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Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:40am On Aug 12, 2015
Houston, We Have a Problem: Video Shows Hillsong's Brian Houston Knew About Open 'Gays' in Choir
August 11, 2015 | Filed under: Apostasy,Life & Society,Top Stories | By: Heather Clark

A video has surfaced online showing that Hillsong leader Brian Houston knew about two openly homosexual men serving as choir members at least one year ago—and did not seem to have a problem with it—despite his recent claims that it was a "complete surprise" for him to learn that two men at Hillsong's New York campus had become "engaged."

Houston was interviewed on ABC’s "Nightline" in November 2014, and made the remarks when asked about how Hillsong would handle homosexual members.

"If a gay couple came to Hillsong, would you want them to change?" the reporter asked.

"The short answer is that I think all of us need to be changing. That's what serving Jesus does—we're changing," Houston replied. "Apparently—someone told me—there's two gay guys singing in the choir in New York."

He said that Hillsong doesn't inquire about member's lifestyles before they join the choir.

"We'd never be the kind of church that when people join the choir, we ask them, 'Are you heterosexual? Are you homosexual?'" Houston explained. "We'd be the kind of church that focuses on Jesus [and] believes in the power of the Holy Spirit to convict. I think it was Billy Graham who said, "It’s the Holy Spirit's job to convict. It's God's job to judge. And it's our job to love."

"I think that's a good way of looking at it," he continued. "Let God be the judge. Let the Holy Spirit do the conviction. And we do the loving of people."

Houston had claimed last week in a public statement that it was a "complete surprise" for him to learn that two men in the choir had become engaged, and that the revelation was "unexpected."

As previously reported, Josh Canfield, a Broadway performer, told Playbill in January that he had become engaged to his boyfriend, Reed Kelly. He outlined that he is a choir director at Hillsong New York City and that he had admitted his homosexuality to his church.

"[I thought], 'I need to be truthful with everyone,'" Canfield said. "I became truthful with my church. I'm a part of Hillsong NYC. I'm one of their choir directors. I also sing on their worship team."

But he stated that after coming out to his congregation, "nothing changed."

"They've been amazing as well," Canfield explained. "Nothing has changed there now that I'm completely out and with Reed. He sings in the choir as well."

Last week, a blog reported about the information afresh, lamenting that Hillsong New York City, led by Carl Lentz, "allow[s] an openly and unrepentantly gay couple to lead their choir." The post went viral, generating concern from Christians nationwide.

Following the attention to the matter, Hillsong leader Brian Houston issued a statement about the situation, asserting that both men are no longer in the choir.

"I wish to correct reports that Hillsong church has 'an openly gay couple directing a choir' at our New York City campus," Houston wrote. He said that Hillsong was "surprised" to hear about the men's engagement, and that they haven't been involved in ministry since the announcement.

"Several months ago when one of our choir directors made an unexpected public statement regarding his engagement to a man who sometimes sang in the choir, it was a complete surprise to us as well," he said. "It is my understanding that they have not been involved in an active leadership or ministry role since."

But on Friday, Canfield and Kelly likewise released a statement, contradicting Houston's assertion and outlining that they have been serving at Hillsong NYC for years despite being known as being homosexuals. They said that the news reports of their ministry roles at the church had now suddenly "forced" the church to "disallow any gays from being in a position of leadership."

"The drama that is unfolding at the moment all revolves around the fact that we have been heavily involved in our church, Hillsong NYC," Canfield and Kelly wrote.

"Josh has been with Hillsong for eight years in a variety of ways: choir director, vocal director, and worship team. I've been there since the beginning of our relationship, over three years ago, and eventually began singing in the choir and opening my apartment as the gathering place for a connect group for Hillsong members in the Broadway and theatrical communities," the men continued. "We have been open and forthright about our relationship from the get-go."

