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Scholar8200:
He further said
You serpents! You spawn of vipers! How can you escape the penalty to be suffered in hell (Gehenna)?
Matthew 23:33

waldigit:
But He talked about hell existence? Or am I missing something?

frosbel2:
Yes, which means a place of destruction not a place of unending punishment.

Read Isaiah 66:24 with emphasis on the underlined.
"And they will go out and look on the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; the worms that eat them will not die, the fire that burns them will not be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."

agwom:
The very thought of Hell is terrifying. Such a thought is an intense provoker for many to repent of their sins and revere the word of the Lord. However, others think little of Hell. For example, you may have heard someone say something like €how could a loving, kind, and merciful God send me to Hell?€ Such people who hold this view must be taught the truth of the matter before it is too late and they find themselves in the very place they once believed they would never experience.

The truth of the matter is found in the word of God, for Jesus Himself said to the Father €Thy word is truth€ (John 17:17), we know we can depend on God for a true answer. After all, it was God who created Hell as a place of eternal punishment (Matthew 25:41), thus He is the only divine source of knowledge about Hell and who will go there. Therefore, in response to the question €how could a loving God send me to Hell?€ God's word shows that God is loving, kind, and merciful, and He does not want to send anyone to Hell. Consider 2 Peter 3:9 €The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.€ This scripture clearly outlines God's feelings. He does not desire that anyone go to Hell, instead He wants all to come to repentance of their sins. But the question now arises, what if someone does not repent of their sins?



who are u to challenge it\his or her judgement,he will roast all of us cos he enjoy roasted human being[color=#006600][/color]
Romans 2:1-16 should be deeply considered by all who have questions about who will go to Hell and why God would send them. The text explains that God is rich with goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, and that it is these characteristics of God that leads one to repentance (verse 4). For an example of this, consider John 3:16, €For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.€ God is so good and loving to us that He gave us the perfect means by which we can escape Hell. Therefore the problem of people going to Hell does not rest on God, but on man. If you look back at Romans 2:5 it says €in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath.€ The blame is on the individual with the hardened heart, who is unwilling to repent of their sins and allow God to forgive them at baptism. The fault is their own because the loving, kind, and merciful God is there to save them from Hell, but they refuse Him.
For those who struggle to see how the LORD is merciful even when sending someone to Hell, I plead with you to meditate on Psalm 62:12, which says: €Also to You, O Lord, belongs mercy; For You render to each one according to his work.€ This text shows that God truly is merciful while He either rewards or punishes an individual according to the way they lived their life. And this He will do again when the final Day of Judgment commences: €For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.€ Matthew 16:27.

Ezekiel 18:29-32 perfectly incorporates the truths of our present discussion: "Yet the house of Israel says, 'The way of the Lord is not fair.' O house of Israel, is it not My ways which are fair, and your ways which are not fair? Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways," says the Lord GOD. "Repent, and turn from all your transgressions, so that iniquity will not be your ruin. Cast away from you all the transgressions which you have committed, and get yourselves a new heart and a new spirit. For why should you die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says the Lord GOD. "Therefore turn and live!€
€The judgment of God is according to truth€ Romans 2:2. On the Day of Judgment, God will judge €according to truth€ and not according to a lie. The lie is that God will not send a sinner to Hell. The truth is much different, for €when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power€ 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9.

agwom:
The very thought of Hell is terrifying. Such a thought is an intense provoker for many to repent of their sins and revere the word of the Lord. However, others think little of Hell. For example, you may have heard someone say something like €how could a loving, kind, and merciful God send me to Hell?€ Such people who hold this view must be taught the truth of the matter before it is too late and they find themselves in the very place they once believed they would never experience.

The truth of the matter is found in the word of God, for Jesus Himself said to the Father €Thy word is truth€ (John 17:17), we know we can depend on God for a true answer. After all, it was God who created Hell as a place of eternal punishment (Matthew 25:41), thus He is the only divine source of knowledge about Hell and who will go there. Therefore, in response to the question €how could a loving God send me to Hell?€ God's word shows that God is loving, kind, and merciful, and He does not want to send anyone to Hell. Consider 2 Peter 3:9 €The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.€ This scripture clearly outlines God's feelings. He does not desire that anyone go to Hell, instead He wants all to come to repentance of their sins. But the question now arises, what if someone does not repent of their sins?



