Bring it on. We kwarans knws how Kruk d Guy is, we are nt suprise

[size=14pt]They are all criminals
if we want to start digging up graves and closets. We will reopen Buhari's certificate case[/size]. Chase him to the mountain's

Is buhari school certificate not fake?

Tired of Naija politics....always claims and counter claims, i know coconut head Metusela will soon come out and yarn his usual trash about this issue. Meanwhile, they should folow the due procedure if all these are true instead of coming to the media to tell us, im interested in actions not news report all the time.

Okay!

nduchucks:
I urge everyone to read this article in its entirety to note the extend of the fraud perpetrated against Nigerians. It may very well be time to shut down the NASS, guard it with the army, and declare a state of emergency, until legitimate elections of the Senate President and his vice can be conducted as prescribed in the non fraudulent standing order.

This fraud is completely unacceptable.,

That's was why the traitor shifted the resumption till 28th of this month! I listened to Senator Eta Enang, former Chairman Senate Rules, ethics and business on Channels TV the other day, he emphatically stated that the election cannot stand, because the Standing rule was forged. And you know what this means, coming from a PDP senator. Saraki treachery has come to its ignoble end. Farewell to a forged Senate President!!!

nduchucks:


This is truly a criminal case which will be dealt with by the AG soon enough. Once the criminals responsible for the fake standing order see that their potential of being imprisoned with the support of majority of moral Nigerians has become very plausible, parade will change gear in NASS. A very short time will tell.

[url=lalasticlala.obinoscopy.OAM4J]I wonder why this has not yet made the FP.[/url]

Buhari fake certificate nko?

so was buhari's certificate

Bollove:
You folks behave more silly than necessary ...

what is fraudulent about Saraki's emergence ?
Is it the senators that nominated him unopposed ?
The manner he was elected unopposed
Or some agbayas that went to ICC to eat Amala and Ewedu instead of being in NASS to perform the duty for which their constituencies elected them
Or the fact that Saraki is politically and Nationally popular and matured than Tinubu

even where Saraki is removed ( which is impossible), election would be re-conducted noni and 49 PDP senators with his 8 APC members would give Saraki his victory. Moreover, Saraki could even get more numbers from APC members this time

You folks already lost this battle since "year 0"

Ode omo Yoruba alai ni'rori ..... PDP are in NASS to deal with Tinubu and His GODFATHERISM stance over National Assembly

don't worry you will soon see who will laugh last.

Bollove:
You folks behave more silly than necessary ...

what is fraudulent about Saraki's emergence ?
Is it the senators that nominated him unopposed ?
The manner he was elected unopposed
Or some agbayas that went to ICC to eat Amala and Ewedu instead of being in NASS to perform the duty for which their constituencies elected them
Or the fact that Saraki is politically and Nationally popular and matured than Tinubu

even where Saraki is removed ( which is impossible), election would be re-conducted noni and 49 PDP senators with his 8 APC members would give Saraki his victory. Moreover, Saraki could even get more numbers from APC members this time

You folks already lost this battle since "year 0"

Ode omo Yoruba alai ni'rori ..... PDP are in NASS to deal with Tinubu and His GODFATHERISM stance over National Assembly

READ AND STOP DELIBERATELYBEING ST*PID AND FOOLISH. DONT LET YOUR HATE KILL YOU BEFORE YOUR TIME

The senators who are from different political parties, said they were not aware of any amendments to the 2011 Senate Standing Orders.

The ‘forged’ orders were said to have been used in the election of Ekweremadu and the Senate President, Senator Bukola Saraki.

chukwudi44:
It is the perogative of the NASS bureacracy and not senators to create or amend house rules!!! The house rules for each NASS is unique and created by the clerk prior to the inauguration of that particular house.That is why we have senate house rules 1999,2003,2007,2011 and 2015

No senate commitee or constutional amendment team sat down to create the house rules for 1999.It has always been the perogative of the clerk to prepare the house rules for the incomming senate.
In the words of Senator Ike Ekweremadu

“Just as I said in a statement a few days ago, we will not be intimidated and will do everything democratically possible to protect the independence of the

He washed his hands off the allegation, saying at the time the said Senate Standing Rule/Order 2015 was made, he had ceased being the Deputy Senate President and so was no longer a principal officer to have contributed to the making of the document in question.

