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| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 4:20pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
mcchaka:ibo need to wage war. because, biafra riot is just a civil disorder. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 4:23pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
pazienza:Sorry, they were stooges. Ojukwu still retained the right to hire and fire them at will. Afterall, he appointed them. Secondly, Ojukwu was NOT against secession. He rejected all calls for a resolution of the problem, and insisted on going ahead with the war. Your link has just opened up and I read the source . But going further down, there are a lot of instructive comments made by other scholars in that article. Kindly see one of those comments below: Within the East, prior to secession and afterwards, there was no free expression of opinion by the minority groups, and Biafra was created without any democratic consultation of the minorities. Hand-picked “representatives” voted for secession or were locked up in Enugu...This report in your link, totally contradicts your position that Ojukwu was against secession. even those who served in his cabinet like Uwechue, were aware of Ojukwu's plans. If he was against secession like you claim, why were those who expressed their dislike of secession, locked up under Ojukwu's regime? Finally, Uwechue never hid his feelings about how the war was prosecuted. Kindly read his comments below: Said a former Secretary in the Biafra Government, Raph Uwechue, "It is sad but instructive irony that Lieutenant Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu, one of Africa's one‐time most brilliant political promises, was the man that led his own people with such a lack of ingenuity into what was clearly a foreseeable disaster." The tragedy was built on Ojukwu's inflexibility and the resultant inability to effect compromise on the political side. He fueled the disaster with his ambition, desire and ability to control the situation in Biafra. Ojukwu was fighting a war within the Civil War, as he struggled to keep and consolidate his position of leadership. And the tragedy was prolonged and insured by the divisive actions Ojukwu used to maintain his position of power. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 4:28pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
PassingShot:no person will eat human flesh and be able to think in right direction. They realy depend on yorubas to win that biafa riot they call war. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 4:33pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
![]() Cjrane2:this their red cap is alwaye funny to me, so na the cap wa them go use rule us be that. ![]() Cjrane2:this their red cap is alwaye funny to me, so na the cap wa them go use rule us be that. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 4:34pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
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| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 4:40pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
laudate:The comment you quoted was exactly the accusations against Biafra that were demolished and the guy you quoted above had no replies for the knock out blows Mr Diamond provided as rebuttals, which I had already highlighted on this thread before. Lol! It was an earlier comment that was so met with hard facts that the dude making the points ran away with his tail between his legs, Why are you stooping this low as to suggest that comment was made at the end of that review, when you know it was made at the beginning and was soundly dealth with. Just how deep is treachery embedded in the Yoruba DNA? of all the accusations against Biafra by the Nigerian side of killing the minorities, non had any evidence to back it up, nor could they be substantiated, No family members of the alleged people murdered by Biafra was found, no names of the Biafra unit or their commanding officer responsibile for that was found,nothing ! just another Odua-Arewa propaganda. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 4:41pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
chuna1985:you need job. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by Nobody: 4:49pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 4:56pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
Isn't it Ironic that the people who massacred Easterners while shouting "Araba" ( division/secession) are same people accusing Ojukwu of championing secession. The plan was to massacre as many Easterners as possible and then declare Odua-Arewa republic, even Ojukwu pleaded with Ndiigbo after the first massacre to go back to the North, after northern leaders gave Ojukwu assurance of their safety, yet the demons hell bent on taking as much pound of flesh before doing Araba( Secession) still went on a second round of massacre. Only to start singing "one Nigeria" the moment they learnt of the potentials of the Eastern oil wealth. Ndi ara! |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by BermudaTriangle(m): 5:13pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