who are u to challenge it\his or her judgement,he will roast all of us cos he enjoy roasted human being
Romans 2:1-16 should be deeply considered by all who have questions about who will go to Hell and why God would send them. The text explains that God is rich with goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, and that it is these characteristics of God that leads one to repentance (verse 4). For an example of this, consider John 3:16, €For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.€ God is so good and loving to us that He gave us the perfect means by which we can escape Hell. Therefore the problem of people going to Hell does not rest on God, but on man. If you look back at Romans 2:5 it says €in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath.€ The blame is on the individual with the hardened heart, who is unwilling to repent of their sins and allow God to forgive them at baptism. The fault is their own because the loving, kind, and merciful God is there to save them from Hell, but they refuse Him.
For those who struggle to see how the LORD is merciful even when sending someone to Hell, I plead with you to meditate on Psalm 62:12, which says: €Also to You, O Lord, belongs mercy; For You render to each one according to his work.€ This text shows that God truly is merciful while He either rewards or punishes an individual according to the way they lived their life. And this He will do again when the final Day of Judgment commences: €For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.€ Matthew 16:27.

Ezekiel 18:29-32 perfectly incorporates the truths of our present discussion: "Yet the house of Israel says, 'The way of the Lord is not fair.' O house of Israel, is it not My ways which are fair, and your ways which are not fair? Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways," says the Lord GOD. "Repent, and turn from all your transgressions, so that iniquity will not be your ruin. Cast away from you all the transgressions which you have committed, and get yourselves a new heart and a new spirit. For why should you die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says the Lord GOD. "Therefore turn and live!€
€The judgment of God is according to truth€ Romans 2:2. On the Day of Judgment, God will judge €according to truth€ and not according to a lie. The lie is that God will not send a sinner to Hell. The truth is much different, for €when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power€ 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9.

Owongtok:
No hell with burning fire.God's no pervert or sadist.Fiction. So says the respected Pope Francis.And I side him completely on this.

menesheh:
Anything that you can't see, measure, and or prove either logically or empirically is as good as it doesn't exist. The worst of it is that it is not plausible. Where will you start laying hypothesis of hell.


Where did you want me to gather evidence to start disproving hell and also how do you intend proving the reality of it since there is no iota of anything to lay hand on. Zero. Therefore it is irrelevant.

Mind you, am not asserting absolute certainty. That's where science surpassed faith. Faith thrives in absolutism without evidence and prove while science deals with skepticism even in the face of mountains of evidence.

Jeromejnr:
Well those of us that have experienced the supernatural don't have to wait for science. That is why we believe in it even without the scientific proofs you are looking for.

menesheh:
Both of us are stocked in this planet earth as apes of same specie. How come you are witnessing something supernatural and am not. Maybe you do witness extra-ordinary and complex waw stuffs that human brain are incapable of solving (sometimes solved but you doubt it cos of your presuppositions) , then you decided to nickname yours as supernatural or known unknowns. It is a confirmation bias. Because i don't know anything about X therefore Y must be the answer.

Bro, this is the reasons why men for millennia have created pretty many imagery gods and fantasies they hold as fact and true.

nobilis:
Why do we have canes in schools and in other centers of formation?
You don't even need to flog anyone. All u need to do is to let the kids know that they will be flogged if they flout rules and u will see them fall in line.

The same way, religion invented a system of punishment so horrible and unimaginable that people who might even want to go against its tenets just hold themselves back because of the fear of punishment.

Many people are religious today just because of the fear of hell. Nothing more. Nothing less. Remove the doctrine of punishment in hell fire from religious teachings and watch the whole system crumble like a pack of cards.

The bible says God's love is unconditional.
Then it also says he punishes people who reject his love.
Isn't that oxymoronic in itself.

When u have truly understood the meaning of unconditional love, then u will understand that either the bible is lying or that the bible writers were deceived.

nobilis:
Humans are not in search for any truth.
The only thing humans are searching for is the ultimate meaning of their existence on earth.

Religion originated with man. And not God.
Man started seeing things he couldn't understand.
Seeing patterns that he couldn't explain and he attributed it to supernatural beings.

Why do you think religion is failing in developed countries?
This is because those things which man couldn't previously explain and were attributed to supernatural beings are now being explained.
It is as simple as that.

MizJanet:
Lol , not hellfire .

frosbel2:
So why do you go beyond what is written and talk about a fictional hell ??

Princewell2012:
What you dont know is that as far you are still living, you are already a candidate of hell, and when you died you will surely go there, you re only saviour is if you are a born again, then Jesus will resurrect from there to heaven on the last day, even Abraham is still there waiting for the second coming of Jesus. Otherwise they will remain forever there.

kobosmalls:
Fact?
Really?
That God exists and that hell exists are facts and yet u cant prove nor even see them, yet u project them as facts.
What is wrong with you?

Appleyard:
Amd what do you understand by thee wages of Sin being "death?"

Scholar8200:
This is not correct!