He said the making of a new Rule/Order for a new Senate or House was entirely the business of the National Assembly bureucracy, asking those striving to frame him up to look elsewhere.


He said: “Let me just explain here that every National Assembly, that is every Senate or House has its Standing Rule/Order as every Standing Rule/Order normally has a life span of four years. So, if you go to the Office of the Clerk to the National Assembly now, you are likely to find Standing Rules/Orders of 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011 and the current 2015.


“From the point of the valedictory session of the 7th Senate on 4th June, Senator Ike Ekweremadu, Distinguished Senator David Mark and the rest of other members of the 7th Senate ceased to be senators until the 9th of June, when the 8th Senate was inaugurated; and as usually done, the new senators received new Standing Rule/Order 2015.


“The making of that 2015 edition of the Senate Rule/Order is the business of the bureaucracy of the National Assembly. What the 8th Senate can do, which its predecessors have sometimes done is to amend as suitable. And the process of the amendment is spelt out in the that document~ DSP Ike Ekweremadu





Anyone who wants to challenge the status quo should simply go to court

Please quietly read this and be on the side of truth for once in your life. The court clerk have no right or any duty to create house rules and he has said so!

http://www.today.ng/opinion/alleged-forgery-of-senate-rules-matters-miscellany/

ndaman25:
Bring it on. We kwarans knws how Kruk d Guy is, we are nt suprise

saraki a serial looter? I'm also from Kwara.

Bollove:
You folks behave more silly than necessary ...

what is fraudulent about Saraki's emergence ?
Is it the senators that nominated him unopposed ?
The manner he was elected unopposed
Or some agbayas that went to ICC to eat Amala and Ewedu instead of being in NASS to perform the duty for which their constituencies elected them
Or the fact that Saraki is politically and Nationally popular and matured than Tinubu

even where Saraki is removed ( which is impossible), election would be re-conducted noni and 49 PDP senators with his 8 APC members would give Saraki his victory. Moreover, Saraki could even get more numbers from APC members this time

You folks already lost this battle since "year 0"

Ode omo Yoruba alai ni'rori ..... PDP are in NASS to deal with Tinubu and His GODFATHERISM stance over National Assembly

lol
If he his guity, are u sure he will not b removed Or impeached? And if not removed he will neva contest for any leadership post in d house.

HungerBAD:
I knew Saraki's days were numbered as the Senate President, what i did not know was that he will go this fast. Okay, lets go to work and get this fraud impeached.

Nothing will shake him from that seat.

nijanigga:

saraki a serial looter? I'm also from Kwara.

am sure not from Ilorin

Bollove:
You folks behave more silly than necessary ...

what is fraudulent about Saraki's emergence ?
Is it the senators that nominated him unopposed ?
The manner he was elected unopposed
Or some agbayas that went to ICC to eat Amala and Ewedu instead of being in NASS to perform the duty for which their constituencies elected them
Or the fact that Saraki is politically and Nationally popular and matured than Tinubu

even where Saraki is removed ( which is impossible), election would be re-conducted noni and 49 PDP senators with his 8 APC members would give Saraki his victory. Moreover, Saraki could even get more numbers from APC members this time

You folks already lost this battle since "year 0"

Ode omo Yoruba alai ni'rori ..... PDP are in NASS to deal with Tinubu and His GODFATHERISM stance over National Assembly

Whats this one saying?

Whether saraki emerges in the long run is not the issue here,the point is right now as it stands,his emergence is fraudulent and even a kindergarten scholar won't argue this obvious fact.

Bollove:
You folks behave more silly than necessary ...

what is fraudulent about Saraki's emergence ?
Is it the senators that nominated him unopposed ?
The manner he was elected unopposed
Or some agbayas that went to ICC to eat Amala and Ewedu instead of being in NASS to perform the duty for which their constituencies elected them
Or the fact that Saraki is politically and Nationally popular and matured than Tinubu

even where Saraki is removed ( which is impossible), election would be re-conducted noni and 49 PDP senators with his 8 APC members would give Saraki his victory. Moreover, Saraki could even get more numbers from APC members this time

You folks already lost this battle since "year 0"

Ode omo Yoruba alai ni'rori ..... PDP are in NASS to deal with Tinubu and His GODFATHERISM stance over National Assembly

illiterate, read to understand before commenting. They say the standing order that was used for saraki's election was forged . How can a forged order be used for a legitmate process? This is where saraki's problem lies.

omooba2020:
lol
If he his guity, are u sure he will not b removed Or impeached? And if not removed he will neva contest for any leadership post in d house.

