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Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by huptin(m): 7:58am On Aug 11, 2015
Wole Soyinka and Chinua Achebe were never nominated together for the nobel laureatte, Infact Chinua was never nominated not even for once.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 8:02am On Aug 11, 2015
Some ediot think the Nobel Prize is awarded based on one masterpiece. Because Achebe wrote Things Fall Apart, he is regarded as more worthy than Soyinka. Apart from the Nobel, Achebe's list of awards is so short compared to that of Soyinka. Soyinka is a master in the game. At his age, the man is still writing. Even though he is not recognized as a novelist, he wrote more novels than Achebe. Achebe's poetry are so weak that they are unpopular but Soyinka's poems have almost always been on the WAEC and NECO syllabus. Soyinka is so versatile that he wrote (and wrote well) in all the genres of literature. Soyinka is not appreciated here because his writing is lofty, not because he is a puppet. His writings are subtle. He doesn't side the white man. He is very traditional. He is so traditional that all his children bear deep Yoruba names such as Moremi. In The Lion And The Jewel, Tradition triumph over Westernization.

In summary, Soyinka won because he was the best candidate. Also, Nobel prizes in Literature are not awarded based on one strong book but on an author's ouvre. As at 1986, Achebe had only written one very popular book. At 1986, he had not written one major work for almost twenty years. Even if he had been nominated, you think the committee would have considered him more worthy than Soyinka who had since 1960 been publishing in all the genres?
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by soloroyality(m): 8:10am On Aug 11, 2015
Pls Nigeria is not a nation and never be one,
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by soloroyality(m): 8:15am On Aug 11, 2015
The writer above me got it all wrong, achebe's novel was the best ever till nw, why do u think it was translated to 100 languages and still counting?
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 8:15am On Aug 11, 2015
TopGee:
Am not trying to abuse Yorubas, and I have not done that before, but I'm just trying to put straight the record.
What useless records? How many of their books have you even read?
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 8:19am On Aug 11, 2015
sthugo:
Chinua achebe still stands out as the best writer
'Weather oyibo give am price or not'
He writes explicitly,naturally using words all can comprehend in an intriguing style..

Am yet to see another of his kind
Best writer in Iboland? No disrespect to the dead and to a legendary writer, but Soyinka writes better. How many of Soyinka's plays have you guys even read to yarn this bullsh1t about Achebe being better than him?
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Omololu007(m): 8:20am On Aug 11, 2015
fr3do:
I'm sure C. Achebe did not care about the colonizers' awards.
so Nigeria was coloniz by d swedes? Wetin person no go hear from nairaland grin
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Omololu007(m): 8:25am On Aug 11, 2015
TopGee:
Probably most people don't know the reason why Wole Soyinka was given Noble Prize Award. It was obvious that the Late Chinue Achebe was the favourite to win Noble Prize ahead of Wole Soyinka but Chinue Achebe was denied the award because he was the only person in Africa that stood and criticized the Western countries of been biased in giving award. He told them that in giving award, they should not only judge based on their {Western}perception of writing, but they should also look at it based on African perception.

This did not go down well with the Western countries who knew that the Late Chinue Achebe had exposed their biased judgement. So, to punish Chinue Achebe, they looked for his rival Wole Soyinka who was far behind the Late Achebe and gave him the Noble Prize thinking that would provoke hard feelings on Late Chinue Achebe.

Before then, nobody from Africa had won the award, and it was after Late Chinue Achebe criticized them that they decided to give it to Wole Soyinka. The Late Chinue Achebe was well known in the world than Wole Soyinka in everything.
chai! See d nonsense a Nigerian youth is writin about..how will dis nonsense u write hia now affect u and ur family life.ao will chinua achebe winin it improve ur standard of living
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by azzima(m): 8:28am On Aug 11, 2015
seunmsg:
Yeah, the same way he betrayed Nigeria and supported the Igbos during the civil war which eventually led him to prison. Too bad he will continue to read all this trash from idiots like you that he went to prison to defend.
am buying you a bottle of Orijin for that accurate statement. You can NEVER fight for these people. Gbam! !
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by obailala(m): 8:37am On Aug 11, 2015
TopGee:
Probably most people don't know the reason why Wole Soyinka was given Noble Prize Award. It was obvious that the Late Chinue Achebe was the favourite to win Noble Prize ahead of Wole Soyinka but Chinue Achebe was denied the award because he was the only person in Africa that stood and criticized the Western countries of been biased in giving award. He told them that in giving award, they should not only judge based on their {Western}perception of writing, but they should also look at it based on African perception.

This did not go down well with the Western countries who knew that the Late Chinue Achebe had exposed their biased judgement. So, to punish Chinue Achebe, they looked for his rival Wole Soyinka who was far behind the Late Achebe and gave him the Noble Prize thinking that would provoke hard feelings on Late Chinue Achebe.

