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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by free13: 12:02pm On Jul 23, 2015
PROVACATEUR:
GEJ was going Eastern Europe and the Orient in search of weapon but APC were propaganding BH with the help of US because of US policy against Russia and China. The same US has turned them down leaving them empty handed because I'm sure PMB has terminated the whole military contract GEJ entered into

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ClintonNzedimma(m): 12:04pm On Jul 23, 2015
pazienza:


Lol! Silly "Strong head" will get you nowhere. You don't stop a moving train by standing in front of it.

Look where Iran's strong head got her. She has missed out on the crude oil boom period of 2007-13.
Yet, the west still got her way.
tell him joor, thats the problem with us africans.
Even america is as strong as russia and china combined.
Until Boko Haram moves to his environment, he will even be begging for gay marriage.
Lets swallow our pride and accept.
We have nothing to loose, its already the endtime.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ttmacoy: 12:04pm On Jul 23, 2015
At least we have the record of being the only African Country cheesy

security force units in Bangladesh, Bolivia, Colombia, Guatemala, Mexico, Nigeria, Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan have been denied assistance due to the Leahy Law.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by stinggy(m): 12:06pm On Jul 23, 2015
ocelot2006:


GEJ actually went East and bought weapons like the T-72AV and T-72M Main Battle Tanks, BPM IFV, BTR-4 APCs and Mi-35m Attack Helicopters from Russia, Ukraine, and Czech Republic, new Beryl rifles from Poland. From China he bought the massive CS-VP3 Bigfoot MRAPs and CH-A3 UCAVs (unmanned combat air vehicles). GEJ equally went West a bit as he bought the STREIT SPARTAN MK2 and MK3 Armoured Vehicles from Canada (UAE Production plant actually), and the IKRI LCAVs from Canada. From South Africa we bought the REVA MRAPs used solely by the Nigerian Army 72nd Mobile Strike Force (Special forces) and Springbuck MRAP, along with the Casspire APC for the NPF. From the Isrealis we got Tavor TAR-21 and CTAR-21 rifles for NAF-QRF, Navy SBS, and DSS. Also purchased are IWI Galil Ace Assault rifles for DSS, and Musketeer Saymar Light Armoured Vehicles for the NPF. The GEJ administration equally looked locally and purchased made in Nigeria Igirigi MRAPs, Nigerian made tactical vests from DICON-Marom Dolphin JVC, and light arms (OBJ-006 assault rifles, FN-FAL/NR-1 assault rifles, Beretta 92/NP-1 pistols, Browning Hi-Power pistols, GPMGs, Mortar tubes and munition, RPGs, from DICON.

For the Americans, we got nothing substantial from them. Just Harris Tactical radios, about 2 (ex-German Luftwaffe and upgraded) Alpha jets bought as attrition replacements bought from a flying club in the US (no US parts), and a bunch of Toyota Land cruiser jeeps and trucks. That's all.

I'm impressed Sir.

And keep up the good work on your pp, God bless Nigeria!
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Itulah(m): 12:06pm On Jul 23, 2015
[size=20pt]Looking forward to that Confused old Cargo of a Liar Mohammed Response.[/size]

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by porka: 12:08pm On Jul 23, 2015
neocortex:
When GEJ and Dasuki were sourcing for underground weapon, APC with the help of "American intelligence" were busy ridiculing Nigeria
in the international stage. They labelled Nigeria as a failed state because it resorted to black market for arms.
Now they have learnt their lesson and I am confident Buhari will have to swallow his pride and follow GEJ's blueprint
in sourcing for weapons.

It is even very baffling to read that Buhari went to source for weapons from the Americans when he told Thisday in Dec 2014 that America is not our traditional arms supplier.

But how will you make the US to supply us arms given the accusations against the military and how will you get Cameroun to cooperate more given the crisis over Bakassi and the border demarcation, bearing in mind their refusal to cooperate up till now?

