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Barywhyte:
Just give me your proof

Papist:
Dionysius of Corinth
"You [Pope Soter] have also, by your very admonition, brought together the planting that was made by Peter and Paul at Rome and at Corinth; for both of them alike planted in our Corinth and taught us; and both alike, teaching similarly in Italy, suffered martyrdom at the same time" (Letter to Pope Soter
[A.D. 170], in Eusebius, History of the Church 2:25:.
Irenaeus
"Matthew also issued among the Hebrews a written Gospel in their own language, while Peter and Paul were evangelizing in Rome and laying the foundation of the Church" ( Against Heresies , 3, 1:1 [A.D. 189]).
"But since it would be too long to enumerate in such a volume as this the succession of all the churches, we shall confound all those who, in whatever manner, whether through self-satisfaction or vainglory, or through blindness and wicked opinion, assemble other than where it is proper, by pointing out here the succession of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles. With that church [of Rome], because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition" (ibid., 3, 3, 2).
"The blessed apostles [Peter and Paul], having founded and built up the church [of Rome], they handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus. Paul makes mention of this Linus in the letter to Timothy [2 Tim. 4:21]. To him succeeded Anacletus, and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was chosen for the episcopate. He had seen the blessed apostles and was acquainted with them. It might be said that he still heard the echoes of the preaching of the apostles and had their traditions before his eyes. And not only he, for there were many still remaining who had been instructed by the apostles. In the time of Clement, no small dissension having arisen among the brethren in Corinth, the church in Rome sent a very strong letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to peace and renewing their faith. ... To this Clement, Evaristus succeeded . . . and now, in the twelfth place after the apostles, the lot of the episcopate [of Rome] has fallen to Eleutherius. In this order, and by the teaching of the apostles handed down in the Church, the preaching of the truth has come down to us" (ibid., 3, 3, 3).

Papist:
Gaius
"It is recorded that Paul was beheaded in Rome itself, and Peter, likewise, was crucified, during the reign [of the Emperor Nero]. The account is confirmed by the names of Peter and Paul over the cemeteries there, which remain to the present time. And it is confirmed also by a stalwart man of the Church, Gaius by name, who lived in the time of Zephyrinus, bishop of Rome. This Gaius, in a written disputation with Proclus, the leader of the sect of Cataphrygians, says this of the places in which the remains of the aforementioned apostles were deposited: ‘I can point out the trophies of the apostles. For if you are willing to go to the Vatican or to the Ostian Way, you will find the trophies of those who founded this Church’" (Disputation with Proclus [A.D. 198] in Eusebius,
Church History 2:25:5).

samplegirl:
Christ is never the founder or Roman Catholic. Christ founded the Church and the CHURCH as it stands is different from Roman Catholic church but that a topic of another day.

It will benefit you nothing in telling lies to justify falsehood. Protestant movement started when a certain Pope introduced the doctrine of INDULGENCE. Maybe your teacher has not told you of how people were asked to pay money for their sins to be forgiven because the Pope was looking for money to to build St PETERS Rome. Maybe you have not been taught about what led to the rise of the movement LUTHERAN.

Your Christ founded Catholic and possibly took the hqtrs to Rome.

Barywhyte:
Oga I feel very sorry for you. Where did you copy this story from? From Roman Catholic of course! Where else could it be? I thought you going to show me from the pages of the bible how Peter turned out to be Founder or first Bishop of Roman Catholic Church. You don't know that Peter was never sent to Rome to go and preach the Gospel. Christ, from the beginning commissioned Peter to preach the Gospel to Jews (the circumcised) and Paul was commissioned to preach the Gospel to gentiles (the uncircumcised of which Rome is part) Gal 2:7-9. Again Paul stated in 2tim 1:11 that his mission was to be the chief apostle to the gentiles. Now who wrote the epistle to the Romans? Certainly Paul and not Peter. Paul established the true church in Rome and that church was certainly not Roman Catholic Church. Romans 15:16.

Some years after Paul wrote to Romans, he was taken as prisoner to Rome to stand trial before Cesar Act 28:15-17. If Peter and Paul were together in Rome as you claimed in your write up, how come Paul never mentioned Peter's name when all the jews came to him to hear the gospel? Why? because Peter was never in Rome. In 2tim 4:11-16, Paul specifically mentioned that everybody forsook him during his trial in Rome except Luke. Could Peter have forsaken Paul if he was present in Rome or if he also preached in Rome?

My brother, Peter didn't found Catholic Church. He was never in Rome because Christ didn't send to Gentiles to preach the gospel. That was the job of Paul and Catholic never claimed that Paul was the first Pope. Never. Even if they did, it wouldn't amount to truth in anyway.

I can give you the history and the exact origin of Roman Catholic Church from the pages of the Bible starting with Act 8:9-24 but that's a topic for another day. Apology for my sloppy reply

dukecharles:
I will not join issues with you, goggle is you friend, search for church history, purge of Nero 51 Ad. Ask Google if Peter was in Rome. I am sure you will get the answer that you seek.
Pax tecum (May the peace of Christ be with you )

missKiffy:
You are a fool