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Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by socialmediaman: 12:16pm On Aug 08, 2015
InglishTeechar:
So you mean Fashola now owns a bank...APC are just full of dullards.
I'm glad you've learned something today. I'm waiting for his statement though, I won't think Ill towards a governor who trends as a performing governor by his state residents until the allegation is proven. This same benefit of doubt would be accorded to Peter Obi and Kwankwasor.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by socialmediaman: 12:19pm On Aug 08, 2015
InglishTeechar:
The project description states 'upgrade' of website, meaning the website already exist, so are you telling me that he intend to use tax payers money to finance a personal project?...because the last time I checked the name of the website is www.tundefashola.com and not Lagos state government. Haba receive sense in Jesus name
Let's wait till he issues a statement. Thanks for your bringing this to public notice so we can clarify issues and rid this country of corruption
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by socialmediaman: 12:24pm On Aug 08, 2015
Happiness87:
which you know as long as he's in APC he will never be found guilty, hahaha
I don't know that. The law ideally is blind, but he's genuinely respected among Lagosians for his achievements and inclusive governance so I guess lots of people will be heartbroken to see it end this way.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 12:38pm On Aug 08, 2015
realborn:
I'm disappointed at Fashola if this allegation is true. It looks like a dash to political allies.

He should have kept his coded looting within bigger contracts as it has always been the case. Extending same to baseless awards like "Post Handover Personal Website Upgrade" at N78m is ludicrous and stinks of greed.

I pray he his able to defend this corrupt gaffe. Otherwise, he should lead the covert plea bargaining process by returning every penny with fiduciary interest back to Lagos's purse through the phony company.

On repentance, he is still one of my favorites to someday lead Nigeria - Duke, Fashola & El Rufai!
[color=#27408B]Really? undecided[/color]
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by shegsrules(m): 12:41pm On Aug 08, 2015
mrtimycc:
How old are you?
Older than u, at least ur pic has shown how old u are.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Happiness87(f): 12:48pm On Aug 08, 2015
socialmediaman:
I don't know that. The law ideally is blind, but he's genuinely respected among Lagosians for his achievements and inclusive governance so I guess lots of people will be heartbroken to see it end this way.
no true, just that they are too busy waking up by 4am to get to office by 7. 30am and return home by 9pm. They don't have time to pay attention to details,

a state with 200bn IGR, if 50bn is used judiciously for projects, you can steal 150bn and they will not notice.

that is what is happening in Lagos, similar in Akwa Ibom, Rivers and kano grin
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by mrtimycc(m): 12:51pm On Aug 08, 2015
shegsrules:
Older than u, at least ur pic has shown how old u are.
Still sounding like a 5 year old
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by socialmediaman: 12:58pm On Aug 08, 2015
Bgino:
My dear SOCIALMEDIAMAN i beg to differ with ur opinion on this..in ur great epistle on the 17th of july titled OUR CRIMINAL POLITICIANS MUST RETURN OUR MONEY u made a clarion call in the nineth paragraph urging Nigerians to avoid ethnic sentiments beclouding our sense of judgement in issues regarding the recoveries of our stolen monies..if u fail to condemn Fasholas fiscal and financial reclessnes in the award of contracts during his tenure..then the share in the general evil is certainly yours..The likes of Fashola and Amechi and many state governors have blundered the resources of Nigeria over the past decade with impunity without prosecution..78million for a website development...? Haba bros
Thanks for reminding me of my stand on issues. I still maintain my stand on that and like I stated, Fashola is one of the governor's I admire, just like Peter Obi, because their state residents have widely proclaimed their stewardship. For these 2 governors and few others, I would like to give them benefit of doubt before judgement. But for persons known to have achieved little within their capacities, this will not hold, irrespective of political affiliation.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by socialmediaman: 1:03pm On Aug 08, 2015
Happiness87:
no true, just that they are too busy waking up by 4am to get to office by 7. 30am and return home by 9pm. They don't have time to pay attention to details,

a state with 200bn IGR, if 50bn is used judiciously for projects, you can steal 150bn and they will not notice.

