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Hizzy:
Please are you a priest I wanted to be but I didn't make it

Lol... No I'm not ooo....
But if its God's will,who am I to say no?...

Barywhyte:
Go read the history of Roman Catholic Church. That church did not emanate from Apostles! Catholic church is a direct consequence of false doctrine introduced into church few decades after the departure of the Apostles. It is called Nicolaitan deeds in Rev 2:6

The truth is we are looking at a fulfillment of biblical prophecies here and Roman Catholic Church is a system whose existence span centuries. A system that was responsible for the death of millions of faithful christians who refused to follow their dogmas when the church exercised combination of political and religious power over the entire Europe during the Dark Ages. It is wrong to single out a priest or pope for criticism because the church is a generational system and it is not about an individual person.

Unfortunately Roman Catholic Church refered to as beast/whorish mother is regaining the power she lost in 1798 when the pope of that year was dethroned and imprisoned and subsequently killed by one military general. With the help of America and World Council of Churches, Roman Catholic Church or the Beast as the bible call it, will rise again and this time around, the entire world will worship her (note that about 2billion people are already following). The end of everything is near. The gentile time is over.


So bro, go read the history of your church. Its not a pleasant one.

So millions of churches in De world it's Catholic church is the beast while you own committee or meeting Jahova witness is the true church I want to ask you where in De Bible did it call Catholic church beast
Stop deceiving yourself OK Jesus Christ was de one dat created your own church

Iyke1998:
Lol... No I'm not ooo....
But if its God's will,who am I to say no?...

OK

missKiffy:
You are a fool

No sir, he is not a fool. He is misinformed. The least you can tell him is to listen to Jesus 'forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us' clearly Christ expects us to forgive and we have the power to do so. The Pope, the priests, you and I have the power to forgive. Catholics go their priests to confess their sins to God. It's not out of place.

funkybully:
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Catholic priests when absolving sin invokes the power bestowed on them as is in d Bible, but forgiveness is left for God.

Catholic priests including Pope go for confession when they err. No man is perfect

The priest will absolve you and then God will forgive you, right? People following man made doctrine since 1900

kamez:
I am the way the truth and the life. no one comet unto the father except thru me. that's what Jesus said.


God alone can forgive all sins.. confess ur sins directly to him thru Jesus no priest can absolve ur sins. only Jesus can..

oya catholics in the house, sentence me to death.

No need, you are dead already.

dukecharles:
The sacrament of reconciliation is one of the greatest sacraments in the Catholic Church as the only Christian Church founded by Christ and his apostles,which is not in other churches. Cf John 20 vs 23. Matthew 9 vs 6-8, John 17 vs 2, meditate on the verses, you will get the answer you seek.
BTW our priest act "in persone Christi" which means in the person of Christ just like the apostles. You may not understand.
Catholic Church is Apostolic which means it has direct origin from the Apostles, of course, it was the first and only Christian Church on earth for 1551 years before protestantism which gave birth to what we have today as protestant or pentecostal church. It simply means people who protested against the FAITH. More so, , where Pope is staying today is where Peter the prince of the Apostles was buried.
I am not writing this for you to believe, prove other churches wrong, defend the Catholic Church or to make you to start going for confession. No all am saying is believe in you own and let others be, it has been working for them centuries ago.
If a Pastor can pray for you to receive miracle, I don't know wat is wrong with a priest praying for repentant soul to receive forgiveness and reconciliation.

Christ is never the founder or Roman Catholic. Christ founded the Church and the CHURCH as it stands is different from Roman Catholic church but that a topic of another day.

It will benefit you nothing in telling lies to justify falsehood. Protestant movement started when a certain Pope introduced the doctrine of INDULGENCE. Maybe your teacher has not told you of how people were asked to pay money for their sins to be forgiven because the Pope was looking for money to to build St PETERS Rome. Maybe you have not been taught about what led to the rise of the movement LUTHERAN.

Your Christ founded Catholic and possibly took the hqtrs to Rome.

thorpido:
Why can't you just talk to God directly?He will hear you without needing a priest.