chuna1985:At what location did Ojukwu met Yoruba congress ? Ojukwu never left the east for anywhere after Aburi until he flee as a cowardly clown. You ibos like to make up lies to thwart history in order to bouy yourselves up for nothing. Your version is a new lie never heard before. The latest of your lies is the title of this thread. If ibos did not surrender, then it means they were conquered. But what was the content of the document of surrender ? Col Achuzia is about to depart to the great beyond and has to drop a lie like Achebe to create further controversies. Igbos are a nation of lie fabricators. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 5:14pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
chuna1985:wha is yoruba congress. These ibo can lie, the same way they claim ploting war with awolowo who was in prison,who did not know when ojuku start his riot called biafra. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 5:16pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 5:21pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
Mckennedy:when you fall, you will leave the place. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 5:28pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
chuna1985:am not a trader ican't sell otapiapia at ariara market. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by ISpiksDaTroof: 6:05pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
Even at the point of death this old man couldn't refrain from telling lies. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by zendy: 9:23pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
debetmx:Nigeria was a fraud when it was created in 1914 is and has remained so to this day. By the way, Hilary Njoku may have been Ojukwus senior but Ojukwu never locked him up in jail, he was kept under house arrest in his village. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 10:09pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
pazienza:In Diamond's rebuttals he did not allege that the section pertaining to 'secession' which I quoted, was false. Diamond's response to the scholars touched on other areas, and his response was highly defensive as he only sought to justify his own perspective on the war. You are the only one who saw that he 'demolished' their statements. Others like me, do not share that view. Diamond's responses sounded as if he was a mouthpiece of the Eastern regional government or Ojukwu's cabinet. It lacked intellectual rigour, was heavily one-sided and did not reflect the perspective of non-Igbo minorities in Biafra, which was part of the reasons why the scholars took him to task. The issue about crimes committed against non-Igbo by Biafra soldiers was suppressed by the Gowon administration, in the light of its "No Victor, No vanquished" programme, because it wanted the wounds of the war to heal. For example, Justice Ighodaro's panel set up to examine the treatment meted out to non-Igbo civilians in the old Mid-West during the Biafran invasion, had its report quashed by Brig-Gen. Samuel Ogbemudia the former Military Governor of the region who felt it could rekindle resentment against the Igbo civilians in that area, after the war. What those scholars merely did with respect to Diamond's book, was simply to review his work. The scholars were Norman Thomas Uphoff, Department of Political Science, University of California, Berkeley USA; Sara S. Berry of Bloomington, Indiana, and George A. Elbert of New York City. The reason why the 3 scholars who critiqued Diamond's book did not respond to his defensive comments, is not reported, so jumping to conclusions as you have done, is not advisable. Diamond's book cannot be taken as the sole authority on the civil war, as many scholars both abroad and locally, have written on it and all their works must be read in proper context. Gen. Yakubu Gowon on his own part, gave reasons as to why a plebiscite was not feasible. Kindly see the excerpts from his speech. Speech by Major-General Yakubu Gowon Declaring a Twelve State Structure for Nigeria – May 1967 - |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 10:24pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
pazienza:Unfortunately for you, I am NOT Yoruba! Read my comment again! I did not say it was made at the end. What I said was "going further down....". Does this mean it was made at the end?? I used this phrase because the section I quoted came after the first 2 scholars had made their submission, and the page opened in a different tab, thus splitting it into 2 parts. Kindly note that the review came after the book had been published, and not before! Secondly, I did not see Diamond's response initially as the page did not open up in a single view, until much later on my browser. By then, my response to your earlier comment has been submitted. ![]() You can split all the hairs you want about this issue. To tell the truth, your revisionist attempts are really quite amusing. ![]() |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by Duru1(m): 10:41pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
