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Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Ichieboxy: 4:36am On Aug 12, 2015
arbitter:
So i take it youre pretending all the hate and bullshit igbos spew at other tribes on this forum, facebook, their radio biafra, various newsites comment sections is no biggie huh?

I cant open a single Vanguard article without seeing a flood of hate comments from igbos (and i know theyre igbo because they got their biafra flag as their pic ) or simply the name (for ldiots who comment with their facebook profiles).

If theres any hate being thrown at igbos then its practically a mirrored one. The originators of such hate is debatable but as far as im concerned you get the same treatment your fellows dish out on others so dont even try to play the victims here.
gringrin Let's not move away from topic...Using vanguard which you pointed here... its not pro Igbo though its pro PDP to some extent...But this cannot be compared to Punch, Osundefender etc ...I stopped patronising Punch simply because of such unjustified bias and celebration of hatred against my tribe even before Jonathan took over...

How old is radio Biafra and how old is BBC Hausa?...

Compare number of Yoruba folks who hide under Igbo moniker to denigrate Igbo or market APC or incite SS folks as against Igbo who do same...

How much respect does an average Yoruba man including you have for Igbo even when unprovoked...your comment alone shows the anger and hatred...byee
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 4:41am On Aug 12, 2015
arbitter:
So i take it youre pretending all the hate and bullshit igbos spew at other tribes on this forum, facebook, their radio biafra, various newsites comment sections is no biggie huh?

I cant open a single Vanguard article without seeing a flood of hate comments from igbos (and i know theyre igbo because they got their biafra flag as their pic ) or simply the name (for ldiots who comment with their facebook profiles).

If theres any hate being thrown at igbos then its practically a mirrored one. The originators of such hate is debatable but as far as im concerned you get the same treatment your fellows dish out on others so dont even try to play the victims here.
My dear I've seen insults from both ways: sometimes Igbos start the insults and Yorubas react or vice versa. Or Hausas vs Igbos etc I've seen it from all angles

However I've noticed that those that don't like Igbos are almost always same people that hate Jonathan also.
Why is that?
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Ichieboxy: 4:41am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
The bolded looks like a nice suggestion for my work. Permit my stealing in advance.lol
You're free dearie wink
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 6:08am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
My dear I've seen insults from both ways: sometimes Igbos start the insults and Yorubas react or vice versa. Or Hausas vs Igbos etc I've seen it from all angles

However I've noticed that those that don't like Igbos are almost always same people that hate Jonathan also.
Why is that?
op I did a search about Yoruba people on google...... This is what I got.....


If u don't believe me u can search for your self

Google "Yorubas are ........

Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 6:11am On Aug 12, 2015
On why yo-rubbers hate the igbos .....

Here is the cause

Hope no one will accuse google of been tribalistic ....

Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Kalvan: 6:16am On Aug 12, 2015
Lemon12:
op I did a search about Yoruba people on google...... This is what I got.....


If u don't believe me u can search for your self

Google "Yorubas are ........
Ibos are ritualists.
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 6:20am On Aug 12, 2015
Kalvan:
Ibos are ritualists.
shoro niyen!!?
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by owobokiri(m): 6:26am On Aug 12, 2015
sweetgala:
The fact remains that Jonathan traded in division and he hoped that he could profit from it.
There were over 4 million votes for Jonathan outside of SS and SE in the last election, so by that assertion over some 25% or more of total votes cast in the 2015 election.

But there has been an ethnic bitterness, especially the confrontation between the SW and the SE.

The SW are naturally very politically independent and lack a defined allegiance, when you think that as of 2009/2010 people like Tinubu were voicing their concern on how GEJ was about to be cheated out of the presidency, he received a great deal of votes subsequently in 2011 even thou ACN had a viable presidential candidate. Then came January 2012 and the subsidy removal, any sincere Nigerian knew PTMS subsidy had to go but the timing was wrong and the politically active SW was in a frenzy similar energisation of kano , Kaduna , PH. But even with the general feeling SE decided not to budge they suffered the consequences of and jeopardised the national consensus.

I think that whole decision of the SE to never say evil about the government even when it was glaring and needed criticism using our brother excuse.
You are all over the place with your random analyses. . How does the SE refusal to join the subsidy protest translate to a suppot for "evil"? And how can you extricate tribalism from the war against jonathan/igbos, when right from its formation, your APC made no pretenses as it regards her willingness to unleash a tribal gang up in a bid to hyjack power?

