NSA between April 2010 and October 2010 under Dr.Goodluck Jonathan.

There arre ex-Chief of Defense Staff Paul Dike and Oluseyi Pintirin. Ex-Chief of Army Staff Alexander Ogbemudia and Azubuike Ihejirika. We also have Ex-IGPs Musliu Smith, Ogbonaya Onovo and Mike Mbama Okiro from among the pool of brilliant retired military and police officers from the South.

Would it be a sin for any of these men to be appointed NSA? Even if the position is the exclusive of the north, must the candidate be a Northern Muslim? What happens to Non-Muslim northerners like the distinguished and globally celebrated Gen Martin Luthar Agwai?

Personally, I don’t believe in tribalizing or “regionalizing” political offices and I won’t indulge in that. But I believe that it is fair for the present government and succeeding ones to seriously look at the northernised office of the National Security Adviser so that Nigerians will not mistake the office to be “Northern Security Adviser”. Nigeria must get things right so as to give everyone a sense of belonging.

Whynotthetruth:
I need us to be realistic bro...I am the son of my father first before anything else...so I am an Igbo man before being a Nigerian...

All the personnel's in the presidential cabinet are supposed to be men who have same picture in terms of policies and technicalities with him...so it is not exclusive to NSA...so why won't he then appoint all of them from daura if that's the case taking it that other regions are bereft of such professionals...

Religion and Ethnicity are indices that can't be ignored in Africa and Nigeria notwithstanding our delusion...

Buhari already sowed the seed for such distrust by recalling his kinsman who participated ACTIVELY during election campaigns as a politician from retirement to boss our foremost intelligence agency... Does it mean that the array of people in active service are incompetent?...Do you know what such act does to moral of workers?...Dogoyaro has already given tribal colour before anyone else So the citizens are only follow him

barcanista:
The President's SA, SSAs, Ministers and other appointees are also people that he should believe in. Does that mean we should keep quiet and allow a particular region "personalise" offices? Or does it mean that only people from the North can be trusted and made to fill the NSA office?