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plappville:
I think the word Born again is only used within Nigeria. I have never heard any christian in the West call themselves "born again ". They call themseĺves believers or christians.

Bros, God bless you for this
right now, no christian in countries of the real world uses the term "born again" again.
when you travel out you will notice this.
except for some primitive christians who never went to school

MuttleyLaff:
and what does ''no they dont'' mean

SMH, OK then the word Christians in those three verses refers, to believers in Christ in an endearing and complimentary

You dont want to admit that the Christian word did not originate from God, Jesus or any of the Apostles
which is why you're forever faffing around, and not answering the simple question about:
Did the early believers, disciples or Apostles explicitly called themselves Christians?

No just repeating what Agrippa knows about the name the heathen at Antioch called the believers

You sure do notice that Paul didnt seize the opportunity to be called a Christian according to what Agrippa understood Christian to mean
but he opted for:
''... “Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains''

As earlier mentioned, the word Christian, did not originate from God, Jesus or any of the disciples,
and here is Paul, not latching on to an ample opportunity or not embracing the word in describing his mission with Agrippa

If you read the whole text with an open mind you will come to the conclusion that Paul was using strong persuassion to save King Agrippa's soul
but Festus, thought Paul is crazy, and Agrippa concluded that Paul was trying to persuade him to be a Christian
Paul was into the soul winning business, and no doubt some souls that listened were saved (i.e. became all that Paul is, except for the handcuffs)
shame, the big fish Agrippa slipped the bait off the hook, and ate without getting caught by the fisherman's line

And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?
Is anything worth more than your soul?
- Matthew 16:26

I rather tell it as it is, rather than speak for myself. Thank you very much.

Have you any resevations over that?
Are you not a son of God?
Oh, or are you still a child of God?

The ''morale-boosting'' compound or hyphenated word qualified it better and properly
but if you insist on one word, then we can settle with ENCOURAGEMENT

This leads us to asking: What is a Christian?

Answer: A dictionary definition of a Christian would be something similar to "a person professing belief in Jesus as the Christ or in the religion based on the teachings of Jesus." While this is a good starting point, like many dictionary definitions, it falls somewhat short of really communicating the biblical truth of what it means to be a Christian. The word "Christian" is used three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26; 26:28; 1 Peter 4:16). Followers of Jesus Christ were first called "Christians" in Antioch (Acts 11:26) because their behaviour, activity, and speech were like Christ. The word "Christian" literally means, "belonging to the party of Christ" or a "follower of Christ."

Unfortunately over time, the word "Christian" has lost a great deal of its significance and is often used of someone who is religious or has high moral values but who may or may not be a true follower of Jesus Christ. Many people who do not believe and trust in Jesus Christ consider themselves Christians simply because they go to church or they live in a "Christian" nation. But going to church, serving those less fortunate than you, or being a good person does not make you a Christian. Going to church does not make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile. Being a member of a church, attending services regularly, and giving to the work of the church does not make you a Christian.

The Bible teaches that the good works we do cannot make us acceptable to God. Titus 3:5 says, "He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit." So, a Christian is someone who has been born again by God (John 3:3; John 3:7; 1 Peter 1:23) and has put faith and trust in Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8 tells us that it is "…by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God."

A true Christian is a person who has put faith and trust in the person and work of Jesus Christ, including His death on the cross as payment for sins and His resurrection on the third day. John 1:12 tells us, "Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." The mark of a true Christian is love for others and obedience to God's Word (1 John 2:4, 10). A true Christian is indeed a child of God, a part of God's true family, and one who has been given new life in Jesus Christ.

Have you made a decision for Christ because of what you have read here? If so, please click on the "I have accepted Christ today" button below.
http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-a-Christian.html

The bottom line is that if you are not a Christian then you do not belong to the party of Christ.

OLAADEGBU:
What does it mean to be a born again Christian? How can I become a born again Christian?

http://www.gotquestions.org/born-again.html

Just believe that God create sons n they die for ur sins.... Den ur good to go.