Before then, nobody from Africa had won the award, and it was after Late Chinue Achebe criticized them that they decided to give it to Wole Soyinka. The Late Chinue Achebe was well known in the world than Wole Soyinka in everything.
Boy, what exactly is the motive behind this your early morning blab?... how old are you and when did you start using nairaland?.... are you simply trying to fuel another foolish tribal war this morning?.... what exactly do you hope to achieve with this your story?
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Salex007(m): 8:49am On Aug 11, 2015
I think it's because all the remaining Africa writers are liberal writer while only soyinka was not
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 8:54am On Aug 11, 2015
Regardless of what people say or think-

Only one of Chinua Achebe and Wole Soyinka is better known worldwide as far as literature is concerned (and is considered as more of a Africa legend in literature).

Take a guess who.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by fashiajones(m): 9:22am On Aug 11, 2015
chinua and wole were good friends in school and after school. both of them are legend in their own making instead of us deliberating or trying to start another war on tribalism while don't we just celebrate them for their achievement..wole won the noble prize because I believe he was the best candidate. He was more of a critic, a poet, writer and an activist, Which got him to prison at various regime even during the civil war.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by onomeasike: 9:41am On Aug 11, 2015
Why do Igbos take advantage of the gullible ones among them.When will Igbos stop peddling falsehood to massage their false ego?
From repeatedly lying about Awo's peaceful death,to Ojukwu's oft-repeated propaganda,to Buhari's no school certificate lie,Police killing a trader in Ariaria market (when they knew it was NDLEA) and now attempting to compare Wole Soyinka's legendary status as a far better intellectual than story-teller Achebe.
For how long do a few collective of Igbo race continue to tolerate this professional liars who embarrass their tribe.
This is sickening. Achebe knows Wole is far far ahead of him in real intellectual professional literature
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by ERODEDEAST(f): 9:46am On Aug 11, 2015
Asebe is a story teller
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by tola9jaa: 10:00am On Aug 11, 2015
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TopGee:
Probably most people don't know the reason why Wole Soyinka was given Noble Prize Award. It was obvious that the Late Chinue Achebe was the favourite to win Noble Prize ahead of Wole Soyinka but Chinue Achebe was denied the award because he was the only person in Africa that stood and criticized the Western countries of been biased in giving award. He told them that in giving award, they should not only judge based on their {Western}perception of writing, but they should also look at it based on African perception.

This did not go down well with the Western countries who knew that the Late Chinue Achebe had exposed their biased judgement. So, to punish Chinue Achebe, they looked for his rival Wole Soyinka who was far behind the Late Achebe and gave him the Noble Prize thinking that would provoke hard feelings on Late Chinue Achebe.

Before then, nobody from Africa had won the award, and it was after Late Chinue Achebe criticized them that they decided to give it to Wole Soyinka. The Late Chinue Achebe was well known in the world than Wole Soyinka in everything.
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CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE WOLE IS FAR BEHIND ACHEBE
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 10:24am On Aug 11, 2015
Nigerians always creating ideas to hurt each other. I think Soyinka is the better writer. Politics has little to do with it.

Let me shock you, op. Chimammanda is better than Achebe.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 10:43am On Aug 11, 2015
onomeasike:
Why do Igbos take advantage of the gullible ones among them.When will Igbos stop peddling falsehood to massage their false ego?
From repeatedly lying about Awo's peaceful death,to Ojukwu's oft-repeated propaganda,to Buhari's no school certificate lie,Police killing a trader in Ariaria market (when they knew it was NDLEA) and now attempting to compare Wole Soyinka's legendary status as a far better intellectual than story-teller Achebe.
For how long do a few collective of Igbo race continue to tolerate this professional liars who embarrass their tribe.
This is sickening. Achebe knows Wole is far far ahead of him in real intellectual professional literature
C'mon dude. Tribe has nothing to do with. Our tribe is in no way responsible for truth or falsehood. We are humans first before anything. Our environment can. An Igbo boy who finds himself in an intelligent community of Yorubas has a high potential to be intelligent and so is the Yoruba boy in an intelligent community of Igbos. But it becomes difficult when the environment is not any of these.

