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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by NormalCodes: 8:35pm On Aug 06, 2015
Earthwide:
Last week, u said u from Abia state, to u re now from Anioma. Now wow for jobless idiot

On another day he is from IMO state.

The guy is thoroughly frustrated.
Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by abagoro(m): 8:37pm On Aug 06, 2015
shachris:


the truth might be bitter But it must be told my brother. Don't impose your identify on people that do not want to be identified with you.

Esogbue wrote this piece 3 years ago and we ironed it out decisively on Nairaland then. Anioma is not a clan or ethnic group but a coinage derived from various groups whose main unifying factor is common Igbo language and Benin influence. It is no different from Abia as a coinage whose main unifying factor is common Igbo language and Cross River influence.

That said, Aniocha and Oshimili are Igbos while Ika, Aboh and Ukwuani are yet to figure out their own identity. Asaba, Ogwashi, Igbo Uzo etc are purely Igbo and nothing else.

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by winniz: 8:41pm On Aug 06, 2015
[/s]shachris:


Asaba is not the headquater of Delta State by accident. Indeed being an headquarter is not strange to it. In the periods back, it was the choice of the British as the capital of Southern Nigeria because of the potentials within the town. The River Niger has served the town for centuries providing it with sense of security against external aggression or invasion and also helps the people to do their domestic responsibilities. It has also been environmentally fair to the people and above all, added to the beauty of the town and region.



Because of lack of records, historical accounts on the origin of the people are too diverse but popular Aguleri oral account believes that a warrior and hunter from Eri migrated from Igalla land and settled near the bank of River Omabala. Nnebisi the warrior and hunter married Nono which resulted in the birth of Agulu and Adaugbo (female) The male children founded towns which still bear their names today.



The oral history of the people regards the Ikelike people who migrated from Benin as the first settlers on the land which is today called Asaba. There was Ugboma often regarded as the second settler migrant from Achata in Awka District he settled in Obodo Achala still in existence today but due to ceaseless wars which took place many of these settlers resettled in Achala-Igbuzo, Okpanam and Kwala where they can still be found today. Ugboma was the second settler.



Anyanwu, the most important settler and a great builder of Asaba is recognized for making the city what it is today. He arrived from Obosi. His father was said to be one of the retreating members of Chime family escaping from the wrought of Oba of Benin. Anyanwu settled in a place close to Ugboma and bare a son named Odikpe the founder of today’s Idumu Odikpe in the town.[s]



Shame on you this APC paid poster, you ain't even from Anioma, yet you keep posting crap all over the place.

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by winniz: 8:44pm On Aug 06, 2015
NormalCodes:


On another day he is from IMO state.

The guy is thoroughly frustrated.

That dderanged oaf shachris is just defending his pay, so Take that half wit serious at your own peril!

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by coolitempa(f): 8:48pm On Aug 06, 2015
SonOfEl:


God hates 7 things, and the worse is jamming brothers against another....

I say it again, you are satanic...

Sachris....thank you for spreading the truth......I have been saying this for a long time.....Anioma people are more from d great Benin Kingdom....even their kings like the dein of agbor has said d same but still.........ibos want to force them to be part of them.......thank u for saying it as it really is..... grin grin angry....oliseh....azikiwe.....Dein of Agbor etc...all these Anioma people have said they are not ibo but still d lies continue.....is it by force...

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by SonOfEl(m): 8:49pm On Aug 06, 2015
BermudaTriangle:



Oh, e pain am so much e dey foam for mouth, what a pity.

is that all you loser can post? Satan's bvtch...
Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Afam4eva(m): 8:49pm On Aug 06, 2015
Such a hateful article could only have come from the most hateful Anioma man in the person of Kunirum Osia. He is the ring leader in this absurdity and has managed to convince Igboists such as Emeka Esogbue who has in the past few years embraced such brazen idiocy.
Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Mckennedy: 8:51pm On Aug 06, 2015
shachris:


The same thing you are accusing Britain of, if what you are perpetrating on the innocent people of anioma kingdom. When will you and your likes quite being hypocrites?
and what will you say about egun and Aworis whose languages are quite different from yolobas?

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by SonOfEl(m): 8:56pm On Aug 06, 2015
coolitempa:


Sachris....thank you for spreading the truth......I have been saying this for a long time.....Anioma people are more from d great Benin Kingdom....even their kings like the dein of agbor has said d same but still.........ibos want to force them to be part of them.......thank u for saying it as it really is..... grin grin angry....oliseh....azikiwe.....Dein of Agbor etc...all these Anioma people have said they are not ibo but still d lies continue.....is it by force...

keep deceiving yourselves.... my PhD supervisor is proudly Igbo from agbor, delta Igbo will continue to contribute to the IGBONESS of ohaneze ndigbo.....zik of Africa will always be celebrated as Nigeria Igbo nationalist. so sniff Ebola....

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 8:58pm On Aug 06, 2015
shachris:


For decades we, Anioma people, have been buffeted back
and forth by people attempting to impose a persona on
us. Some described us as being neither here nor there.
Others do not give us chance to define and describe who
we are as a people. We know exactly who we are. We have no
confusions about our geography and genealogy. We know that
identity is like gold. Just as the gold bar stands behind a currency
as a guarantee of its legal tender, so is identity to an individual
or a group. The analogy is only partial, of course, the price of gold
may rise or fall, but we tend to pride ourselves on the stability of
our identity. Anioma ethnic identity is a value we must guard. In
recent times we have contended with the intrusion into Anioma
world what we might call the concept of, albeit, reality of
Igbocentricism.