OLAADEGBU:
This leads us to asking: What is a Christian?

When you are done with perambulating, please lead yourself back to the question you're avoiding to answer:
Did Paul explicitly call himself a Christian, did the early believers, disciples or Apostles explicitly called themselves Christians?

OLAADEGBU:
The bottom line is that if you are not a Christian then you do not belong to the party of Christ.

You might as well write that, the bottom line is that, if you are not a negro/nigger then you do not belong to the black race party

plappville:
Totally agree with you. But I believe that flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom. So this cancel the so-called "born again" christian on earth. Jesus is the "firstborn from the dead. The only one that has defeated death. There has not been any one else after him. So for the moment, no 2rd, 3rd nor 4th born from the dead yet Until the resurrection day.

Do you believe it is possible to see the Kingdom though without entering the Kingdom

Please study John 3:1-3 first before answering the question, by slowing reading but reading it out loud
Hope you notice how Nicodemus instigated Jesus switching the gear on Nicodemus
Jesus in responding to Nicodemus' admitted observances,
decided to up the ante from ''see'' to ''enter'' after Nicodemus brought in the issue of re-entering a mother's womb

plappville:
The restored church of God will tell you that. There are the one true church that christ has formed. That you must be thi3r member to make heaven

They have a right to their delusion

plappville:
The body of Christ is divided. Almost all claim to be the true while others are false. Ev3n the Baptist where i worship here in France. They have a doctrine am not agree with. But i just dont follow thier all doctrine. They have me look like i am not a true member. But this does not disturb me at all. I worship God not doing this to please any pastor.

The reality is that there is no denomination in the Kingdom

Indeed, the time is coming, and it is now here,
when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth.
The Father is looking for people like that to worship him.
- John 4:23

plappville:
I think the word Born again is only used within Nigeria.
I have never heard any christian in the West call themselves "born again ". They call themseĺves believers or christians

''born again'' is used worldwide
It is used in the Americas, West and Eastern Europe, Australia, Francophone countries in Africa etcetera

Other appendages used with the Christian tag for legitimacy and validity sake are:
spirit-filled, Bible-believing, tongue speaking, washed in the blood

MuttleyLaff:
Do you believe it is possible to see the Kingdom though without entering the Kingdom

Please study John 3:1-3 first before answering the question, by slowing reading but reading it out loud
Hope you notice how Nicodemus instigated Jesus switching the gear on Nicodemus
Jesus in responding to Nicodemus' admitted observances,
decided to up the ante from ''see'' to ''enter'' after Nicodemus brought in the issue of re-entering a mother's womb

They have a right to their delusion

The reality is that there is no denomination in the Kingdom

Indeed, the time is coming, and it is now here,
when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth.
The Father is looking for people like that to worship him.
- John 4:23

''born again'' is used worldwide
It is used in the Americas, West and Eastern Europe, Australia, Francophone countries in Africa etcetera

Other appendages used with the Christian tag for legitimacy and validity sake are:
spirit-filled, Bible-believing, tongue speaking, washed in the blood

they are mostly used by fanatic old members of their population and few ignorant young people.
most young Christians of these nations knows better
that these are all mere religious names which do not in anyway add to moral values But are mere titles
that it takes deliberate effort of learning and understanding in order to upgrade yourself morally, which is the most essential thing, not by calling yourself names like spirit filled, born again,tongue speaker , etc

paxonel:
Bros, God bless you for this
right now, no christian in countries of the real world uses the term "born again" again.
when you travel out you will notice this.
except for some primitive christians who never went to school

I bet You i have never heard anyone used it here. In Nigerian, everyone who goes to church is a born again. Just like they play with speaking in tongue, they also misuse the the born again thing.

