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| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 3:27pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
laudate:The below, already cancelled what you posted above. Gowon and US believed Biafra was holding the Minorities against their wish? Well it's simple, let's put it to a plebiscite. Guess who was scared of a plebiscite? " In an authoritative and detailed memorandum on the background, cause and consequences of the Nigerian civil war issued in November 1968 by more than sixty British subjects, including Sir Robert Stapleton, the last British governor of the Eastern region( 1959-60), it was concluded that of the 37 percent of the population which they estimated that minority group represented in Biafra, only 10% would favour continued association with the federal government". The. New York review of Books, Volume 14,Number 8. April 23, 1970 |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 3:27pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
laudate:The below, already cancelled what you posted above. Gowon and US believed Biafra was holding the Minorities against their wish? Well it's simple, let's put it to a plebiscite. Guess who was scared of a plebiscite? |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 3:36pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Of course, Ojukwu was preparing for war, cos he that wants Peace must be prepare for war. It's on record that Ojukwu after the first massacre, met with all Northern leaders, begging for the protection of Easterners lives. The Northern leaders gave Ojukwu assurances of safety of the. Easterners, so Ojukwu pleaded with the East to go back again to North , that we are all Nigerians, but what happened again? The Northern military leadership looked the other way as the Northerners once again massacred Igbos for a second time. " States are made to serve people; governments are established to protect the citizens of a state against external enemies and internal wrong-doers".~ Julius Nyerere It became clear to Ojukwu that both the North military leaders and commoners will not stop until they have exterminated the East. preparing for war was the logical thing to do, even when he wanted Peace. Ojukwu would still agreed to discussions and negotiations at a neutral ground in Aburi Ghana,fearing a repeat of Ironsi murder should he choose any Nigerian venue, but what happened? Gowon and the North still found a way to break the agreements reached at Aburi, deciding to produce a decree of their own. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 3:43pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
[b] The necessity for a new start by agreement was accepted by a Conference of military leaders from all parts of the Federation, in Aburi, Ghana, in January, 1967. There is a certain difference of opinion about some of the things which were agreed at the Conference. But there is no dispute about the fact that everyone joined in a Declaration renouncing the use of force as a means of settling the crisis in Nigeria. Nor does anyone dispute that it was agreed that a new constitution was to be worked out by agreement, and that in the meantime there would be a repeal of all military decrees issued since January, 1966 which reduced the powers of the Region. There was also agreement about rehabilitation payments for those who had been forced to flee from their homes, and about members of the armed forces being stationed in their home Regions. The Aburi Conference could have provided the new start which was necessary if the unity of Nigeria was to be maintained. But before the end of the same month, General Gowon was restating his commitment to the creation of new states, and his determination to oppose any form of confederation. And on the last day of January, the Federal military authorities were already giving administrative reasons for delay in the implementation of the Agreements reached at Aburi. It was the middle of March before a constitutional decree was issued which was supposed to regularize the position in accordance with with the decisions taken there. But unfortunately this Decree also included a new clause - which had not been agreed - and which gave the Federal authorities a reserve power over the Regions, and thus completely nullified the whole operation. Nor had any payment been made by the Federal Government to back up the monetary commitment for rehabilitation which it had accepted in the Ghana meeting. In short, the necessity for an arrangement which would take account of the fears created during 1966 was accepted at Aburi, and renounced thereafter by the Federal authorities. Yet they now claim to be defending the integrity of the country in which they failed to guarantee the most elementary safety of the twelve million peoples of Eastern Nigeria. [/b] Julius Nyerere a true Pan Africanist captured Ojukwu and Biafra's position like this. God bless his soul. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 3:49pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/how-ojukwu-rejected-offer-of-food-corridor/ How Ojukwu rejected offer of food corridor’ This was a letter written by Robert S. Goldstein, the Public Relations Representative of Biafra in the United States during the war.. It was first published in the Morning Post, Lagos on August 17, 1968 As your Public Relation’s Representative in the United States, it is my distasteful duty to tender my resignation based on the following points: POINT 1 – In November of 1967 when we met in Umuahia, you and your Cabinet were very impressive. You told me of the woes of your little Republic, that thousands of people had died, were dying and more were prepared to die for freedom’s sake. You and your Cabinet told me you believed world opinion would help your cause if you could get your story