That doesn't mean u won't pray for urself

missKiffy:
Catholics why do you seek forgiveness from a priest instead of from God

To whom sins u forgive, they re forgiven, to whom sins u retain, they re retained

End time Pope.
Jesuit demonized pope.
Satan in the Vatican
Religious apostasy
Roman Catholic a Luciferic institution

Hizzy:
So millions of churches in De world it's Catholic church is the beast while you own committee or meeting Jahova witness is the true church I want to ask you where in De Bible did it call Catholic church beast
Stop deceiving yourself OK Jesus Christ was de one dat created your own church

I don't understand your language

kamez:
I am the way the truth and the life. no one comet unto the father except thru me. that's what Jesus said.


God alone can forgive all sins.. confess ur sins directly to him thru Jesus no priest can absolve ur sins. only Jesus can..

oya catholics in the house, sentence me to death.

Mehn no one z sentencing 2 death cos u are entitled 2 ur opinion. Well, coming 2 ur stance d Gospel of John explaims it all.. Where Christ gave the Disciples the power to Bind n Loose; that whatsoever they bind on earth shall be bind in Heaven and whatsoever they loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven.. Mind U, this is not Catholics quotation but Christ's..

What can I say?

Optimall:
No whose sins WHO have forgiven??
The president of VATican? Oops his HOLINESS?

Hahaha!
Politics inside church Jehovah abhor that like Sugar!
Or is it RAcism?
No exactly what makes Roman Catholic Holy?

Sorry, but this is a very wrong way to pass on a message, in case you intended one in the first instance.

If you ask the right question without any bias and with a real desire to learn then, certainly all the arguments put forward in defense of the catholic faith should be enough for you.

If not, I suspect you carry a needless vendetta against Catholics and what they hold in faith. This is not a surprise though, it's for this very reason that you are called protestant, a people fighting a failed cause generation after generation, same way that the catholic church weathers the storm and gets better, notwithstanding the passage of time.

Indeed, the gates of hell shall never prevail against it...

Barywhyte:
Go read the history of Roman Catholic Church. That church did not emanate from Apostles! Catholic church is a direct consequence of false doctrine introduced into church few decades after the departure of the Apostles. It is called Nicolaitan deeds in Rev 2:6

The truth is we are looking at a fulfillment of biblical prophecies here and Roman Catholic Church is a system whose existence span centuries. A system that was responsible for the death of millions of faithful christians who refused to follow their dogmas when the church exercised combination of political and religious power over the entire Europe during the Dark Ages. It is wrong to single out a priest or pope for criticism because the church is a generational system and it is not about an individual person.

Unfortunately Roman Catholic Church refered to as beast/whorish mother is regaining the power she lost in 1798 when the pope of that year was dethroned and imprisoned and subsequently killed by one military general. With the help of America and World Council of Churches, Roman Catholic Church or the Beast as the bible call it, will rise again and this time around, the entire world will worship her (note that about 2billion people are already following). The end of everything is near. The gentile time is over.


So bro, go read the history of your church. Its not a pleasant one.

So sorry for your watch MOVIE too much. Christ told peter,you peter,upon this rock,i will build my church and the gate of HELL cannot prevail against it. Christ also prayed to God his father that as he is cuming to meet him,he prayed that the church should be one.. Catholic church is the one and only church that profess one faith in God. Evrytin in the catholic faith,is one both in Europe,Asia,Africa,Middle East etc

morbeta:
Catholic with their there dogmatic ways, my bible says only jesus forgives sins and the only way to life everlasting. How come catholic priest are the ones to forgive sin even the ones they are part of. Na nwa oooooo

you did you read your bible well, you certainly didn't read it completely.
What does Jn 20:23 say in your bible?

Jeromejnr:
Ignorance of praying to Mary and angels. And also bowing down to statues

I prefer that type of ignorance.

I would say ignorance of Christian history before Martin Luther and his ilk. Or do you think there were no Christians before the Protestants came along in the 16th century?

Optimall:
The bible said Jesus Is our intercessor.

No Jesus is our mediator not intercessor. There is a difference. And Jesus is our mediator to the Father because he reconciled mankind to God through becoming one of us by being born in the flesh.

Papist:
I would say ignorance of Christian history before Martin Luther and his ilk. Or do you think there were no Christians before the Protestants came along in the 16th century?

Yep! The apostles and their disciples were Christians.

Papist:
No Jesus is our mediator not intercessor. There is a difference. And Jesus is our mediator to the Father because he reconciled mankind to God through becoming one of us by being born in the flesh.