But they said that once the report came out and there was backlash over the matter, it "has now forced our church to globally reaffirm their hard stance as a non-LGBT-affirming institution and disallow any gays from being in a position of leadership within the church."


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Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Ralp817: 12:44pm On Aug 12, 2015
So what? If your choir svcks its because there are no gay people in it

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Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Nobody: 12:57pm On Aug 12, 2015
Isn't Kumuyi Gay?
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by plaetton: 1:03pm On Aug 12, 2015
Olaadegbu's obsession with "gay" leads me suspect that he is a man with perhaps some or many skeletons in his own closet.

It is a classic psychological projection syndrome.

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Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by vooks: 7:40pm On Aug 12, 2015
ifeness:
Isn't Kumuyi Gay?
He is a cross-dressing transvestite. Happy?
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Nobody: 10:30pm On Aug 12, 2015
plaetton:
Olaadegbu's obsession with "gay" leads me suspect that he is a man with perhaps some or many skeletons in his own closet.

It is a classic psychological projection syndrome.

Perhaps he is beginning to fancy men too. It's not a bad thing and I hope he can open up more.

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Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:21pm On Aug 13, 2015
Ralp817:


So what? If your choir svcks its because there are no gay people in it

Really? undecided
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Gospels: 4:35am On Aug 14, 2015
ifeness:
Isn't Kumuyi Gay?
plz whats your evidence or are you trying to pull up a stunt here cause there are somethings not worth joking on in other to avoid the wrath of GOD
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Nobody: 5:55am On Aug 14, 2015
MOST choirs have a good number of their male as gay people (and I'm surely not kidding), so kini big deal??
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by adexsimply(m): 7:19am On Aug 14, 2015
So what?
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by mekus15: 1:00pm On Aug 14, 2015
ifeness:
Isn't Kumuyi Gay?
Please respect the man of God.
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:18pm On Aug 14, 2015
plaetton:


Olaadegbu's obsession with "gay" leads me suspect that he is a man with perhaps some or many skeletons in his own closet.

It is a classic psychological projection syndrome.

If we are to follow your line of reasoning, what would my 'obsession' with debating evolutionists, theist evolutionists, progressive creationists, atheists, agnostics, cultists, JW's, Mormons, Catholics, Muslims, traditionalists, humanists, abortionists, anti-tithers, anti-trinitarians, antinomianists make me? undecided

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Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:19pm On Aug 14, 2015
ifeness:


Perhaps he is beginning to fancy men too. It's not a bad thing and I hope he can open up more.

You cannot think crooked and walk 'straight'. shocked
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:22pm On Aug 14, 2015
Gospels:


plz whats your evidence or are you trying to pull up a stunt here cause there are somethings not worth joking on in other to avoid the wrath of GOD

You just have to ignore ifeness or rather pray for him because he needs help.
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:24pm On Aug 14, 2015
masonkz:


MOST choirs have a good number of their male as gay people (and I'm surely not kidding), so kini big deal??

Are you speaking out of experience or hearsay?
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:26pm On Aug 14, 2015
adexsimply:


So what?

Is this what happens in your church or you see no problem with this? undecided
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:27pm On Aug 14, 2015
mekus15:


Please respect the man of God.

Ifeness neither respects his own father nor the Almighty God.
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Nobody: 6:43pm On Aug 14, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Are you speaking out of experience or hearsay?

I know my people, and my people know me grin grin
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by adexsimply(m): 6:59pm On Aug 14, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Is this what happens in your church or you see no problem with this? undecided
I don't have a church and I see no problem with it undecided
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Nobody: 9:57pm On Aug 14, 2015
Gospels:
plz whats your evidence or are you trying to pull up a stunt here cause there are somethings not worth joking on in other to avoid the wrath of GOD

I will give you evidence Kumuyi is gay if you give me evidence of your silly God.
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:06am On Aug 15, 2015
masonkz:


I know my people, and my people know me grin grin

Who are your people?
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:07am On Aug 15, 2015
adexsimply:


I don't have a church and I see no problem with it undecided

Are you a Christian?
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Nobody: 7:33am On Aug 15, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Who are your people?

