safarigirl:
Every Nigerian is a backsliding Christian including the OP. You all need to stop thinking you're better than certain people, because you've judged yourself and pronounced yourself worthy of eternal life, doesn't mean God has done same. Judgment day will shock many people

freecocoa:
You know why it seems I am angry when I respond to you? Honestly your level of stupidity baffles me.

The only thing that happened is that I allowed myself reason, it's not like I've not always had questions or reasoned things, but as a christian, I didn't let my mind soar, I was constrained by fear, the only difference now is that I kicked fear to the curb.

Stop attributing disbelief in a god to misfortune befalling someone. It's very desperate and ignorant of you.

So you think christians too don't have fears too. Its de fear of unknown that pushes people to make wrong decision. God didn't give us de spirit of fear...(I know you know so complete it)


If I am attributing disbelief in a god to misfortune befalling someone then why is bill gate rich? And so other rich atheist God knew that some people won't believe in him so set natural laws(eg season,time,rewards etc) for everybody and special one for his children in addition to natural laws. That's why you see people in occult, unbelievers,atheist and even muslims excel on this earth because of the natural laws but they won't get the special things God has set aside for his children. Or can you buy cloths of lesser quality for your children then buy cloths of higher quality of cloths for other people's children, even if you buy quality for all, your own children must enjoy you first before others.

I know you won't still listen, we will continue another...

God still love you...

In case U don't kno people, Diez eternal life in Jesus which no other kingdom except d kingdom of God cn giv U, diez Joy n Liberty in his presence U will also get 2 experience his umimaginable power smtin U ve neva witnessed b4, Am A Living Testimony! D End is Here My Dear brethren, so therefore shall we continue in sin dat grace may abound? God 4bid! No repentance in Hell! Hv a grt day n may dis word make a Change in ur life, jesus Loves U all

emusmith:

whazit?

safarigirl:
whazit?

My way of saying Hi

emusmith:

My way of saying Hi

okay. How you doing?

safarigirl:
okay. How you doing?

Very well, how you?

ogaprime:


So you think christians too don't have fears too. Its de fear of unknown that pushes people to make wrong decision. God didn't give us de spirit of fear...(I know you know so complete it)


If I am attributing disbelief in a god to misfortune befalling someone then why is bill gate rich? And so other rich atheist God knew that some people won't believe in him so set natural laws(eg season,time,rewards etc) for everybody and special one for his children in addition to natural laws. That's why you see people in occult, unbelievers,atheist and even muslims excel on this earth because of the natural laws but they won't get the special things God has set aside for his children. Or can you buy cloths of lesser quality for your children then buy cloths of higher quality of cloths for other people's children, even if you buy quality for all, your own children must enjoy you first before others.

I know you won't still listen, we will continue another...

God still love you...

This doesn't make an iota of sense.

emusmith:

Very well, how you?

doing fine

emusmith:

Very well, how you?

doing fine

safarigirl:
doing fine

you back?

safarigirl:
Every Nigerian is a backsliding Christian including the OP. You all need to stop thinking you're better than certain people, because you've judged yourself and pronounced yourself worthy of eternal life, doesn't mean God has done same. Judgment day will shock many people

any christian who feel superior than others, he his not a real christian, God reject the pride and give grace to the humble says the bible.

freecocoa:
Pascal's wager, huh!

I take it you do know of the atheist's wager then, but if you don't, I'll let you in on it.

Since god is loving, kind and rewards good deeds(assuming god exists that is)then good deeds will leave a good legacy, therefore all one needs do is live a good life, which one doesn't need religion to achieve.

Again,a god can reward honest disbelief, which can be put in jeopardy by dishonest belief in the divine, which is basically what pascal's wager suggests.

it was the last two lines of your first comment that gave me much concern.
I mean, what you said there is a blasphemy, even the devil would never have ridiculed God in such a manner.

most people (atheists) grew to recognize, acknowledge God, but at some point in their life they left because of certain situations, challenges etc- not because they have or saw any tangible reason to say there's no God;

to tell you the truth, I have personally been through a lot of predicaments right from teen, such that can easily justify me if I say there's no God, but God forbid, and curse be upon me that I may open my mouth against the one that gave it to me. I believe and I know that there's a God in heaven.

to get closer to your comment, one needs pure "Christianity"(not religion) to do good (myself is a living witness/example from experience) against what you said. There's a different between religion and Christianity, although some of the world's religious leaders and the clergies have "failed God" and this as a result has contributed to all these doubt; but can we take it away from there, it is written plainly "whoever that seeks God shall find him,"

so where am I going, simply, being good (self righteous) without Christ will not lead you to anywhere, not until you accept him as your "personal" Lord and saviour.

