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Shymm3x:
Lmao...TheGoodJoeHunt and his pseudo-football analysis.

Guardiola is overrated - he was just lucky to have been gifted one of the most talented Barca teams ever, with a Messi that's one of the greatest magicians to ever kick a football. When you have that, with a prime Xavi and Iniesta, as the nucleus of ya team - you would perform wonders. I honestly don't know what's special about the guy - he's the Chip Kelly of football, always trying to outsmart himself, with ridiculous junk. He has been at Bayern for over two seasons now - with a very talented team, how come he hasn't won anything, apart from the Bundesliga?

Anyway, back to ya point: the EPL today is better technically today than it has ever been. The only problem is that the other leagues have stepped up. When English clubs dominated Europe: Italian league was on the decline; German league lacked the required talents; and Spanish league had the flair but lacked the talent apart from Barca (Even Real Madrid was rebuilding after the Galacticos. Hence there was a vacuum for English club to fill with physical and direct football, that's effective with a bigger spending power. Nothing has changed apart from the rest catching up.

Chelsea of Drogba, Lampard and Ballack? - Nah, the best Chelsea team, the 04/05 Chelsea never had Drogba and Ballack...and Lampard played a limited but effective role on that team. The Chelsea of Drogba and Ballack was just more effective playing the 4-5-1 formation, with Drogba as the lone beast upfront...but I'd rank the Chelsea of last season higher than every other Chelsea, apart from the 04/05 Chelsea. And they did have their own bad spell - the only difference was that they always tend to grind out 1-0 victory most times due to grit, despite how ugly they played most time. That was the era where Chelsea was notorious for being boring, hence the name: boring, boring Chelsea. Don't develop amnesia now.

You mean the Liverpool of Xabi Alonso, Mascherano and Gerard that never won anything, apart from the flukey Champions league victory against AC Milan? That was an unstable era - with Benitez buying gazillion of players (about 300 players in total). If they hadn't sold Suarez - Liverpool would be far better today. But they've got a great young core and they just need one or two pieces - with a coach that understands how to play to players' strengths.

Please, this result was expected cos Mourinho has never performed well against Porto since he left the club in 2004. Let's not get carried away by this result and the draw at Newcastle. He has never won at Newcastle as well.

DollyParton1:
More like overused ur other LEG.

Shymm3x:
Loool. Naughty girl.

I'm a monk for now...the rest legs were just pushing 119kg and my body just got messed up afterwards.

bugzbunny:
Dats to show. How. Gud the Epl is...
Anyone. Can. Beat anyone
Get barca into the Epl..I bet u.. Best is to make top four.. They will lose to leicester city..everton.. Ètc

ollah1:
A. Madrid won the league two seasons ago, remember. In the past few years, three teams have won the La Liga, likewise EPL. So i believe you should know what you are typing

Shymm3x:
Lmao...TheGoodJoeHunt and his pseudo-football analysis.

Guardiola is overrated - he was just lucky to have been gifted one of the most talented Barca teams ever, with a Messi that's one of the greatest magicians to ever kick a football. When you have that, with a prime Xavi and Iniesta, as the nucleus of ya team - you would perform wonders. I honestly don't know what's special about the guy - he's the Chip Kelly of football, always trying to outsmart himself, with ridiculous junk. He has been at Bayern for over two seasons now - with a very talented team, how come he hasn't won anything, apart from the Bundesliga?

Anyway, back to ya point: the EPL today is better technically today than it has ever been. The only problem is that the other leagues have stepped up. When English clubs dominated Europe: Italian league was on the decline; German league lacked the required talents; and Spanish league had the flair but lacked the talent apart from Barca (Even Real Madrid was rebuilding after the Galacticos. Hence there was a vacuum for English club to fill with physical and direct football, that's effective with a bigger spending power. Nothing has changed apart from the rest catching up.

Chelsea of Drogba, Lampard and Ballack? - Nah, the best Chelsea team, the 04/05 Chelsea never had Drogba and Ballack...and Lampard played a limited but effective role on that team. The Chelsea of Drogba and Ballack was just more effective playing the 4-5-1 formation, with Drogba as the lone beast upfront...but I'd rank the Chelsea of last season higher than every other Chelsea, apart from the 04/05 Chelsea. And they did have their own bad spell - the only difference was that they always tend to grind out 1-0 victory most times due to grit, despite how ugly they played most time. That was the era where Chelsea was notorious for being boring, hence the name: boring, boring Chelsea. Don't develop amnesia now.

You mean the Liverpool of Xabi Alonso, Mascherano and Gerard that never won anything, apart from the flukey Champions league victory against AC Milan? That was an unstable era - with Benitez buying gazillion of players (about 300 players in total). If they hadn't sold Suarez - Liverpool would be far better today. But they've got a great young core and they just need one or two pieces - with a coach that understands how to play to players' strengths.