@ topic

Forcing an igbo identity on jonathan wasn't a coincidence. That was a major plank of APCs plan to arouse as much hate as possible from their base against jonathan. Those who crafted that plan were well aware of the wide-spread resentment of the igbo mans guts in the APC strongholds . Some of their internet hirelings can't locate the 'stop' button any more and so have gone overboard with their hate speaches, even after the presidential inauguration.
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by sweetgala(m): 8:54am On Aug 12, 2015
owobokiri:
You are all over the place with your random analyses. . How does the SE refusal to join the subsidy protest translate to a suppot for "evil"? And how can you extricate tribalism from the war against jonathan/igbos, when right from its formation, your APC made no pretenses as it regards her willingness to unleash a tribal gang up in a bid to hyjack power?

@ topic

Forcing an igbo identity on jonathan wasn't a coincidence. That was a major plank of APCs plan to arouse as much hate as possible from their base against jonathan. Those who crafted that plan were well aware of the wide-spread resentment of the igbo mans guts in the APC strongholds . Some of their internet hirelings can't locate the 'stop' button any more and so have gone overboard with their hate speaches, even after the presidential inauguration.
Last I checked APC did all it could to romance APGA which has a very strong following in SE;

Appart from Lagos, Abuha and Daura , IMO state was the most visited place by Buhari during the last election before he was sworn in.

I never said their actions were evil if you took time to read correctly you'd know, I spoke of their determination to " never speak evil" it is used to describe a situation where someone is never criticized even when committing the worst sins.

The SE decided to set themselves apart, when the Stella Oduah incident happened, I can remember the division on NL and even in Media, all the Igbo saw an embattled Igbo saint (our sister , our daughter syndrome), most everyone else saw the information and thought guilty as accused based on information.

The SE separated itself from reason , with that our daughter/ our son syndrome, e.g some of Tinubu fiercest critics are from SW and likewise for other regions, Awo did a lot , never stopped Adegoke 'Penkelemessi' Adelabu criticizing him, that is true nationalism and self analysis.

Already you have associated the frantic removal of PDP and GEJ as an attack on SE and SS , rather than a battle to remove bad governance, you don't think they deserve to be there because all they are to you "born to rule almajiri and their South West gambari"; you deny that and your soul be with the grim reaper today. Don't come here playing victim I have no tears for you.

APC had a good primary and showed us a good variety, Atiku, Kwankwaso, Buhari and Rochas all receiving repectable votes, but we all knew the man who was right for the job was Buhari and the delegates choose right. The SE inferiority complex is what makes them believe APC are not deserving of the FG.

To denounce the ill feeling and bad atmosphere in the Nigerian society between Jan 2012 and April 2015 would be calous; but that is all you are doing, dismissing the plight of the poor, their helplessness, their desire to be rid of corruption, APC are a political party of odd bedfellows true, but they brought an overdue promise of change, don't accuse the sick of seeking health.

APC is what we have now because they promised a better option, GEJ stopped inspiring Nigerians a long time ago, he might have done lots in your eyes but once he sowed that seed of bitterness on January 1, 2012 there was no going back for some people.
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by sweetgala(m):
owobokiri:
@ topic

Forcing an igbo identity on jonathan wasn't a coincidence. That was a major plank of APCs plan to arouse as much hate as possible from their base against jonathan. Those who crafted that plan were well aware of the wide-spread resentment of the igbo mans guts in the APC strongholds . Some of their internet hirelings can't locate the 'stop' button any more and so have gone overboard with their hate speaches, even after the presidential inauguration.
Since you have decided to absolve GEaj of previous episodes of foolishness I'll remind you

"You have remained a pillar of support for my administration; you have indeed given me greater support than any other ethnic group in the country. I want to also assure you that I will not take your support for granted"GEJ, September 2013 igbo day , you might want to read the full speech including


"Whether they like it or not, we remain the largest ethnic
group in Nigeria. Ohaneze made it clear three years ago that we will seek the presidency immediately after the South-south would have completed its unbroken tenure whether in 2015 or 2019.

The grand delusion of the Igbo is why they though that 30% of the population can outvotr the remaining 70%

PDP were a problem, but GEJ exposed that problem, he lacked tact, OBJ is a criminal , he brought an unskilled , politically incompetent man to VP and then watched destiny unfold as Yar'adua died and then tried to bully GEJ into a godfather/servant relationship.

