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| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by zuchyblink(m): 6:07pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
passes gas....passes gas....poos on thread......runs away.. Na the same ppl(divide and rulers) |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by fulanimafia: 6:08pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:That is the typical arrogance of some Ibos when referring to people of the SS. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by wakaman: 6:08pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
Biafra un-united FC ![]() |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 6:09pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
CreampieAngela:igboland is our land and we are not going to any biafra |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 6:11pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
asha80:you mean the kids running around this faceless forum claiming igbo? Most of them prob do not know their origin. they should go back and ask their fathers and grand fathers |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by modhream: 6:14pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
Hahahahaha. An article by Kunirum Ossai,of all people. Idiot shacris,you should've done more due diligence about the author before posting your trash on here.Guy has been discredited and ostracized by almost all Anioma socio-cultural organizations long ago |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by asha80(m): 6:16pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:which kids?and what if they are from anioma but identify themselves as Igbo how does that concern or hurt you?is it not said by people who are so much interested in any anioma person saying he is not Igbo that Igbo people should allow one identify with what he wants?so if the person chooses Igbo you now turn back and ask him to ask his parents?what if he I not interested in that? |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by asha80(m): 6:19pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
By the way sachris why did you add asaba to the title?anioma alone never dey enough for you?why not add Onitsha too in the process(if you really know history well) or even ogbaru or oguta?man must work hard for his money |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 6:21pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
modhream:you mean this illustrious son of anioma? http://www.dna-nigeria.com/rev-fr-dr-john-kunirum-osia-1940-2014-friend-ibusa/ Read and liberate yourself man. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 6:23pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
asha80:is asaba not in anioma? |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by asha80(m): 6:24pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:funny how a non Igbo Ralph uwechue became ohaneze president(not that the groups is anything to be proud off) |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by asha80(m): 6:25pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:if you know the history of Onitsha,ogbaru and oguta you will know why I asked that question.if are not knowledgeable then read |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by SonOfEl(m): 6:32pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
IF OP LIKES, HIS OR HER FAMILY CAN UNCLAIM THEIR IGBONESS..... OKONJO-IWEALA IS MARRIED TO AN UMUAHIA MAN, HER FAMILY AND KINSMANS IN DELTA STATE ARE PROUDLY AND UNAPOLOGETICALLY IGBO..... BIAFRAN COMMANDER "AIR RAID" ACHUZIA IS PROUDLY AND UNAPOLOGETICALLY IGBO OKOCHA NO DEY HIDE IM IGBONESS NZEOGWU NEVER DENIED HIS IGBONESS. CHIEF OSADEBE WHO COINED THE WORD, "ANIOMA", " GOOD LAND", PROUDLY PROCLAIMED HIS FAMILIES IGBONESS. MY FRIENDS FROM ASABA, OGWASHI, ONICHA-UGBO ARE PROUDLY FLAUNTING THEIR IGBONESS..... OP, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN GO TO BLAZES, WE DONT NEED YOU OR YOUR COCK AND BULL STORY..... SINCE YOU AINT IGBO, THEN LEAVE ASABA OKAY? EVEN THE LATE MIRIAM BABANGIDA WILL SPIT ON YOUR FACE FOR TRYING TO REWRITE THE HISTORY OF ASABA..... EZE CHIME, THE IGBO ANCESTOR OF DELTA IGBOS, SPITS AT YOUR FAMILY. WE DONT NEED YOU, GO TO BLAZES. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by modhream: 6:34pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:Idiot. I can send you more links to sites about the man n how he was taken down by fellow Anioma for his failed quest to create a new ethnic nationality. Didn't you even read from the link you posted?.For all his work,as a priest n more,in Ibusa,they didn't even recognize him while he lived cos of his assinine quest to call them what they're not. You really are too slow,this your divide and rule quest for your masters.Get yourself upgraded. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by melzabull(f): 6:35pm On Aug 06, 2015*. Modified: 6:57pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