By Igbocentrism or Igbocentricity
we mean an existential point of
view that puts Igbo at the centre of
Igbo people's cosmology. Central
to Igbocentrism is the idea that
people believed or assumed to be
Igbo must acknowledge,
understand and love their
"Igboness" so as to understand
and deal with non-Igbo. It is a
conceptual approach to human
relations from the Igbo point of
view. It is an Igbo-centeredness of
interpretation of such relations
and quotidian realities. Because
the vast majority of Anioma people speak dialects derived from
the Igbo language, it is assumed that they are "Igbo." Anioma
history records individuals from diverse origins. There are in
Anioma the "Olukunmi" who speak a variant of Yoruba spoken
around Owo. Ebu people in Anioma speak Igala as their mother
tongue.

While language delimits cultural fields, it is not permanent
because people have mastered more than one language. Language
is one of many indices of a culture. Language is not enough to
define who a people are. Because Americans or Australians speak
English does not make them English. Because Mexicans, Cubans,
or Argentineans speak Spanish does not make them Spaniards.
The nationals of these countries will not introduce themselves as
"English" simply because they speak English nor as Spaniards
because they speak Spanish. Those of them who can trace their
origin to England or Spain know that over time they have formed
a new identity called "American," "Australian," "Mexican,"
"Cuban," or "Argentinean."

Anioma people recognize a geographical contiguity, a clearly
defined historicity and cultural commonality, that in their
consciousness they define as their collective identity. Our Anioma
ethnic identity derives from our common set of symbols and
cognition shared by our people: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika and
Oshimili share the same cultural space and delimited physical
geography. They dress and dance alike, and use the same musical
instruments. The systemic prolonged subordination and
marginalization has lead to the gradual radicalization of our
youth and elders, as exemplified by the formation of many
Anioma associations in Nigeria and abroad.
The Anioma are a Nigerian people in terms of their geographical
location and ancestral pedigree; in terms of the criteria and
categories that are applicable in defining other Nigerian groups,
and in terms of their cultural forms and institutions which they
have evolved for themselves and which are comparable to those
of other ethnic groups, with a specificity that is syncretic in its
manifestations.

Located at the crossroads of diverse influences, Anioma has
developed a syncretic culture rich in varied contributions, and
we rightly can talk of an identity that is uniquely Anioma not
replicable anywhere in Nigeria. Through culture contact or
cultural cross-pollination, borrowing from contiguous neighbours,
Anioma displays cultural syncretism in the real sense of the
word. History notes that Anioma people trace their origins to
Edo, Igala, Yoruba and Igbo. Ibusa (Igbo Uzo) and one part of
Ogwashiuku trace their ancestry to Igbo. All other Anioma people
trace their origins in entirety to Edo, Igala and Yoruba. From
none other than Chief Dennis Osadebay, comes an uncontested
account of the origin of 'Ahaba'. Eri, son of Achado, a king of
Igala founded the towns of Aguleri, Umuleri, Igbariam and Nteje.
If logic is any guide here, Eri we might reason would found a
community with the people he knew, namely, Igala. Nnebisi the
founder of 'Ahaba' was from Nteje founded by Eri the prince
from Igala. Nnebisi married an Igala woman he had won as a
prize from the Igala fishermen and traders who frequented
'Ahaba'. This is the verifiable story of the origin of 'Ahaba' (now
Asaba).

Osadebay said that another migrant came from Benin and settled
in 'Ahaba,' "and so the present natives of Asaba are descendants
of Igala in the north, Benin in the west, and Ibo in the
east" (Osadebay, Building a Nation, Macmillan, Nigeria Ltd, 1978
p.2). With this from Chief Osadebay, which to our best research
has never been denied nor contradicted, we argue that Asaba
people are the least Igbo among the very few segments of Anioma
that claim Igbo ancestry.

With such a background, one would have thought that the identity
of Anioma people would never be a matter of debate nor an issue
that might unsettle the tranquility of informed mind. Yet,
writings about Anioma people are replete with misconceptions,
distortions, selectivity, inaccuracies and just blatant falsehood.
Even some Anioma writers peddle stories diffracted into multiple
and apocryphal histories that present every Anioma person
originating from Nri in Igboland. May we remind the few of Igbo
ancestry how much distance the passage of time and the
vicissitudes of history have placed between them and their
origin? Similarly, we would remind one or two traditional leaders
who argue for extension of Igbo hegemony to Anioma, that they
are bartering their honour and royalty for vacuous glory in
Igboland, and that they do not represent Anioma people.
This muddle as to the definition of an Anioma is not intrinsic to
the Anioma identity, but rather a problem fused into the tinted
lenses of Igbocentrism through which the Anioma people have
erroneously been viewed over the ages. The kinds of questions
posed, presuppositions made, set of axioms posited, and the very
methodological approaches adopted in many publications betray
Igbo bias and oftentimes arrogance of Igbocentricity. The
cumulative result of this imposed paradigm has been a people
dispossessed of their identity, their history, and, to a great extent,
their political and economic rights.