MuttleyLaff:
Do you believe it is possible to see the Kingdom though without entering the Kingdom

Please study John 3:1-3 first before answering the question, by slowing reading but reading it out loud
Hope you notice how Nicodemus instigated Jesus switching the gear on Nicodemus
Jesus in responding to Nicodemus' admitted observances,
decided to up the ante from ''see'' to ''enter'' after Nicodemus brought in the issue of re-entering a mother's womb

I dont know if see through is possible. But i can understand that flesh and blood cannot see it. Seeing that after recieving the Holy spirit. We stil remain fleah and blood. How then can we see it.?

5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, (('You must be born again.')) 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

What does the wind here signify? The wind is invisable or can we see or hold the wind?

 

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Compare this varse to john 3:8
The question i want to ask you is this. After going this verse, I found out that Jesus could not make the kingdom of God too.. Or was He not in flesh when he ressuracted ?? Please help me out here thanks.

''born again'' is used worldwide
It is used in the Americas, West and Eastern Europe, Australia, Francophone countries in Africa etcetera

Other appendages used with the Christian tag for legitimacy and validity sake are:
spirit-filled, Bible-believing, tongue speaking, washed in the blood

No, bros. I have never heard Christian/believers used it here in the West. Am not missing words. Also, they dont speak in tongues anyhow here like in Nigeria. Abi na only Nigérians Holy ghost dey use?

plappville:
I bet You i have never heard anyone used it here. In Nigerian, everyone who goes to church is a born again. Just like they play with speaking in tongue, they also misuse the the born again thing.

i live in Nigeria, africa. we use the word born again to boast a lot.
infact we use it more than the name christian, because we feel that the name Christian is not righteous enough

paxonel:
i live in Nigeria, africa. We use the word born again to boast a lot

We live in a Culture of Narcissism

paxonel:
infact we use it more than the name christian, because we feel that the name Christian is not righteous enough

Different, different fever Christians na him dey
which is why certain members of the body of Christ have the need of using extra labels and tags for legitimacy and validity sake
Being a believer, a child or son of God in its intrinsic or ordinary sense isnt good enough without advertising, announcing or sounding off spirit-filled, Bible-believing, tongue speaking, washed in the blood qualifications

plappville:
I dont know if see through is possible. But i can understand that flesh and blood cannot see it. Seeing that after recieving the Holy spirit. We stil remain fleah and blood

This is why I suggested to not hastily respond back without reading and studying John 3:1-3 first

plappville:
...How then can we see it.?

After dark one evening, he came to speak with Jesus.
"Rabbi," he said,
"we all know that God has sent you to teach us.
Your miraculous signs are evidence that God is with you."
- John 3:2

Going back to John 3:2,
Nicodemus in John 3:2 managed to have seen somethings, admitted and confirmed the origin of what hes being seeing
but Jesus switched gear on Nicodemus, changed from ''see the Kingdom'' to ''enter the Kingdom'' only when Nicodemus was wrestling with the Born Again enter mother's womb
- it is a fact, we can see things of thing without entering the thing

plappville:
5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, (('You must be born again.')) 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

What does the wind here signify? The wind is invisable or can we see or hold the wind?

These are aftermaths, said in the context of entering the Kingdom and not in relation to seeing the Kingdom

Also the wind there was about a different thing, talking about the present wave or the another ''wave''
and it was said for the specific attention of a different audience who WERE present in that gathering (i.e. to the Pharisees or Far-to-Sees)

Think and reflect on verses like, and hopefully the Spirit of Truth will help out:

Mark 1:15, Matthew 4:17
and then compare with Luke 17:21

"The time promised by God has come at last!" he announced.
"The Kingdom of God is near!
Repent of your sins and believe the Good News!"
- Mark 1:15

From then on, Jesus began to tell people,
"Turn to God and change the way you think and act, because the kingdom of heaven is near!"
- Matthew 4:17

They can't say, 'Here it is!' or 'There it is!'
You see, the kingdom of God is within you."
- Luke 17:21