I think Soyinka is better but not as you put it. Soyinka is gold.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by fr3do(m): 12:47pm On Aug 11, 2015
Omololu007:
so Nigeria was coloniz by d swedes? Wetin person no go hear from nairaland grin
stop being a mumu.
'colonizers' in this sense refers to Europeans as a whole.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Omololu007(m): 1:00pm On Aug 11, 2015
fr3do:
stop being a mumu.
'colonizers' in this sense refers to Europeans as a whole.
u are d one dat is a mumu,so because 4 or 5 european country coloniz africa,it means every european country is involve....ur mumu no get part two
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by forgiveness: 1:31pm On Aug 11, 2015
The Nobel Prize in Literature 1986
Wole Soyinka

"who in a wide cultural perspective and with poetic overtones fashions the drama of existence"
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by forgiveness: 1:33pm On Aug 11, 2015
The Nobel Prize in Literature 1988
Naguib Mahfouz

"who, through works rich in nuance - now clear-sightedly realistic, now evocatively ambiguous - has formed an Arabian narrative art that applies to all mankind"

The Nobel Prize in Literature 1987
Joseph Brodsky

"for an all-embracing authorship, imbued with clarity of thought and poetic intensity"

The Nobel Prize in Literature 1986
Wole Soyinka

"who in a wide cultural perspective and with poetic overtones fashions the drama of existence"

The Nobel Prize in Literature 1985
Claude Simon

"who in his novel combines the poet's and the painter's creativeness with a deepened awareness of time in the depiction of the human condition"

The Nobel Prize in Literature 1984
Jaroslav Seifert

"for his poetry which endowed with freshness, sensuality and rich inventiveness provides a liberating image of the indomitable spirit and versatility of man"

The Nobel Prize in Literature 1983
William Golding

"for his novels which, with the perspicuity of realistic narrative art and the diversity and universality of myth, illuminate the human condition in the world of today"

The Nobel Prize in Literature 1982
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 1:51pm On Aug 11, 2015
soloroyality:
The writer above me got it all wrong, achebe's novel was the best ever till nw, why do u think it was translated to 100 languages and still counting?
Translated into all the available anguages does not make a novel better than any that has not even one translation. Some books are very easy to translate. Soyinka's books are not that easy. The man is never apologetic. He writes whatever he wants to write in whatever form he wants. He doesn't care to write because of anybody. Achebe wrote in simple English that gives itself to easy translation.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by alezzy13: 1:55pm On Aug 11, 2015
omoelesa:
The cry baby of nigeria has started again,this time, they have taken their cry to international level.every body is always victimasing and marginalinazing the ibos.
As in!! I am just sick to death with these people and thier never ending, wailing
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by KanwuliaJara: 1:59pm On Aug 11, 2015
Because when it comes to "ARIWO", the WESTERN MOUTH is always bigger than the EASTERN MOUTH!!!!! grin
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by tuffgongjo(m): 2:00pm On Aug 11, 2015
chuna1985:
We Nigerian literature students know that Soyinka is no match for Achebe.
And who (s)elected you as a mouth piece?
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by alezzy13: 2:00pm On Aug 11, 2015
hifaif:
[b]Some ediot think the Nobel Prize is awarded based on one masterpiece. Because Achebe wrote Things Fall Apart, he is regarded as more worthy than Soyinka. Apart from the Nobel, Achebe's list of awards is so short compared to that of Soyinka. Soyinka is a master in the game. At his age, the man is still writing. Even though he is not recognized as a novelist, he wrote more novels than Achebe. Achebe's poetry are so weak that they are unpopular but Soyinka's poems have almost always been on the WAEC and NECO syllabus. Soyinka is so versatile that he wrote (and wrote well) in all the genres of literature. Soyinka is not appreciated here because his writing is lofty, not because he is a puppet. His writings are subtle. He doesn't side the white man. He is very traditional. He is so traditional that all his children bear deep Yoruba names such as Moremi. In The Lion And The Jewel, Tradition triumph over Westernization.

In summary, Soyinka won because he was the best candidate. Also, Nobel prizes in Literature are not awarded based on one strong book but on an author's ouvre. As at 1986, Achebe had only written one very popular book. At 1986, he had not written one major work for almost twenty years. Even if he had been nominated, you think the committee would have considered him more worthy than Soyinka who had since 1960 been publishing in all the genres?[/b]
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Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 2:38pm On Aug 11, 2015
tuffgongjo:
And who (s)elected you as a mouth piece?
Are u our ear piecehuh
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by tuffgongjo(m): 3:14pm On Aug 11, 2015
chuna1985:
Are u our ear piecehuh
Speak for yourself$stop Generalizing.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by tuffgongjo(m): 3:14pm On Aug 11, 2015
chuna1985:
Are u our ear piecehuh
Speak for yourself$stop Generalizing.
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by hafeeanubasy: 3:26pm On Aug 11, 2015
As if Nobel prize context is between Soyinka and achebe alone. There are so many writers greater than achebe that contested the prize with Soyinka. Why are igbos this myopic and troublesome?
Re: Why Wole Soyinka Won Noble Prize Award Against Late Chinue Achebe. by Nobody: 3:31pm On Aug 11, 2015
tuffgongjo:
Speak for yourself$stop Generalizing.
Please which of Soyinka works was sold worldwidehuh
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