Any Anioma person who feels inadequate unless called "Anioma-
Igbo," has serious identity problem. Osadebay and his group
coined and christened us with the name "Anioma." They were
satisfied with what it meant and what it represented for our
people. The Igbocentric conception of Anioma people as "our kith
and kin across the Niger" is a fallacy of baseless proportion. Thus,
Igbocentrism has not only set the terms of the debate on Anioma
identity, it has consumed our intellectual autonomy to
counterpoise it with Aniomacentric methodology. This
capitulation to Igbocentric paradigm of identity is part of a wider
syndrome of intellectual dependency precipitated by homegrown
colonialism.
We may ask, where was this "kith and kin across the Niger"
platitude
when our forbears fought the Ekumeku wars of 1883 to 1914,
which pitted them against the British through the instrumentality
of the Royal Niger Company to dominate trade, culture, social
and political lives of our people;
when the Second Division of the Nigerian Army commanded by
Murtala Mohammed marched into Anioma areas in pursuit of the
fleeing 'Biafran Expeditionary Force' and massacred our people
at Asaba and Isheagu with such macabre ruthlessness and
vapidity;
when in 1970 several high ranking Anioma military officers were
detained for months (one of them for years) in Port Harcourt
prison after Biafra surrendered on January 12, 1970, even though
as these officers put it to the writer in their letter to him dated
June 7, 1970, to seek help from Governor Ogbemudia, wrote,
"...that all other officers of former Eastern Region origin (Ibos,
Efiks, Ijaws etc) have been released..." and
when in 1996 our people were assured of support from Ndi Igbo
during our quest for Anioma state?

Anioma state was not created instead Ebonyi was, thanks to the
last minute turn around and support from Ndi Igbo. This
experience was articulated by Professor Ijomah during the
Congress of Izu-Anioma held at the POCO Plaza, Ogwashiuku,
March 3rd, 1998, when he said, "... it was agreed during the last
state creation exercise that Anioma State should be created. When
the stakes were down, the Ibos across the Niger abandoned the
Anioma quest at the last hour and supported the creation of
Ebonyi State which was not seriously being canvassed before
then, causing Anioma to lose." (The ANIOMA, Vol. 10, No 1, May,
1999, p. 11). Anioma people should not be hoodwinked by Ndi
Igbo. Recently, Igbos have renewed their gimmickry of support
for the creation of Anioma state. All they want is their grandiose
illusion of 'Greater Igbo' comprising Anioma and some parts of
Rivers State. Only Anioma can provide us an essential part of our
historical consciousness, and an index to the universal psychic
character of our identity. Only Anioma can communicate a sense
of history to us.

Anioma culture sustains the vocabulary of moral prescriptions
and a repertoire of covenant with visible and invisible entities.
There are areas designated as secular and sacred; some creatures
are deemed sacred and should not be killed nor be eaten; some
vegetation considered sacred should not be eaten as vegetables.
Anioma culture sees unity and sanctity in nature. Philosophically,
it fuses cosmology and cosmogony. It shapes our experiencing
and perceiving. It teaches us the canons of relevance and
evidence. We come to ourselves through our choice of our
archetypes. We have maintained cool-headedness in the face of
provocation from Igbos who call us 'Hausa Igbo', Ika-Igbo and
now Anioma-Igbo. Such appellations are as insulting and
denigrating as they are meaningless and nonsensical.
We reject attempts to Igbonize Anioma. We do not inhabit the
same historical and cultural space with Igbos. When ethnicity
becomes subject to the elaborations of cultural identity politics, it
often develops into a focus of symbolic contestation. Those
wanting Anioma to become "Anioma-Igbo" undermine the efforts
of our founding fathers who christened us "ANIOMA." Osadebay
puts everything in perspective when he stated, "Strictly speaking,
Ibo is a linguistic group or a language, not a tribe, as all Ibo-
speaking people do not claim origin from any common
ancestor" (Osadebay op. cit. 1978, p.14).

Reckless utterances and writings coming from some Igbo people,
through Ohaneze Ndigbo and their internet forum intellectuals,
that the creation of Anioma state would increase Igbo states,
damage Anioma cause. The quest for the creation of Anioma state
preceded the creation of the 36 Nigerian states.
Identity is built on choices and commitments. By committing
ourselves to Anioma causes our real selves develop. An obstacle to
achieving identity is the temptation to avoid choices and
postpone decisions. Let us proclaim Anioma by the Enu Ani
language that we speak; by the Ika language that we speak; by the
Ndokwa language that we speak; by the Olukunmi language that
we speak and by the Igala language that we speak.
We should intensify our efforts on the creation of Anioma state
where our people will be central characters rather than simple bit
players, where the importance of our history lies in its
significance for us rather than for others. We do not want to be a
pawn simply to checkmate the contending and competing
interests of other nationalities in the larger Nigerian collectivity.
Our journey involves more than navigating the geography of
political boundaries. It is a continuous mapping and remapping
of the geography of our culture and identity. We no longer wish
to be objects in the history of others rather we wish to be subjects
of our own history. Our Anioma ethnic identity is cultural self-
definition and philosophical affirmation of our self-
determination as a people who see themselves at the crossroads
of contemporary Nigeria. It is a refusal to accept the
transposition of other people's interpretive categories on Anioma.
We bear the name of Anioma with exalted pride, dignity and
fidelity. We cherish our distinct identity and unique culture. So,
efforts to fit Anioma into the constructs and schemata of Igbo
provenance are futile.



Kunirum Osia is the former Founding National President of
Anioma Association, USA, Inc.

http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2009/may/111.html
so what tribe are we? Please tell me cos I'm an anioma man.

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Duru1(m): 8:58pm On Aug 06, 2015
shachris:


Because
the vast majority of Anioma people speak dialects derived from
the Igbo language, it is assumed that they are "Igbo." Anioma
history records individuals from diverse origins. There are in
Anioma the "Olukunmi" who speak a variant of Yoruba spoken
around Owo. Ebu people in Anioma speak Igala as their mother
tongue.

I guess one wonders why the ignorant assumption of Anioma being Igbo. Did the Olukunmi not pass through Bini on their way to present day habitation? Yet they did not loose their Yari.ba vernacular. Why would the Bini ones suddenly abscond from Edo vernacular? Does it means that so-called migrants from Bini are dumber?