that is what is happening in Lagos, similar in Akwa Ibom, Rivers and kano grin
Well if you see it that way, then you might as well say that's what happens everywhere in the world. As long as roads are good, traffic laws against traffic and other crimes are enforced on the streets, Justice is available, jobs are available, people can get good education and healthcare etc, they don't really care what goes on in government house except it generates media attention like this one
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 1:10pm On Aug 08, 2015
socialmediaman:
Read this before you conclude:

I am not here to find Fashola innocent or guilty or hold a brief for him. I do not have the details of the contract so i would wait for a statement from Fashola before drawing my conclusions. Fashola is definitely not crazy to award a contract of 78 million for just a website upgrade. There could be more to it, let's give him some benefit of doubt

If you're knowledgable about websites, you'll know that a contract like this would involve much more than the website itself, like:

Development of custom school management software (ERP system)

Development of taxi service management system ( example Uber)

Development of other custom software management systems for the Fashola projects

If that's the case, then This is no biggie, it's worth the amount, but I am not holding brief for Fashola on this as I do not have details of the said contract award, when he releases a statement, I'll do my own personal assessment about it. We're in an Information Age though, his bad. But for now, I'll say innocent until proven guilty.
While you are in the act of governance, your spending should reflect your earnings and the socioeconomic environment at that time. 78million for a website upgrade by a public servant for his personal website is a colossal amount of money and I can't see how to justify it. If he is a business man, it wouldn't have been a scandal.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by nedby: 1:12pm On Aug 08, 2015
Fashola is not a saint ,but I doubt. If wat is on ground is real,were are the fact at least the bank transcations,the award letter.we shld verify fact before we comment on any issue.a man character cld be on the line here.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by aresa: 1:36pm On Aug 08, 2015
mykl01:
While you are in the act of governance, your spending should reflect your earnings and the socioeconomic environment at that time. 78million for a website upgrade by a public servant for his personal website is a colossal amount of money and I can't see how to justify it. If he is a business man, it wouldn't have been a scandal.
1. Personal or not, you have no clue per the content of former state's executive's retirement package so you can not reach any kind of conclusion per any wrongdoing. Even his prewdecessor has something similar and obviously done by the same vendor.

We are talking about legislated budget instituted by a constitutionally legislated government agency.


2. The agency in charge did not hide the project, it's intent or the amount. It's right there fully disclosed for the public to see.

When people commit illegal acts or wrong doing, they hide it away from the public including you.

3. The state procurement agency awarded the contract and you can not tell me you know terms of the contract, what it includes or doesn't.

4. With all the millions of ways available to steal billions and get away with it, is awarding a 78 million naira website contract and disclosing it on a public website for everybody to see the best and smartest way to steal..?

This is nothing but a pointless hysteria over nothing..
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by doncaster(m): 1:43pm On Aug 08, 2015
Which of the pedestrian bridge along Lekki-ajah express was constructed with 1billion plus?
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 1:49pm On Aug 08, 2015
cabaliciouscabal:
it is u dat should shut ur stinking mouth, d guy was only trying to analyze d mode dat surround d contract, and he seems to know more abt d job dan u, u claim to be educated but ur line of discussion doubts Weda u actually went to school, u didn't educate us on y u think d amount should not be up to dat , instead u ar speaking British Ghetto Grammer , U PDP apologists ar only Wailing, Fashola will definitely get appointment in dis government, and if u ar not happy after it has appened, I personally advice u all to follow Oba Akiolu's Theory. Foool
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by nku5: 1:50pm On Aug 08, 2015
aresa:
1. Personal or not, you have no clue per the content of former state's executive's retirement package so you can not reach any kind of conclusion per any wrongdoing. Even his prewdecessor has something similar and obviously done by the same vendor.

We are talking about legislated budget instituted by a constitutionally legislated government agency.


2. The agency in charge did not hide the project, it's intent or the amount. It's right there fully disclosed for the public to see.

When people commit illegal acts or wrong doing, they hide it away from the public including you.

3. The state procurement agency awarded the contract and you can not tell me you know terms of the contract, what it includes or doesn't.

4. With all the millions of ways available to steal billions and get away with it, is awarding a 78 million naira website contract and disclosing it on a public website for everybody to see the best and smartest way to steal..?