across. You expressed the opinion that very few if any people in the United States knew of the plight of the Biafrans. You asked me to tell the world that Britain had teamed up with Russia in a conspiracy with the Federal Government of Nigeria to murder every Ibo in Biafra. You suggested I use my talents to induce the Press to write about the Biafran side of the war, as at that time all news came out of Lagos. You will recall I did not take the asssignment that day but stayed on several days before deciding to take that job. To help win the peace At that time I stated to you and your cabinet that I was taking the assignment making it crystal clear I would try my best to help win the peace not the war. POINT TWO – I immediately arranged the first world Press conference in Biafra inviting the US Press as well as journalists and television people from England, France, Switzerland, Africa and other parts of the Globe. This was the first news break through. I arranged regular trips into Biafra for the world Press, helped set up stringers, etc., so that your statements and the statements of your Cabinet would be heard. At that time, I was absolutely positive you were right and your cause was a just one in the best interests of the free world and your countrymen. POINT THREE – Finally the Republic of Biafra was recognized first by Tanzania, then quickly followed by Gabon, the Ivory Coast and Zambia. Our public relations work was paying off, world opinion was starting to side with us. Peace talks were arranged at Kampala. I thought that if anyone walked away from the table it would be the Federal Government. But to my dismay, it was Biafra that left the Conference. After all the fighting and killing, I knew that peace would not come easy but I could not understand leaving the Peace Conference until the last point was negotiated and the avenue explored. POINT FOUR – Then urgent telex messages were received from ‘Biafra’ telling of tens of thousands of people starving in the refugee camps, the villages, the bush country – stating if something weren’t done in the next few months, over a million women, children and aged would be starved to death. I immediately contacted the Press, urgently petitioned the State Department for action on their part. Food, medicine and milk were sent to the only available ports open for immediate shipment to ‘Biafra’ via land routes through Federal and Biafra territory, under the auspices of world organizations such as the International Red Cross, among others. Then came the incredible answer from ‘Biafra’ that land corridors could not be acceptable until there was a complete ceasefire, and that an airlift was the only solution to feed the starving (See Confidential U.S. State Department Central Files (on the Nigerian Civil War) below. You then appeared before the various Heads of State and representatives of the OAU at Niamey in Niger. I fully expected you to at least accept the world help that was offered your starving throngs. However, you delayed, hoping to use these unfortunates with world sympathy on their side as a tool to further your ambition to achieve war concessions at the upcoming peace talks in Addis Ababa. Thus innocent victims continue to perish needlessly of starvation, the most agonizing death that can befall any living creature. POINT FIVE – This was incredible to me. I am now convinced that I have been used by you and your cabinet to help in military adventures of your origin….using your starving hordes as hostages to negotiate a victory. If at some later date, following the issuance of this letter, you do concede to allow a mercy land corridor…would you expect me to agree to espouse before the world Press the incredible delay of your decision. What explanation could I honestly give for the needless prolongation of this horror. Inconceivable acts I pray this communication may in some small way influence you to move affirmatively, allowing the mercy land corridor to be born. It is inconceivable to me that you would stop the feeding of thousands of your countrymen (under auspices of world organizations such as the International Red Cross, World Council of Churches and many more) via a land corridor which is the only practical way to bring in food to help at this time. It is inconceivable to me that men of good faith would try to twist world opinion in such a manner as to deceive people into believing that the starvation and hunger that is consuming ‘Biafra’ is a plot of Britain, Nigeria and others to commit genocide. POINT SIX – I cannot in all conscience serve you any longer. Nor can I be a party to suppressing the fact that your starving thousands have the food, medicine and milk available to them…..it can and is ready to be delivered through international organizations to you. Only your constant refusal has stopped its delivery. I am this date,tendering my resignation and am returning to Mr Collins Obih of the African Continental Bank all the fees you have given me(Letter of Credit No No. 354 $400,000 US.) I have sent your Representative in New York a Bond in the amount 800, 000 pounds that I was holding in your behalf. I have also this date sent the Bond of 200,000 pounds issued by the Central Bank of Nigeria to them for disposal. POINT SEVEN I am now convinced that one Nigeria is the only solution to peace. I also call upon you Mr. Ojukwu to allow your starving people to be fed. Their well being is of deep concern to me as well as other right thinking people of the world. Your acting in the utmost haste in this matter is in my opinion the first step toward any lasting peace in your country..." |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 4:04pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
