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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by anyimontana(m): 11:19am On Jul 23, 2015
pafra:


chinese? make you come reach where boko haram dey gun no gree shot? i beg ooo
lets be carefull with china weapons ooo
Pistol fit malfunction come begin fire like a.k47 grin
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by seangy4konji: 11:21am On Jul 23, 2015
its nothing...a lot of countries sell arms...

Just make sure it gets into the right hands.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Reference(m): 11:21am On Jul 23, 2015
prettyboi1989:
whats the biggy? if america cant sell weapons to nigeria and they are willing to help in the fight against insurgency y cant they send their troops to nigeria with their fighter jets just like the way they supported iraq against isis.

Forget that. Nigeria will NEVER allow a foreign national army operate on its territory. Take that from me. Any government attempting to do that is courting insurrection. That is the armed forces I know. It took ages for the South African mercenaries scheme to be accepted and only after the military insisted it must remain clandestine and regarded as training and logistics only.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Luckylife(m): 11:22am On Jul 23, 2015
The only thing an very sure about USA deal with any country is that their interest must be achieve first. So I expect our leaders to know this open secret, don't expect an outsider to solve the problems in ur home becos only u knows the source.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Nobody: 11:28am On Jul 23, 2015
pazienza:


Iran is looking to crawl its way back into the good grace of the Caucasian powers! Nigeria is not worth it for them. Resisting the west or going directl confrontation with the West will only take you backwards, Iran has been there and back.

And be rest assured that US already have moles planted within Buhari govt, any attempt by Buhari to access weapons from the black market secretly will be swiftly thwarted by the US.

And I doubt we can get better weapons to out gun BH from the black market.

Nigeria should simply swallow her pride and accept US demands, if she wants to survive.

This is the price she has to pay for failing to develop a weapon complex, four decades after she depended on British weapons to win a civil war.
I will not agree with accepting. One problems with concessions is,when you make one what stops another?
Today it is weapons,tomorrow will be forcing policies we don't want down our throats. (They are always doing so but we still have a little dignity to say no at times)

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by JUHABACH: 11:28am On Jul 23, 2015
Guyman02:
Nigeria's Human rights record pails into insignificance when compared to the brutal Saudi Arabia regime who are bombing another country Yemen with US weapons and have beheaded over a hundred people this year alone but because they have so much Petrodollars Amnesty International, America and the west turns a blind.
Buhari should look inwards and devise a home grown modus-operandi of defeating BH and not wait for America.

dont mind them. isreal has one of the worst human rights track record (as regards the gaza strip alone) yet they receive constant support from the U.S. who has also consistently funded egypt despitemultiple CLEAR-CUT instances of human rights violation.
bloody hypocrites.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by shigoslim(m): 11:29am On Jul 23, 2015
Jetjacky:
this a strong plunge from the american government to stronghand the Nigeria government to bend their will.

and its a shame that the same Nigeria giant of Africa, can't make their own weapons, but wait oh? I thought the igbos made their own bombs and weapons during biafran war??

Bihari should employ the Igbo's good in the field of weaponry to use their vast ideas in creating what we need.










This what we are talking about every tribes has her own weakness and strength but majority of us has been blind folded with religion and ethno sentiment as result we can not see anything good in us. Nigeria for over years is place so much misplace of priority on all what they are doing. despite the fact that am still an adult i i have study this country so much that all our problem can be solve within our territory without inviting outside to do the job.
Each tribes, region is highly bless with different human resource that can be out together to move Nigeria forward, i knew very well igbo tribes if properly carry along can be effectively utilize to reshape this country with their level intellectual science and sport while others tribes can fill in the gap where there is space. i have heard igbo in Nigeria making bomb. guns and drones . in fact there was a guy here in niaraland that made a radio chopper ........... so while our government not use there head for once , but guess power hungry won't let them use their medulla obliganter .

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by gbens2000(m): 11:31am On Jul 23, 2015
i knew for sure his journey was a waste of sh**t.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by PrinceMario(m): 11:31am On Jul 23, 2015
Johnnoah1st:
so 2.2billion used 4 the trip is wasted?
So u believed those hungry bloggers who sold u the 2.2billion lie. Even the clueless Gej that went with about 600 delegates spent less than #2billion how much more PMB who went with less than 35aides.