On the question of the US selling arms to us, the US can influence our traditional arms suppliers but the US is probably not a major supplier of arms to Nigeria as far as I can recall – right from independence till now. But they can influence those that can supply arms to us. As you know, the black market of sourcing military hardware has never been stopped even with international pressure. I think for the weapons we need to fight Boko Haram, a group of people taking arms against the country. I do not think we need weapons of the magnitude people are talking about. Of course, the military was disarmed in order to stabilise democracy. But how can I stabilise the army and get the cooperation of the US to help us and at least to give us the moral support and allow our traditional arms suppliers – France, United Kingdom and Russia – to give facilities for maintaining those weapons like tanks and armoured cars? I believe the US will not stand in the way of a democratic country getting supply of weapons and ammunition to defend itself against internal or even external aggression. As I have said earlier, Cameroun is even fighting Boko Haram more effectively than us. If you would recall that there were some kidnappers that took away the wife of a (vice prime) minister but the Camerounian law enforcement agency got her released.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/buhari-in-quest-to-secure-nigeria/196454/

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by JUHABACH: 12:09pm On Jul 23, 2015
Tosinayoko:
see what jonathan cause... May God reward jonathan of this evil

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Nobody: 12:10pm On Jul 23, 2015
There are even worst human rights abuses and racial profiling in America than many African countries.WI watches how white policemen assaults and shot black teenagers for no just cause.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by mahyowah(m): 12:10pm On Jul 23, 2015
Justcash:



Source: http://dailytimes.com.ng/us-refuses-sell-weapons-nigeria/
if this news is true, then it is nonsense! absolutely!! America sells thousands of arms to Saudi Arabia and the rich gulf nations even when this countries are known for poor human right records. so why Nigeria?

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Nobody: 12:11pm On Jul 23, 2015
I thought Obama said he trusted buhari's govt?

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by porka: 12:12pm On Jul 23, 2015
ClintonNzedimma:

tell him joor, thats the problem with us africans.
Even america is as strong as russia and china combined.
Until Boko Haram moves to his environment, he will even be begging for gay marriage.
Lets swallow our pride and accept.
We have nothing to loose, its already the endtime.

Since you have nothing to lose, you can end your time now.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by jossyj: 12:12pm On Jul 23, 2015
porka:


Iran will get their Nuclear weapons in ten years! (Baring Israeli military strikes and direct confrontation).

The oil is not going away, sooner or later the price will rebound.

The agreement was based on Obama's assumption that in ten years time, Iran's young population won't be interested in belligerency.

It's a foolish assumption.

Bill Clinton also made such a stupid assumption on North Korean back then.

Today, North Korea sits on several hundreds of Nuclear warheads and developing a long range missile to launch it.

The agreement was in Iran's favor more than anyone.

Read between the lines.

Read Netanyanhu's reaction.

Read the Ayatollah's reaction.

Read widely.

Think deeply and make your judgment.

Don't just capitulate at the slightest threat.

When you hear something on CNN make sure you google and compare different opinions on the subject.

A nation is respected because they stand up for something.

Nigeria is the hope of the black-man; the de fac to leader that lesser black people look up to for direction.

Determination is also a good leadership principle.

Buhari and his people know how to stop Boko Haram if they will be honest with themselves.





Good one
you can see far and most times reason not like a blackman if you want to
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by nduchucks: 12:13pm On Jul 23, 2015
This problem has a very simple solution. The military under Buhari's command will operate within the rule of human rights law and satisfy the Leahy requirements.

Additionally proven human rights violators including commanders who authorized beheadings will be prosecuted.

I venture to predict that American weapons will arrive within 6 months. Buhari has already been told what steps to take to comply with the American requirements and he is more than willing to do so.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Btoyob(m): 12:13pm On Jul 23, 2015
Lobatan!!!!
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by boujaye: 12:15pm On Jul 23, 2015
Justcash:



Source: http://dailytimes.com.ng/us-refuses-sell-weapons-nigeria/

America should be bold to tell us that the human right abuse they mean directly or indirectly is the anti gay law. PERIOD.

Buhari must not play games with them.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by sweetgala(m): 12:16pm On Jul 23, 2015
Why the Nigerian army would be looking to buy American is beyond me, at the moment out main military partnership has been with Pakistan over the last 10-20 years, we have dicon who should be rolling up their sleeves and providing small arms solutions and improving our manufacturing capacity.

We are starting to produce adequate quality APC and small armoured fighting vehicles , sincerely innoson need to partner with Dicon and design a multi purpose infantry vehicle (armoured ofcouse) and a car for security services (police etc)

Over the last 3 generations of military aircraft, Russia has dominated , even the F22 and F35 are just overpriced deathtraps as the A10 thunderbolt designer called it, Russian kit is cheaper and far better suited to our military needs, the likes of the JF-17 being developed by Pakistan is a good quality , cheap maintenance aircraft

China seems to be very eager to give us their previous generation war ships, one or two aircraft carriers wouldn't be bad, Britain have plans to decommission a few over the next 4 years , they're are too broke to refuse our money
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by pazienza(m): 12:21pm On Jul 23, 2015
porka:


Iran will get their Nuclear weapons in ten years! (Baring Israeli military strikes and direct confrontation).