This is nothing but a pointless hysteria over nothing..
Catch am catch am. Thief thief thief!

Na wa for una authority stealing in the name of budget. So 78 million was the most competitive sum. Who got the contract and how much kickback dem share? The money reach u eko ile?
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 1:51pm On Aug 08, 2015
cabaliciouscabal:
it is u dat should shut ur stinking mouth, d guy was only trying to analyze d mode dat surround d contract, and he seems to know more abt d job dan u, u claim to be educated but ur line of discussion doubts Weda u actually went to school, u didn't educate us on y u think d amount should not be up to dat , instead u ar speaking British Ghetto Grammer , U PDP apologists ar only Wailing, Fashola will definitely get appointment in dis government, and if u ar not happy after it has appened, I personally advice u all to follow Oba Akiolu's Theory. Foool
If he does or does not get appointed it's nobody's problem. The point is you can't be serious about fighting corruption if you are surrounded by it. Nigerians (some) voted APC on their anti-corruption mantra and so far, from the issue of public declaration of assets(150 cows shouldn't take so long to count) to this latest scandal it seems they were short-changed. If this 78 million deal is true, we would love to know if they will still fight corruption or not because you cannot run and scratch your anus at the same time.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by TheAdvocate(m): 2:22pm On Aug 08, 2015
shegsrules:
What happens when tanoids are trying by all means to lift the hook of Saraki head. Using Fashola n Ameachi to distract efcc n d media
A fool and free 5MB!
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by aresa: 2:29pm On Aug 08, 2015
mykl01:
If he does or does not get appointed it's nobody's problem. The point is you can't be serious about fighting corruption if you are surrounded by it. Nigerians (some) voted APC on their anti-corruption mantra and so far, from the issue of public declaration of assets(150 cows shouldn't take so long to count) to this latest scandal it seems they were short-changed. If this 78 million deal is true, we would love to know if they will still fight corruption or not because you cannot run and scratch your anus at the same time.
Awarding contract for 78 million can not be termed corruption until we see exactly the content, what was ordered against what was finally delivered. And if it really was a bloated contract to loot, who benefited, in whose account the money went and was the former governor directly instrumental in any way regarding the contract.

What you are doing is called assumption, rumor mongering and speculations..
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by BushidoBlue(m): 2:38pm On Aug 08, 2015
Bit by painful bit APC leaders are being shown to be what they truly are
CORRUPT!!!!

I'm sure Jonathan is chilling on a recliner in Otuoke, sipping his "infamous ogogoro" and laughing at the sai Lie Baba Chanters...
The real Wailers!!!
See as they run about trying to justify evil with lies.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by engineerboat(m): 2:40pm On Aug 08, 2015
socialmediaman:
Read this before you conclude:

I am not here to find Fashola innocent or guilty or hold a brief for him. I do not have the details of the contract so i would wait for a statement from Fashola before drawing my conclusions. Fashola is definitely not crazy to award a contract of 78 million for just a website upgrade. There could be more to it, let's give him some benefit of doubt

If you're knowledgable about websites, you'll know that a contract like this would involve much more than the website itself, like:

Development of custom school management software (ERP system)

Development of taxi service management system ( example Uber)

Development of other custom software management systems for the Fashola projects

If that's the case, then This is no biggie, it's worth the amount, but I am not holding brief for Fashola on this as I do not have details of the said contract award, when he releases a statement, I'll do my own personal assessment about it. We're in an Information Age though, his bad. But for now, I'll say innocent until proven guilty.
from your response abeg where is the upgrade of www.tundefsashola.com, because all what you've mentioned belong to lagos state government and nobody is crying over that.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by socialmediaman: 3:00pm On Aug 08, 2015
989900:
You've spoken well.

While Fashola is someone I hold in esteem (comparatively), I think he sure has a lot of explaining to do on this. Of course, it's a possibility to spend that much (we've spent a few millions on a couple of sites we own too), but we need details like you rightly mentioned.

Personally, I would pefer those attacking you for your comment to point us in the right direction if they have such details.