How gullible thou art.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ak47mann(m): 11:33am On Jul 23, 2015
when nigeria could have use biafran scientist and develop them just the way america took nazi scientist and they built serious weapons for america.This is how smart people behave not abandoning good scientist that could have help you in future because of hatred and is igbo made. Gowon is a monkey look at how the Zoo have become beggars for weapons cool

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Zajkina: 11:34am On Jul 23, 2015
I have read here that also another countries like Bangladesh, Mexico, Colombia, Turkey, Indonesia, Bolivia and Pakistan will not get any weapon from America http://www.naij.com/496065-pmb-reveals-why-us-refused-to-sell-weapons-to-nigeria.html . I don't understand, why president asks to review the law?
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ocelot2006(m): 11:34am On Jul 23, 2015
stinggy:

Good point.

But let's wait and see if PMB will come out with something good, because GEJ did all 'going and searching' with Russians and Chinese and yet had to smuggle cash into SA reportedly for arms which means none of his moves worked.

GEJ actually went East and bought weapons like the T-72AV and T-72M Main Battle Tanks, BPM IFV, BTR-4 APCs and Mi-35m Attack Helicopters from Russia, Ukraine, and Czech Republic, new Beryl rifles from Poland. From China he bought the massive CS-VP3 Bigfoot MRAPs and CH-A3 UCAVs (unmanned combat air vehicles). GEJ equally went West a bit as he bought the STREIT SPARTAN MK2 and MK3 Armoured Vehicles from Canada (UAE Production plant actually), and the IKRI LCAVs from Canada. From South Africa we bought the REVA MRAPs used solely by the Nigerian Army 72nd Mobile Strike Force (Special forces) and Springbuck MRAP, along with the Casspire APC for the NPF. From the Isrealis we got Tavor TAR-21 and CTAR-21 rifles for NAF-QRF, Navy SBS, and DSS. Also purchased are IWI Galil Ace Assault rifles for DSS, and Musketeer Saymar Light Armoured Vehicles for the NPF. The GEJ administration equally looked locally and purchased made in Nigeria Igirigi MRAPs, Nigerian made tactical vests from DICON-Marom Dolphin JVC, and light arms (OBJ-006 assault rifles, FN-FAL/NR-1 assault rifles, Beretta 92/NP-1 pistols, Browning Hi-Power pistols, GPMGs, Mortar tubes and munition, RPGs, from DICON.

For the Americans, we got nothing substantial from them. Just Harris Tactical radios, about 2 (ex-German Luftwaffe and upgraded) Alpha jets bought as attrition replacements bought from a flying club in the US (no US parts), and a bunch of Toyota Land cruiser jeeps and trucks. That's all.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ocelot2006(m): 11:39am On Jul 23, 2015
Jetjacky:
this a strong plunge from the american government to stronghand the Nigeria government to bend their will.

and its a shame that the same Nigeria giant of Africa, can't make their own weapons, but wait oh? I thought the igbos made their own bombs and weapons during biafran war??

Bihari should employ the Igbo's good in the field of weaponry to use their vast ideas in creating what we need.

Nigeria makes weapons and combat platforms from assault rifles to machine guns, pistols to submachine guns, tactical vests, Armoured vehicles, UAVs, and naval gunboats. What we don't manufactur are more complex systems like NVGs, Aircrafts, communication gear, Sensor systems, etc.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Reference(m): 11:40am On Jul 23, 2015
calcal:
Buhari just need to make a trip to Russia.

That is where he should have started. Russia makes decent weaponry, we already have army, airforce and naval stocks from them so integration will not be a problem, they are not as expensive as western gear, Russia needs all the cash it can get due to sanctions and most importantly, they will notq interfere in our internal affairs. They will not dictate to us how to use them. Buy America and in five years when you need spares and some crazy dude like Donald Trump occupies the white house then what do you do.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by lexy2014: 11:41am On Jul 23, 2015
mrvitalis:
OK then let's try Russia and China. .... ...... they were my first choice anyway
Or way can we come back home and develop our own weapons to work in our country.... ..
. We have the brains. ..
.. . We have the raw materials
... the basic technology is there
.. . We have some cash
. .. Why can't we?
"Or way can we come back home and develop our own weapons to work in our country.... ..
. We have the brains. ..
.. . We have the raw materials
... the basic technology is there
.. . We have some cash
. .. Why can't we?"


