Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! - Politics (2)

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Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by EastLebanon(m): 7:14am On Jul 20, 2015

Idrismusty97:
Blame one of your Biafra brother Aguiyi Ironsi for that, His plans against the North and other region of the federation completely backfired! You think we aren't tire of this "Awa oyel" parrot noise? Investments are currently being made all across the North and West, Until our Agriculture industry, Technology and mining industry is fully developed we will continue taking our share from the "National cake" thanks to Ironsi....You can start a war if you are so angry so we can completely annihilate you. Thanks

The reason IRONSI opted for federalism was to make the westerner and northerner region to enjoy some of the benefits/dividends and some sense of belonging from the oil in the eastern region because he felt if he didn't opt for it,it will make the rest region to lack behind in terms of development and the east will be far developed than the rest region,he didn't encourage it because he believes in ONE NIGERIA,despite being an easterner he abolished regionalism,didn't you think IRONSI had nigeria in mind?if the fg can run the federalism sincerely,the easterners won't be complaining.

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Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by Nobody: 7:15am On Jul 20, 2015

NDPVF:
As usual,a master piece from a known great mind,doing the usual great thing.kudos dearpreye.

Just like me,we belief that,.

Your quotable quote -dearpreye.

Love you bro,(NO HOMO)

Good morning bro. Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere. That's one of my strongest beliefs. I'm naturally averse to cheating and parasitism.

We can still salvage this system. Are we just sincere? Will the parasite be considerate with the host?

Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by Nobody: 7:16am On Jul 20, 2015

EastLebanon:
The reason IRONSI opted for federalism was to make the westerner and northerner region to enjoy some of the benefits/dividends and some sense of belonging from the oil in the eastern region because he felt if he didn't opt for it,it will make the rest region to lack behind in terms of development and the east will be far developed than the rest region,he didn't encourage it because he believes in ONE NIGERIA,despite being an easterner he abolished regionalism,didn't you think IRONSI had nigeria in mind?if the fg can run the federalism sincerely,the easterners won't be complaining.

I totally agree with your submission. All these secessionist tendencies will evaporate the moment equity and fairness are enthroned. It's that simple.

Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by ezeagu(m): 7:28am On Jul 20, 2015

I think it's more than just the system, I think ordinarily Igbo society is very autonomous and independent. I don't see Nigeria changing.

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Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by Nobody: 7:32am On Jul 20, 2015

ezeagu:
I think it's more than just the system, I think ordinarily Igbo society is very autonomous and independent. I don't see Nigeria changing.

Nigeria must change or risk the inevitable. It's just a question of time.

Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by AZeD1(m): 7:43am On Jul 20, 2015

dearpreye:
You can attest to the fact the Igbos are the most hardworking, enterprising and smart Nigerians.

The evidence on ground doesn't support your statement.

I've read so many Biafran threads here on nairaland and all of them state what you have just said and also include the " we don't need oil to survive " mantra but when one does a critical analysis of the south east region, the reality on ground says a different story.

The south east has been ruled by "Biafrans" for the last 16 years, they also got the added benefit of sharing from Niger Delta oil but as a group, they have nothing to support their claim that as a country they'll do better than Nigeria.

The cry of marginalisation won't stop in Biafra because the problem of Nigeria is the mentality of us Nigerians and creating an artificial boundary does nothing to change the mentality. Check nairaland, you'd see a thread where Anglicans were crying marginalisation in Enugu state because neither the PDP governorship candidate and his deputy are Anglicans. Do you think that would stop with the creation of Biafra?

As a people, we have placed sectionalism (for lack of a better word) far above competence and that is the major reason why Nigeria is not working.
We would rather have someone from our region/state/local government/village/religion/denomination/street in authority than a competent person.

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Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by cocoduck: 8:03am On Jul 20, 2015

fulanimafia:
Apart from the fact that Ironsi was the architect of the current unitary system, how come all of this agitation picked up upon Jonathan's defeat?

When the same system threw up the Ijaw son who ended up enriching touts from his region that were insulting the north and making all kinds of inflammatory statements, it was not unfair to other regions? When bowler hats were controlling Abuja the system was not flawed?

The fact is that the distraction of oil which gives you the guts to insinuate that the North which is the agricultural base of this nation produces nothing, was detrimental to our development as all the military governments and subsequent PDP governments failed to diversify the tired old oil economy.

Feel free to express your dissatisfaction with the current system, but don't cheapen your cause by playing victim or making baseless derogatory statements about any region.

you are a fvcking history revisionist FY Fvcking I Ironsi did not abolish the regional system, he merely mooted that idea who created states is it not the raggy GOWN HE ABOLISHED REGINAL SYSTEM and if u want insults i am ready to give it to you hundred percent

Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by fulanimafia: 8:13am On Jul 20, 2015

cocoduck:
you are a fvcking history revisionist FY Fvcking I Ironsi did not abolish the regional system, he merely mooted that idea who created states is it not the raggy GOWN HE ABOLISHED REGINAL SYSTEM and if u want insults i am ready to give it to you hundred percent

NDPVF:
@Bolded,i don't think you had a deep introspection,before putting up that.
Did Ironsi die today?.since after his death,successive administration has come and gone,why didn't they correct it?.
Common sense would have told you that what he did then,was to use unitary system of government to save Nigeria from disintegration.
Now we must return to regionalism,or face the music.
As for your other rants you posted,it shows how parasitic you are.

Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by fulanimafia: 8:23am On Jul 20, 2015*

NDPVF:
@Bolded,i don't think you had a deep introspection,before putting up that.Did Ironsi die today?.since after his death,successive administration has come and gone,why didn't they correct it?.
Common sense would have told you that what he did then,was to use unitary system of government to save Nigeria from disintegration.
Now we must return to regionalism,or face the music.
As for your other rants you posted,it shows how parasitic you are.