Of all the regions in Nigeria the SW and Yoruba were the only truly divided zone, with loud vocal support for both candidates,issue based support without ethnic sentiment and not once in his four years did Jonathan embrace the true voting block in SW the masses, he never appreciated their support in 2011 vocally, he though well I can always send dollars to their kings and power men and that would be it.

The Yoruba might like money buy they also have enough pride to take your money and still do as their heart pleases
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by SOUNDKING: 9:16am On Aug 12, 2015
Jona is hated by the people who felt that Nigeria is their birth right,and their slaved have no choice,Igbos are hated by the born to rule ppl because they are progressive and hardworking,and theirs slaves are left with no choice.
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by change49ja: 9:20am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
My take is that if Igbos are guilty of supporting Jonathan's every move, pro Buharists are already guilty of same.
Personally there are one or two things so far that Buhari has done that may not be right, but I'm yet to see how many pro Buharists that don't defend each of them.
So dont u think u lack the moral right to condemn Igbos for doing exactly the same thing u're doing today? No? That's btw though


So are u saying Igbos are hated because of Jonathan
Or Jonathan is hated because of Igbos?
OP check below the topic I created less than one month after Buhari was sworn in and you'll have an idea of the type of person I am. I'm not an hypocrite who hides behind his/her keyboard just to dish out trashes.

Believe it or not, Yorubas are strongly watching Buhari and they're taking notes. If they don't spare their own, they won't spare Buhari if he starts to misbehave, trust me. This is one thing I like about the Yorubas. They're not two-faced people.

You see, the truth is people don't hate Igbos....I honestly don't know where you get that from. Yes, there have been distrusts and all that in the past but life goes on.

And if truly you're conducting a research, I'll advice you to go on the street as well and not to base your final submission on Nairaland alone which I think you're already doing.

https://www.nairaland.com/2405122/dear-president-buhari-3months-enough
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by ERockson: 9:32am On Aug 12, 2015
@op Cant you see that almost the same people hating Tinubu hate Yoruba and are using different media to propagate it. There is no difference btw you and ur project supervisor. Stop the victim card game and do a meaningful project research
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by sweetgala(m):
Ichieboxy:
1)How much respect does Fayose enjoy from Yoruba including elites like falana, Soyinka simply because he's pro PDP?...Hypocrisy defines most of you here...

2)Facts are sacred bro...Yoruba have proven beyond reasonable doubt to be chief tribalists in Nigeria and can NEVER vote anybody outside their tribe in elections...Otherwise can you compare Obj 4years and Jonathan 4yearshuh...yet Yoruba supported Obj for 2nd term notwithstanding buhari was contesting...

3)Let me end by showing you how Yoruba has been voting along tribal line since independence (facts are sacred bro)...Quit denigrating other tribes especially Igbo to cover your lies and ethnic bias...

The South-West zone has 14,296,163 registered voters, which represents 19.44% of the total number of voters nationwide. In terms of national electoral strength, the zone is number 2. Taking into account the electoral behaviour of the South-West since independence, the zone has proven itself, without exception, of incapable of voting anyone other than its own.

In the 1st Republic, it voted mainly Action Group in favour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo with about 69% voters’ turnout.

In the 2nd Republic, it voted 78.75% of its total votes cast for UPN in favour of Chief Awolowo, with 70% voters’ turnout.

In the June 12, 1993 presidential election, the pattern was repeated more or less the same, except that the total percentage of SDP’s votes in favour of Chief MKO Abiola
rose up to 84.5% in the zone.

In the 1999 presidential election, mainly because the only
two candidates for the presidency were both from the South-West, the zone’s voters’ turnout was abysmally low (48.09%) with about 68% of the votes cast to APP in favour of Chief Olu Falaye. 2003 also recorded poor voters’ turnout with 71% of votes cast for Obasanjo’s PDP.

In 2011, with no Southwestern candidate fielded by any of the major parties, the South-West voted PDP when a functional alliance with the CPC failed to field in Sen. Tinubu or his nominee. Besides, with the vicious experience of AD in 2003 when the PDP Federal Government uprooted its governments in five states of the zone, the South-West cannot now afford to risk having an opposition PDP government at the federal level again; certainly not after the hard pains and toils of forming the APC. It is therefore existential for the South-West to vote APC at the presidential election.