Lets pause here a bit and allow time for soaking in, this thing about separately seeing and entering

plappville:
1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Compare this varse to John 3:8
The question i want to ask you is this. After going this verse, I found out that Jesus could not make the kingdom of God too.. Or was He not in flesh when he ressuracted ?? Please help me out here thanks

Jesus is the firstborn of the dead with a glorified body which allows Him to enter the Kingdom
Believers are expected to have similar bodies for entry into the Kingdom too

He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like his own,
using the same power with which he will bring everything under his control.
- Philippians 3:21

paxonel:
i live in Nigeria, africa. we use the word born again to boast a lot.
infact we use it more than the name christian, because we feel that the name Christian is not righteous enough

I get your point man!

MuttleyLaff:
This is why I suggested to not hastily respond back without reading and studying John 3:1-3 first

After dark one evening, he came to speak with Jesus.
"Rabbi," he said,
"we all know that God has sent you to teach us.
Your miraculous signs are evidence that God is with you."
- John 3:2

Going back to John 3:2,
Nicodemus in John 3:2 managed to have seen somethings, admitted and confirmed the origin of what hes being seeing
but Jesus switched gear on Nicodemus, changed from ''see the Kingdom'' to ''enter the Kingdom'' only when Nicodemus was wrestling with the Born Again enter mother's womb
- it is a fact, we can see things of thing without entering the thing

Are you saying that Nicodemus saw the kingdom thats why He ask such questions?

These are aftermaths, said in the context of entering the Kingdom and not in relation to seeing the Kingdom

Also the wind there was about a different thing, talking about the present wave or the another ''wave''
and it was said for the specific attention of a different audience who present in that gathering (i.e. to the Pharisees or Far-to-Sees)

'seeing' and 'entering' are you indicating different sorts of actions in relation to the Kingdom of God?

8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

What do you understand by this? Of course he was talking to the same audience. Not a different.

Think and reflect on verses like, and hopefully the Spirit of Truth will help out:

Mark 1:15, Matthew 4:17
and then compare with Luke 17:21

"The time promised by God has come at last!" he announced.
"The Kingdom of God is near!
Repent of your sins and believe the Good News!"
- Mark 1:15

From then on, Jesus began to tell people,
"Turn to God and change the way you think and act, because the kingdom of heaven is near!"
- Matthew 4:17

They can't say, 'Here it is!' or 'There it is!'
You see, the kingdom of God is within you."
- Luke 17:21

Lets pause here a bit and allow time for soaking in, this thing about separately seeing and entering

The kingdom of God is within your midst. Meaning the Kingdom is on earth.

Jesus is the firstborn of the dead with a glorified body which allows Him to enter the Kingdom
Believers are expected to have similar bodies for entry into the Kingdom too

He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like his own,
using the same power with which he will bring everything under his control.
- Philippians 3:21

A Trinitarian wiĺl not agree with you on this.

plappville:
Are you saying that Nicodemus saw the kingdom thats why He ask such questions?

What was Nicodemus opening remark?
What does the remark suggest or mean?

plappville:
'seeing' and 'entering' are you indicating different sorts of actions in relation to the Kingdom of God?

Yes I am.
We see things other people are not seeing though we are looking at a thing at the same time

plappville:
8 The wind blows wherever it pleases.
You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going.
So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
What do you understand by this?

My understanding of it will be:
You hear the power or movement of the Spirit of God working. You cant tell where it comes from or where it is going
but if born of the Spirit just like Nicodemus you're able to see and admit the evidences of the Kingdom operating at any moment through the power or movement of the Spirit of God

plappville:
Of course he was talking to the same audience. Not a different

Apart from the doves present in the audience, there were also snakes and vultures there too
This part was for the brood of vipers and vultures in the audience
- the Pharisees were couldnt admit or acknowledge seeing the evidences of the Kingdom operating at that moment and they even were anticipating seeing the 2nd returning of Jesus

plappville:
The kingdom of God is within your midst. Meaning the Kingdom is on earth