1. After Ironsi's death, military rule continued and it would be silly for them to change the unitary system which availed them with easy money and gave them a robust administrative structure, democracy was not their forte either. The military government was then followed by the PDP Governments, among which was led by a Niger-Deltan, why did Jonathan not change the system? Why were you not crying? You were enjoying the crumbs from Abuja.

2. So an Igbo man Ironsi did not want Nigeria to disintegrate then because he was in power, Jonathan gave no-go-areas in the National Conference which would have addressed your grievances, because he was in power, now a Daura-born President is in power and suddenly remember Nigeria is not well-structured?

You all are just sore losers, which is why your confused agitation came up the moment Jonathan was defeated. What happened to LNC? grin

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Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by Nobody: 8:29am On Jul 20, 2015

AZeD1:
Biafra is an utopian dream sold to a persons who are intellectually lazy.
Smart people find solutions while the ignorant blames others but himself.

Your Father didnt find the solution to Nigeria's problem, and you too cant find the solution to Nigeria's problem

Terrorism

Tribalism

Corruption

Ethnic profiling

e.t.c

Yet you claim to be smart. Mr Smart/Intelligent

Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by carnegiefan: 9:03am On Jul 20, 2015

dearpreye:
The North produces NOTHING. All the money generated at A papa and Tincan Ports, Muritala Intl Airport, and from the ND are used in beautifying Abuja and other Northern states. That's the fraud we're talking about.

Cc: NDPVF, Carnegiefan

My brother your post can be summarized by the bolded paragraph of your OP. This is why Nigeria can NEVER work in a million years.
The truth is that the scam has become so old that the other side (North and SW) now believe that it is fair and normal, and often attack anyone who questions it.
That is the exact reason (don't mind all the noise about corruption) that they could not see the injustice in ganging up and kicking out Jonathan. Even a dying Yar adua was not so ignominiously shoved aside. To them, Jonathan is a usurper to their patrimony. Now they are even angling to probe and even jail him, while the main thieving past presidents who stole billions are walking around free playing "elder statesmen".
As for the Igbo, they are simply tired of Nigeria. What they really want to do is leave.
It would take an unprecedented miracle to convince the Igbo again that they can trust the destiny of their children to Nigeria.
Nigeria has schemed ceaselessly against the Igbo for almost 60 years, our crime being that we don't want the Eastern region to be exploited mindlessly.
Our eyes are wide open now. They better be afraid. lol
I blame our fathers for being naive and for trusting Nigeria.

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Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by Nobody: 9:41am On Jul 20, 2015

carnegiefan:
My brother your post can be summarized by the bolded paragraph of your OP. This is why Nigeria can NEVER work in a million years.
The truth is that the scam has become so old that the other side (North and SW) now believe that it is fair and normal, and often attack anyone who questions it.
That is the exact reason (don't mind all the noise about corruption) that they could not see the injustice in ganging up and kicking out Jonathan. Even a dying Yar adua was not so ignominiously shoved aside. To them, Jonathan is a usurper to their patrimony. Now they are even angling to probe and even jail him, while the main thieving past presidents who stole billions are walking around free playing "elder statesmen".
As for the Igbo, they are simply tired of Nigeria. What they really want to do is leave.
It would take an unprecedented miracle to convince the Igbo again that they can trust the destiny of their children to Nigeria.
Nigeria has schemed ceaselessly against the Igbo for almost 60 years, our crime being that we don't want the Eastern region to be exploited mindlessly.
Our eyes are wide open now. They better be afraid. lol
I blame our fathers for being naive and for trusting Nigeria.

Thanks for your words.

It was my hate for corruption and underdevelopment that pulled me into developing some interest in government and Leadership generally.

I campaigned on my FB against the poor handling of our resources by the PDP. I gave my voice against it. I made enemies and friends by being consistently wired against this hydra headed corruption monster.

But I saw something that questioned my very hard line against the PDP and president GEJ in particular.

I saw through the veil some subtle campaign against leaders from the SS. The media and it's paymasters simply shifted the main fight against corruption SS ward. I saw a plan. A campaign of destroying anyone from here who can have such influence as does PMB or BAT. That was when I started pondering on the much bigger picture, and saw the monumental subtle campaign against us. It got worse with the successful merger of the APC. I saw a careful demonisation of GEJ. And then it became clear I have to support MY OWN.

I'm carefully following the Dasuki matter. The outcome may eventually be to further denigrate and intimidate and rubbish former President GEJ. Like you said, the plunderers of this nation who are from the other regions are simply celebrated and regarded as elders; even the one that allegedly fvcked his daughter in law. That's how bad the system has degenerated.

As for the Igbos, and any other group that want to chart their own destiny, I'm fully in support. The impudence and arrogance from the parasites is unbecoming.

Any serious nation would have done more for the Igbos. Not Nigeria. Not this wicked experiment. Let the Igbos pursue their dreams. It's their right. Their decision.

Re: Biafra Is Just A Symptom; The Disease Is The System! by Nobody: 10:47am On Jul 20, 2015

Idrismusty97:
Blame one of your Biafra brother Aguiyi Ironsi for that, His plans against the North and other region of the federation completely backfired! You think we aren't tire of this "Awa oyel" parrot noise? Investments are currently being made all across the North and West, Until our Agriculture industry, Technology and mining industry is fully developed we will continue taking our share from the "National cake" thanks to Ironsi....You can start a war if you are so angry so we can completely annihilate you. Thanks

Do you think that your useless tribe that is filled with monkeys and baboon can annihilate us? you're dreaming. though, what do you know anyway you're just a maggot looking for a poo to feed on.

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