Please, this result was expected cos Mourinho has never performed well against Porto since he left the club in 2004. Let's not get carried away by this result and the draw at Newcastle. He has never won at Newcastle as well.

Shymm3x:
Lmao...TheGoodJoeHunt and his pseudo-football analysis.

Guardiola is overrated - he was just lucky to have been gifted one of the most talented Barca teams ever, with a Messi that's one of the greatest magicians to ever kick a football. When you have that, with a prime Xavi and Iniesta, as the nucleus of ya team - you would perform wonders. I honestly don't know what's special about the guy - he's the Chip Kelly of football, always trying to outsmart himself, with ridiculous junk. He has been at Bayern for over two seasons now - with a very talented team, how come he hasn't won anything, apart from the Bundesliga?

Anyway, back to ya point: the EPL today is better technically today than it has ever been. The only problem is that the other leagues have stepped up. When English clubs dominated Europe: Italian league was on the decline; German league lacked the required talents; and Spanish league had the flair but lacked the talent apart from Barca (Even Real Madrid was rebuilding after the Galacticos. Hence there was a vacuum for English club to fill with physical and direct football, that's effective with a bigger spending power. Nothing has changed apart from the rest catching up.

Chelsea of Drogba, Lampard and Ballack? - Nah, the best Chelsea team, the 04/05 Chelsea never had Drogba and Ballack...and Lampard played a limited but effective role on that team. The Chelsea of Drogba and Ballack was just more effective playing the 4-5-1 formation, with Drogba as the lone beast upfront...but I'd rank the Chelsea of last season higher than every other Chelsea, apart from the 04/05 Chelsea. And they did have their own bad spell - the only difference was that they always tend to grind out 1-0 victory most times due to grit, despite how ugly they played most time. That was the era where Chelsea was notorious for being boring, hence the name: boring, boring Chelsea. Don't develop amnesia now.

You mean the Liverpool of Xabi Alonso, Mascherano and Gerard that never won anything, apart from the flukey Champions league victory against AC Milan? That was an unstable era - with Benitez buying gazillion of players (about 300 players in total). If they hadn't sold Suarez - Liverpool would be far better today. But they've got a great young core and they just need one or two pieces - with a coach that understands how to play to players' strengths.

Please, this result was expected cos Mourinho has never performed well against Porto since he left the club in 2004. Let's not get carried away by this result and the draw at Newcastle. He has never won at Newcastle as well.

eni4real:
That is not entirely true because teams like Atletico Madrid, Valencia and Villarreal are also good. You can see that Celta Vigo punished Barcelona 4-1 even when Messi was on the pitch. What these teams simply lack is the financial power to bring many superstars to their team but when it comes to rudiment no team in the EPL can beat her chest against a team like Atletico.
Laliga simply the best!

TheGoodJoe:
You guys say the same thing. Guardiola was gifted the team.

It is not truetrue. When Guardiola took over Barca, they went two seasons without a trophy. He turned that team to the greatest club team in football history. That cannot be gifting but the handwork of a true football genius.

When I talked of the Drogba, Lampard, Ballack Chelsea, I was talking of the Chelsea that almost beat Guardiola's Barcelona. I did not say they were the greatest Chelsea team but a team that will crush this present Chelsea team.

kobonaire:
Yes, they had a magical just that year ... the EPL still has 4 solid teams that can legitimately win titles .... If only baba Wenger will spend a bit more.

kobonaire:
Yeah good point. I tried to follow La Liga last season but it just got boring with Barca's dominance. Maybe I'll pay attention this season with all the shake ups so far.

Shymm3x:
Lmao...TheGoodJoeHunt and his pseudo-football analysis.

Guardiola is overrated - he was just lucky to have been gifted one of the most talented Barca teams ever, with a Messi that's one of the greatest magicians to ever kick a football. When you have that, with a prime Xavi and Iniesta, as the nucleus of ya team - you would perform wonders. I honestly don't know what's special about the guy - he's the Chip Kelly of football, always trying to outsmart himself, with ridiculous junk. He has been at Bayern for over two seasons now - with a very talented team, how come he hasn't won anything, apart from the Bundesliga?

Anyway, back to ya point: the EPL today is better technically today than it has ever been. The only problem is that the other leagues have stepped up. When English clubs dominated Europe: Italian league was on the decline; German league lacked the required talents; and Spanish league had the flair but lacked the talent apart from Barca (Even Real Madrid was rebuilding after the Galacticos. Hence there was a vacuum for English club to fill with physical and direct football, that's effective with a bigger spending power. Nothing has changed apart from the rest catching up.