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by coolitempa(f): 8:59pm On Aug 06, 2015
SonOfEl:


keep deceiving yourselves.... my PhD supervisor is proudly Igbo from agbor, delta Igbo will continue to contribute to the IGBONESS of ohaneze ndigbo.....zik of Africa will always be celebrated as Nigeria Igbo nationalist. so sniff Ebola....

U are free to bury ur head in the sand....like an ostrich..... grin......I guess u know better than the king of agbor....ode buruku.... grin

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by SonOfEl(m): 9:05pm On Aug 06, 2015
coolitempa:


U are free to bury ur head in the sand....like an ostrich..... grin......I guess u know better than the king of agbor....ode buruku.... grin

how old is he slowpoke? I guess you know better than all the scholars both home and foreign, as well as the good people of agbor....go check the meaning of the word 'dein', and where it is derived from, after all a tribe's crown head holds originality in language and culture right? mumu forever.

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 9:12pm On Aug 06, 2015
Afam4eva:
Such a hateful article could only have come from the most hateful Anioma man in the person of Kunirum Osia. He is the ring leader in this absurdity and has managed to convince Igboists such as Emeka Esogbue who has in the past few years embraced such brazen idiocy.

Uwuechue wrote this one and their are many examples of such online.

I will like to state that the people of eka and agbor have always guarded their culture with fiercely in the face of all oppositions , we as eka people know where we come from and we are proud of our origin , we have a long history of kingship and culture that is why many people will not let us be , it is not new for a tribe to have two or more ancestory , e. g . take itshekiri , they have both benin and yoruba ancestory , but that does not make them benin or yoruba , today , they are know as itshekiris . but the founding father of their tribe was the a benin prince called iginua , son of oba olua of benin . we as ika people of agbor and owa will not wish to be drawn into stupid arguements with those who do not know our history and who do not know our culture and whose sole arguements rely on nearness of language as a proof of where a people come from , if he is a historian then he or she will know that changes in language can occur due to large migrations or trade or due to other factors .
please can any one tell me what agbor means in igbo language ? going back to history agbor was called ogungunagbon or agbon , which means earth in benin language and the british changed it to agbor in 1906 . ,most eka founders or founders of agbon were benin princes and people from ishan land in ancient times and later other groups of migrants came from igbo land , some from yorubaland e. t. c . it will interest you to note that most of agbor and ika culture and traditions came from benin and edo areas . we call GOD- oselobue , we believe in ehi as our guardian spirit as the benin do, we perfom festivals like igue -new year , ogbanigbe , osi-ezi and ugboze . we dress like binis and maintain same dances like ojerima, okangan and uje like binis . our traditional gods are same as theirs like ovia, uhunmwunde, idigun, olokun e. t. c . we believe our kings are devine beings from the lineage of olokun and oselobue .
our chiefthanct titles are same as benin , iyase, obasogie, obaseki , ihondor , ihama , ezomor , ologbosere et. c .
our towns are divided into ebon (umu), idumu and ogbe ,
in agbor there are two languages spoken ozara and ika , ozara is edoid while ika is a mix of bini and igbo , each town has her history of founding fathers and they are well kept, there are still some titles that if you want to take in some villages today in agbor you must go to benin , where the original founder came from to collect things and receive blessings of approval . it will interest you to note that all ika and agbor kings are benin princes and the present dein of agbor is same royal blood family with the omonoba of benin .
but all these do not make us binis , although in the past we bore benin tribal marks ,but today we are eka people , we are not binis or igbos , but we know where most of our ancestors came from , no proper ika man will want to be refered to as igbo , but properly as ika people . we the ika people share both igbo and bini cultures that is why we still have igbo names like ngozi , okechukwu and the likes , but we still have our benin names too like irabor , obaigbena , ovia, osagie etc. this is our heritage and we are proud of it, looking at my family history of about 800 years i saw all my ancestors were having benin names from omigie, agbontaen, ehiabor, imade, osaigbovou, efeizomor, okundaye , ebie, ogbe, e. t. c , so one day i asked my father why and he told me that our fore-father was the son of a prince from benin,and that our people from our village in idumu-ezomor were children of ezomor the great warrior general from benin who assisted oba esigie of benin to quell the ida war . some times it is good for people to consult natives of a place and ask them of their history , before the write on it. anioma is a big place , i know the igbo language plays a part in anioma history , but not all aniomas migrated from igboland and their are about 11 languages spoken there like ozara, ika, olokumi ( old yoruba), igalla, aboh, etc . that is the reason why no proper ika man will join any group like ohaneze, we have our own group called the ika group ,while we support anioma ,we also believe that those who can trace their ancestory to igboland should join the group, but we will like to say we the agbor and ika people should be left alone as we are a seperate people called ika . i am happy that this is bearing fruit as on delta radio there is now news in ika language as a different languge , ikas have commenced writing the bible in ika language and right now the gospel of mark, luke , mathew and john have been published and we have books on ika languge right now ,during the colonial times our people resisted the celebration of igbo day in ikaland, i want to state that the agbor people even though we have cultural afinities with some of our neighbours like ogwashi, ubulu-uku , asaba , i will like to say we are very different from them ,. we are ika people , we are not binis neither are we igbos . please take note

http://www.edoworld.net/Origin_Of_Delta_Igbo_Indisputable.html

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Mcowubaba: 9:13pm On Aug 06, 2015
asha80:
go and tell those of them that say that they are igbos not me..sometimes you just take this your anti Biafra sentiments too far...all this your divide and rule moves are danm funny
My brother tell him ooh..
I have advised him before....
Eventhough me , I don't support Biafra..but I don't let it ruin my sense of objectiveness nd sanity...
The Op will soon have hypertension over Igbo/Biafra nd Nnamdi Kalu- I wonder whether this 2 issues are the main Issues in his life...it gives him sleepless night..I really pity him sad
Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 9:13pm On Aug 06, 2015
SonOfEl:


how old is he slowpoke? I guess you know better than all the scholars both home and foreign, as well as the good people of agbor....go check the meaning of the word 'dein', and where it is derived from, after all a tribe's crown head holds originality in language and culture right? mumu forever.