"personal" remember

emusmith:
you back?

nope. Still in Asaba

TLrboss:


it was the last two lines of your first comment that gave me much concern.
I mean, what you said there is a blasphemy, even the devil would never have ridiculed God in such a manner.

most people (atheists) grew to recognize, acknowledge God, but at some point in their life they left because of certain situations, challenges etc- not because they have or saw any tangible reason to say there's no God;

to tell you the truth, I have personally been through a lot of predicaments right from teen, such that can easily justify me if I say there's no God, but God forbid, and curse be upon me that I may open my mouth against the one that gave it to me. I believe and I know that there's a God in heaven.

to get closer to your comment, one needs pure "Christianity"(not religion) to do good (myself is a living witness/example from experience) against what you said. There's a different between religion and Christianity, although some of the world's religious leaders and the clergies have "failed God" and this as a result has contributed to all these doubt; but can we take it away from there, it is written plainly "whoever that seeks God shall find him,"

so where am I going, simply, being good (self righteous) without Christ will not lead you to anywhere, not until you accept him as your "personal" Lord and saviour.

"personal" remember

Dude all this plenty talk doesn't affect what I'm saying here.

Since when is christianity not a religion? It's talking like this that makes it hard to flow with theists, see how you concluded that you have reason/proof to believe in god but the atheist doesn't have any to disbelieve in god, how does that sound to you? So basically, you believe it's challenges or certain situations that gave rise to atheism, pray tell what you even mean by challenges.

Really? The devil cannot be as blasphemous as I? I guess god must be regretting sending the devil away for his very little sin, had he known a greater devil(me) would sin more than lucifer. Makes you wonder if this god actually knows anything at all.

freecocoa:

This doesn't make an iota of sense.

Like I said, you won't listen...we will continue another day....thanks

He says the truth...i Know u re nt born again from ur response..all i want to say is JESUS LOVES YOU and wants to come into your heart..let him in

Nice one. Thank God for your Life

Horlufemi:

Christ living in you is not religion. We sabi ourselves

Go home mate..... You are drunk

aolumaxi:
peace bro.... the peace of God, which transcends all
understanding

Peace (or peace of mind) I have. So, it is not exclusive to those who believe in God. some of the most restive places in the world are also the most religious ones.

750 people died a few weeks ago trying to stone the "devil". Think about the irony.

next example please.

olayincar:


Hello itz not god. God

OK, sorry, it's God, my bad! now, here's my one finger salute to your God. Does that help?
Now that he is "God" and not god, please tell me the 10 things that you, as a believer has that Atheists don't.

MeandSum:


OK, sorry, it's God, my bad! now, here's my one finger salute to your God. Does that help?
Now that he is "God" and not god, please tell me the 10 things that you, as a believer has that Atheists don't.

Alot of things
First He will send u a comforter which is the Holy Spirit
Which an atheist can never have

spirit88:


1, eternal life (zoe)
2, gift of righteousness
3, gift of Holy spirit
4, all these brings to you all things needed on life if u can fully understand them

I know it took you quite sometime to come up with those 4, sad to say, but none of them is exclusive.

1) eternal life - first and second law of thermodynamics guarantees that

2) absolutely not exclusive to religion. In fact, because I know I can't blame the devil for whatever wrong I do I tend to avoid doing it in the first place. So, I am righteous based on my deed and not on the assumption of eternal righteousness based on illusion of the same.

3) what's the gift? speaking in tongue or what? I'll like to know.