The kingdom of God is within your midst. Meaning the Kingdom is on earth
Yes, the former part sounds like a paradox, doesnt it?
- the Kingdom is on earth but it isnt necessarily within alls midst or everyone's heart

plappville:
A Trinitarian wiĺl not agree with you on this

Which part will they have reservations over

MuttleyLaff:
When you are done with perambulating, please lead yourself back to the question you're avoiding to answer:

Did Paul explicitly call himself a Christian, did the early believers, disciples or Apostles explicitly called themselves Christians?

You might as well write that, the bottom line is that, if you are not a negro/nigger then you do not belong to the black race party

What is a true Christian?

Answer: According to Acts 11:26, the followers of Jesus were first called Christians at Antioch. Why were they called Christians? Because they were "followers of Christ." They had committed their lives to "walk as Jesus did" (1 John 2:6).

Other Scriptures explain how a person comes to faith in Jesus Christ and begins this relationship. For example, Ephesians 2:8-9 reveals that a person becomes a Christian by faith, not by following a list of rules or good works: "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." A true Christian has faith in Jesus as the Saviour.

Romans 10:9-10 says, "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved." A true Christian is unashamed to say Jesus is Lord and believes Jesus was resurrected from the dead.

First Corinthians 15:3 says this message of the resurrected Jesus is of "first importance." Without Jesus' resurrection our faith is "futile," and we are "still in [our] sins" (v. 7). A true Christian lives by faith in the resurrected Jesus (1 Corinthians 15:13-14).

Paul writes, "If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. . . . The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children" (Romans 8:9, 16). A true Christian has God's Holy Spirit living within.

The evidence of a true Christian is displayed in both faith and action. "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" (2 Corinthians 5:17). James says, "I will show you my faith by my works" (James 2:18). Jesus put it this way: "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life" (John 8:12). A true Christian will show his faith by how he lives.

Despite the wide variety of beliefs that fall under the general "Christian" label today, the Bible defines a true Christian as one who has personally received Jesus Christ as Saviour, who trusts in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ alone for forgiveness of sins, who has the Holy Spirit residing within, and whose life evinces change consistent with faith in Jesus.

http://www.gotquestions.org/true-Christian.html

MuttleyLaff:
What was Nicodemus opening remark?
What does the remark suggest or mean?

(You are answering question with questions. I wanted an answer not question. )

Yes I am.
We see things other people are not seeing though we are looking at a thing at the same time

( OK, sounds like the mystery operation of the Holy Ghost in the new birth.)

My understanding of it will be:
You hear the power or movement of the Spirit of God working. You cant tell where it comes from or where it is going
but if born of the Spirit just like Nicodemus you're able to see and admit the evidences of the Kingdom operating at any moment through the power or movement of the Spirit of God.

(How sure are you Nicodemus was already born of the Spirit when he asked if A MAN SHOULD GO INTO HIS MOTHER'S WOMB A SECOND TIME. the Spirit reveals to the Spirit. Clearly, we can see that Nicodemus didn’t know what Jesus was talking about. How then did He see through?) To see through and enter. We must be born again.) There are several occasions in the bible where prophets saw through. This is not the case here.

 ◄ John 3:3 ►
Jesus answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born again, he CANNOT "see" the kingdom of God

  John 3:5 ►
Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he CANNOT "enter" into the kingdom of God.

Apart from the doves present in the audience, there were also snakes and vultures there too
This part was for the brood of vipers and vultures in the audience
- the Pharisees were couldnt admit or acknowledge seeing the evidences of the Kingdom operating at that moment and they even were anticipating seeing the 2nd returning of Jesus

(I get you now, thanks for this piece.)

The kingdom of God is within your midst. Meaning the Kingdom is on earth
Yes, the former part sounds like a paradox, doesnt it?
- the Kingdom is on earth but it isnt necessarily within alls midst or everyone's heart

(True talk)

plappville:
(You are answering question with questions. I wanted an answer not question.)