The oil is not going away, sooner or later the price will rebound.

The agreement was based on Obama's assumption that in ten years time, Iran's young population won't be interested in belligerency.

It's a foolish assumption.

Bill Clinton also made such a stupid assumption on North Korean back then.

Today, North Korea sits on several hundreds of Nuclear warheads and developing a long range missile to launch it.

The agreement was in Iran's favor more than anyone.

Read between the lines.

Read Netanyanhu's reaction.

Read the Ayatollah's reaction.

Read widely.

Think deeply and make your judgment.

Don't just capitulate at the slightest threat.

When you hear something on CNN make sure you google and compare different opinions on the subject.

A nation is respected because they stand up for something.

Nigeria is the hope of the black-man; the de fac to leader that lesser black people look up to for direction.

Determination is also a good leadership principle.

Buhari and his people know how to stop Boko Haram if they will be honest with themselves.

I don't see how the deal is to Iran's favour. The moment they default, they are back to square one. It's more about national pride than anything.

And you must know, Iran's condition is not the Same as Nigeria's, Iran( Persia) is an ancient nation whose people are united by a prestigious past, Nigeria is an artificial entity, destabilizing Nigeria is as Easy as they come. http://www.rt.com/news/246477-iran-nuclear-deal-explained/

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by doncaster(m): 12:22pm On Jul 23, 2015
Finished reading from page one to the last page, only one poster blamed GEJ. Are Nigerians coming back to there senses?

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by nduchucks: 12:23pm On Jul 23, 2015
May I also point out that the Joint Task Force which will start full operation within weeks has not been accused of human rights violations and these American weapons including drones, Apaches and others have already been delivered to the force.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by doncaster(m): 12:24pm On Jul 23, 2015
pazienza:


I don't see how the deal is to Iran's favour. The moment they default, they are back to square one. It's more about national pride than anything.

And you must know, Iran's condition is not the Same as Nigeria's, Iran is an ancient country whose people are united by a prestigious past, Nigeria is an artificial entity, destabilizing Nigeria is as Easy as they come. http://www.rt.com/news/246477-iran-nuclear-deal-explained/
From the reaction of Natanyahu you would noticed that the deal is not in favor of Israel. Once it's not in favor of Israel it favors Iran.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by mediachirps(m): 12:27pm On Jul 23, 2015
Misternas89:
Hmmm,so they aren't ready to assist due to Leahy law or what? I don't blame d American anyways but my country where the dignity and respect was no where to be found anymore. I have a dream dt the country will still be a better place if not the best.
keep dreaming

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ClintonNzedimma(m): 12:27pm On Jul 23, 2015
porka:


Since you have nothing to lose, you can end your time now.
dont be deceived my friend.
We are nothing but the grass in the battle of 2 elephants fighting a non-conventional war.
We failed to build our nation at the beginning to be strong today, now we are reaping the failures of our leaders.
Russia will also make their own demands, China too.
Lets not look at them as saint, its wise to be on the American side because they are very powerful even more than Russia and China combined.
Americans are wolves in sheep clothing, who told you we cant also approach them as an enemy in disguise as a friend?
If we got to Russia or China, it will be a terrible mistake because the sanctions we will receive from U.S alone will make our economy worse than it is, not even talking
about the sanctions from E.U and all other entitiy yoked to American power.
If you have a better idea on how to stop Insurgency, spill it cos my Uncle is on National duty in Borno state and has lost his colleagues because of lack of resources.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ocelot2006(m): 12:29pm On Jul 23, 2015
nduchucks:
This problem has a very simple solution. The military under Buhari's command will operate within the rule of human rights law and satisfy the Leahy requirements.

Additionally proven human rights violators including commanders who authorized beheadings will be prosecuted.

I venture to predict that American weapons will arrive within 6 months. Buhari has already been told what steps to take to comply with the American requirements and he is more than willing to do so.