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and-why-pdp-will-lose
Forget the falana and Yoruba leaders opinion for a minute, the Yoruba might respect their leaders but it is not beyond our cultural respect for elders.

If you have been to ekiti you would see how his people love him, last I checked they are Yoruba. The respect many astute Yoruba lack for Fayose is because he is rude, loud and behave like tout, as opposed to how the ekiti are perceived to be meek and humble, speaking softly. They don't hate him because he supports PDP.

Yes the vast amount of SW like APC because they beleive Pa Awolowo ideas can only truly be realised through ACN now a major part of APC

But when you look at SW , you'll see a spread of party affiliation , PDP have had no less than 10 state governors, several senators since 1999

2- Your assertions on the Yoruba voting patern has shown that you are both ethnically bigoted and poorly researched or just have a sinister intention

when OBJ first ran in 1999 his primary opposition came from AD Olu Falae with his main critics being his fellow Yoruba like Bola Ige etc Falae received massive support form SW because he was a direct Awolowo confidant , OBJ had massive support in his core area of Ogun state,

2003 was just a drab election, it was rigged by PDP up north but there was no real opposition, OBJ did a good enough job of satisfying everyone, he cuddles the north, did enough in the SW and never forgot the SE. He was returned without much effort

In 2007 , the SW did not have a strong presidential presentation and most SW voted for Yar'adua he was seen as clean and pure while his brother who was close to OBJ and Bola Ige was assassinated by Abacha

Come 2011 and GEJ was the heart trob of the SW he was the shoeless man from Otuoke , gentle and blessed with luck, he even knelt down in RCCG for divine blessing, I'll recommend you look at the voting stats from 2011 presidential election, ACN had Nuhu Ribadu who by all means is a very competent hand.

Jonathan problems with SW began January 1, 2012 and as long as PDP do not accept that fact, people would remain confused as to how he lost.

Since you have shown the voting pattern of the SW, why didn't you as a comparison benchmark show that of the SE and NC
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by tsdarkside(m): 9:40am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
Good morning nlers,

I've bn observing nl politics section for sometime now. There's this trend I've noticed on this section. Once I see a moniker that displays deep hatred for Igbos, it usually turns out to be that the same moniker shows deep hatred for Jonathan too. By that I mean, the person never sees anything good about Jonathan just like they don't see anything good about Igbos.

Is it safe to say that the hatred for Jonathan attract hatred for Igbos or the hatred for Igbos attract the hatred for Jonathan. Is there a possibility that these two can be mutually exclusive?

I know this is an annonymous forum but please This is a research topic for me and I need honest answers. I need as many comments as possible so I can conclude my work.
I also hope to find anyone in the missing category so I can get their opinion on this too.

Thanks guys
its not true.....if i were igbo,i would still not like jonathan,my soul dont like failure,no matter who it is.......
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by change49ja: 9:45am On Aug 12, 2015
ERockson:
@op Cant you see that almost the same people hating Tinubu hate Yoruba and are using different media to propagate it. There is no difference btw you and ur project supervisor. Stop the victim card game and do a meaningful project research
You're so on point. Is like asking if there is Any Correlation Between The Hate For Tinubu And That For Yorubas?

Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 9:47am On Aug 12, 2015
change49ja:
You're so on point. Is like asking if there is Any Correlation Between The Hate For Tinubu And That For Yorubas?
That could be a topic however, remember that Tinubu is Yoruba also
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by change49ja: 9:52am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
That could be a topic however, remember that Tinubu is Yoruba also
Can I ask you why most Igbos on Nairaland hates Gov. Okorocha?
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 9:53am On Aug 12, 2015
change49ja:
OP check below the topic I created less than one month after Buhari was sworn in and you'll have an idea of the type of person I am. I'm not an hypocrite who hides behind his/her keyboard just to dish out trashes.

Believe it or not, Yorubas are strongly watching Buhari and they're taking notes. If they don't spare their own, they won't spare Buhari if he starts to misbehave, trust me. This is one thing I like about the Yorubas. They're not two-faced people.

You see, the truth is people don't hate Igbos....I honestly don't know where you get that from. Yes, there have been distrusts and all that in the past but life goes on.