4) not a point as I can see.

ogaprime:


So you think christians too don't have fears too. Its de fear of unknown that pushes people to make wrong decision. God didn't give us de spirit of fear...(I know you know so complete it)


If I am attributing disbelief in a god to misfortune befalling someone then why is bill gate rich? And so other rich atheist God knew that some people won't believe in him so set natural laws(eg season,time,rewards etc) for everybody and special one for his children in addition to natural laws. That's why you see people in occult, unbelievers,atheist and even muslims excel on this earth because of the natural laws but they won't get the special things God has set aside for his children. Or can you buy cloths of lesser quality for your children then buy cloths of higher quality of cloths for other people's children, even if you buy quality for all, your own children must enjoy you first before others.

I know you won't still listen, we will continue another...

God still love you...

This is pretty damning! Your God, who created everything according to you knew what he created wouldn't believe in him... one must be incompetent to a fault to "know" before hand and not fix it with a simple command or very very sadistic to go ahead with such.

Either way, the idea of such a person is not worthy of anyone's attention or respect.

I'm foolish that is why I need Christ everyday. Finally, the pharisees still exist.

JaySalvador27:
Same way Noah warned the people of old before the flood and they all laughed him to scorn...i see a replica happening here...My God forgive all ye blasphemers of your sins...He's very merciful, odawise some of you stiff-necked punk asses wont be alive today...God help us all.

With all due respect, Noah's story is one of those you shouldn't point out when talking about the might of your God.
An omniscient God (like all organized religions claim) would have fixed his mistakes during creation without resolving to mass murder to fix his own mistake.
What kind of monster is that? Estimates of world population back then when the flood was supposed to have happened range from a minimum of 5 million to a max of around 50 million on all the continents.

MeandSum:


This is pretty damning! Your God, who created everything according to you knew what he created wouldn't believe in him... one must be incompetent to a fault to "know" before hand and not fix it with a simple command or very very sadistic to go ahead with such.

Either way, the idea of such a person is not worthy of anyone's attention or respect.

Mr no god, keep dat one for your pocket, leave christians alone to foolishly follow God and you atheist follow your wise free thinker intellect.

I prefer to foolishly follow God now and if there is none,so be it. Than for me to be a wise atheist now and later enter bigger problem if God truly exist which I know He does...


Carry your self-wisdom dey go...

Thank you....

ogaprime:


Mr no god, keep dat one for your pocket, leave christians alone to foolishly follow God and you atheist follow your wise free thinker intellect.

I prefer to foolishly follow God now and if there is none,so be it. Than for me to be a wise atheist now and later enter bigger problem if God truly exist which I know He does...


Carry your self-wisdom dey go...

Thank you....

So, your justification for believing in God is your fear of eternal damnation (basically, a Pascal's Wager)? someone already pointed this out a few post above and we've talked about this for years on this board that Pascal's Wager doesn't add up.

malvisguy212:
my brother, I learn that if you click no they will ban you from commenting in their section forever so I click yes just to bring the gospel to the muslims as Paul say here:

1 Corinthians 9:19: “For though I am free from all men, I have made myself A SERVANT TO ALL, THAT I MIGHT WIN THE MORE; 20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ) , that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.”

Paul was a interlingent man , this is the best way to reach out to the heathen , those who can kill to save their religion, this is the best way to reach out to them. He divides the world into the religious with the law, (Jews) and the Gentiles, without the law.(although Paul was a Jew) .

Sometyms I wonder what people see in dose silly religion....

Whr in d passage dd paul mention MUSLIMS Dis is exactly how religious fight starts!! Why do yu av 2 say anoda religion dat is also serving a god is wrong wen yu dnt evn av d proof dat ur own god also exists? SMH


You are all walkin in d dark

Jadonjack:


Sometyms I wonder what people see in dose silly religion....

Whr in d passage dd paul mention MUSLIMS Dis is exactly how religious fight starts!! Why do yu av 2 say anoda religion dat is also serving a god is wrong wen yu dnt evn av d proof dat ur own god also exists? SMH


You are all walkin in d dark

The phrase "ALL PEOPLE " what does it mean ?.There are proof of God existence but atheists will not agree because they are being manipulated by satan .

malvisguy212:

The phrase "ALL PEOPLE " what does it mean ?.There are proof of God existence but atheists will not agree because they are being manipulated by satan .

SMH!!!

malvisguy212:

The phrase "ALL PEOPLE " what does it mean ?.There are proof of God existence but atheists will not agree because they are being manipulated by satan .

what's the proof?