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musKeeto:
A - Can I rephrase that to say 'Our ability to know right from wrong is evidence of God'? Could you elucidate a bit what this quote means? What is considered right/wrong varies across different numerous tribes/regions around the world. Can this be said to be evidence of multiple Gods? Are all humans born with the same concept/understanding of morality? Note similarity doesn't necessarily mean same.

B - And WHO has claimed nature 'gave' us a conscience?

I believe morality, and in turn conscience, is modelled and shaped by societies/environments one might find himself in.

This guy you didnt answer my question . Why did nature think it right to give us conscience ? A much better explanation - how did man gain conscience through the course of evolution

dalaman:
How have you demonstrated that conscience came from God. By the way which of the Gods out of the many that were invented by men?

The one that agrees with me that something came from nothing and begat everything . You like that god huh

winner01:
Darwin also established that humans developed from apes with "evidence", and i should buy that because......
some Animals communicate in their own way and get more impressive when trained...fact still remains that there is no moral code in animals, but some can be taught to do impressive things. It still does not signify conscience...
You should give your own study not another persons, if you want mine. And kindly extend your study to other animals.

Dont mind that man, dala. he dont know what conscience mean. he is on a state of confusion.

musKeeto:
Hehee. I'm fine o. My sonoflucifer experience changed me. People will believe any sort of nonsense.

Am seeing you as a confused atheist/satanist. you have no place to perch.

Great0:
Am seeing you as a confused atheist/satanist. you have no place to perch.

Im atheist. I was never a satanist. Figure it out.

KingEbukasBlog:
This guy you didnt answer my question . Why did nature think it right to give us conscience ? A much better explanation - how did man gain conscience through the course of evolution

You've made a claim I don't remember making. You say nature gave man conscience. Who taught you that?

You are the one who believes in all knowing God. Maybe you should ask Him those questions.

KingEbukasBlog:
This guy you didnt answer my question . Why did nature think it right to give us conscience ? A much better explanation - how did man gain conscience through the course of evolution

This goes back to the money question, who was the first quantum observer ever? There were two of them, Nature and Time. Somehow the actions of these two resulted in an explosion, and the number of observers has been steadily increasing since.

Why did nature give us a conscience? Because the b.itch already had an internal method of telling bad from good.

Weah96:
This goes back to the money question, who was the first quantum observer ever? There were two of them, Nature and Time. Somehow the actions of these two resulted in an explosion, and the number of observers has been steadily increasing since.

Why did nature give us a conscience? Because the b.itch already had an internal method of telling bad from good.

very reasonable answer ... indeed ... its Weah96 .. so ..

musKeeto:
You've made a claim I don't remember making. You say nature gave man conscience. Who taught you that?

You are the one who believes in all knowing God. Maybe you should ask Him those questions.

You are confused ! You atheists run into huge problems when posed with questions regarding the genesis of time and life ... . Dont bother yourself "I don't know" would have been a noble answer

KingEbukasBlog:
You are confused ! You atheists run into huge problems when posed with questions regarding the genesis of time and life ... . Dont bother yourself "I don't know" would have been a noble answer

Good Christian thinking. Make a claim no one made amd ask me to defend it.

musKeeto:
Im atheist. I was never a satanist. Figure it out.

NOTED. One of the harvest.

Great0:
NOTED. One of the harvest.

lol

2 Timothy 2:26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.

Colossians 2:8 - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

winner01:
Colossians 2:8 - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

The whole bible was written by men and remains the words of men, deluded men for that matter who wanted others to believe their fiction, mythology and controlling ideas. It is not the word of any thing beside men. If you can show that Jesus wrote any word himself maybe we will believe you have an idea of what you are saying.

dalaman:
The whole bible was written by men and remains the words of men, deluded men for that matter who wanted others to believe their fiction, mythology and controlling ideas. It is not the word of any thing beside men. If you can show that Jesus wrote any word himself maybe we will believe you have an idea of what you are saying.