And if truly you're conducting a research, I'll advice you to go on the street as well and not to base your final submission on Nairaland alone which I think you're already doing.

https://www.nairaland.com/2405122/dear-president-buhari-3months-enough
Good morning sir,
On a joking but a serious note, you're not in the class being researched here.
I don't see you dish out insults on Jonathan neither have I seen u insult the Igbos.
If everyone plays politics the way you(personally) do, I believe Nigeria will be a better place.

You're truly one of a kind here and will be duly noted in my work.
Thanks a lot
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 10:05am On Aug 12, 2015
change49ja:
Can I ask you why most Igbos on Nairaland hates Gov. Okorocha
How will I know? But a lot of Igbos didn't(doesn't) like anything APC
APC never saw anything good in Jonathan . Jonathan's best moves were seen by APC as clueless. lol which is why people like Okorocha or Ngige that were supporting APC with reason or no reason are hated among their people

You can argue that 'right or wrong' steps by any administration is relative. What seems right to me, may appear wrong to you. But I guess the end would justify the means.
For example, when GEJ sought the help of other countries to fight BH, APC condemned his move in the strongest terms but what's happening today?

Funny the same people that insulted GEJ are now the ones praising Buhari for doing same. This is why many people(mostly opposition) believe that APC simply thrived on propaganda.

So for Igbos, Okorocha doesn't represent their interest hence Okorocha may not be loved by them anytime soon. Lol

This is my unbiased submission
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by psychu: 10:13am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
You're not the first person to allude to the bolded on this thread

If Jonathan is tagged igbo simply because he's neither Hausa nor Yoruba, does that mean Nigeria only recognizes three tribes?

If it is about tribe, what tribe is Jonathan? What happens to other tribes in the southern part of Nigeria? What's their place in Nigeria politics?
Yes, there is always generalisation and stereotypical association..There are different ethnic groups in the north but being Muslim from the north and able to communicate in Hausa makes them one. While the rest are the other. In Nigeria, on the streets of the major cities I have been to, You are either Aboki, inyamiri, ofe mmanu, or Omo Igbo.
By the way another thought you should factor...from my personal experience, socially and professionally, all Nigerians I have met show a level of tribal sentiment no matter how highly placed..It is called the unconscious bias. Our brain judge people quickly by the name or appearance before we get to know them. It takes years of self awareness and conscious practice to purge yourself of this. You can run a little experiment to confirm this fact, send a cv bearing a typical Igbo name and Yoruba name with the same qualification to an Igbo or Yoruba HR. Let it be the same qualifications but alter the arrangement and some other details, check the candidate that will be picked..
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 10:25am On Aug 12, 2015
psychu:
Yes, there is always generalisation and stereotypical association..There are different ethnic groups in the north but being Muslim from the north and able to communicate in Hausa makes them one. While the rest are the other. In Nigeria, on the streets of the major cities I have been to, You are either Aboki, inyamiri, ofe mmanu, or Omo Igbo.
By the way another thought you should factor...from my personal experience, socially and professionally, all Nigerians I have met show a level of tribal sentiment no matter how highly placed..It is called the unconscious bias. Our brain judge people quickly by the name or appearance before we get to know them. It takes years of self awareness and conscious practice to purge yourself of this. You can run a little experiment to confirm this fact, send a cv bearing a typical Igbo name and Yoruba name with the same qualification to an Igbo or Yoruba HR. Let it be the same qualifications but alter the arrangement and some other details, check the candidate that will be picked..
The bolded looks like the main reason for this topic sef.
Imagine how other southern tribes feel when they're tagged as Igbos because they're neither Yoruba nor Hausas.smh



As per tribal sentiment, I agree with you 100%
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by yak(m): 10:38am On Aug 12, 2015
We av bn so divided by our fore-fathers before woes of war and lack of studies in Nigerian history dd d worst. Nigerian education system refused to tell us our story, so our parents dd. As long as am concerned, we need to 'go back before we move forward'. Memories of Nigerian civil war need to b wiped. NYSC,Unity schools, federal universities and such other plastic measures av failed. It's time to open d wound cos its decaying in d bandage.open d wound, let it pain us and smell once n heal.
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 10:47am On Aug 12, 2015
yak:
We av bn so divided by our fore-fathers before woes of war and lack of studies in Nigerian history dd d worst. Nigerian education system refused to tell us our story, so our parents dd. As long as am concerned, we need to 'go back before we move forward'. Memories of Nigerian civil war need to b wiped. NYSC,Unity schools, federal universities and such other plastic measures av failed. It's time to open d wound cos its decaying in d bandage.open d wound, let it pain us and smell once n heal.
Agreed.
I honestly don't know Nigeria history either.
I just know there was such thing as civil war but no details
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by change49ja: 10:49am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
Good morning sir,
On a joking but a serious note, you're not in the class being researched here.
I don't see you dish out insults on Jonathan neither have I seen u insult the Igbos.
If everyone plays politics the way you(personally) do, I believe Nigeria will be a better place.