this accursed bastad again? lmao. Some people are just hopeless. everyday this bastad creates one useless thread or the other trying to incite Igbos against themselves. OK shacfool I have heard you, I am not Igbo I am Arab. Chineke bi na enu igwe kpo kwa gi oku. Ekwensu! My Anioma brothers come and listen to this ewu'o. onenaira3, fr3do, ELTON123, menabadoo, amagmilton etc lmao |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by phantom(m): 6:39pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
Plenty plenty english ......just to dissociate themselves from "the vanquished". Its all good.Dont worry,we,the "igbos" know there are consequences for loosing a War. We have come to terms with it,so please save your Queens english. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by PedroJP(m): 6:42pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:I did say u are d owner of the post, but u only engage in anti Igbo topics. U carry anti Igbo matter for head like say dem tie am for ur head. U ARE NO IGBO MAN. IDENTIFY URSELF WITH UR TRIBE. BE MAN ENOUGH PLS. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Mckennedy: 6:51pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:this particular post identified who you are!! shut your smelly mouth there's no different in igbo language,,,we have one igbo language..how about yolobas who claim and faught about lagos wheresa the original owners speaks Egun and Aworis as their languages with different cultures differ from yolobas?? yet yoruba will die convincing how they are their brother. lets leave the sleeping dog to rest if not I will open your nyash. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by zendy: 7:03pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
I'm happy that it is just a few Delta-Igbos or Anioma people who have this identity crises. Someone speaks Igbo as his ancestral language, has an Igbo surname, but turns around to say they are not Igbo. Someone has to explain this one to me............... |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:04pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
SonOfEl:do you know that huasas and fulanis speak bear the same name, and some hausa lands bear fulani name. Does that in any way make Huasas fulanimen? |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:09pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
modhream:it's like you didn't have enough data to open the link. Let me help you. I write this tribute more as a post-humus expression of appreciation to an Anioma icon, Reverend Father, Scholar, Adjunct Professor, Linguist, Administrator, Anthropologist, Rehabilitation Officer and Journalist. He was a gift to Ibusa, an ancient Anioma community founded in the 13th C; a community belonging to the period that settlements were respected for battles fought and won by their people. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:11pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
PedroJP:i don't have anything to prove to you. My being igbo does not stop me from saying the truth, even when it is against my tribes opinion. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:12pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
melzabull:otu gbawakwa gi. Akwuna ego ise. Stop corrupting the igbo ancestry because of your material ambition. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:14pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
Mckennedy:The same thing you are accusing Britain of, if what you are perpetrating on the innocent people of anioma kingdom. When will you and your likes quite being hypocrites? |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:15pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
zendy:Yet some in anioma speak yoruba and have yoruba surname. Some have benin surname and speak bini. can you still explain that? |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by fr3do(m): 7:15pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
phantom:All these cowardly denials began only after the war. Even if indeed they are not Igbo as they claim, it doesn't warrant the level of anti-igbo sentiments the average Igbo-denier has. The most negative aftermath of the war is Igbo disunity. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by modhream: 7:18pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:Jesus! You this daft or just deliberately obtuse?.The author of that tribute clearly stated that that's his own opinion while acknowledging his community think otherwise. Indeed,you have comprehension and other cognitive problems.I really pity you |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:21pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
modhream:you this zombie boy, you are the one that has comprehension problem. You are yet to post a contrary opinion about the Rev Father...an Ordained priest of the catholic church. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:23pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