Even if Nigeria operates with a HEAVENLY MAN DATE with the rules written by Angel Gabriel, the Americans still will NOT sell weapon platforms like attack helicopters and fighter jets to us. And even if they do, EVERY THING will be tied to some very very very useless clause (s) that we MUST adhere to. And even if we do, God help us if we fall out with them. Overall, we're dining with the devil. GMB made a very useless mistake here. We used Russian+Ukrainian+Isreali+Chinese+Czech+Nigerian+South African weapons to defeat and almost exterminate Boko Haram under GEJ'S watch. Why the hell did GMB choose to abandon that reliable path for the Americans who backstabbeed us and blocked every western weapons sale to us in our time of need? That was plain stupidity.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by CyberWolf: 12:30pm On Jul 23, 2015
cescky:



the man was looking to score a cheap political goal........ie win where gej lost, unfortunately for him now, he looks real dumb, and further exposes the fact that hes a vengeful and hateful character


who knows maybe he was asked if he will probe the halliburton scandal......and he said no, perhaps thats why he was turned down

obj troubling nigeria since he left prison....we easily forget he was president when boko animals started, yet the leader then was caught and secretly murderd to hide those behind him

he installed yaradua, which led to jonathan, whom he couldnt control
we all know buhari is his boy , and he campigned vehemently for him......now the aboooki cant get weapons because of this same obj

the worst part is the old man obj doesn't respect himself as an elder statesman and shut his diaheria mouth up
succinctly put...Let's just watch, only time will tell..

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by IBBG(m): 12:32pm On Jul 23, 2015
Firefire:


Buhari and APC eyes don dey clear small small


Buhari and APC go soon know sey garri don pass water with all their malicious and baseless accusation.

Terrorism is a matter of national security that should never be politicized.

Lie Mohammed, ACN & APC did.

RIP to the dead.
exactly, they are reaping the evil the sowed. now they'ved realized that governance is not ewedu and amala or kwunu. It is really getting hot for them. It is very easy to criticize wen u're not the one wearing the crown. Their undoing was riduculing n making public spectacle of the last administration. now i understand why Gej was in a hurry to concede defeat and hand over power to them.

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by pazienza(m): 12:33pm On Jul 23, 2015
doncaster:
From the reaction of Natanyahu you would noticed that the deal is not in favor of Israel. Once it's not in favor of Israel it favors Iran.

Well, the West wanted an Iran that is Incapable of producing nuclear war heads, and that's exactly what they have got.

With IAEA having unlimited access to Iran's nuclear program, I don't see how this is a victory for Iran.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by enolife(m): 12:33pm On Jul 23, 2015
Nope
America is extremely looking for opportunity to come in and destroy Nigeria.
base on Obama comments, I quote " we will help Nigeria if they remain on course". this means that America want Nigeria to do the following things
1 accept gay law
2 allow his troops to come into Nigeria to fight Bh.

Nigeria will receive help if they say yes the above conditions.

hell to you American and Obama... We will never accept gay law and we will not Allow you to fight our fight so that you can destroy our country.
one thing I know and believe is that we will over the Boko Haram one day without America help.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by baralatie(m): 12:36pm On Jul 23, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
They want him to first legalise gay marriage then they will even give us nuclear warheads to level sambisa and even Bornu. I smh.. embarassed embarassed
wicked! somebody just burst with heavy laugh!

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jul 23, 2015
The true story is that Obama as a business man tabled a proposal to him....
[/b]approve and enact the gay law and boko haram will be wiped out[b]
Buhari was like....
[/b]walahi, me no dey dere...[b] grin grin
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by JustCalMeDBoss(m): 12:38pm On Jul 23, 2015
Obama I love u for this, I want this govt to fail.
Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by ogb5(m): 12:39pm On Jul 23, 2015
IBBG:
exactly, they are reaping the evil the sowed. now they'ved realized that governance is not ewedu and amala or kwunu. It is really getting hot for them. It is very easy to criticize wen u're not the one wearing the crown. Their undoing was riduculing n making public spectacle of the last administration. now i understand why Gej was in a hurry to concede defeat and hand over power to them.

It is good that Jonathan handed over to their son. At least Jonathan can now travel in peace round the world on vacation and watch them kill themselves. Either Boko Haram kill them or they kill Boko Haram.

Instead of speaking against Boko Haram at the unset of the madness, buhari said a fight against Boko Haram is a fight against the north, why is he asking for us weapons now?

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Re: America Has Refused To Sell Weapons To Buhari by chineloSA(f): 12:39pm On Jul 23, 2015
I wonder how does it work?

Saudi Arabia has a similar record, but US sell them arms.

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