After the resurrection of Christ, the saints of the OT resurrected too. Matthew 27:52,53)

The place of the departed comprises two destination: Paradise - Abraham's Bosom and the place of Torment where the fire is and both is separated by a big gulf Luke 16:24-29)and the one is at a point of elevation from the other.

. After Christ's resurrection souls who die in the faith go straight to Heaven (Revelations 6:9) but the place of torment is still there, the only 'relief' being the Great Judgement in Revelations 20 after which they will be sent to the lake of fire.

kobosmalls:
Fact?
Really?
That God exists and that hell exists are facts and yet u cant prove nor even see them, yet u project them as facts.
What is wrong with you?

Appleyard:
He never talked about any fictional hell. Yuo should try to understand the meaning of hell as used in the bible under different context.

By the way; what do you understand hell to mean?

MizJanet:
take a knife and slaughter your hen , what happens to it ? It died ! Thats a little experiment that will let you understand what death is .

spencerwilliams:
Once i saw this topic i was very eager to read what our opinions would look like and having read through some comments and post,i want 2 say"YOU MAY CHOOSE TO OR CHOOSE NOT TO BELEIVE THAT HELL AWAITS ALL SINNERS"revelation 21:8. I know the problem of most people supporting this idea,these are mostly people that have tried all within their power to avoid sin,they are the ones that say i surrender to Jesus today and tommorrow back to the devil,they are those who have confessed their sins to their spiritual leaders,gone for prayers,deliverance fasted,but still found themeselves entangled in sin and thus because of all the above efforts they decide to conclude that "God is too loving to send his creations to a place called hell".I pity you.... If you doubt what i'm saying then just try to ask those who say God can't send people to hell if they beleive anyone can live a life without sin?do not be suprised to hear"it can never be,it's not possible,man will always continue to sin" this is their source and reason for the conclusion above"GOD is not wicked to send his creation to hell" .But i tell all that are in sin repent and escape HELL!!!.

CaptainJune:
On the contrary, the death in question does not result from knife or gun or poison but from sin. The death is not a physical one but one spiritual in nature.

oh ! It doesnt kill , how come you people claim its sin that lead to humans dying ?


And this spiri spiri death u talking about is an advantage o , coz someone who has died (Spiritual in nature - captainjune) his free from his sin - Roman 6:7

MizJanet:
take a knife and slaughter your hen , what happens to it ? It died ! Thats a little experiment that will let you understand what death is .

CaptainJune:
He is of the error of belief that hell, the word as used in the Scriptures, means the grave where one who dies is buried.

CaptainJune:
I have dealt with the issue of the definition of fact in another thread. If, and I believe it is so, you are one of those who strictly define fact as anything that can be verified scientifically, then you are half-informed like the rest of your kind.

Facts can be verified scientifically, by personal experience, by testimonies of others etc....please look it up before you wade into an argument blindly.

Is it every phenomenon in life that is subject to scientific verification? Is science the only yardstick for testing the reality of a phenomenon in this world?

Appleyard:
You are very correct! Many can't deal with sins in their life, and the easier way out is to put the blame on God who they don't even understand a jot about.

It is almost useless trying to convince these ones. But all the same, they are humans like us, and with time, they shall come to understand better.

The problem is: Time wait for no one!

Appleyard:
Pls give me some examples of those things which man couldnt explain previously, but are now been explained in developed countries.

I am waiting.

MizJanet:
oh ! It doesnt kill , how come you people claim its sin that lead to humans dying ?


And this spiri spiri death u talking about is an advantage o , coz someone who has died (Spiritual in nature - captainjune) his free from his sin - Roman 6:7

Appleyard:
What do you understand about God's love being unconditional? Cite with references from the Bible itself, then come back and tell me. I will be waiting!

kobosmalls:
I dont need to read a stupid post to know what fact is.
Fact remains fact whether scientifically acquired or otherwise.
Fact according to meriam webster:
(a)something that truly exists or happens,:something that has actual existence.
(b)a piece of information presented as having OBJECTIVE REALITY.
synonym:actuality,factuality,MATERIALITY,REALITY.

Get a dictionary, its very easy to use and understand.
You tool.

CaptainJune:
Why is this study of hypnosis not applicable to the Muslims and Greeks? Will you deny the fact that their beliefs teach the afterlife and the underworld? Again, why haven't there been reports of widespread hypnosis among the adherents of these religions?



You don't know what the Bible teaches because you have never read what it says about hell. Where in the Bible is it said hell is not populated yet? Now I'm curious.




Even if the buddhists and hindus don't have any teachings about the underworld, they are not exempted from belief in deities. So, tell me, where are the widespread and growing reports from all over the globe of hypnosis about seeing those deities they worship?