As a result of his ofence*forgery*

Tinubu is still fighting to install his men as NASS leaders. Na wa o

This administration has come to cleans the entire system. I pray God gives them the strength to achieve the goal of change.

Aspireahead:


Sir, every standing rule dies with the expiration of the tenure if the senate it concerns. Now the senate rules guides the election if principal officers who in turn inaugurates the senate. therefore, the amendment or making of the Senate rules therefore is the job of the Nass bureaucrats....as explained here

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/-beyond-propaganda-and-hypocrisy/214999/

******* modified to include paragraph of quoted link***********
It is however easily observable that even Senator Ita Enang have double-spoken and prevaricated on this matter for reasons best known to him. Initially, he said he would not be able to confirm whether the Senate Rules ends with a particular Senate. But on 14th July 2015, he admitted on Channels TV that the Rules of the 8th Senate was for the 8th Senate, but would have to be ratified by it. Now, how would they ratify it unless they are first inaugurated by the Clerk to the National Assembly (CNA)?

Thanks, I believe you read ratify by the 8th Senate. Now answer to below questions will clarify the whole issue. Noting the real sense of ratification that unless an action has been ratified by the principal, in this case 8th Senate, it becomes null and void. The ratification needs to come before implementing or enforcing it on 8th Assembly. Then,
1. Was the amended rules ratify by the senators present at the inauguration.
2. Was the number of senators who ratified it up to required numbers as specified by relevant laws, tiles and orders.

Sometimes, we need to grow beyond sentimental opinions and embrace unbiased approached to issues that affects us. I and well meaning Nigerians struggle against perceived injustice to be done to Jonathan during Yar'adua sickness and in solidarity voted massively for Jonathan and PDP, clearing the believe that Tinubu sold out SW votes in 2011. Again we voted against impunity and deliberate efforts of Jonathan led host to allow BH and corruption to strive to the highest level. God on our side, He grant us and bless our struggles and He will do it again until impunity and insurgency are wiped out and corruption to the barest minimum in His might name.

Hmmm, apc, una no dey tire?

beejay1207:
Senators who served in the 7th Senate, on Saturday, disowned the 2015 edition of the Senate Standing Orders as amended.

The senators who are from different political parties, said they were not aware of any amendments to the 2011 Senate Standing Orders.

Acting on a petition by Senator Sulaiman Hunkuyi (All Progressives Congress, Kaduna State), the police had on July 6 quizzed the Deputy Senate President, Senator Ike Ekweremadu, and the Clerk of the National Assembly, Mr. Salisu Maikasuwa, over an alleged forgery of the standing orders.

The ‘forged’ orders were said to have been used in the election of Ekweremadu and the Senate President, Senator Bukola Saraki.

The PUNCH had exclusively reported on Thursday that the police said that they would release the report on their investigation into the alleged forgery this week.

The petition alleged that some parts of the 2015 Senate Orders were different from the one ratified by the 6th Senate in 2010, which was used by the 7th Senate as Standing Orders 2011.

cc: lalastica, ishilove

source:
http://www.punchng.com/news/standing-order-used-for-saraki-election-a-fake-say-ex-senators/

I DONT LIKE DESPERATE MEN, DESPERATE MEN ARE FRAUDULENT, IF SARAKI AND EKWEREMADU HAD EMERGED UNDER THE FULL HOUSE I WILL NOT COMPLAIN, IF SARAKI HAD WASHED HIS HANDS OFF THIS HOUSE PRINCIPAL OFFICERS ISSUE I WILL NOT COMPLAIN, THE MAN SARAKI HAS ONLY ONE POLITICAL BASE WHICH IS LIMITED TO THE SPELLBOUND PEOPLE OF KWARA STATE, EVERY MOVE OF SARAKI SHOWS DESPERATION, I DONT SEE A CORDIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SARAKI AND THE PRESIDENCY,AS FOR EKWEREMADU, HE WILL REMAIN A MERE RUBBER STAMP, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER HE REMAINED A MERE SENATOR AND SERVICE THE NEEDS OF HIS PEOPLE WITH HIS CONSTITUENCY PROJECT MONEY, HONESTLY I DONT KNOW WHY IGBOS LOVE TO PLAY SECOND FIDDLE, THIS IS HOW THEY WERE REWARDED WITH AN AZIKIWE CEREMONIAL PRESIDENCY WITH NO POWER WHILE REAL POWER RESTED WITH TAFAWA BALEWA, I KEEP WONDERING, IS IT A CRIME FOR AN IGBO MAN TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA? THE IGBOS SHOULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND DEVELOP APGA TO A NATIONAL PARTY JUST AS TINUBU DID WITH AD,AC,ACN AND NOW APC, IT,S TIME FOR IGBOS TO CARVE OUT AN IDENTITY.