I cant give you the answer. Sorry. Call it tough love, if you may. You need to do this all by yourself.
You need to ''jump out of the nest'' when you do jump, you'll face palm yourself from having a light bulb experience after answering the question yourself

plappville:
( OK, sounds like the mystery operation of the Holy Ghost in the new birth.)

Exactly
Two people looking at the same thing, both observing the same thing but only one seeing something, only one admitting seeing what was observed or aknowledged what was played out before them both

plappville:
(How sure are you Nicodemus was already born of the Spirit when he asked if A MAN SHOULD GO INTO HIS MOTHER'S WOMB A SECOND TIME. The Spirit reveals to the Spirit. Clearly, we can see that Nicodemus didn’t know what Jesus was talking about. How then did He see through?)

For the same reason above, I wont be answering this

plappville:
To see through and enter. We must be born again.)

You are jumbling two separate things together here.
Just because you cant enter, doesnt mean or imply you can't see

People see America, people watch America
but to enter America, to set foot on American soil in America, requires certain criteria being met

plappville:
There are several occasions in the bible where prophets saw through. This is not the case here.

Then you see things when the spirit falls or rests on you
You can't see things unless you are born from above (i.e. you are born again)

plappville:
◄ John 3:3 ►
Jesus answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born again, he CANNOT "see" the kingdom of God

Nicodemus had no problem with this verse
Re-read John 3:3 like this:
You are right Nicodemus, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born again, he CANNOT "see" the kingdom of God

plappville:
◄ John 3:5 ►
Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he CANNOT "enter" into the kingdom of God.

Jesus knew what Nicodemus was having a problem with and why he asked the question in John 3:4
Nicodemus was confused about the entering aspect, is it going to be his present body or would he have to return into his mother's womb for a re-birth?

Re-read John 3:5 like this:
You are right Nicodemus, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he CANNOT "enter" into the kingdom of God

Nicodemus was like, OK, I've seen the demonstration and power of the Kingdom, the question now is, how do I enter the Kingdom. What are the qualifications?
Remember Nicodemus was a Pharisee, and the Pharisees idea of what the Messiah and His Kingdom is or would be is different

Bottom line and to make a short work of this, no one is entering the Kingdom without a glorified body

The final reality of being born again, is when Christians of Faith are changed in the twinkling of an eye at the last trump, from mortal to immortal

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co_15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.




Believers of faith are born of God when they come to believe on Christ

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

MuttleyLaff:
I cant give you the answer. Sorry. Call it tough love, if you may. You need to do this all by yourself.
You need to ''jump out of the nest'' when you do jump, you'll face palm yourself from having a light bulb experience after answering the question yourself

Exactly
Two people looking at the same thing, both observing the same thing but only one seeing something, only one admitting seeing what was observed or aknowledged what was played out before them both

For the same reason above, I wont be answering this

You are jumbling two separate things together here.
Just because you cant enter, doesnt mean or imply you can't see

People see America, people watch America
but to enter America, to set foot on American soil in America, requires certain criteria being met

Then you see things when the spirit falls or rests on you
You can see things unless you are born from above (i.e. you are born again)

Nicodemus had no problem with this verse
Re-read John 3:3 like this:
You are right Nicodemus, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born again, he CANNOT "see" the kingdom of God

Jesus knew what Nicodemus was having a problem with and why he asked the question in John 3:4
Nicodemus was confused about the entering aspect, is it going to be his present body or would he have to return into his mother's womb for a re-birth?

Re-read John 3:5 like this:
You are right Nicodemus, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he CANNOT "enter" into the kingdom of God

Nicodemus was like, OK, I've seen the demonstration and power of the Kingdom, the question now is, how do I enter the Kingdom. What are the qualifications?
Remember Nicodemus was a Pharisee, and the Pharisees idea of what the Messiah and His Kingdom is or would be is different

Bottom line and to make a short work of this, no one is entering the Kingdom without a glorified body

Thank you for taking your time. No further argument. May God help us all.

chuna1985:
Just believe that God create sons n they die for ur sins.... Den ur good to go.