If you claim that there is nothing like 90% of the implementation of an agreement, then you need to take a course in negotiations. The same point can be re- negotiated over and over again, over a length of time provided both parties are willing to continue with the negotiation. That is why diplomats and lobbyists are well-paid, in many countries in the world. There is a course called Progamme on Negotiation, (PON) at the Harvard University, which is dedicated to developing the theory and practice of negotiation and dispute resolution, in a range of public and private settings. I recommend that you take it. When over 90% of an agreement is offered and those making the offer are ready and willing to implement it, it shows good faith. the remaining 10% can be re- negotiated at a later stage. It does not make sense to turn down the 90%, when your fellow citizens are facing pain, horror and hardship which is exactly what Ojukwu did. Nothing like 90% application of an agreement. parties give and take during negotiations, that's when there is room of agreement and disagreements, once an agreement is reached, it's final. The West just reached an agreement with Iran over their nuclear deal, be rest assured that agreements will be considered failure should Iran default. And moreover, every agreement has a rate determining segement, and that rate determining segement for Aburi was autonomy of Each of the regions. By rejecting that part of the agreement, Gowon simply made no room for future negotiations, as without autonomy of the East, he could always remove Ojukwu and replace him with a stooge that will allow Gowon to re negotiate conditions and get all he wanted. But with Eastern autonomy, Gowon knew he stood no chance. The only people that faced Igbo citizens with horror were Northern military leaders who served as accomplices as their almajiris massacred Innocent Easterners in the North, not once, but twice, and even when we fled the North to the East, they still brought death to us in the East. Ojukwu was the man who stood between us and our killers, the Arewa-Odua, that's what history will remember him for. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 4:13pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/87243/1/why-aburi-accord-failed-by-asiodu.html WHY ABURI ACCORD FAILED, BY ASIODURead here: http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/87243/1/why-aburi-accord-failed-by-asiodu.html |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 4:15pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
[b] Since Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu
died, there has been no clear leadership
or unity of the Igbo. Why is it so?
Even the late Dim, never considered
himself as an Igbo leader; if you called
him an Igbo leader, he would just
chuckle. Don’t get me wrong, he enjoyed
the respect and adulation he got from his
people. If you saw the way he lived his
life among Ndi’igbo, everybody is trying to
recreate those attributes that made him so
loved by his people. Leaders emerge;
leaders are not crowned in Igbo land. By
their fruits you shall known them. The
greatest unity the Ndi’igbo had was from
1966 to 1970.
Can you tell us your civil war experience.
Did Ojukwu conscript you to fight during
the war?
No person of my age was conscripted.
We desired to join the Biafran Army, we
did not fear the military front, we did not
fear to die and that was what made the
war last as long as it did. If Ojukwu didn’t
declare that war at the time he did, we
would have killed him. In my set in the
Biafran School of Infantry, I was
commissioned the same day with Ojo
Maduekwe, he wasn’t conscripted. I was
commissioned the same day with Joseph
Okonkwo, the first Peoples Democratic
Party Chairman in Anambra State, he
wasn’t conscripted and so many. In fact,
if you were turned down, you agonised
you didn’t take part. We didn’t regret
dying, that was a war we didn’t regret any
wound we got. And I had serious wounds
in 1968, which I’ve carried till today.
Looking back now, would you say that as
a nation we have learnt lessons from that
sad episode?
Definitely, we have learnt lessons. To us,
the issue was not a matter of Biafra; it
was a matter of security of lives and
property. It was also a traumatic
psychological experience for us to feel
unwanted by brethren and by societies
where we wanted to belong. In typical
Igbo fashion, we said to ourselves that if
people rejected us, we should not reject
ourselves. I think we’ve learnt that lesson
now and we are all over Nigeria and even
the killings that happen now, only a few
are targeted at us. Many are collateral
damage. In 1966, it was definite pogrom.
We’ve learnt the lesson that you can’t
have pogrom and expect to be one
country, if that is one lesson we have
learnt, I think we have learnt something.
You were close to Ojukwu, tell us some
things about him that many people do not
know.
I thank God that I was privileged to have
known him for as long as I knew him. I
had admired him as a young man. Two
things about Ojukwu that the world may
not know: He was strong physically, he
was strong emotionally. In the language
of young people, he was the one person I
wanted most to chill with. There are two
things he told me: The decision to
declare war was the most agonising time
of his life, he spent time alone in his
office clutching his rosary, this is not the
attitude of somebody who wanted to be
emperor from the word go. The second
thing that he told me was that he could
never get out of his system the picture of
those people who were killed after he had
asked everyone who fled the North, to go
back. If those people, who had come to
safety, went back and died in gruesome
circumstances, he was always praying to
God to forgive him. If you entered his
study, you will see this picture of a huge
Igbo man who was beheaded and his
body sent down to the East by train.
He had people like Uche Chukwumerije,
the late Chuba Okadigbo, Ambassador
George Obiozor and others around him.