God bless u 4 your nationalistic comment
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by meccuno: 11:41am On Jul 23, 2015
mrvitalis:
OK then let's try Russia and China. .... ...... they were my first choice anyway
Or way can we come back home and develop our own weapons to work in our country.... ..
. We have the brains. ..
.. . We have the raw materials
... the basic technology is there
.. . We have some cash
. .. Why can't we?
we also have tribalism, religious bigotry,ethnic sentiments and the worst form of corruption the world has seen......Nigeria will never move forward with these things holding us back.....that being said, I think its in our best interest to tag along with the US if we like our selves. I don't know why we won't use wisdom in doing things as it appertains to international politics e.g gay and lesbian act....the law shouldn't have been passed in the first place outlawing it because the US would continue to mount pressure on Nigeria because of it. We cannot even play simple regional politics talk less of international ......Now you people would see why GEJ took the steps he did........and since Buhari is the President now,I pray he doesn't make the same mistakes.....cause USA is the worst type of enemy to have even worse than Boko haram...........lastly,remember it took US and Cuba to re-establish their bi literal relationship after 54 years......let's be wise

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by okechukwu3: 11:42am On Jul 23, 2015
God please help our President.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Hassan080196(m): 11:43am On Jul 23, 2015
I have no doubt for a sec. that the brain behind the formation and empowering of boko haram is the United States and Israel.


I know that some people won't believe this but I'm telling you,that's the FACT.

You can also sit down and pick to pieces this boko things. I'm very optimistic that at the end of your analysis, you'll come out with the result that America are the using these people.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by adaleng(f): 11:44am On Jul 23, 2015
swizken6:
Iranu.
So the #2.2bn was just a waste

I tire o. All these politicians wasting money.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by neocortex: 11:45am On Jul 23, 2015
When GEJ and Dasuki were sourcing for underground weapon, APC with the help of "American intelligence" were busy ridiculing Nigeria
in the international stage. They labelled Nigeria as a failed state because it resorted to black market for arms.
Now they have learnt their lesson and I am confident Buhari will have to swallow his pride and follow GEJ's blueprint
in sourcing for weapons.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by chyket(m): 11:46am On Jul 23, 2015
Its a SAD day for Nigeria!!!.I dont think that this failure calls for any celebration from Nigerians.
Nobody should celebrate the victory of Terrorism in our soil.
We are all worse for it.For the past 6 years,the resources that we would have used to support critical sectors in our national life is just been wasted in fighting boko haram.
Most Nigerian businessmen have been crying of badtimes and they dont know that beyond the current state of the international oil price,the fact that the government who has always been the greatest spenders in the economy has been diverting about 25% of our budget to fighting the bokoharam has also been largely responsible for the woes in the business environment currently.
We should not see this boko haram threat as an avenue to score cheap political points but as an avenue for all Nigerians to overcome a common enemy of our individual and collective destiny.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Anamachi3(m): 11:46am On Jul 23, 2015
False hopes. Depending on the prevailing world power to help u is a false hope.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Amya(f): 11:46am On Jul 23, 2015
ahamonyeka:
Americans refusing to sell weapons to nigeria is a way for nigeria to subscribe to the anti-gay law.
This is something my igbo brothers can do more better than the Americans.


Wetin dey for your sokoto e dey for sokoto.

Nope!

The U.S's interest in Nigeria is way bigger than the gay laws everyone seems to be talking about! It's not about the oil either (a little part is though). Nigeria is the only country in Africa that has the makings of a world power. Population, check. Natural resources, check. diversity check.

Now, what people don't understand is that Nigeria's present backwardness and underdevelopment has been artificially engineered by the west post independence to keep us perpetually underdeveloped (I will not go into details). Inflicting such condition on countries that have potential for greatness greatly increases the powers of the suppressors (the west). They sincerely don't want any good for Nigeria cause it affects their own economy. For example, Nigeria is the junkyard of Millions of American used cars, with the automotive policy put in place by GEJ and the high import tariffs put in place for used cars, that will mean a loss of billions of dollars of revenue for the U.S. It's not restricted to cars, but everything! So don't you think they'd fight any genuine development that may be coming our way?

I've said it time and time again, America is the sponsor of boko haram! They seek to destabilize this country just so we'd never really grow.