Hebrews 7:25: Therefore He (Jesus) is able also to save to the uttermost those who come unto God by Him, seeing He ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Not Mary.

You dont need an intermediary to talk to God...

You do not need an intermediary to talk to God

Jeromejnr:
Yep! The apostles and their disciples were Christians.

And after the Apostles died the Church disappeared right? Only to be resurrected by Martin Luther and his friends? So the martyrs of the catacombs of Rome who died for their faith in Christ were not Christians. St Polycarp, St Philomena, St Agnes etc?

samplegirl:
Christ is never the founder or Roman Catholic. Christ founded the Church and the CHURCH as it stands is different from Roman Catholic church but that a topic of another day.

It will benefit you nothing in telling lies to justify falsehood. Protestant movement started when a certain Pope introduced the doctrine of INDULGENCE. Maybe your teacher has not told you of how people were asked to pay money for their sins to be forgiven because the Pope was looking for money to to build St PETERS Rome. Maybe you have not been taught about what led to the rise of the movement LUTHERAN.

Your Christ founded Catholic and possibly took the hqtrs to Rome.

If you want to boast about your knowledge of the Reformation is it not better that you enlighten yourself first? No pope introduced the doctrine of indulgences. It is an apostolic teaching. What Luther was complaining about was the selling of indulgences which was idone by some German bishops. This practice was not Church teaching and was anathematised by the Council of Trent.

Barywhyte:
Go read the history of Roman Catholic Church. That church did not emanate from Apostles! Catholic church is a direct consequence of false doctrine introduced into church few decades after the departure of the Apostles. It is called Nicolaitan deeds in Rev 2:6

The truth is we are looking at a fulfillment of biblical prophecies here and Roman Catholic Church is a system whose existence span centuries. A system that was responsible for the death of millions of faithful christians who refused to follow their dogmas when the church exercised combination of political and religious power over the entire Europe during the Dark Ages. It is wrong to single out a priest or pope for criticism because the church is a generational system and it is not about an individual person.

Unfortunately Roman Catholic Church refered to as beast/whorish mother is regaining the power she lost in 1798 when the pope of that year was dethroned and imprisoned and subsequently killed by one military general. With the help of America and World Council of Churches, Roman Catholic Church or the Beast as the bible call it, will rise again and this time around, the entire world will worship her (note that about 2billion people are already following). The end of everything is near. The gentile time is over.


So bro, go read the history of your church. Its not a pleasant one.

I'm glad you have read about the Catholic Church. I hope you also in your reading found that its first 30 popes starting with St Peter were all martyred by the pagan Romans. And also that this Church of Rome has been proclaimed by the apostles as the ruler and teacher of all churches due to its Petrine origins. Have you read about all its holy saints like Ignatius of Antioch, Athanasius, Augustine, Maria Goretti etc. Did you also read that the Bible that you thump at this Church was canonised, preserved and given to you by this Church?

Ayatullah:


Thanks for the Golden Question. Let us ask the Pope and the Catholics in general what becomes of 'The Lord's Prayer' as taught by Jesus, where Christ's followers are taught to seek forgiveness from God.

It is quite nonsensical to confess your sins to a fellow human being who in turn tell you your sins are forgiven.

We pray the Lord's prayer from Sunday to Saturday everyday during Holy Mass.

Papist:
And after the Apostles died the Church disappeared right? Only to be resurrected by Martin Luther and his friends? So the martyrs of the catacombs of Rome who died for their faith in Christ were not Christians. St Polycarp, St Philomena, St Agnes etc?

Seems, you don't know the history of the church very well.

Let me summarise:

There was a massive persecution. Christians were dispersed into so many nations as a result. Later Constantine comes and stops the killings of Christians. He establishes Christianity as the major religion in Rome.

Now Rome is a gentile nation. Known for its practices of idolatry and worldliness.

Many Christians as a result troop into Rome because there they found peace. But still some remained in other nations.

Then something happens. Constantine starts to give decress and laws for how Christianity should be practiced. There was a struggle at first but as time went by some of this genti
Practice's were accepted and mixed together with Christianity. Then came all forms of bishops and dogmas.