Chelsea of Drogba, Lampard and Ballack? - Nah, the best Chelsea team, the 04/05 Chelsea never had Drogba and Ballack...and Lampard played a limited but effective role on that team. The Chelsea of Drogba and Ballack was just more effective playing the 4-5-1 formation, with Drogba as the lone beast upfront...but I'd rank the Chelsea of last season higher than every other Chelsea, apart from the 04/05 Chelsea. And they did have their own bad spell - the only difference was that they always tend to grind out 1-0 victory most times due to grit, despite how ugly they played most time. That was the era where Chelsea was notorious for being boring, hence the name: boring, boring Chelsea. Don't develop amnesia now.

You mean the Liverpool of Xabi Alonso, Mascherano and Gerard that never won anything, apart from the flukey Champions league victory against AC Milan? That was an unstable era - with Benitez buying gazillion of players (about 300 players in total). If they hadn't sold Suarez - Liverpool would be far better today. But they've got a great young core and they just need one or two pieces - with a coach that understands how to play to players' strengths.

Please, this result was expected cos Mourinho has never performed well against Porto since he left the club in 2004. Let's not get carried away by this result and the draw at Newcastle. He has never won at Newcastle as well.

ollah1:
Man oh man, how is Guardiola lucky? He came to a team where he sold most starting players . Iniesta, Xavi and Messi where never starting players under Frank. He revolutionised Barca and the results proved that.

You proceeded saying he hasn't won anything besides bundesliga for Bayern, lol for God's sake he has won their FA cup and also UEFA super cup defeating Chelsea hence making Mou sell Lukaku. Mou is likewise overhyped cos he is yet to win any European trophy for Chelsea in his two tenures. He also have a third season problems. It's like a MTN, everywhere he goes.

This current Chelsea can never be like the Chelsea in his first tenure where players die on the pitch and morale is very high. Some fans are saying, it's the competition in the league that causes their woes in Europe, guess other teams don't even play in the league. They don't even have a league while you are saying other teams have stepped up their games. Stepping up games is by Ospina gifting Olympiacos a goal?

You guys will always find something to defend yourself just like Mou. Do you know what Mou said tonight after the loss?

HE 4KIN BLAMED CASILLAS

Shymm3x:
Can you believe I slept off, just when the game was about to start, I swear down?

Thank God I recorded it - should watch it tomorrow.

Madness.

Shymm3x:
Lool. Please, he never turned anything into the greatest club team in football history - he just worked within the confines of a programme/system developed by Johan Cruyff. And the only reason why the club became great was cos they had the right pieces at their peak to execute that system effectively: Messi, Iniesta, and Xavi as the nucleus. Wasn't it also the reason why the Spanish team was able to dominate world football? And was Guardiola also responsible for the success of Spain during that era?

Please, all Chelsea teams since Mourinho took over in 2004 either beat or almost beat Barca - nothing special. Heck, we also almost beat Barca in 2002 when Chelsea wasn't even a great club, at the quarter finals of the Champions league. We would've beaten them if not for Babayaro and the useless red card he received...and that Barca team was also supremely talented.

advocates:
The guy u quoted is actually a learner. Where was he when Liverpool, Man u and Chelsea were constantly in the semis and finals respectively. Like you said, epl is probably going through some transition, not forgetting its intensity and competitiveness.

ollah1:
Man oh man, how is Guardiola lucky? He came to a team where he sold most starting players . Iniesta, Xavi and Messi where never starting players under Frank. He revolutionised Barca and the results proved that.


You proceeded saying he hasn't won anything besides bundesliga for Bayern, lol for God's sake he has won their FA cup and also UEFA super cup defeating Chelsea hence making Mou sell Lukaku. Mou is likewise overhyped cos he is yet to win any European trophy for Chelsea in his two tenures. He also have a third season problems. It's like a MTN, everywhere he goes.

This current Chelsea can never be like the Chelsea in his first tenure where players die on the pitch and morale is very high. Some fans are saying, it's the competition in the league that causes their woes in Europe, guess other teams don't even play in the league. They don't even have a league while you are saying other teams have stepped up their games. Stepping up games is by Ospina gifting Olympiacos a goal?

You guys will always find something to defend yourself just like Mou. Do you know what Mou said tonight after the loss?

HE 4KIN BLAMED CASILLAS

TheGoodJoe:
Are you saying Chelsea of last season that PSG outplayed with a man down will beat Gus Hiddink's Chelsea of 2009?

No way.

bugzbunny:
I hate unecessary arguments Barca can hardly beat stoke city Take it to d bank....go rest.. U

Missy89:
Did you eat pounded yam? Makes u sleep u know?.