One reason why I had great respect for GEJ was refused to be used as a puppet and he refused to bow to their wishes of making Nigeria their dumping ground. He knew what he was doing, but Nigerians didn't. They crucified him when he was only looking out for Nigerians. He said one day Nigerian will realise what they had and miss him. That day would most definitely come.


There's something that PMB did which I like though. He asked to purchase weapons and he didn't ask them to come and fight boko haram on our behalf which is the open invitation America is looking for so they'd come and completely destroy Nigeria.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by breakeven: 11:48am On Jul 23, 2015
mrvitalis:
OK then let's try Russia and China. .... ...... they were my first choice anyway
Or way can we come back home and develop our own weapons to work in our country.... ..
. We have the brains. ..
.. . We have the raw materials
... the basic technology is there
.. . We have some cash
. .. Why can't we?
The brains to manufacture the best arms are in Igbo land. Nigeria still don't trust the Igbo's, so we will rather import than to manufacture. Our DIC manufacture furniture instead of weapons. Uhmm, you see how our leaders think with their anus.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by kawkab: 11:48am On Jul 23, 2015
baralatie:

so it means PMB has no choice than to take the Russia route and guess how the America felt and treated Gej!
I have been saying this it is either PMB gets down to working by immediately assembling a formidable think tank executive and increase the GAINS of GEJ administration or adopting lai Mohammed approach of blaming gej.

Thank you for your objective comment.

Moreover we can upgrade DICON kaduna from small arms manufacturing to light and heavy artillery. Steyr factory in Bauchi can also be mandated to produce personnel carriers and other military truck. Kindly note that Steyr parent factory in Austria produces military hardwares.

We can also draw from lesson fromthe Civil War days where Biafra did a lot of fabrication and manufaacturing of local arms.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ttmacoy: 11:53am On Jul 23, 2015
After he said all that he concluded with the below which he didn't seem to get before:

"He however, noted that fixing Nigeria’s problems, as formidable as they are, remains essentially the responsibility of Nigerians.

“The international community can only assist, but the hard work belongs to Nigerians and their government."[b][/b][i][/i]
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by penguin12: 11:55am On Jul 23, 2015
Our leaders are underate us. We Nigerians can make things happen the way those leaders think.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by nwatch: 11:55am On Jul 23, 2015
And they don't apply this rule to ISRAEL. The Leahy law is weak and it is only used as stupid diplomatic weapon on countries like nigeria.

We can form other allies-America borrows from China and yet we always run to America for help. Ask for help from other developing country who once had issues like these-Singapore,China,Malaysia,Thailand and other quiet Eastern European countries.

I am yet to benefit or see what American has done on nigerian soil.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by IyfeNamikaze(m): 11:56am On Jul 23, 2015
porka:


[size=13pt]You sound like a SLAVE![/size]

Correction, he is a slave.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by chipet67(m): 11:57am On Jul 23, 2015
Am ashamed of being a nigerian.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by porka: 11:58am On Jul 23, 2015
pazienza:


Lol! Silly "Strong head" will get you nowhere. You don't stop a moving train by standing in front of it.

Look where Iran's strong head got her. She has missed out on the crude oil boom period of 2007-13.
Yet, the west still got her way.

Iran will get their Nuclear weapons in ten years! (Baring Israeli military strikes and direct confrontation).

The oil is not going away, sooner or later the price will rebound.

The agreement was based on Obama's assumption that in ten years time, Iran's young population won't be interested in belligerency.

It's a foolish assumption.

Bill Clinton also made such a stupid assumption on North Korean back then.

Today, North Korea sits on several hundreds of Nuclear warheads and developing a long range missile to launch it.

The agreement was in Iran's favor more than anyone.

Read between the lines.

Read Netanyanhu's reaction.

Read the Ayatollah's reaction.

Read widely.

Think deeply and make your judgment.

Don't just capitulate at the slightest threat.

When you hear something on CNN make sure you google and compare different opinions on the subject.

A nation is respected because they stand up for something.

Nigeria is the hope of the black-man; the de fac to leader that lesser black people look up to for direction.

Determination is also a good leadership principle.

Buhari and his people know how to stop Boko Haram if they will be honest with themselves.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by CSTR2: 12:01pm On Jul 23, 2015
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