You're truly one of a kind here and will be duly noted in my work.
Thanks a lot
Thanks for your kind words. I believe we're all one before God. So let's continue to preach love and not hate irrespective of our tribe, religion, ethnic or political background/affiliations. God is Love.
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Nobody: 10:56am On Aug 12, 2015
change49ja:
Thanks for your kind words. I believe we're all one before God. So let's continue to preach love and not hate irrespective of our tribe, religion, ethnic or political background/affiliations. God is Love.
I'll Try
Isn't it ironical that Nigeria is so religious with churches, temples, mosques etc everywhere(motor parks, luxurious buses, on the street, molue) . Turn right or left n behold a place of worship, yet no love
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Ichieboxy: 11:02am On Aug 12, 2015
sweetgala:
Forget the falana and Yoruba leaders, the Yoruba might respect their leaders but it is not beyond our cultural respect for elders.

If you have been to ekiti you would see how his people love him, last I checked they are Yoruba. The respect many astute Yoruba lack for Fayose is because he is rude, loud and behave like tout, as opposed to how the ekiti asre perceived to be meek and humble, speaking softly. They don't hate him because he supports PDP. Yes the vast amount of SW like APC because they beleive Pa Awolowo ideas can only truly be realised through ACN now a major part of APC

But when you look at SW , you'll see a spread of party affiliation , PDP have had no less than 10 state governors, several senators.

2- Your assertions on the Yoruba voting patern has shown that you are both ethnically bigoted and poorly researched or just have a sinister intention

when OBJ first ran in 1999 his primary opposition came from AD Olu Falae with his main critics being his fellow Yoruba like Bola Ige etc Falae received massive support form SW because he was a direct Awolowo confidant , OBJ had massive support in his core area of Ogun state,

2003 was just a drab election, it was rigged by PDP up north but there was no real opposition, OBJ did a good enough job of satisfying everyone, he cuddles the north, did enough in the SW and never forgot the SE. He was returned without much effort

In 2007 , the SW did not have a strong presidential presentation and most SW voted for Yar'adua he was seems s clean and pure while his brother who was close to OBJ and Bola Ige was assassinated by Abacha

Come 2011 and GEJ was the heart trob of the SW he was the shoeless man from Otuoke , gentle and blessed with luck, he even knelt down in RCCG for divine blessing, I'll recommend you look at the voting stats from 2011 presidential election, ACN had Nuhu Ribadu who by all means is a very competent hand.

Jonathan problems with SW began January 1, 2012 and as long as PDP do not accept that fact, people would remain confused as to how he lost.

Since you have shown the voting pattern of the SW, why didn't you as a comparison benchmark show that is the SE and NC
1)Your first statement makes a nonsense of all you wrote including realities on ground...Was Awolowo a cultural leader? Akintola nko?...Tinubu?...Fayose?...Aregnesola?...but they all enjoy cult like following in Yoruba land...

2)Fayose is hated by all Yoruba outside ekiti because he's PDP...They don't even see anything wrong in APC that's looting them dry and mortgaging them through unending borrowing with NO sustainable project on ground...If fayose is a tout; what is aregnesola that jumps on buses and throw money aroundhuh

3)I already showed you SW voting pattern which is along ethnic line since independence... No other region has that record...they are the real bigots but they rush to point fingers at others...They voted against Obj because another Yoruba man was there...I challenge you to provide counter evidence...

4)Kindly tell me Obj projects in SE especially his first term...even his 8yrs...

5)SW votes ONLY their son in elections since independence...