Very funny view on the Bible.
Look at this thread right here:https://www.nairaland.com/2499498/quotes-famous-men-bible
Ill consider the words of those great world changers before i think of not considering yours.
And I'm not trying to make you believe i have an idea of what im saying, afterall the priests of Jesus' time didnt think he had an idea of what He was saying when He called Himself the Son of God.
Im not even about to go back and forth with any anti-theist for that matter. Ill do that only whenever i feel like.

winner01:
Very funny view on the Bible.
Look at this thread right here:https://www.nairaland.com/2499498/quotes-famous-men-bible
Ill consider the words of those great world changers before i think of not considering yours.
And I'm not trying to make you believe i have an idea of what im saying, afterall the priests of Jesus' time didnt think he had an idea of what He was saying when He called Himself the Son of God.
Im not even about to go back and forth with any anti-theist for that matter. Ill do that only whenever i feel like.

The problem with you is that you believe in a pack of lies and when ever someone says any thing about the pack of lies you swallow it without reasoning. It can even be demonstrated that most of the quotes from the famous men are nothing but lies that were fabricated, some are empty platitudes and statements just to support and assert their belief in the bible, some of them do not even believe in what they wrote, they just said it to pander to people. Let's go through a few of the statements that are just outright lies.


President George Washington, First President of the United States
“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible

The quote is a lie, it was never made by George Washington. This link debunks the lie you just posted, the statement was made by one of his christian biographers who edited his statement. There is no actual record of such a statement ever having been made by Washington himself. The original statement is there on the website together with the edited biography. Stop spreading lies, it seems that is the only thing you are good at. We live in an internet age so any lie you put it can easily be checked and debunked.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/badquotes.htm



Pascal , French philosopher and mathematician, developed the modern theory of probability, 1623-1662
“I prefer to believe those writers who get their throats cut for what they write.”

Please how many people in the bible got their thoughts cut for what the wrote down? Up till today no know knows who truly wrote the gospels and majority of the books in the new testament. A lot of the authors of the old testament also remain unknown so what is this man saying?

Sir William Herschel (1738-1822)
"All human discoveries seem to be made only for the purpose of confirming more & more strongly the truth contained in the Sacred Scriptures".

A lot of human discoveries have shown the bible to be false and the writings of people that know nothing about what they are saying. scientific discovered has rendered the genesis creation account to be false, now christains claim it is an allegory. the sun does not move round the sun as the bible says it does, stars can not fall into the earth as the bible says it does, diseases are not caused by evil spirits as the bible says it does and on and on. What does he mean by all discoveries were only for the purpose of confirming the bible. Which part of the bible talks about electricity and it's discovery? What about the discovery of the various chemical elements and the discovery of microscopic germs for example? Which part of the bible talks about them?

President Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States
“Of the many influences that have shaped the United States into a distinctive nation and people, none may be said to be more fundamental and enduring than the Bible.”
“Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.”

Secularism is what made the USA what it is. The US constitution is the document that has shaped and molded the US into what it is and not the bible. Reagan was just lying. The word God does not even appear in any part of the US constitution talk more of the bible. The US constitution goes against the bible. Secularism and it's principles like freedom of speech and expression, equality of the sexes, capitalism, right to bear arms, hegemony etc are the thing that shaped the US and made it what is it. All of these principles go against the bible.

Abraham Lincoln , 16th President of the United States, 1809-1865
“I am busily engaged in the study of the Bible. I believe it is God’s word because it finds me where I am.”
“I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man. All the good of the Savior of the world is communicated to us through the Book.”
“Take all that you can of this book upon reason, and the balance on faith, and you will live and die a happier man. It is the best Book which God has given to man(When a skeptic expressed surprise to see him reading a Bible)”
“But for this book we could not know right from wrong.”

Abraham Lincoln was not a christian, he claimed to be a Christian but his private correspondence with his friends showed he wasn't a Christian. You can google it up.

Now I am in the mood to engage myth believers like you so, I'll do just that.

dalaman:
The problem with you is that you believe in a pack of lies and when ever someone says any thing about the pack of lies you swallow it without reasoning. It can even be demonstrated that most of the quotes from the famous men are nothing but lies that were fabricated, some are empty platitudes and statements just to support and assert their belief in the bible, some of them do not even believe in what they wrote, they just said it to pander to people. Let's go through a few of the statements that are just outright lies.


President George Washington, First President of the United States
“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible

The quote is a lie, it was never made by George Washington. This link debunks the lie you just posted, the statement was made by one of his christian biographers who edited his statement. There is no actual record of such a statement ever having been made by Washington himself. The original statement is there on the website together with the edited biography. Stop spreading lies, it seems that is the only thing you are good at. We live in an internet age so any lie you put it can easily be checked and debunked.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/badquotes.htm



Pascal , French philosopher and mathematician, developed the modern theory of probability, 1623-1662
“I prefer to believe those writers who get their throats cut for what they write.”