For example, there were some allegations about cost of building some schools in Lagos by Fash, which I rightly screamed: fraud!
Thanks for your input. I decided to give him benefit of doubt because he happens to be one of the very few governors I respect, comparatively like you mentioned. I would also accord this same privilege to a man like Peter Obi, these few people at least can be accorded some benefit of doubt until the charge against them is established.

I'll wait for him to release a statement before I make further comments on the issue, that's my position for now. If people have more details about this contract, I'll be glad to view them and do my personal accessment. I'm glad the media is coming hard on our public officers though, that's how it should be.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Jman06(m): 3:07pm On Aug 08, 2015
Sabrwahaqqo:
My dear Bgino, Before we penalize, we need 'fair-hearing'. This 78 milli ish will continue to be ordinary noise till proved otherwise.
Fashola I suppose will not be soo stvpid ( forgive the gravity of that word) to allow this huge expense on a 'mere' website soo apparent if no concrete reason don't back it- My opinion
But like I've said we need fair hearing before crucifixion.
you are a hypocrite for calling for fair hearing now that fashOLE is involved. Why didn't you call for fair hearing when Odua was being accused? Or when so many unfounded allegations were being leveled against GEJ's administration?

Blaody tribal bigot!
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 3:36pm On Aug 08, 2015
ThisMeansWAR:
he is actually right, software engineering and database are not beans.. take mtn website and data base as examples. do you know how much they pay their engineers to keep those things functioning every month?
nairaland as a simple web forum alone, do you know how much and man power that keeps the site going? you think it's just Seun that is still doing all the work like some shitty blogsite or WordPress? think again.
No bro... Read again. It's a website upgrade. Check page 2 of the attached document. The docs were published by Lagos state public procurement agency

http://www.lagosppa.gov.ng/awarded-contracts/details-contracts-award-2014
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 3:50pm On Aug 08, 2015
Sabrwahaqqo:
Yasss!
Read bro. It's a website upgrade! Check page 2 of the attached document. The docs were published by Lagos state public procurement agency

http://www.lagosppa.gov.ng/awarded-contracts/details-contracts-award-2014
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by bros856: 3:52pm On Aug 08, 2015
CACOL, Civil society group mess up Jonathan with pressure and got him confuse when trying to do appointment, they have started again with BUHARI, be warn, if you have personnel problems with FASHOLA go and sort it out. No civil society group again is qualified to advise BUHARI on who to choose or not ot choose for appointment. This people on appointment are not working for civil society group but BUHARI and MR PRESIDENT is getting it right on appointment so I don't think BUHARI need you people's advise. You are all sponsored by PDP members who are aggrived with individual.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by laudate: 3:52pm On Aug 08, 2015
mekaboy:
My friend shut ur trap and stop talking rubbish. Do u think there r no developers here?

Which website in Nigeria cost 15m to develop talkless of 78m?
Abeg, help me ask dem! I cringed when I heard someone trying to justify the 78 million spent, because they had spent some millions on building websites in their office! Chai!

Any website that costs more than 5 million to build is a huge scam! sad

I just hope it is a typo. Maybe they wanted to type, 78,000 or 780,000 or even 7.8 million, and they put in a few extra zeros by mistake!
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by laudate: 4:04pm On Aug 08, 2015
socialmediaman:
Custom made ERP websites could cost as much as $3 million dollars or more. They are deployed in hospitals, schools and universities, government, oil companies, banks, multinationals, construction etc. A major Bank in Nigeria once paid N4 billion Naira to develop their website which runs an ERP software on it
That bank was daft, with a capital D! shocked shocked angry Oracle, SAP, Microsoft etc, all sell software applications that can do these things. Worst case, ask them to customise a few areas for you, if you want to integrate it to your website. It would cost you a little extra, but it can be done. Get enterprise licenses for all users. If you go to India, you can get software developers that will build these things for you at a far more reasonable cost, than what you have quoted here!

ERP solutions are one dime-a-dozen these days,and you want me to believe a bank paid 4 billion for their own? Haba! There is more to this story than you are telling!
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 4:21pm On Aug 08, 2015
Jman06:
you are a hypocrite for calling for fair hearing now that fashOLE is involved. Why didn't you call for fair hearing when Odua was being accused? Or when so many unfounded allegations were being leveled against GEJ's administration?