What came out was not Ojukwu’s view,
what came out was superior argument but
in this superior argument, you saw that
Ojukwu was a man of great intellectual
capacity. I can see why those who didn’t
have that kind of intellect will feel
threatened. One other thing during the war
that people didn’t know was that Ojukwu
always slept with his boots on; so,
whenever there was crisis, Ojukwu needed
just five minutes to move out and to get
to the point of the crisis. He wasn’t afraid
of a fight. Sometimes, we thought he had
a death wish, he wasn’t afraid of bullets
and mortars. [/b] |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 4:23pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
pazienza:Stop groping in the dark. Your knowledge of world affairs and what constitutes a negotiation is rudimentary. ![]() You keep chanting "an agreement is an agreement," like a groundnut seller. Agreements are re-negotiated everyday, otherwise lawyers would not have any job to do. Likewise, diplomats. How long did it take for Israel and Palestine to sit at the same table to negotiate in the past 4 decades, with America as the intermediary? Till today, they are still fighting, but they are still negotiating. You made reference to Iran. How many negotiations have been held with Iran in the past 10 years by America? If there is an agreement, if one party breaches one or two points of such an agreement but still goes ahead to implement 70% to 80% of that agreement, then the remaining part that is yet to be implemented can be re-negotiated. ![]() Have you ever heard of the term 'force majeure' to use an example. If it comes up at any time, then one or both parties to an agreement have the right to suspend the implementation of that agreement. Even though, 'force majeure' did not apply in this case. ![]() Ojukwu's belligerence and refusal to respond to the federal government after Aburi to discuss issues further, showed extreme bad faith. Many people have said that his going to Aburi was just a cosmetic exercise and he had no intention of fulfilling the terms. It later proved to be true. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 4:27pm On Aug 11, 2015*. Modified: 4:43pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
[b] Would you then describe him as suicidal? Ah, you could say so. Fleeing Biafra was a collective decision. Let me put it this way, If Ojukwu had been captured and humiliated by remaining as he wanted to remain, it would have dealt an irreparable damage on the Igbo psyche. Anybody who knew the details of the Ugwuta operation will know that Ojukwu was suicidal. Since the end of the civil war, the Igbo claim to be the target of victimisation, a recent one being the deportation of some Igbo people from Lagos. What can be done to stem this trend? That was completely inexplicable. Up till now, I cannot understand it. I also don’t think Governor Babatunde Fashola gave an apology, Fashola said he was sorry, that he was misunderstood by people, he was sorry that he was misunderstood, he should have said he was sorry for what he did. Fashola is a person who gave us the greatest respect when we went to see him as members of the burial committee for Ojukwu. I think he must do more than he has already done. What people feel is that that was not an apology, that it was a contrived thing not to damage the campaign of Chris Ngige (the All Progressives Congress candidate in Anambra governorship election). Fashola is a person we as Igbo people love; we have the greatest respect for him. The family and Igbo families are so interwoven. It was Asiwaju (former Lagos Governor, Bola tinubu) that appointed Joe Igbokwe (APC’s spokesman in Lagos). What Fashola did frightened many of us and he needs to go further than what he has done, it is almost like Okonkwo killing Ikemefuna who called him father. I think I will stop here because I like him very much, if I didn’t like him, I would have said a few things. [/b] http://www.punchng.com/feature/interview/ndigbo-would-have-killed-ojukwu-if-he-had-not-declared-war-a-b-c-nwosu/ Like I said before, I respect Uwaechue, but he is entitled to his own opinions, and not his own facts. Facts are sacrosanct, they don't bend, even for Uwaechue. Ojukwu was a rallying point for the East, as trailers and trailers of Eastern corpses killed by the almajiris with the tacit support of Northern military kept arriving the East, anger, anguish and a sense of revenge descended on the East, Ojukwu had mis calculated, sending us back to the North only for Easterners to be brought back as corpses. Eastern youths of UNN were demanding that Ojukwu should do something, Angry youths and bereaved parents were demanding the same. Eastern secession was the people's choice, not Ojukwu's, nobody lords it over East, you only carry out our demands or get booted out! What's the point of co existing in the same country with people that want to exterminate you, that was the sentiment in the East then,angry Youths willingly enrolled into the Biafran Army. Yorubas and their Arewa partners cannot re write Biafra history for Biafrans. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by shotster50(m): 4:28pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
I read Joe Achuzia's book Requiem Biafra growing up.. however now I know sadly that his book was full of embelishment.. Not taking away from his achievements during then but it is sad for me to realise that the hero was also a maniac .. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 4:41pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