Another anioma son wrote this.

I will like to state that the people of eka and agbor have always guarded their culture with fiercely in the face of all oppositions , we as eka people know where we come from and we are proud of our origin , we have a long history of kingship and culture that is why many people will not let us be , it is not new for a tribe to have two or more ancestory , e. g . take itshekiri , they have both benin and yoruba ancestory , but that does not make them benin or yoruba , today , they are know as itshekiris . but the founding father of their tribe was the a benin prince called iginua , son of oba olua of benin . we as ika people of agbor and owa will not wish to be drawn into silly arguements with those who do not know our history and who do not know our culture and whose sole arguements rely on nearness of language as a proof of where a people come from , if he is a historian then he or she will know that changes in language can occur due to large migrations or trade or due to other factors .
please can any one tell me what agbor means in igbo language ? going back to history agbor was called ogungunagbon or agbon , which means earth in benin language and the british changed it to agbor in 1906 . ,most eka founders or founders of agbon were benin princes and people from ishan land in ancient times and later other groups of migrants came from igbo land , some from yorubaland e. t. c . it will interest you to note that most of agbor and ika culture and traditions came from benin and edo areas . we call GOD- oselobue , we believe in ehi as our guardian spirit as the benin do, we perfom festivals like igue -new year , ogbanigbe , osi-ezi and ugboze . we dress like binis and maintain same dances like ojerima, okangan and uje like binis . our traditional gods are same as theirs like ovia, uhunmwunde, idigun, olokun e. t. c . we believe our kings are devine beings from the lineage of olokun and oselobue .
our chiefthanct titles are same as benin , iyase, obasogie, obaseki , ihondor , ihama , ezomor , ologbosere et. c .
our towns are divided into ebon (umu), idumu and ogbe ,
in agbor there are two languages spoken ozara and ika , ozara is edoid while ika is a mix of bini and igbo , each town has her history of founding fathers and they are well kept, there are still some titles that if you want to take in some villages today in agbor you must go to benin , where the original founder came from to collect things and receive blessings of approval . it will interest you to note that all ika and agbor kings are benin princes and the present dein of agbor is same royal blood family with the omonoba of benin .
but all these do not make us binis , although in the past we bore benin tribal marks ,but today we are eka people , we are not binis or igbos , but we know where most of our ancestors came from , no proper ika man will want to be refered to as igbo , but properly as ika people . we the ika people share both igbo and bini cultures that is why we still have igbo names like ngozi , okechukwu and the likes , but we still have our benin names too like irabor , obaigbena , ovia, osagie etc. this is our heritage and we are proud of it, looking at my family history of about 800 years i saw all my ancestors were having benin names from omigie, agbontaen, ehiabor, imade, osaigbovou, efeizomor, okundaye , ebie, ogbe, e. t. c , so one day i asked my father why and he told me that our fore-father was the son of a prince from benin,and that our people from our village in idumu-ezomor were children of ezomor the great warrior general from benin who assisted oba esigie of benin to quell the ida war . some times it is good for people to consult natives of a place and ask them of their history , before the write on it. anioma is a big place , i know the igbo language plays a part in anioma history , but not all aniomas migrated from igboland and their are about 11 languages spoken there like ozara, ika, olokumi ( old yoruba), igalla, aboh, etc . that is the reason why no proper ika man will join any group like ohaneze, we have our own group called the ika group ,while we support anioma ,we also believe that those who can trace their ancestory to igboland should join the group, but we will like to say we the agbor and ika people should be left alone as we are a seperate people called ika . i am happy that this is bearing fruit as on delta radio there is now news in ika language as a different languge , ikas have commenced writing the bible in ika language and right now the gospel of mark, luke , mathew and john have been published and we have books on ika languge right now ,during the colonial times our people resisted the celebration of igbo day in ikaland, i want to state that the agbor people even though we have cultural afinities with some of our neighbours like ogwashi, ubulu-uku , asaba , i will like to say we are very different from them ,. we are ika people , we are not binis neither are we igbos . please take note

http://www.edoworld.net/Origin_Of_Delta_Igbo_Indisputable.html

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 9:15pm On Aug 06, 2015
Mcowubaba:

My brother tell him ooh..
I have advised him before....
Eventhough me , I don't support Biafra..but I don't let it ruin my sense of objectiveness nd sanity...
The Op will soon have hypertension over Igbo/Biafra nd Nnamdi Kalu- I wonder whether this 2 issues are the main Issues in his life...it gives him sleepless night..I really pity him sad