Told u chelsea was shite

ollah1:
You should have stopped watching UCL too since Barca dominated that too

Shymm3x:
Iniesta, and Messi were super young when Frank Rijkaard was there...and Xavi also wasn't a finished product back then. Xavi caught fire, when both Iniesta and Messi came into their own. Nothing to do with Guardiola.

The difference between Frank Rijkaard and Guardiola is that: Rijkaard played total football, with Ronaldinho as the nucleus and everything going through him. However, since Guardiola played/coached through the ranks at Barca - he just effected the Barca system, he's accustomed to...and he was lucky to have the right pieces to implement it effectively.

How come Guardiola hasn't won anything with Bayern cos the Bayern team is supremely talented (and they keep upgrading every season) and they won the Champions league before he got there?

Shymm3x:
Iniesta, and Messi were super young when Frank Rijkaard was there...and Xavi also wasn't a finished product back then. Xavi caught fire, when both Iniesta and Messi came into their own. Nothing to do with Guardiola.

kobonaire:
No UCL has excitement .... the their teams have up to par quality .... La Liga I feel sorry for the bottom half teams .... some of them have such dilapidated stadia, it almost looked like a secondary school's football stadium.

TheGoodJoe:
See as you are talking like if it is easy. Johann Cruyff reigned long before Guardiola. How come no one could do it? Guardiola could do it because he was a critical part of Johann Cruyff's system. He was the Fulcrum and captain of the team. He understood it and transformed Barca.

They were a back to back trophyless team that went on to win six trophies in one Calendar year. There is no way you can say that was not special. They were not just special, they outclassed Alex Ferguson's Manchester United in the final. The defending Champions. Give it to Guardiola. If Mourinho did that, you guys with scream through the roof.

Shymm3x:
Lol. Yes, the same Chelsea that didn't lose a game in the Champions league. PSG had a decent team last season.

Mou just never got the tactics right in the 2nd leg of that game. Don't forget the same team, without a decent striker, almost made it to the finals of the ECL the year before that - sloppy defence and Hazard cost us the game against Atleti.

ollah1:
A magical year?? Why are u disgracing yourself? A. Madrid has won more trophies in the last 4 years than all your so called solid teams. I stand to be corrected.
I need you to list those 4 solid teams.




Don't run away

advocates:
Your argument suffers in depth. What then do you regard the Laliga those seasons Man u, Liverpool and Chelsea won the covetous cup? Do you refer the laliga as worthless as you are trying to paint the epl? Not forgetting the 9 man Chelsea side that dismantle Baca at a point.

Shymm3x:
Not his reign - I was alluding to the Barca system created by Johann Cruyff. That was what produced the tiki taka. My boy, Luis Enrique, took over last season and he has won almost everything at Barca...including the Champions league. Would you also call him a great coach?

Alex Ferguson is also overrated. He was nothing special tactically - he just knew how to get the best out of his players. And he benefited from an era when Man Utd was far richer than other clubs - with only Arsenal to compete with for a long time. Leave Mr. Tomato Face out of this.

ollah1:
Iniesta and Messi were super young, it takes guts for a coach to believe in this so called super young players and also bracing up Xavi. If it wasn't Guardiola then who was it? You teams coach or what?

You keep writing nonsense , which cave did you come from to conclude Guardiola hasn't won anything? If he was winning all the trophies in Germany, you will still cry it's only Bayern that exists in the league.

Guardiola has more trophies than Mourinho since both of them took over three years ago. I guess Mou isn't overhyped. I also guess Mou isn't lucky.

If it was another man on that seat. You will be crying SACK THE MORE4KER.

Shymm3x:
Iniesta, and Messi were super young when Frank Rijkaard was there...and Xavi also wasn't a finished product back then. Xavi caught fire, when both Iniesta and Messi came into their own. Nothing to do with Guardiola.

The difference between Frank Rijkaard and Guardiola is that: Rijkaard played total football, with Ronaldinho as the nucleus and everything going through him. However, since Guardiola played/coached through the ranks at Barca - he just effected the Barca system, he's accustomed to...and he was lucky to have the right pieces to implement it effectively.

How come Guardiola hasn't won anything with Bayern cos the Bayern team is supremely talented (and they keep upgrading every season) and they won the Champions league before he got there?

Shymm3x:
Not his reign - I was alluding to the Barca system created by Johann Cruyff. That was what produced the tiki taka. My boy, Luis Enrique, took over last season and he has won almost everything at Barca...including the Champions league. Would you also call him a great coach?

Alex Ferguson is also overrated. He was nothing special tactically - he just knew how to get the best out of his players. And he benefited from an era when Man Utd was far richer than other clubs - with only Arsenal to compete with for a long time. Leave Mr. Tomato Face out of this.