Blaody tribal bigot!
I'm a nigga that 've decided not to listen to the noise of the market. I've made my point and I'm standing by it.
That said, If it were somebody from PDP, the 'insatiable gluttons' they've and are still proving themselves to be, I will not be surprised, neither would I have gone through the pain cum stress of typing any shi and getting dumb mentions like this very one I am replying, I'll just have let it pass.
Deep down in you, you know what I've said is the truth, no ethno-centralism nor bigotry like you've falsely accused.
Now, let me elucidate a bit ; I'm not saying Fash is 100 saint, even if he has intentions to be one.... but comparing Fash to Odua nd other big looters of our public funds that graced the 16 long years of PDP's 'predator-like' reign is like comparing the condition of a one eyed man wt that of a deaf dumb and blind- all in one....
I think it's worthy af note that iam no party loyalist neither do I have gains to amass from supporting anybody. I am for everybody and iam for nobody. Also, I usually can't resist the urge to shut the mouth of a pot calling the kettle narcissist and yeah, you are what you said you are; bloody tribal bigot!
Sorry, don't quote me again;
1.no time to waste replying lame posts.
2. Our notions will always be irreconcilable
3. No meaningful conclusions will be met
4. I am tired of name calling and pointing accusing fingers because of some set of people; Its stupid and I hv chosen to stop acting so foolish
So, stomach your thoughts and start thinking of how you can get yo ass up there. Adieu!
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by socialmediaman: 4:22pm On Aug 08, 2015
laudate:
That bank was daft, with a capital D! shocked shocked angry Oracle, SAP, Microsoft etc, all sell software applications that can do these things. Worst case, ask them to customise a few areas for you, if you want to integrate it to your website. It would cost you a little extra, but it can be done. Get enterprise licenses for all users. If you go to India, you can get software developers that will build these things for you at a far more reasonable cost, than what you have quoted here!

ERP solutions are one dime-a-dozen these days,and you want me to believe a bank paid 4 billion for their own? Haba! There is more to this story than you are telling!
That was around 2005 or so, open source ERP solutions were still at infant stages at best, you needed to completely customize and deploy. Still, ERPs cost money for customization, depending on the application, talk about server and network infrastructure etc
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 4:24pm On Aug 08, 2015
mekadinho:
I keep saying it, u guys represent hypocrisy, lies and propaganda, u guys hv 2faces, always ready to cover ur stinking mouth why shouting dat anoda personz mouth is oozing. Would u hv written ds nonsense n trash has it been d subject of d story is a PDP member? U guys disgust me.
Ok, your comment is also very very disgusting I feel I want to throw. That said refer to the post above this very one by me for other informations. Thank U.
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by just4now(m): 4:25pm On Aug 08, 2015
owobokiri post=367
socialmediaman:
That was around 2005 or so, open source ERP solutions were still at infant stages at best, you needed to completely customize and deploy. Still, ERPs cost money for customization, depending on the application, talk about server and network infrastructure etc
25273:



This is the problem with you clannish people. How can you try to juggle facts so brazenly on this issue just to defend your tin god? Did you give Princess Oduah the "benefit of doubt"? Did you "give the benefit of doubt" to Jonathan?? Why is it so hard for you guys to condemn your own?? From the Lekki road contract, through the monorail to this, has fashola left anybody in doubt as to his corrupt penchant to loot Lagos with his oga tinubu? This is exactly how some of you were bussy abusing some Deltans for protesting in favour of ibori. You do this while defending Tinubu. Somehow, it managed to escape your knowledge that your god tinubu is far corrupt than one thief named ibori. . Tribal mutants.
Really! !!
Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by Nobody: 4:28pm On Aug 08, 2015
seyiogunjuyigbe:
Read bro. It's a website upgrade! Check page 2 of the attached document. The docs were published by Lagos state public procurement agency

http://www.lagosppa.gov.ng/awarded-contracts/details-contracts-award-2014
Ok, but what took you so long?
You are yet to answer my question tho but this reply is still welcomed.
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