Anioma son wrote this


I will like to state that the people of eka and agbor have always guarded their culture with fiercely in the face of all oppositions , we as eka people know where we come from and we are proud of our origin , we have a long history of kingship and culture that is why many people will not let us be , it is not new for a tribe to have two or more ancestory , e. g . take itshekiri , they have both benin and yoruba ancestory , but that does not make them benin or yoruba , today , they are know as itshekiris . but the founding father of their tribe was the a benin prince called iginua , son of oba olua of benin . we as ika people of agbor and owa will not wish to be drawn into silly arguements with those who do not know our history and who do not know our culture and whose sole arguements rely on nearness of language as a proof of where a people come from , if he is a historian then he or she will know that changes in language can occur due to large migrations or trade or due to other factors .
please can any one tell me what agbor means in igbo language ? going back to history agbor was called ogungunagbon or agbon , which means earth in benin language and the british changed it to agbor in 1906 . ,most eka founders or founders of agbon were benin princes and people from ishan land in ancient times and later other groups of migrants came from igbo land , some from yorubaland e. t. c . it will interest you to note that most of agbor and ika culture and traditions came from benin and edo areas . we call GOD- oselobue , we believe in ehi as our guardian spirit as the benin do, we perfom festivals like igue -new year , ogbanigbe , osi-ezi and ugboze . we dress like binis and maintain same dances like ojerima, okangan and uje like binis . our traditional gods are same as theirs like ovia, uhunmwunde, idigun, olokun e. t. c . we believe our kings are devine beings from the lineage of olokun and oselobue .
our chiefthanct titles are same as benin , iyase, obasogie, obaseki , ihondor , ihama , ezomor , ologbosere et. c .
our towns are divided into ebon (umu), idumu and ogbe ,
in agbor there are two languages spoken ozara and ika , ozara is edoid while ika is a mix of bini and igbo , each town has her history of founding fathers and they are well kept, there are still some titles that if you want to take in some villages today in agbor you must go to benin , where the original founder came from to collect things and receive blessings of approval . it will interest you to note that all ika and agbor kings are benin princes and the present dein of agbor is same royal blood family with the omonoba of benin .
but all these do not make us binis , although in the past we bore benin tribal marks ,but today we are eka people , we are not binis or igbos , but we know where most of our ancestors came from , no proper ika man will want to be refered to as igbo , but properly as ika people . we the ika people share both igbo and bini cultures that is why we still have igbo names like ngozi , okechukwu and the likes , but we still have our benin names too like irabor , obaigbena , ovia, osagie etc. this is our heritage and we are proud of it, looking at my family history of about 800 years i saw all my ancestors were having benin names from omigie, agbontaen, ehiabor, imade, osaigbovou, efeizomor, okundaye , ebie, ogbe, e. t. c , so one day i asked my father why and he told me that our fore-father was the son of a prince from benin,and that our people from our village in idumu-ezomor were children of ezomor the great warrior general from benin who assisted oba esigie of benin to quell the ida war . some times it is good for people to consult natives of a place and ask them of their history , before the write on it. anioma is a big place , i know the igbo language plays a part in anioma history , but not all aniomas migrated from igboland and their are about 11 languages spoken there like ozara, ika, olokumi ( old yoruba), igalla, aboh, etc . that is the reason why no proper ika man will join any group like ohaneze, we have our own group called the ika group ,while we support anioma ,we also believe that those who can trace their ancestory to igboland should join the group, but we will like to say we the agbor and ika people should be left alone as we are a seperate people called ika . i am happy that this is bearing fruit as on delta radio there is now news in ika language as a different languge , ikas have commenced writing the bible in ika language and right now the gospel of mark, luke , mathew and john have been published and we have books on ika languge right now ,during the colonial times our people resisted the celebration of igbo day in ikaland, i want to state that the agbor people even though we have cultural afinities with some of our neighbours like ogwashi, ubulu-uku , asaba , i will like to say we are very different from them ,. we are ika people , we are not binis neither are we igbos . please take note

http://www.edoworld.net/Origin_Of_Delta_Igbo_Indisputable.html

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 9:15pm On Aug 06, 2015
phantom:
Plenty plenty english ......just to dissociate themselves from "the vanquished".

Its all good.Dont worry,we,the "igbos" know there are consequences for loosing a War. We have come to terms with it,so please save your Queens english.

Gbam!!! This is just what it is. Had Biafra won the war or if there was no war will all this crap come up ?? How come nobody denied their Igboness pre-Nigeria civil war years ??
Just to avoid marginalization many denied their roots even when their names state boldly who they are. Off course it was a futile exercise.

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by modhream: 9:17pm On Aug 06, 2015
shachris:

Uwuechue wrote this one and their are many examples of such online.
Uwechue wrote about Ika?.This your idiocy knows no bounds,I tell you. A little bit of education,Clawface.Uwechue was from Ogwashi Uku

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 9:20pm On Aug 06, 2015
modhream:

Uwechue wrote about Ika?.This your idiocy knows no bounds,I tell you.
A little bit of education,Clawface.Uwechue was from Ogwashi Uku

is ogwashi-uku not part of the territory you claim to be igbo?

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by winniz: 9:22pm On Aug 06, 2015
[/s]shachris:


Anioma son wrote this


I will like to state that the people of eka and agbor have always guarded their culture with fiercely in the face of all oppositions , we as eka people know where we come from and we are proud of our origin , we have a long history of kingship and culture that is why many people will not let us be , it is not new for a tribe to have two or more ancestory , e. g . take itshekiri , they have both benin and yoruba ancestory , but that does not make them benin or yoruba , today , they are know as itshekiris . but the founding father of their tribe was the a benin prince called iginua , son of oba olua of benin . we as ika people of agbor and owa will not wish to be drawn into silly arguements with those who do not know our history and who do not know our culture and whose sole arguements rely on nearness of language as a proof of where a people come from , if he is a historian then he or she will know that changes in language can occur due to large migrations or trade or due to other factors .
please can any one tell me what agbor means in igbo language ? going back to history agbor was called ogungunagbon or agbon , which means earth in benin language and the british changed it to agbor in 1906 . ,most eka founders or founders of agbon were benin princes and people from ishan land in ancient times and later other groups of migrants came from igbo land , some from yorubaland e. t. c . it will interest you to note that most of agbor and ika culture and traditions came from benin and edo areas . we call GOD- oselobue , we believe in ehi as our guardian spirit as the benin do, we perfom festivals like igue -new year , ogbanigbe , osi-ezi and ugboze . we dress like binis and maintain same dances like ojerima, okangan and uje like binis . our traditional gods are same as theirs like ovia, uhunmwunde, idigun, olokun e. t. c . we believe our kings are devine beings from the lineage of olokun and oselobue .
our chiefthanct titles are same as benin , iyase, obasogie, obaseki , ihondor , ihama , ezomor , ologbosere et. c .
our towns are divided into ebon (umu), idumu and ogbe ,
in agbor there are two languages spoken ozara and ika , ozara is edoid while ika is a mix of bini and igbo , each town has her history of founding fathers and they are well kept, there are still some titles that if you want to take in some villages today in agbor you must go to benin , where the original founder came from to collect things and receive blessings of approval . it will interest you to note that all ika and agbor kings are benin princes and the present dein of agbor is same royal blood family with the omonoba of benin .
but all these do not make us binis , although in the past we bore benin tribal marks ,but today we are eka people , we are not binis or igbos , but we know where most of our ancestors came from , no proper ika man will want to be refered to as igbo , but properly as ika people . we the ika people share both igbo and bini cultures that is why we still have igbo names like ngozi , okechukwu and the likes , but we still have our benin names too like irabor , obaigbena , ovia, osagie etc. this is our heritage and we are proud of it, looking at my family history of about 800 years i saw all my ancestors were having benin names from omigie, agbontaen, ehiabor, imade, osaigbovou, efeizomor, okundaye , ebie, ogbe, e. t. c , so one day i asked my father why and he told me that our fore-father was the son of a prince from benin,and that our people from our village in idumu-ezomor were children of ezomor the great warrior general from benin who assisted oba esigie of benin to quell the ida war . some times it is good for people to consult natives of a place and ask them of their history , before the write on it. anioma is a big place , i know the igbo language plays a part in anioma history , but not all aniomas migrated from igboland and their are about 11 languages spoken there like ozara, ika, olokumi ( old yoruba), igalla, aboh, etc . that is the reason why no proper ika man will join any group like ohaneze, we have our own group called the ika group ,while we support anioma ,we also believe that those who can trace their ancestory to igboland should join the group, but we will like to say we the agbor and ika people should be left alone as we are a seperate people called ika . i am happy that this is bearing fruit as on delta radio there is now news in ika language as a different languge , ikas have commenced writing the bible in ika language and right now the gospel of mark, luke , mathew and john have been published and we have books on ika languge right now ,during the colonial times our people resisted the celebration of igbo day in ikaland, i want to state that the agbor people even though we have cultural afinities with some of our neighbours like ogwashi, ubulu-uku , asaba , i will like to say we are very different from them ,. we are ika people , we are not binis neither are we igbos . please take note

http://www.edoworld.net/Origin_Of_Delta_Igbo_Indisputable.html[s]

Divide and rule don't work amongst Igbos anymore. Well no one take you retardd serious anymore, you are just a frustrated bastardd.

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by winniz: 9:23pm On Aug 06, 2015
[/s]shachris:


is ogwashi-uku not part of the territory you claim to be igbo? [s]

Continue fooling yourself this pay per post Ogwashi-uku is an Igbo territory.
Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by modhream: 9:27pm On Aug 06, 2015
shachris:


is ogwashi-uku not part of the territory you claim to be igbo?
Erm..nodcock.Said Uwechue was the immediate past President of Ohaneze Ndigbo,for two consecutive terms

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 9:42pm On Aug 06, 2015
jmoore:
Anioma are Chinese people.

Onye ara!!!!

Take this below

hahahhabahahahaja

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 9:47pm On Aug 06, 2015
shachris:


The oral history of the people regards the Ikelike people who migrated from Benin as the first settlers on the land which is today called Asaba. There was Ugboma often regarded as the second settler migrant from Achata in Awka District he settled in Obodo Achala still in existence today but due to ceaseless wars which took place many of these settlers resettled in Achala-Igbuzo, Okpanam and Kwala where they can still be found today. Ugboma was the second settler.



Anyanwu, the most important settler and a great builder of Asaba is recognized for making the city what it is today. He arrived from Obosi. His father was said to be one of the retreating members of Chime family escaping from the wrought of Oba of Benin. Anyanwu settled in a place close to Ugboma and bare a son named Odikpe the founder of today’s Idumu Odikpe in the town.

http://www.ibusa.net/asaba-delta%20state.htm


Mumu. Here in nnewi. My ancestors say they migrate from elsewhere. . Na im be say i from Israel
Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Nobody: 9:59pm On Aug 06, 2015
patmaine:



Mumu. Here in nnewi. My ancestors say they migrate from elsewhere. . Na im be say i from Israel

zombie, na im be say you no know your origin.