laudate:The bolded would have inform you to check the veracity of sources and even the mental balance of the author before making fool of yourself in the public. It is safe to say that Raph Uwechue was never a secretary in the Biafran government. The man could have been in position other than what you want us to believe. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 10:54pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
Ayus34:There is no need to be hostile. We are all having a civilised discussion, here. I do wish the Yoruba intellectuals would come on board to respond to all these comments being made by the biafran 'side'. ![]() Kindly read this execrpt from another article: ....... Also, the records indicate that after the 1959 elections, Awolowo conceded the office of prime minister to Azikiwe, which he strangely rejected, preferring “the ornamental post of governor”.Can someone please translate the statement made in Yoruba at the end of this article?? Am curious to know what it means in a literal sense. ![]() |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 10:56pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
zendy:Interesting! Why was he locked up in the first place? And why was Madiebo appointed in his stead? ![]() |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 11:46pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
Duru1:Why the name calling? I was not the originator of the comment that Uwechue was a secretary in the Biafran cabinet. The source where that statement was made, was clearly cited in my last post. Another source claims that Ralph Uwechue was the Biafra Representative in France. http://www./Biafra%20facts%201967.htm However, what is obvious is that Ralph Uwechue played key roles in Biafra, and interacted with Ojukwu at close quarters. Apart from this, the comment that Uwechue made about Ojukwu, was lifted from his own book titled "Reflections on the Nigerian Civil War: Facing the Future": a 244 page paperback published by Trafford Publishing, which was quoted directly by the author. It is available on Amazon. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by zendy: 6:52am On Aug 08, 2015 |
laudate:When Biafra was declared, Ojukwu appointed as Biafran Army Boss. However, soon after this, friction started between Ojukwu and Njoku over what Njkoku believed to be Ojukwus "high-handedness". Njoku and Ojukwu simply did not get along. Njkoku resigned, however, in the military, it can be an act of treason for a military officer to resign an appointment without authorisation. Ojukwu then ordered Njoku's house arrest where Njoku stayed until the end of the war. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 7:38am On Aug 08, 2015 |
laudate:This is really a very poor showing from you. I was expecting better. You mean Gowon expected Biafra to allow Nigeria free usage of her oil wealth, airlines, railways? Gowon is a not serious. Gowon continually accused Biafrans of killing the minorities, but we all knew who shot at anything that moved near PH, minority dominated areas. Neither Gowon or NA could provide the names of the Biafrans unit, their commanders or even survivals/ relatives of the so called Biafra massacre of Eastern minorities, even when Nigerians are more equipped to do that. Biafra that was less equipped could provide names of the Nigerian Army unit, their commanders and the surviving victims/ relatives of dead victims of Nigerian genocide on Biafra. Diamond provided raw facts, Norman and Sara are not Nigerians with "I no go lose" altitude, they know when the bow to superior arguments. Diamond countered all Norman and Sara lies, which I am sure they must have gotten from the Odua-Arewa propaganda machine. No crime by the Biafrans against non Igbos, atleast no organized crime, if it ever happened, then it must be of individual soldiers and not as a central policy of Biafra, that is why Nigeria has no name of the commanding Biafran officer or unit involved in the phantom Biafran crime, as was the case with Nigeria, where genocide against Ndiigbo was a national policy broadcasted in the radio stations in the North and all over the country. Ogbemudia is just a regular Nigerian, allergic to the truth, he is not clean and was probably covering his own ass. The real victims of genocides want the issue revisited. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 7:45am On Aug 08, 2015 |
"Let us go and crush them. We will pillage their
property, violation their womenfolk, kill off their
menfolk and leave them uselessly weeping. We will
complete the pogrom of 1966" (The theme song of
Radio Kaduna, government-controlled, 1967-1970)
. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 7:50am On Aug 08, 2015 |
[b] "Federal troops, killed, or stood by while mobs
killed, more than 5000 Ibos in Warri, Sapele,
Agbor, "New York Times, 10th January, 1968.