Please how many people in the bible got their thoughts cut for what the wrote down? Up till today no know knows who truly wrote the gospels and majority of the books in the new testament. A lot of the authors of the old testament also remain unknown so what is this man saying?

Sir William Herschel (1738-1822)
"All human discoveries seem to be made only for the purpose of confirming more & more strongly the truth contained in the Sacred Scriptures".

A lot of human discoveries have shown the bible to be false and the writings of people that know nothing about what they are saying. scientific discovered has rendered the genesis creation account to be false, now christains claim it is an allegory. the sun does not move round the sun as the bible says it does, stars can not fall into the earth as the bible says it does, diseases are not caused by evil spirits as the bible says it does and on and on. What does he mean by all discoveries were only for the purpose of confirming the bible. Which part of the bible talks about electricity and it's discovery? What about the discovery of the various chemical elements and the discovery of microscopic germs for example? Which part of the bible talks about them?

President Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States
“Of the many influences that have shaped the United States into a distinctive nation and people, none may be said to be more fundamental and enduring than the Bible.”
“Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.”

Secularism is what made the USA what it is. The US constitution is the document that has shaped and molded the US into what it is and not the bible. Reagan was just lying. The word God does not even appear in any part of the US constitution talk more of the bible. The US constitution goes against the bible. Secularism and it's principles like freedom of speech and expression, equality of the sexes, capitalism, right to bear arms, hegemony etc are the thing that shaped the US and made it what is it. All of these principles go against the bible.

Abraham Lincoln , 16th President of the United States, 1809-1865
“I am busily engaged in the study of the Bible. I believe it is God’s word because it finds me where I am.”
“I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man. All the good of the Savior of the world is communicated to us through the Book.”
“Take all that you can of this book upon reason, and the balance on faith, and you will live and die a happier man. It is the best Book which God has given to man(When a skeptic expressed surprise to see him reading a Bible)”
“But for this book we could not know right from wrong.”

Abraham Lincoln was not a christian, he claimed to be a Christian but his private correspondence with his friends showed he wasn't a Christian. You can google it up.

Now I am in the mood to engage myth believers like you so, I'll do just that.

Lol, they wrote the "lies" to pander people, they didnt believe in the Bible. And you a "relevant great man" knows the beginning and the end of all these lies.

What makes you think that whatever link you post will move me. As a matter of fact, you will find articles on google that will tell you that;
Jesus never existed, Jesus was just a good man, Jesus was a muslim, Jesus was a cultist, Satan is god, the bible is fake, man came from mars, man developed from apes, Christianity is cultism, the bible is a conspiracy, the bible written by mad men, abraham lincoln was satanic, george washinton was demonic, and any other negatives you can think about.

Type all these on google, it will surely give you answers. Articles from men. Demonic inspired articles.
Point is, you will find almost anything against christianity on google especially with increasing immorality in the world, with increasing rebellion against moral constraints and the good.

So telling me to google for answers from articles written by men to discredit the truth is laughable and only makes me more firm in my belief of the Word of God which says in Galatians 1:9. that As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God's curse!


I believe in God's Word not the words of random men and I have never regretted it by the grace of God. Psalms 119:105. Thy word [is] a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

I particularly like these ones;
Sir Ambrose Flemming , British electrical engineer and inventor, 1849-1945
“We must not build on the sands of an uncertain and everchanging science…but upon the rock of inspired Scriptures.”

Isaac Newton , English mathematician and scientist, 1642-1727
“We account the scriptures of God to be the most sublime philosophy. I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever.”

Professor M. Montiero-Williams, former Boden prof. Of Sanskrit who spent 42 years studying Eastern books
Said comparing them with the Bible:
“Pile them, if you will, on the left side of your study table; but place your own Holy Bible on the right side–all by itself, all alone–and with a wide gap between them. For there is a gulf between it and the so-called sacred books of the East which severs the one from the other utterly hopelessly, and a forever…a veritable gulf which cannot be bridged over by any science of religious thought.”

This will be my final reply to you today. Ive got more fruitful things to do today. When next i feel like chatting with god-haters, ill do it.