fr3do:did ojukwu massacre asaba people or not? How can ojukwu masacre his own people? The experience of Ibusa in that war was characterized by extremely unpleasant destruction of lives and properties that other Anioma communities equally suffered except that there was a Rev Fr. Osia to prevent it from that vapid kind of massacre that would have wiped away its entire women, children and youths. Osia explains it better when he wrote that ‘consequent upon the military coup of January 15, 1966, hundreds if not thousands of Anioma indigenes were killed in a pogrom unleashed against the Ibo living in the North. Because Anioma people were seen as ‘Igbo’ they got their share of that macabre slaughter of people’. In 1967, the 2 Division of the Nigerian Army commanded by Lt. Col Murtala Mohammed advanced into the Mid-West State to push out Biafra but their action occasioned massacre in Anioma. As hundreds of people mostly defenceless women and children were ordered or lured out of hiding, lined up and shot in a summary manner in Asaba that became the first massacre ever seen in the whole of Africa. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by modhream: 7:25pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shachris:Oh,the idiot now wants to bring the church into it?.FYI,I am Catholic as well Scratched Face. You brought up an article of revised history without doing due diligence on the author and I called you out.Now you want to deviate to religion.Sorry,that your shiny-object tactic won't work |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 7:27pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
modhream:Zombie, present your own research on the author or STFU. |
| Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by winniz: 7:29pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
[quote author=[s][/s]shachris post=36677613]For decades we, Anioma people, have been buffeted back and forth by people attempting to impose a persona on us. Some described us as being neither here nor there. Others do not give us chance to define and describe who we are as a people. We know exactly who we are. We have no confusions about our geography and genealogy. We know that identity is like gold. Just as the gold bar stands behind a currency as a guarantee of its legal tender, so is identity to an individual or a group. The analogy is only partial, of course, the price of gold may rise or fall, but we tend to pride ourselves on the stability of our identity. Anioma ethnic identity is a value we must guard. In recent times we have contended with the intrusion into Anioma world what we might call the concept of, albeit, reality of Igbocentricism. By Igbocentrism or Igbocentricity we mean an existential point of view that puts Igbo at the centre of Igbo people's cosmology. Central to Igbocentrism is the idea that people believed or assumed to be Igbo must acknowledge, understand and love their "Igboness" so as to understand and deal with non-Igbo. It is a conceptual approach to human relations from the Igbo point of view. It is an Igbo-centeredness of interpretation of such relations and quotidian realities. Because the vast majority of Anioma people speak dialects derived from the Igbo language, it is assumed that they are "Igbo." Anioma history records individuals from diverse origins. There are in Anioma the "Olukunmi" who speak a variant of Yoruba spoken around Owo. Ebu people in Anioma speak Igala as their mother tongue. While language delimits cultural fields, it is not permanent because people have mastered more than one language. Language is one of many indices of a culture. Language is not enough to define who a people are. Because Americans or Australians speak English does not make them English. Because Mexicans, Cubans, or Argentineans speak Spanish does not make them Spaniards. The nationals of these countries will not introduce themselves as "English" simply because they speak English nor as Spaniards because they speak Spanish. Those of them who can trace their origin to England or Spain know that over time they have formed a new identity called "American," "Australian," "Mexican," "Cuban," or "Argentinean." Anioma people recognize a geographical contiguity, a clearly defined historicity and cultural commonality, that in their consciousness they define as their collective identity. Our Anioma ethnic identity derives from our common set of symbols and cognition shared by our people: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika and Oshimili share the same cultural space and delimited physical geography. They dress and dance alike, and use the same musical instruments. The systemic prolonged subordination and marginalization has lead to the gradual radicalization of our youth and elders, as exemplified by the formation of many Anioma associations in