Who and how many sons died for your sins?

The title 'Christian'

The Title 'Christian' 

"Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf." (1 Peter 4:16)

The word "Christian" occurs only three times in Scripture and seems to have changed in its meaning from first to last. In the first instance, "the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:26). The name merely identified them as followers of Christ with no reproach intended.

The second usage was some years later, by which time the term was evidently well known, even among unbelievers. After Paul had witnessed to him, "Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian" (Acts 26:28). A more literal translation which renders the sentence "Do you try in such a short time to make a Christian of me?" indicates an air of superiority or incredulity in Agrippa's voice. It would take more than a short testimony to make a Christian of him.

As the years went by, the church began to be plagued by persecution. Our text indicates that even the name "Christian" was by then regarded with contempt and reproach. But Peter tells us that there is no shame involved in the name "Christian" or in following Christ. Peter, no doubt, recalled the shame he felt for denying the name of Christ, but he also recalled with thankfulness how that even though the Jewish council had "beaten them" and "commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus" (Acts 5:40), he and the other apostles departed "rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name" (v. 41).

Furthermore, we can "glorify God on this behalf," or "in this name." This implies more than just praising the name. We can glorify God in what we do--in how we live in that name. We can certainly also bring dishonor to the title "Christian" by our actions. A solemn responsibility is then ours, to bring honor and glory to God through our lives. JDM

OLAADEGBU:
Who and how many sons died for your sins?

None.

OLAADEGBU:
Who and how many sons died for your sins?

None.

chuna1985:
None.

The only begotten Son of God became the son of man so as to make man become sons of God and His name is Jesus. Will you receive Him today?.

"As many as received Him to them He gave the power to become the sons of God even to them that believe on His name" (John 1:12).

OLAADEGBU:
The only begotten Son of God became the son of man so as to make man become sons of God and His name is Jesus. Will you receive Him today?.

"As many as received Him to them He gave the power to become the sons of God even to them that believe on His name" (John 1:12).

lmao, Jesus ke. I already heard about jesus, He is a Jewish god. I only believe in the almighty God, Hes a God n does not have children.

chuna1985:
lmao, Jesus ke. I already heard about jesus, He is a Jewish god. I only believe in the almighty God, Hes a God n does not have children.

Jesus is the only way to the Almighty God. Come to Jesus and be saved. Jesus said:

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father, but by me" (John 14:6).

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus is the only way to the Almighty God. Come to Jesus and be saved. Jesus said:

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father, but by me" (John 14:6).

lmao. how did u know



Jesus died on the cross because he claimed God. I prefer to go to God directly instead of asking an acclaimed son for permission.

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus is the only way to the Almighty God. Come to Jesus and be saved. Jesus said:

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father, but by me" (John 14:6).

Wow what a low level of thought

chuna1985:
lmao. how did u know



Jesus died on the cross because he claimed God. I prefer to go to God directly instead of asking an acclaimed son for permission.

Come to think of it. You are travelling on a road that leads to God but you arrive at a junction which divides into two at the fork. At the entrance of both roads are two men, one is lying down dead and the other is alive standing. Who will you ask for directions?

ifeness:
Wow what a low level of thought

Same question goes to you. Who will you ask for directions?

OLAADEGBU:
Come to think of it. You are travelling on a road that leads to God but you arrive at a junction which divides into two at the fork. At the entrance of both roads are two men, one is lying down dead and the other is alive standing. Who will you ask for directions?

D road to God does not need asking questions to dead, cripple or mad men on the road.

chuna1985:
D road to God does not need asking questions to dead, cripple or mad men on the road.

Then follow the road sign, if you are wise.