laudate:Iran negotiations with the West always failed,which was the exact reason Iran was sanctioned. And the sanctions lifted recently when an agreement was reached with Iran. Agreements are only binding when you don't seek to emasculate your opponent in order to get upper hand. You don't change agreements, you change negotiations. By seeking to use divide and rule, Gowon sought to scuttle all agreements reached at Aburi. For without decentralization of FG powers, Gowon can decide to remove Ojukwu the next day and replace him with a stooge. All the agreements reached at Aburi were all anchorred on decentralization of FG powers, without which nothing could be achieved. Gowon simply doesn't understand what agreement meant. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by GentleToks(m): 4:42pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
oduastates:Igbos are nothing but thieves. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by carnegiefan: 4:43pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Yes, Biafra did not really surrender. If she did, nobody would be talking about it today. The fact remains that Biafra was defeated militarily, and the ONLY reason for that loss is LACK OF HEAVY MILITARY ASSETS. Biafra was fighting with light arms: mortars, rifles (most of which were non-automatic), locally made Ogbunigwe (IEDs really), and bare hands. The only Biafran made weapon that really tickled my fancy was the "Flying Ogbunigwe" -the guided anti-ship missile which had so much potential but lack of resources limited its production and use. And by the time it was available, the war was almost lost. The Owerri incident whereby an entire Nigerian battalion was totally surrounded and cut off, but could not be finished off due to lack of heavy artillery and anti-tank weapons by Biafrans, summarizes the war for me. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 4:54pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
[b] Somehow, Ojukwu persuaded Gowon that they were going to Aburi as gentlemen of the Nigerian Army to discuss certain things. Acknowledgement of what happened. Already, of course he knew that after the pogrom against Easterners, against Igbo in 1966, the Army, except in Lagos and the West had gone back to their places of origin. Now, no need bringing officials. So, guys we're going to talk as officers and gentlemen. Of course Gowon did not inform his secretary to government. He did not tell anybody, until the eve of the day he was going. So, if you were going to a conference, you will normally say what is the agenda. You will prepare, with the assistance of the agenda. Think about them. Think about various scenarios, and go and discuss. That didn't happen. Lo and behold when they reached Aburi, there was Ojukwu with a battery of permanent secretaries and one of the most formidable intellect this country has ever produced, Dr Pius Okigbo. All in the delegation. Who went with Gowon? Nobody. Not even secretary to the government. None of the so-called permanent secretaries. And they went there and talked and said they reached agreement. He stepped down as supreme military commander and they talked about the divisions in the Nigerian army and if Nigeria was attacked, then they will consult and decide whether they are going to fight. [/b] This is a very silly comment, so it's Ojukwu's fault that Ojukwu came prepared for the negotiations and Gowon didn't come prepared? Choi! Some people lack brain cells. This is akin to students that have a debate, the intelligent one read well on the topic out hand, and the slowpoke didn't read and came unprepared. When the debate ended, of course there was only going to be one winner, so the slowpoke went home and started complaining that the brilliant student wasn't sincere, he was cunning, and why is he so? Because he prepared well to a debate. Infact, the above quoted Post is an indictment to Gowon and the zoological republic, it lays to bare the exact reason why the country has remained a third world country. A country led by morons! |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 5:29pm On Aug 11, 2015*. Modified: 7:57pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
pazienza:This was an interview granted by Prof. A.B.C Nwosu, who spoke on the Nigerian Civil War, the life of late Biafran warlord, Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, to the Punch Newspapers and it was published on Oct 13 2013. Always try to give credit where it is due. http://www.punchng.com/feature/interview/ndigbo-would-have-killed-ojukwu-if-he-had-not-declared-war-a-b-c-nwosu/ The fact that Prof Nwosu was not conscripted, does not mean others were not! http://emeagwali.com/biafra/nigeria-biafra-civil-war-after-the-war-was-over.html In fact, what Prof. Nwosu said was "nobody of his age was conscripted." Prof. Nwosu at the time of this report was at least 60 years old or more. However, he did not mention what age he was referring to, and he did not say younger men, were not conscripted. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 5:31pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
carnegiefan:Biafra did not surrender??! Did you read Gen. Effiong's speech? |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 5:40pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
pazienza:Guy, you just failed elementary negotiations 101! Please take it from those who know.... agreements can be (and often are) re-negotiated, and they are often re-negotiated (e.g. when the status quo changes, circumstances change or when one or both parties request the need to do so, in the light of new facts that have arisen etc). So, I beg you ...don't allow people to laugh at you when you say agreements cannot be re-negotiated. Chai! Was Decree 8 not anchored on decentralisation of powers??! It proposed a confederacy with a very weak centre, oh! |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 5:49pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