"It’s (mass starvation) is a legitimate aspect of
war, " Anthony Enahoro, Nigerian Commissioner
for Information at a press conference in (New
York, July 1968)
"Starvation is a legitimate weapon of war, and we
have every intention of using it against the rebels,
"Mr Alison Ayida, Head of Nigerian Delegation,
Niamey Peace Talks, Republic of Niger, July 1968)
"
The Igbos must be considerably reduced in
number" (Lagos Policeman quoted in New York
Review, 21 December, 1967)
''One word now describes the policy of the
Nigerian military government towards secessionist
Biafra: genocide. It is ugly and extreme but it is
the only word which fits Nigeria's decision to stop
the International Committee of the red Cross, and
other relief agencies, from flying food to Biafra"
Washington Post (editorial) July 2, 1969). [/b] |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 7:54am On Aug 08, 2015 |
[b] ''In some areas outside the East, Igbos were killed by local people with at least the acquiescence of the federal forces, 1000 Igbo civilians perished in Benin in this way"- (Max Edward - Reporter on the ground-New York Review, 21 December 1967). ''After federal forces take over of Benin, troops killed about 500 Igbo civilians after a house-to- house search with the aid of willing locals" (Washington Morning Post, 27 September, 1967). "The greatest single massacre occurred in the Igbo town of Asaba where 700 Igbo male were lined up and shot as terrified women/children were forced to watch" (London Observer, 21 January, 1968) "Federal troops, killed, or stood by while mobs killed, more than 5000 Ibos in Wari, Sapele, Agbor" (New York Times, 10th January, 1968). "There has been genocide on the occasion of the 1966 massacres, the region between the towns of Benin and Asaba where only widows and orphans remain, federal troops having, for unknown reasons, massacred all the men" - (Paris Le Monde, 5th April, 1968). [/b] Perhaps, we now see why some people from that side of Igboland are currently having identity crisis. The word Igbo became synonymous to death to them in that era. They( Nigerians psychologically molested these people). Their parents out of survival instinct, ingrained it in them to chose life instead of death( Igbo). |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 7:59am On Aug 08, 2015 |
[b] "In Calabar, federal forces shot at least 1000 and
perhaps 2000 Igbos, most of them civilians" (New
York Times, 18th January, 1968).
"Bestialities and indignities of all kinds were
visited on Biafrans in 1966. In Ikeja Barracks
(Western Nigeria) Biafrans were forcibly fed on a
mixture of human urine and faeces. In Northern
Nigeria numerous Biafran house-wives and
nursing mothers were violated before their
husbands and children. Young girls were abducted
from their homes, working places and schools and
forced into intimate intercourse with sick,
demented and leprous men'' (Mr. Eric Spiff
(German War correspondence Eyewitness, 1967).
"There has been genocide, for example on the
occasion of the 1966 massacres , Two areas have
suffered badly [from the fighting]. Firstly the
region between the towns of Benin and Asaba
where only widows and orphans remain, Federal
troops having for unknown reasons massacred all
the men.
According to eyewitnesses of that massacre the
Nigerian commander ordered the execution of
every Ibo male over the age of ten
years" (Monsignor Georges, sent down on a fact-
finding mission by His holiness the Pope reporting
his finding in Vatican Rome, Le Monde, French
Evening newspaper, April 5, 1968). [/b] |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 8:03am On Aug 08, 2015 |
"One word now describes the policy of the
Nigerian military government towards Biafra:-
genocide. It is ugly and extreme but it is the only
word which fits Nigeria's decision to stop the
International Committee of the red Cross, and
other relief agencies, from flying food to Biafra".
The Nazis had ressurrected just here as Nigerian
forces, Washington Post (editorial) July 2, 1969 |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 8:05am On Aug 08, 2015 |