Now later on, someone in a particular council (I think they called it second council order or something) ..comes up with a suggestion of praying to Mary as a result of just one scripture he read. Years after it was established by the Pope as an accepted doctrine.

Meanwhile all this is happening, those Christians in other nations are still living in the commands of the early apostles and are not affected by the teachings of Rome. They go about techomg the Word, God still confirming it with signs and wonders and then God raises up some people who will go forth and shine the light of the glorious gospel as given originally by Jesus and the apostles which came revelation by revelation until what we call full gospel movement came about....

A revival broke out as a result (Azusa street) were the whole town was brought to the knowledge of God and the ways of the early apostles. Meanwhile all this is happening there is no praying to Mary going on and all those other practice's.

But at the other side, because most people have been brought up with the ways of the Romans and have mixed it with Christianity, even when they saw the truth, they could not accept it. So as we have it then we have it now.

There are always going to be Pharisees who try to establish their own doctrines and their own way of righteousness.

Papist:
No Jesus is our mediator not intercessor. There is a difference. And Jesus is our mediator to the Father because he reconciled mankind to God through becoming one of us by being born in the flesh.

Please enlighten me on the difference

konvict0111:
Sorry, but this is a very wrong way to pass on a message, in case you intended one in the first instance.

If you ask the right question without any bias and with a real desire to learn then, certainly all the arguments put forward in defense of the catholic faith should be enough for you.

If not, I suspect you carry a needless vendetta against Catholics and what they hold in faith. This is not a surprise though, it's for this very reason that you are called protestant, a people fighting a failed cause generation after generation, same way that the catholic church weathers the storm and gets better, notwithstanding the passage of time.

Indeed, the gates of hell shall never prevail against it...

Sorry but I'm not even a protestant.
A born Catholic.
Just not ok with the mess going inside the church,it's an eye sore!

They didn't fail,the protestants.
They were murdered.
In cold blood by the very people that profess to follow Jesus,your Catholic!
I abhor murderers,I just abhor them!

italo:
To other priests.

There's something you're avoiding:

Have you now seen that, though it is God alone who forgives sins, he allowed men to do it on his behalf (thereby believing John20:23)?

Or do you still maintain that men cannot do that (thereby disbelieving John20:23)?

God alone forgives sin,I still believe it. Unless otherwise stated!
Especially not when the pope tells who and who should be forgiven or not. Oops the same pope that tells who and who should be sold as slaves! Doesn't make sense
Your pope can see the heart but God does so he alone is the ultimate decider
Believe what you want!

Jeromejnr:
Seems, you don't know the history of the church very well.

Let me summarise:

There was a massive persecution. Christians were dispersed into so many nations as a result. Later Constantine comes and stops the killings of Christians. He establishes Christianity as the major religion in Rome.

Now Rome is a gentile nation. Known for its practices of idolatry and worldliness.

Many Christians as a result troop into Rome because there they found peace. But still some remained in other nations.

Then something happens. Constantine starts to give decress and laws for how Christianity should be practiced. There was a struggle at first but as time went by some of this genti
Practice's were accepted and mixed together with Christianity. Then came all forms of bishops and dogmas.

Now later on, someone in a particular council (I think they called it second council order or something) ..comes up with a suggestion of praying to Mary as a result of just one scripture he read. Years after it was established by the Pope as an accepted doctrine.

Meanwhile all this is happening, those Christians in other nations are still living in the commands of the early apostles and are not affected by the teachings of Rome. They go about techomg the Word, God still confirming it with signs and wonders and then God raises up some people who will go forth and shine the light of the glorious gospel as given originally by Jesus and the apostles which came revelation by revelation until what we call full gospel movement came about....

A revival broke out as a result (Azusa street) were the whole town was brought to the knowledge of God and the ways of the early apostles. Meanwhile all this is happening there is no praying to Mary going on and all those other practice's.

But at the other side, because most people have been brought up with the ways of the Romans and have mixed it with Christianity, even when they saw the truth, they could not accept it. So as we have it then we have it now.

There are always going to be Pharisees who try to establish their own doctrines and their own way of righteousness.

Excuse me where did you read all this? Can you cite your sources please. You dont even know the name of the Council where. they supposedly made it ok to pray to Mary? Are you reffering to the Council where Mary was called Theotokos? Are you talking about the Council of Ephesus?