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Mcowubaba: 10:05pm On Aug 06, 2015
shachris:


Anioma son wrote this


I will like to state that the people of eka and agbor have always guarded their culture with fiercely in the face of all oppositions , we as eka people know where we come from and we are proud of our origin , we have a long history of kingship and culture that is why many people will not let us be , it is not new for a tribe to have two or more ancestory , e. g . take itshekiri , they have both benin and yoruba ancestory , but that does not make them benin or yoruba , today , they are know as itshekiris . but the founding father of their tribe was the a benin prince called iginua , son of oba olua of benin . we as ika people of agbor and owa will not wish to be drawn into silly arguements with those who do not know our history and who do not know our culture and whose sole arguements rely on nearness of language as a proof of where a people come from , if he is a historian then he or she will know that changes in language can occur due to large migrations or trade or due to other factors .
please can any one tell me what agbor means in igbo language ? going back to history agbor was called ogungunagbon or agbon , which means earth in benin language and the british changed it to agbor in 1906 . ,most eka founders or founders of agbon were benin princes and people from ishan land in ancient times and later other groups of migrants came from igbo land , some from yorubaland e. t. c . it will interest you to note that most of agbor and ika culture and traditions came from benin and edo areas . we call GOD- oselobue , we believe in ehi as our guardian spirit as the benin do, we perfom festivals like igue -new year , ogbanigbe , osi-ezi and ugboze . we dress like binis and maintain same dances like ojerima, okangan and uje like binis . our traditional gods are same as theirs like ovia, uhunmwunde, idigun, olokun e. t. c . we believe our kings are devine beings from the lineage of olokun and oselobue .
our chiefthanct titles are same as benin , iyase, obasogie, obaseki , ihondor , ihama , ezomor , ologbosere et. c .
our towns are divided into ebon (umu), idumu and ogbe ,
in agbor there are two languages spoken ozara and ika , ozara is edoid while ika is a mix of bini and igbo , each town has her history of founding fathers and they are well kept, there are still some titles that if you want to take in some villages today in agbor you must go to benin , where the original founder came from to collect things and receive blessings of approval . it will interest you to note that all ika and agbor kings are benin princes and the present dein of agbor is same royal blood family with the omonoba of benin .
but all these do not make us binis , although in the past we bore benin tribal marks ,but today we are eka people , we are not binis or igbos , but we know where most of our ancestors came from , no proper ika man will want to be refered to as igbo , but properly as ika people . we the ika people share both igbo and bini cultures that is why we still have igbo names like ngozi , okechukwu and the likes , but we still have our benin names too like irabor , obaigbena , ovia, osagie etc. this is our heritage and we are proud of it, looking at my family history of about 800 years i saw all my ancestors were having benin names from omigie, agbontaen, ehiabor, imade, osaigbovou, efeizomor, okundaye , ebie, ogbe, e. t. c , so one day i asked my father why and he told me that our fore-father was the son of a prince from benin,and that our people from our village in idumu-ezomor were children of ezomor the great warrior general from benin who assisted oba esigie of benin to quell the ida war . some times it is good for people to consult natives of a place and ask them of their history , before the write on it. anioma is a big place , i know the igbo language plays a part in anioma history , but not all aniomas migrated from igboland and their are about 11 languages spoken there like ozara, ika, olokumi ( old yoruba), igalla, aboh, etc . that is the reason why no proper ika man will join any group like ohaneze, we have our own group called the ika group ,while we support anioma ,we also believe that those who can trace their ancestory to igboland should join the group, but we will like to say we the agbor and ika people should be left alone as we are a seperate people called ika . i am happy that this is bearing fruit as on delta radio there is now news in ika language as a different languge , ikas have commenced writing the bible in ika language and right now the gospel of mark, luke , mathew and john have been published and we have books on ika languge right now ,during the colonial times our people resisted the celebration of igbo day in ikaland, i want to state that the agbor people even though we have cultural afinities with some of our neighbours like ogwashi, ubulu-uku , asaba , i will like to say we are very different from them ,. we are ika people , we are not binis neither are we igbos . please take note

http://www.edoworld.net/Origin_Of_Delta_Igbo_Indisputable.html
Are u a robot..
Mak seun com do u Captcha test oo
The highest delusion in this world will be you thinking -that I read that long thrash u copied nd posted..
I know ur antecedents already!!!!
Don't hurt urself bro, engage in some fun filled activities, go for comedy shows nd music concerts..it will help you a lot ..u need peace nd joy in ur life..
U are a bitter nd troubled fellow....u trouble urself too much about Igbo/radio biafra nd who is Igbo nd who is not cheesy....
Unless you are getting paid from doing this...if not you be big time jonser nd jobless dude cheesy..
Don't take life too serious bro...Igbo this! Anioma this! Ikwerre that!!...haba ..I hope u sleep @ night

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by onenaira3: 11:08pm On Aug 06, 2015
PedroJP:
Shachris confirmed ofe mmanu.

The illiterate, shachris, is non other than nduchunks the aaaboki slowpoke.

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by onenaira3: 11:10pm On Aug 06, 2015
melzabull:
this accursed bastad again? lmao.

Some people are just hopeless. everyday this bastad creates one useless thread or the other trying to incite Igbos against themselves. OK shacfool I have heard you, I am not Igbo I am Arab.

Chineke bi na enu igwe kpo kwa gi oku. Ekwensu!

My Anioma brothers come and listen to this ewu'o.

onenaira3, fr3do, ELTON123, menabadoo, amagmilton etc lmao

When I have the time, I'll deal with that northern attache by force badtard. Right now I'm at work but when I get a free time, best believe that illiterate will regret opening this thread

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Ritchiee: 11:47pm On Aug 06, 2015
Mckennedy:

and what will you say about egun and Aworis whose languages are quite different from yolobas?
Awori was,is and would always be Yoruba...what the...

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Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Pchidexy(m): 12:07am On Aug 07, 2015
The op is a bastard from a thousand fathers. Ewu Benin. Pls leave Anioma matter for Aniomas. Oloshi! Werey! Bastard! You go soon die!
Re: Anioma/Asaba People Are Not Igbo by Mckennedy: 1:54am On Aug 07, 2015
Ritchiee:
Awori was,is and would always be Yoruba...what the...

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