6)Why not research on SE yourself....Do you need expohuh...SE voted against NRC in 1992/3 who had Igbo running mate...SE voted against buhari both in 2003(ANPP); & 2007(ANPP);notwithstanding he had Igbo running mates(Ezeoke & Okadigbo)...SE voted against Ojukwu(APGA) for PDP in 2003(Obj) & 2007(Yar'adua)...etc...

7)Forget the noise from your people to cover up...They are the chief bigots we have in Nigeria...They vote "ONLY OUR SON" whether he's good or bad...eg Comparing Obj 4yrs to Jonathan 4yrs is like comparing death & sleep....Jonathan was far better yet SW voted overwhelmingly for Obj 2nd term....FACTS ARE SACRED bro...cheesy
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by change49ja: 11:14am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
I'll Try
Isn't it ironical that Nigeria is so religious with churches, temples, mosques etc everywhere(motor parks, luxurious buses, on the street, molue) . Turn right or left n behold a place of worship, yet no love
That's right...our problem is that, many claim to serve God and love God by attending churches, mosques etc and yet, they come on Nairaland, hide behind their laptops, phones, ipads etc to spread hates between christians and Muslims, Muslims and Traditionalists, Christians and Traditionalists, Atheists and Christians, Atheist and Muslims, Yorubas and Igbos, Igbos and Hausas, Yorubas and Ijaws, Ijaws and Igbos, Hausas and Yorubas, Fulanis and Igbos, Yorubas and Fulanis, APC vs PDP, APC vs APGA, PDP vs APGA, Ekiti vs Lagos, Anambra vs Imo, Kano vs Kaduna, SW vs SE, SS v NE and so on, and so forth.

You see, the truth is that, people are still feeling the pain of the past like someone rightly said and, until we move on from the past, we'll continue to see these kind of things
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Ichieboxy: 11:19am On Aug 12, 2015
Kalvan:
Ibos are ritualists.
This thread will help your claim...go through it all...wink
https://www.nairaland.com/2508394/ogun-police-ordered-shoot-at-sight-cultists
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Ichieboxy: 11:28am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
That could be a topic however, remember that Tinubu is Yoruba also
Is tinubu a president?...so what does his influence do outside SW?...Can his influence win councilorship in north or SE?...So why make him a case study here?...so why should someone down South or up north hate Yoruba because of him?...it defies common sense and logic...
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Ichieboxy: 11:41am On Aug 12, 2015
change49ja:
Can I ask you why most Igbos on Nairaland hates Gov. Okorocha?
I hate Rochas because he's a failure in governance and is intoxicated by power...

1)Imo state receives HIGHEST federal allocation in SE being an oil producing state...Add 13%oil derivation fund...ecological fund...NDDC intervention fund...Min of ND intervention fund etc...Where's Imo state today with all these moneyhuh...

2)Imo state under Rochas has gone bankrupt...and declared insolvent by CBN...what sustainable project did he embark on to cause the state such financial harmhuh...

3)Imo state has its LGA bastardized under Rocha's... notwithstanding they won him in court...he refused to implement court ruling till date...why should I not hate him?...

4)Rochas formed 4th tier government which is unconstitutional while 3rd tier is dead and comatose...what kinda of confusion is that?...does he deserve my love with this?...

5)Rochas owes salaries notwithstanding he has HIGHEST allocation in SE...education has collapsed with his quantitative free education with NO QUALITY... why should I love him?...

6)Should I continue?...No state in SE has such bad record not even Abia state under TA Orji...who paid salaries, developed Umuahia but abandoned others to their fate...and NEVER had such debt as Imo state...Rochas wants to produce Osun state out of Imo state...thanks
Re: Attention!!!!!!!!!!!Any Correlation Btw The Hate For Jonathan And That For Igbos by Ichieboxy: 11:47am On Aug 12, 2015
AuntySusan:
Good morning sir,
On a joking but a serious note, you're not in the class being researched here.
I don't see you dish out insults on Jonathan neither have I seen u insult the Igbos.
If everyone plays politics the way you(personally) do, I believe Nigeria will be a better place.

You're truly one of a kind here and will be duly noted in my work.
Thanks a lot
Have gone through ALL the posts here...

1)Lots of lies, half-truth, and truths...

2)Be smart enough to sieve out the chaff from the wheat...

3)The guy you quoted could be one of those multi moniker folks here...Some have over 10monikers...it is common among them...Usage depends on scenario and intention...

Enjoy your work...I'm tired of countering lies here...
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