naffysa:
am sure not from Ilorin

so what? the fact is Sarakis are the bane of progress in Kwara. They have put Kwarans in bondage. The present governor cannot make any decision without consulting Saraki. Ilorin people are licking Saraki's as.s

TGM2015:

You are right on your first statement but for any alteration(s) to made, it must be by majority votes of the people (in this case senators) the standing rules will guides that has be how it has been and the right thing in the face of the law. it is a known fact fact that the 7th Assembly do not amend the rules as presented by the committee in charge because David Mark see it as a threat the new roles assigned to the deputy Senate president. Now, both factions of the 8th Assembly confirm the existence of the 2015 amended act before inauguration, the questions now are, who made the amendment? Are they qualify under existing rules and law to make such amendment? Even if those present at inauguration are the one who votes for the amended, which I strongly doubt, are they up to numbers required to amend the order? If the deputy Senate president claims are anything to go by, then we ask the final question, are the management board empowered to make or amend Senate standing orders?

Let's wait for the NPF investigation report before making further comments. Though I will need to tap from wealth of knowledge from barcanista.

Bro, personally I see no ambiguity here. The so-called Senate rule for 2015 is an inhouse document and the mmatter is an inhouse one. If a group insist that it was forged they ought to submit protest/petition to the Senate President who will refer the matter to the Ethics and Business Committees for investigation. This is no subject for debate as long as no section of the constitution was breached. The Police investigation will hold no water irrespective of the position they arrive at. Like i said somewhere- "Nobody will lose his or her position in the Senate based on this except 2/3 Senators impeach the person". There is nothing anyone can do about this...

Question for the House:

Which Senate created the inhouse standing rule of 1999?

Aspireahead:


Sir, every standing rule dies with the expiration of the tenure if the senate it concerns. Now the senate rules guides the election if principal officers who in turn inaugurates the senate. therefore, the amendment or making of the Senate rules therefore is the job of the Nass bureaucrats....as explained here

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/-beyond-propaganda-and-hypocrisy/214999/

That means, you know more than the ranking senators (cutting across parties) who themselves confirmed that the Standing Rule was forged? Do you know that the 1999 Constitution were written by some people and thereafter handed it over to the 4th Republic? Do you know, that the stated in the document(constitution) how(process) any section of it can be amended? Even for the sake of this argument we accept that the Bureaucracy of the NASS produced the Standing rules, did it categorically state how the rules can be amended subsequently? Even in our different village meetings where constitution are written by a lawyer, there is always a clause detailing how the very document can be amended or rewritten let alone a Senate Standing rule! So the question is, who amended the rules, if it was the Clerk of the Assembly, was it explicitly stated in the document that he had the power to do so? Mami! Calm down! Saraki and Ekweremmadu is a goner!

ThimmyWood:
One thing is for sure, some people will still come here to defend their Ekweremadu.

TRUTH!!

barcanista:

Bro, personally I see no ambiguity here. The so-called Senate rule for 2015 is an inhouse document and the mmatter is an inhouse one. If a group insist that it was forged they ought to submit protest/petition to the Senate President who will refer the matter to the Ethics and Business Committees for investigation. This is no subject for debate as long as no section of the constitution was breached. The Police investigation will hold no water irrespective of the position they arrive at. Like i said somewhere- "Nobody will lose his or her position in the Senate based on this except 2/3 Senators impeach the person". There is nothing anyone can do about this...

Thanks you, in the first instance, the Senate president and the deputy are defendants to this case and there is no existence of any committee to refer to. Therefore, in this case who should the aggrieved senator write petition to, if not police force taking cognizant that the petition was with intention that a criminal offence has been committed?

I have just confirmed that the so call 2015 senate rule is Igbo made