I don't think I have to spell everything out for you...figure it out yourself.


Bye.
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by adexsimply(m): 7:35am On Aug 15, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Are you a Christian?
I'm not a Christian.
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Gospels: 7:42am On Aug 15, 2015
ifeness:


I will give you evidence Kumuyi is gay if you give me evidence of your silly God.
okay i would give you evidence of God existence as you can see that he created heaven and earth thereof with the beautiful things u see thereof or do u tink the earth just came through this nonsense theory the scientist called big bang come young man think again before its late at least nw hv bin able to convince u and nt to confuse so i would like to hear ur evidence of kumuyi being what u said he is
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Nobody: 8:28am On Aug 15, 2015
Gospels:
okay i would give you evidence of God existence as you can see that he created heaven and earth thereof with the beautiful things u see thereof or do u tink the earth just came through this nonsense theory the scientist called big bang come young man think again before its late at least nw hv bin able to convince u and nt to confuse so i would like to hear ur evidence of kumuyi being what u said he is

Creation/Evolution is a continuous process which is still taking place and will continue to take place for eternity. If you look at the world we live in today,you will see that this year is a lot different to the 1960s. Internet,Mobile phones has affected our evolution and awareness in a huge way and we humans are the ones responsible for it,not an unknown lonely God masturbating in the sky. All the beautiful things you see are the works of men.

Nature itself is harsh and without consideration for life. Man on the other hand has learned how to survive alongside nature and that's what is speeding up evolution.

You can always claim there is a God up there,but you will never have evidence....because you have been ill-educated. Kumuyi is still gay.

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Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:56am On Aug 15, 2015
adexsimply:


I'm not a Christian.

What are you then?
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by adexsimply(m): 9:43am On Aug 15, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


What are you then?
Human. Just like you smiley

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Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:28pm On Aug 15, 2015
adexsimply:


Human. Just like you smiley

I'm not a humanist 'am a Christian. smiley
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by dolphinheart(m): 5:37pm On Aug 15, 2015
ifeness:


Creation/Evolution is a continuous process which is still taking place and will continue to take place for eternity. If you look at the world we live in today,you will see that this year is a lot different to the 1960s. Internet,Mobile phones has affected our evolution and awareness in a huge way and we humans are the ones responsible for it,not an unknown lonely God masturbating in the sky. All the beautiful things you see are the works of men.

Nature itself is harsh and without consideration for life. Man on the other hand has learned how to survive alongside nature and that's what is speeding up evolution.

You can always claim there is a God up there,but you will never have evidence....because you have been ill-educated. Kumuyi is still gay.


To evolutionists: which came first, the Chiken or the egg?.
When man discovers things, does it mean that such things has not been in existence before the discovery ?

Look at ur body, was it designed or it came about by chance?

Nature is harsh? Without the earth moving at its speed round the sun, its rotation on its axis , its perfect distance from the sun, do you think there will be man on earth?

Whithout the moon, its perfect distance, speed and weight, do you thing man will be on earth?

Can man survive without the sea?.

Does the electromagnetic field around the earth come by chance or is it designed?

Look at the protection the higher atmosphere give man, animals and plants, is it designed to do such or it came by chance?
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by Nobody: 5:41pm On Aug 15, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


I'm not a humanist 'am a Christian. smiley

Common English, you can't comprehend also.

He said he's human, how did the "humanist" part come into your post?

Psst
Re: Video Shows Hillsongs Brian Houston Knew About Open Gays In Choir by adexsimply(m): 5:53pm On Aug 15, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


I'm not a humanist 'am a Christian. smiley
I'm glad that you're a Christian and you're also a human like me. So we are good bro, ain't we?
PS. I never mentioned humanist so why would you tell me you're not a humanist?

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