pazienza:Guy, you are the revisionist now. Nobody is re-writing any history for Biafra. You are the one that has refused to accept that there are many sides to a war, and as such there are different perspectives about such a war! The dramatis personae always vary depending on the event, and they all have different stories to tell. That was why in one of my earlier posts, I recommended that you should read different books on Biafra, especially those written by other authors, when you were stubbornly citing Diamond's views as if it was your Bible on the civil war. ![]() Uwechue's report about the war, is just as valid as Ojukwu's side of the war. And Uwechue's opinions are supported with hard core facts ranging from diplomatic dispatches from various embassies, actual meetings with heads of states, eye witness accounts of things that transpired etc. So why would you discountenance Uwechue's account, especially when you have NOT read his book? Na wah oh! His book was published in 2004. Ojukwu died in 2011. Did Ojukwu contradict him or denounce what Uwechue had written, when he was still alive?? ![]() |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by disumusa: 5:57pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
hakeem4:after conquered obj now plead to federal govt to accept the surrender. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by Duru1(m): 5:57pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
laudate:The above crap could only be strung together by an ill-educated bed-wetter. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by Duru1(m): 6:07pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
laudate:There is no doubt you have issues with comprehension. Even when given the whole year to redeem a little credebility, you could not fathom out that Ralp Uwechue was ambassador of Biafra to France. Where you got the bolded in the above post that Ralp Uwechue was secretary in the Biafran cabinet beats my wild imagination. In fact, I am not surprised at the craps coming from you on this discuss. By the way, anybody associated with a government in any capacity does not include him or her as a cabinet member. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 6:20pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Duru1:Don't be surprised, because none of it is crap. But then I can't blame you ...you must have been so used to 'crap', that you cannot tell the difference when the truth hits you. Anyone with a modicum of civility would simply have said: "Uwechue was actually the Biafran diplomatic representative to France, and not Secretary in the Biafran cabinet?" But no, you had to insert invectives and insults because that is the way you have been taught. No problem. Here, read this link: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1984/SMR.htm It was actually an American military officer, Michael R. Stafford, a Major in the United States Army who called Uwechue a secretary in the cabinet. Here are his words: "..In this position, Ojukwu emerged as the leader of the Ibo. Said a former Secretary in the Biafra Govenment, Raph Uwechue, "It is sad but instructive irony that Lieutenant Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwa, one of Africa's one-time most brilliant political promises, was the man that led his own people with such a lack of ingenuity into what was clearly a foreseeable disaster."(1) http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1984/SMR.htmGo and take it up with him, if you like. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by scholes0(m): 7:14pm On Aug 11, 2015*. Modified: 7:29pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
pazienza:The Southern Cameroons was never administered as a part of Eastern Nigeria. It was administered separately under the Federal government of Nigeria. What you said above is completely false. in October 1954, the federation of Nigeria was organized, comprising the Northern region, Western region, Eastern region, Federal Capital Territory Lagos, and the Southern Cameroons They voted in a plebiscite as a UN Trusteeship territory that had formerly belonged to Germany, to out of the Nigerian union, and join the territory of French Cameroon. So, I don't exactly understand why you are trying to do, by equating the independence of Southern Cameroons/Bamenda with the excision of the Mid-West from the Western region. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 8:08pm On Aug 11, 2015*. Modified: 8:54pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
[b] Anybody who was present at the Aburi meetburi meeting or has read the minutes, the communiqués, statements, and verbatim reports would be surprised that a person who calls himself a head of state could so deliberately mislead accredited representatives of foreign governments by saying that the implementation of each item of the conclusions required prior detailed examination by the administrative and professional experts in the various fields. The conclusions in Aburi were no proposals but decisions taken by the highest authority in the land. What happened in fact was that specific matters, namely, the decrees and sections of decrees to be repealed, the mechanics of army reorganization, and the question of rehabilitation of refugees, were referred to experts. The meeting of the financial experts to consider the question of rehabilitation of displaced persons has not been held because the Ministry of Finance does not think that such that such a meeting would serve any useful purpose. The army experts met and reached agreements, but these were rejected. Lieutenant-Colonel Yakubu Gowon told the Heads of Missions that the agreement about returning the regions to the positions before January 17 also meant in effect that the federal government in Lagos would continue to carry on its functions as before. He failed to inform the world that the decisions taken at Aburi, the federal government meant no more than the Supreme Military Council. No one of course who knows the sort of advice Lieutenant-Colonel Gowon is receiving in Lagos would be surprised by this suppression and distortion of the truth. The actual Aburi decisions read as follows: Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence. Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council. [/b] http://www.kwenu.com/biafra/on_aburi_we_stand.htm You know nothing if you say there was decentralization of power. The meat of contention between Gowon and Ojukwu was decentralization of power, in this case, the power resting on the supreme military council, and all decisions made to be subjected under the military council, with Gowon serving as a figure head of that council, a commander in chief like Ojukwu suggested. On the basis of this, Gowon had no right to create new states, give decree 8, and other things without the sitting of the military supreme council that Ojukwu should be part of. Gowon wanted absolute power over the whole regions! This was the meat of the negotiation, everything else was anchored on it, and this was exactly the part Gowon reneged on! |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 8:36pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
In July 1969, I was conscripted into the Biafran army and sent to Oguta war front, without any military training or food. I later escaped to Ndoni and volunteered to serve as a cook in the Officer's Mess of the Biafran Army. This was towards the end of the war, when the number of willing soldiers had thinned out. The not so willingly were then forced to join, as is done in war. Emeagwali obviously was not so interested in the war, and that would explain why he volunteered to be at the kitchen rather than the war front, men like him were taunted for being weaklings those days, my dad told me. At the beginning of the war, all that joined the. Biafran Army joined willingly. My father went all the way from Onitsha to St Vincent college Agbogwugwu in Awgu Enugu state,So many were rejected then, those that were taken counted it as a thing of pride. And it was this willing youths that were vocal in the demand for Biafra, and they were indeed the majority. My dad joined the Biafran Army together with his two elder brothers, at the very beginning of the war and they had to travel all the way from Onitsha to Agbogwugwu in Enugu to join, such was their passion and belief in Biafran freedom. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 8:50pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
laudate:I don't need to read Uwaechue's book to smell lies when I see one. Biafra was the Eastern people's choice, people asked Ojukwu to declare for secession after Ojukwu had exhausted all peaceful options,to state that Ojukwu forced Ndiigbo into war is not only a historical revision, but an insult to the Igbo spirit, which will never bend to the whims and caprices of one man, so much that, we evolved a democratic system thousands of years before the Greeks knew the meaning of that. Maybe tomorrow, history revisionists like you will come and tell us that Kanu Nnamdi forced Ndiigbo to war, when in actual sense, Ndiigbo is using Kanu Nnamdi to achieve our freedom, hence why he controls fellowership today, all over Igboland. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 8:55pm On Aug 11, 2015*. Modified: 9:30pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
pazienza:Ehn... why do you persist in citing other people's comments without including the sources or the links to such comments?? Don't allow anyone to accuse you of plagiarism oh! The comments in bold were actually made by Ojukwu on May 30 1969, and published by Vanguard Newspaper on the 27th of November 2011. - See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/on-aburi-we-stand-the-distortion-of-accord-by-ojukwu/#sthash.guR2wUbb.dpuf The actual Aburi decisions read as follows:If Ojukwu believed so much in the Aburi accord, how come he ignored several calls to meet with Gowon after the accord concerning the decisions taken in Ghana?? It was Ojukwu's refusal, intransigence and subsequent actions that precipitated the creation of Decree 8. Ojukwu ignored Decree 8 which would have also given him most of what he wanted, and his subsequent actions forced Gowon's hand which led to the creation of states. Oh, Gowon had no right to issue a decree, but Ojukwu had rights to unilaterally declare secession and seize properties that jointly belonged to the entire country, abi? ![]() If Ojukwu believed in the Aburi accord, how come he decided to corner the oil assets meant for the whole country, simply because they were in the East, without informing the SMC or regional governments in other parts of the country, when it was agreed at Aburi that this would be the path through which major decisions would be taken?? ![]() How come he seized planes belonging to the Nigeria Airways alongside coaches, land and property of the Nigeria Railways which was the joint property of the entire country, simply because they were located within his regional borders in the East, without consulting governors of the other regions or the Supreme Military Council (SMC) as stipulated in the accord?? Anyway, Ojukwu misinformed Nigerians about Aburi according to Gowon. My only grouse with Gowon was the fact that he did not make this remark when Ojukwu was alive. I would have like to see Ojukwu's reaction. ![]() Nigeria’s wartime leader, Yakubu Gowon, a retired general, has accused Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, who led eastern Nigeria in an unsuccessful secession bid in 1967, of misrepresenting the Aburi Accord to Nigerians. The accord was reached at a meeting held between January 4-5, 1967, in Aburi, a Ghanaian town, between