Nigeria and abroad. The Anioma are a Nigerian people in terms of their geographical location and ancestral pedigree; in terms of the criteria and categories that are applicable in defining other Nigerian groups, and in terms of their cultural forms and institutions which they have evolved for themselves and which are comparable to those of other ethnic groups, with a specificity that is syncretic in its manifestations. Located at the crossroads of diverse influences, Anioma has developed a syncretic culture rich in varied contributions, and we rightly can talk of an identity that is uniquely Anioma not replicable anywhere in Nigeria. Through culture contact or cultural cross-pollination, borrowing from contiguous neighbours, Anioma displays cultural syncretism in the real sense of the word. History notes that Anioma people trace their origins to Edo, Igala, Yoruba and Igbo. Ibusa (Igbo Uzo) and one part of Ogwashiuku trace their ancestry to Igbo. All other Anioma people trace their origins in entirety to Edo, Igala and Yoruba. From none other than Chief Dennis Osadebay, comes an uncontested account of the origin of 'Ahaba'. Eri, son of Achado, a king of Igala founded the towns of Aguleri, Umuleri, Igbariam and Nteje. If logic is any guide here, Eri we might reason would found a community with the people he knew, namely, Igala. Nnebisi the founder of 'Ahaba' was from Nteje founded by Eri the prince from Igala. Nnebisi married an Igala woman he had won as a prize from the Igala fishermen and traders who frequented 'Ahaba'. This is the verifiable story of the origin of 'Ahaba' (now Asaba). Osadebay said that another migrant came from Benin and settled in 'Ahaba,' "and so the present natives of Asaba are descendants of Igala in the north, Benin in the west, and Ibo in the east" (Osadebay, Building a Nation, Macmillan, Nigeria Ltd, 1978 p.2). With this from Chief Osadebay, which to our best research has never been denied nor contradicted, we argue that Asaba people are the least Igbo among the very few segments of Anioma that claim Igbo ancestry. With such a background, one would have thought that the identity of Anioma people would never be a matter of debate nor an issue that might unsettle the tranquility of informed mind. Yet, writings about Anioma people are replete with misconceptions, distortions, selectivity, inaccuracies and just blatant falsehood. Even some Anioma writers peddle stories diffracted into multiple and apocryphal histories that present every Anioma person originating from Nri in Igboland. May we remind the few of Igbo ancestry how much distance the passage of time and the vicissitudes of history have placed between them and their origin? Similarly, we would remind one or two traditional leaders who argue for extension of Igbo hegemony to Anioma, that they are bartering their honour and royalty for vacuous glory in Igboland, and that they do not represent Anioma people. This muddle as to the definition of an Anioma is not intrinsic to the Anioma identity, but rather a problem fused into the tinted lenses of Igbocentrism through which the Anioma people have erroneously been viewed over the ages. The kinds of questions posed, presuppositions made, set of axioms posited, and the very methodological approaches adopted in many publications betray Igbo bias and oftentimes arrogance of Igbocentricity. The cumulative result of this imposed paradigm has been a people dispossessed of their identity, their history, and, to a great extent, their political and economic rights. Any Anioma person who feels inadequate unless called "Anioma- Igbo," has serious identity problem. Osadebay and his group coined and christened us with the name "Anioma." They were satisfied with what it meant and what it represented for our people. The Igbocentric conception of Anioma people as "our kith and kin across the Niger" is a fallacy of baseless proportion. Thus, Igbocentrism has not only set the terms of the debate on Anioma identity, it has consumed our intellectual autonomy to counterpoise it with Aniomacentric methodology. This capitulation to Igbocentric paradigm of identity is part of a wider syndrome of intellectual dependency precipitated by homegrown colonialism. We may ask, where was this "kith and kin across the Niger" platitude when our forbears fought the Ekumeku wars of 1883 to 1914, which pitted them against the British through the instrumentality of the Royal Niger Company to dominate trade, culture, social and political lives of our people; when the Second Division of the Nigerian Army commanded by Murtala Mohammed marched into Anioma areas in pursuit of the fleeing 'Biafran Expeditionary Force' and massacred our people at Asaba and Isheagu with such macabre ruthlessness and vapidity; when in 1970 several high ranking Anioma military officers were detained for months (one of them for years) in Port Harcourt prison after Biafra surrendered on January 12, 1970, even though