"Unfortunately this [Gowon's] enlightenment at the
top level does not penetrate very deep: a Lagos
police officer was quoted last month as saying
that the Igbos must be considerably reduced in
number" Dr Conor cruise O'Bien , 21 December
1967 New York Review.
"Myself and The same UNICEF representatives
went on to convey something of what lay behind
this intransigence: "Among the large majority
hailing from that tribe who are most vocal in
inciting the complete extermination of the Igbos, I
often heard remarks that all Nigeria's ills will be
cured once the Igbos has been extaminated from
the human map , " Dr Conor Cruise O'Bien (21
December, 1967, New York Review). - Onyema
Uche.(Washington, Distric of Columbia), USA. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 11:02am On Aug 08, 2015*. Modified: 11:57am On Aug 08, 2015 |
pazienza:And this is really a pathetic showing from you! Why am I not surprised? You have the same mentality that was prevalent in the old Biafra - the type that refuses to see the truth, even when it hits them in the face. Initially, you claimed there was no crime against the non-Igbos. Later you said there "was no organised crime." And then you grasped at straws, claiming 'if if it ever happened, then it must be of individual soldiers..." What contradiction! So why was the Justice Ighodaro panel set up in the old Mid-West and why did Ogbemudia bury the report of the commission? Was there a crime or not? No one is asking if it was 'organised,' or not! Ogbemudia's father had Ika blood and his wife was Igbo. Some people have claimed that he felt it would incriminate the kinsmen of his extended family. So he used the Gowon admonition of "No Victor, No Vanquished" to suppress that report. That was why the report did not see the light of day. Period. You claim Dimond produced raw facts. Oh, I agree that he produced a bunch of one-sided 'facts', that were heavily biased and skewed. The scholars called him out on it. But you have refused to see that. You only see things that don't exist. Like when you alleged I was Yoruba. I had to laugh out loud, when I read that one. ![]() You claim the scholars bowed to superior argument. You like falsehood and relish in fake assumptions, sha! The scholars I mentioned did not publish any lie. Even Diamond himself did NOT accuse them of lying. If they had lied, you can be sure that Diamond or his publishers would have either sued them or have made mention of that fact. You are the one claiming they lied. How sad. Keep on twisting the truth to suit your warped view. ![]() Finally, you said: "You mean Gowon expected Biafra to allow Nigeria free usage of her oil wealth, airlines, railways? Gowon is a not serious." Haba! I had to leave this part for the last, because this comment was too hilarious. In 1967, the airline and railways was being run with money jointly contributed from the taxes of all the regions, not just the East. Was it Ojukwu that set up the Nigeria Airways or the Nigerian railways? Go back into history. Both institutions were set up by the British govt with wealth contributed by ALL the regions of Nigeria, not just the East. The Nigerian Railway Corporation was established in 1898, when the first railroad in Nigeria was constructed by the British colonial government. On October 3, 1912 the Lagos Government Railway and the Baro-Kano Railway were amalgamated, starting nationwide rail service under the name Government Department of Railways. With the passing of the Nigerian Railway Corporation Act of 1955, the company's name was changed as well as the exclusive legal right to construct and operate rail service in Nigeria. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Railway_CorporationNigeria Airways on the other hand, actually started in Kano. In 1935, the operations of the RAF were replaced by those of the Imperial Airways that flew regular airmail and passengers from London to Nigeria. These services thus pioneered commercial international operations in Nigeria, although it was not until 1936 that commercial aviation actually came to Nigeria. The Imperial Airways, the forerunner of the British Overseas Airways Corporation (BOAC), operated large four-engined aeroplanes, known as the Hannibal class or the Handley, on the Nile route from Cairo to Kisumu, Uganda. Towards the end of 1936, a once-weekly service was introduced and another route, Khartoum–Kano–Lagos, flight, which took seven days, was operated with a relatively small four-engined aircraft De Havilland 86 (one of the DH 86's well-known passengers was Sir Bernard Bourdillon, who flew on the first ever commercial flight from Lagos).... In August 1958 the Nigerian government in partnership with BOAC and Elder Dempster lines formed the West African Airways Corporation (Nigeria)Limited WAAC (which would later metamorphose into today's Nigeria Airways). This single, historic move heralded the genesis of the airline industry in Nigeria. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Airports_Authority_of_NigeriaSo why would a man solely commandeer something that was jointly built with the wealth of others, and not just his own? Did he pay the rest of the other Nigerian regions for the money they contributed in setting up the airways and railways? There is a name for that kind of behaviour. I will leave others to fill in the blanks. ![]() |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by oduastates: 11:07am On Aug 08, 2015 |
laudate:Thanks for whooping his azz with his own link |
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