delegates of the federal military government and the now defunct eastern region as part of efforts to prevent the looming civil war in the aftermath of the 1966 military coups. Gowon said this while marking his remarks at the launch of a book, “The people s choice” written by Rev. Fr. Charles Imohkai.He also gave further insight into this aspect at a public function held in Anambra state. Speaking as a guest speaker at the Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu Universirty, (COOU) pre-convocation lecture to herald the 6th Convocation of the university , Gowon said that Ojukwu’s stubbornness which led him to hold a state broadcast contrary to the agreement in the Aburi accord and also declaring that the accord was for a con-federal government was the reason for the war. |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 9:06pm On Aug 11, 2015*. Modified: 9:50pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
“We went there with no preposition paper, but to meet and discuss, but Ojukwu came with a prepared paper. This part got we rolling on the floor! Really? Morons leading a country, you went to a negotiation without papers, no plan, nothing just to discuss and probably eat and drink? Right! And yet this was a man that led Nigeria for like 5 years? How then can he negotiate better deals for Nigeria in international arena where he wouldn't have the advantage of declaring war on the country to get his way, simply because he failed at negotiations?*grins* So tell me now, who came to Aburi ready to negotiate for peace, hence prepared well by doing his home work, and who came with no plans of really negotiating, hoping to declare war later? |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 9:14pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
If Ojukwu believed in the Aburi accord, how come he decided to corner the oil assets meant for the whole country, simply because they were in the East, without informing the SMC or regional governments in other parts of the country, when it was agreed at Aburi that this would be the path through which major decisions would be taken?? The crude oil, coal and palm oil in the East belongs to the East, and not to Nigeria. Just as the Cocoa of the West belongs to the West And the groundnut of the North belongs to the East. Each region harvests it's resources and pay a token to the FG, according to the derivation formula. Other political decisions is to carried out by the centre, which in this case should now be the Supreme council. This is how our regionalism has been working, why should it be now changed? Because the East found oil, or because some people jettisoned their secession plans( Araba) because of the newly discovered Eastern region wealth, and would now die on top of it? Right. How can the Eastern oil wealth be meant for the whole country? Was the North tin ore made for the whole country? Was the East Coal made for the whole country, or do we have an existing derivation ration between the centre and the regions? |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 9:21pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
pazienza:You have NOT read the book, "yet you can smell lies?" Hehehe... wonders will never cease. What are you? Psychic? Or twisted?? Choose one. Thank God Uwechue was Igbo. Otherwise you would have dismissed him as part of the Arewa-Odua evil doers, fighting to exterminate your people. You do suffer from a persecution complex, judging by the way you describe other ethnic groups in Nigeria. Next you said,"Biafra was the people's choice." No one is arguing with that. But as a leader Ojukwu should have warned his people about the costs of going to war, the losses that would ensue and the hardship, pain and suffering that emanates from embarking on such a course of action. He should have told them that their proposed Biafra lacked adequate ammunition to protect them and that getting food would be difficult, if they decided to go to war. Instead, he chose to lead them to war. No problem. But why do the Igbo keep blaming other ethnic groups for all they lost in the war, since they were the ones that voluntarily embarked on the war, in the first place? ![]() At least on the Nigerian side, Adebayo the military governor of the Western region warned not just his own people, but also Ojukwu and his men on the devastating consequences that were likely to occur. "I need not tell you what horror, what devastation and what extreme human suffering will attend the use of force. When it is all over and the smoke and dust have lifted, and the dead are buried, we shall find, as other people have found, that it has all been futile, entirely futile, in solving the problems we set out to solve." Major-General Robert Adeyinka Adebayo, Military Governor of old Western Region 1966-1971 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Adeyinka_Adebayo#cite_note-6As for Nnamdi Kanu, you guys are free to do with him what you wish. If he decides to lead the Igbo into another unfortunate position, please do not go back to anyone to file any complaints. ![]() |
| Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by pazienza(m): 9:25pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored. By this part of agreement, the regions should run like they have been ran before the first coup. In other words, the regional control of regional resources, and 50-50 sharing formula between the regions and the Center returns. The only difference being that the Supreme council now serves as the center. Of course, Gowon didn't understand the implication of that part of the deal, right? He had inferior intellectual and mental capacity, yet he went to a negotiation table without a paper! Lol! |
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What are you? Psychic? Or twisted?? Choose one.