as these officers put it to the writer in their letter to him dated June 7, 1970, to seek help from Governor Ogbemudia, wrote, "...that all other officers of former Eastern Region origin (Ibos, Efiks, Ijaws etc) have been released..." and when in 1996 our people were assured of support from Ndi Igbo during our quest for Anioma state? Anioma state was not created instead Ebonyi was, thanks to the last minute turn around and support from Ndi Igbo. This experience was articulated by Professor Ijomah during the Congress of Izu-Anioma held at the POCO Plaza, Ogwashiuku, March 3rd, 1998, when he said, "... it was agreed during the last state creation exercise that Anioma State should be created. When the stakes were down, the Ibos across the Niger abandoned the Anioma quest at the last hour and supported the creation of Ebonyi State which was not seriously being canvassed before then, causing Anioma to lose." (The ANIOMA, Vol. 10, No 1, May, 1999, p. 11). Anioma people should not be hoodwinked by Ndi Igbo. Recently, Igbos have renewed their gimmickry of support for the creation of Anioma state. All they want is their grandiose illusion of 'Greater Igbo' comprising Anioma and some parts of Rivers State. Only Anioma can provide us an essential part of our historical consciousness, and an index to the universal psychic character of our identity. Only Anioma can communicate a sense of history to us. Anioma culture sustains the vocabulary of moral prescriptions and a repertoire of covenant with visible and invisible entities. There are areas designated as secular and sacred; some creatures are deemed sacred and should not be killed nor be eaten; some vegetation considered sacred should not be eaten as vegetables. Anioma culture sees unity and sanctity in nature. Philosophically, it fuses cosmology and cosmogony. It shapes our experiencing and perceiving. It teaches us the canons of relevance and evidence. We come to ourselves through our choice of our archetypes. We have maintained cool-headedness in the face of provocation from Igbos who call us 'Hausa Igbo', Ika-Igbo and now Anioma-Igbo. Such appellations are as insulting and denigrating as they are meaningless and nonsensical. We reject attempts to Igbonize Anioma. We do not inhabit the same historical and cultural space with Igbos. When ethnicity becomes subject to the elaborations of cultural identity politics, it often develops into a focus of symbolic contestation. Those wanting Anioma to become "Anioma-Igbo" undermine the efforts of our founding fathers who christened us "ANIOMA." Osadebay puts everything in perspective when he stated, "Strictly speaking, Ibo is a linguistic group or a language, not a tribe, as all Ibo- speaking people do not claim origin from any common ancestor" (Osadebay op. cit. 1978, p.14). Reckless utterances and writings coming from some Igbo people, through Ohaneze Ndigbo and their internet forum intellectuals, that the creation of Anioma state would increase Igbo states, damage Anioma cause. The quest for the creation of Anioma state preceded the creation of the 36 Nigerian states. Identity is built on choices and commitments. By committing ourselves to Anioma causes our real selves develop. An obstacle to achieving identity is the temptation to avoid choices and postpone decisions. Let us proclaim Anioma by the Enu Ani language that we speak; by the Ika language that we speak; by the Ndokwa language that we speak; by the Olukunmi language that we speak and by the Igala language that we speak. We should intensify our efforts on the creation of Anioma state where our people will be central characters rather than simple bit players, where the importance of our history lies in its significance for us rather than for others. We do not want to be a pawn simply to checkmate the contending and competing interests of other nationalities in the larger Nigerian collectivity. Our journey involves more than navigating the geography of political boundaries. It is a continuous mapping and remapping of the geography of our culture and identity. We no longer wish to be objects in the history of others rather we wish to be subjects of our own history. Our Anioma ethnic identity is cultural self- definition and philosophical affirmation of our self- determination as a people who see themselves at the crossroads of contemporary Nigeria. It is a refusal to accept the transposition of other people's interpretive categories on Anioma. We bear the name of Anioma with exalted pride, dignity and fidelity. We cherish our distinct identity and unique culture. So, efforts to fit Anioma into the constructs and schemata of Igbo provenance are futile. Kunirum Osia is the former Founding National President of Anioma Association, USA, Inc. http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2009/may/111.html[s][/s][/quote]This APC paid Idiott can't stop posting rubbish. |
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