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SAMBARRY:
Madam coco what of those pudah women that wear overall black curtains from head to toe. How come their outfits hasn't protected them from rape. I mean the ones that cover their nose and mouth, wear black socks and black gloves. The only thing outside is their eyes. How come those ones too aren't exempted.


You people should say the truth and let the devil be ashamed

Well maybe they looked at the rapist somehow and made them filled with lust.

Whatever. they must have done something to attract the lust of the rapist.

Abeg hapu m aka sambarry.

cococandy:
Well maybe they looked at the rapist somehow and made them filled with lust.

Whatever. they must have done something to attract the lust of the rapist.

Abeg hapu m aka sambarry.

I understand you well now
btw what is hapu maka?

SAMBARRY:
I understand you well now
btw what is hapu maka?

Hapu m aka= leave me jare.

cococandy:
Hapu m aka= leave me jare.

I hold you before

this albino sef

don't worry i am not into women

SAMBARRY:
I hold you before

this albino sef

don't worry i am not into women

Me. albino?

SAMBARRY:
Edi edi.edi baby

nawaya o.why will you deliberately be dangling bananas in front of a monkey. Anyway I jump am pass.i refuse to fall into such temptation

ok so to the question "will I allow a male to baff wura"?
you already know the answer na

no no, never and neverest.it is not possible. Being that as it may based on the examples you gave, it's safe for us to say that it is God that protects kids from hawks and yeah I saw valid points in your example

as for that yeye yash that one is displaying for the general public, that one is a story for another day

Okay.
You know why I chose to have this conversation with you? Because you can be both,sarcastic and reasonable.Please leave the sarcasm at the door or for the likes; i need a mature conversation and too bad some of the ladies i would have love to discuss with are busy.I am off today.

As you can see in my opening,i said why i think indecent dressing is and isn't but i wanted to focus more on the title itself and went on to give some facts.That's how i learned to discuss in my assignments .You said you saw valid points in my post but fail to talk about them?Why won't you allow a male to bath wura?After all she is a child innit?Nothing provocative about her,her unclothedness will not mean anything to a man.

Thank God MarvellousGod opening was it's one of the cause,i guess they didn't see that.... let blame,condemn and play the victim card after all it is always someone's fault.Nigerian mentality.

Please MarvellousGod i want you to expatiate on why you think indecent dressing is one of the cause of rape.Let's focus on that alone.

There is this article i find very educative as we want to focus more on those countries where men where born seeing women wearing pudah yet still rape the women.Here is someone who actually had a sound EDUCATION .

Living an entire lifetime as a walking, talking 100-gallon black garbage bag is suppose to represent some kind of ‘honor’ and piety. But none of these enormous sacrifices has helped Muslim women.

Islam, Muhammad, mosques, five prayers per day, rigid control of their religious duties hasn’t done one thing to transform the Muslim male to a normal human being or a normal man. On the contrary, the Muslim male according to statistics is the most violent, oppressive, forceful and deranged human beast on earth. They also rule the world’s highest rape incidents – which seem to coordinate with rape statistics in the West that are dominated by Muslims.

All these facts and statistics according to collected studies on crimes against women around the world in collaboration with various non-profit organizations that deal with these issues on a daily basis. Other studies have shown that Muslim majority nations are afflicted with amongst the highest drug rate, homosexuality rate, murder rate, and sodomy rate.

Prophet Mohammed must be proud..

Related:

— Maghreb viewers react to Saudi woman poet’s on-screen activism
— Rape in Saudi Arabia: Reporter Has Eye-Opening Conversation with Young Saudi Males
— Saudi Rape Case Spurs Calls for Reform
— In the name of God: the Saudi rape victim’s tale
— Saudi: Why we punished rape victim. In CNN November 20, 2007
— Saudi celebrity cleric raped and murdered his 5-year old daughter because he doubted her virginity

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(Statistics) Muslim countries obsessed with women’s honor have the highest rape scales in the world

from WomanStats Project | by TS

Saudi Arabia is considered one of the most conservative countries in the world, especially in regard to the status of women. Saudi Arabia is an extreme Islamic country where its legal code is based on Shari’a Law. They therefore believe that there is no separation between church and state and the state’s laws are heavily based on Islamic teachings. Because of this strict Islamic culture, women in Saudi Arabia are treated and acknowledged very differently than the women who live in the west. For example, in Saudi Arabia, there are laws that require women to wear a hijab, a head scarf, as well as dress in loose, long garments that do not show the shape of the woman’s body. To do so would be shameful and secular. There are other laws such as this one that are meant to protect the virtue of women in Saudi Arabia.

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Knowing this about Saudi Arabia, I had assumed that women there would be relatively safe since there are such strict laws regarding the protection of a woman’s virtue. I assumed incorrectly when I was studying a WomanStats map that displayed the rape scale of each country in the world. On a scale from one to five, Saudi Arabia had a ranking of a four. I was confused by this since, as briefly described above, Saudi Arabia is considered one of the most conservative countries in the world where women are highly secluded. I would have thought these practices and laws would have decreased the rape rate substantially.

The question I pose then is this, why does Saudi Arabia, one of the most conservative countries in the world have one of the highest rape scales in the world?

While there are many interconnecting reasons why rape occurs so often in Saudi Arabia, I have chosen four possible causes to narrow down the research for this project. The four causes I have chosen are one, a secular society, two, insufficient laws, three, taboos against reporting rape and four, an ineffective judicial system.

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Secular Society

The first cause, a secular society, was quickly dismissed because as was mentioned in the introduction, Saudi Arabia is considered one of the most conservative countries in the world. The society of Saudi Arabia is especially conservative when it comes to women. For example, it is illegal for women to drive or intermingle in public with males that are not related to them. It is also illegal for a woman to go out in public without a male-escort who is related to her as well as go out in public without wearing her hijab (WomanStats). Violence or legal prosecution usually ensues if any of these are broken. To further illustrate this point, the following maps show how strict Saudi Arabia is in regard to dress code and intermingling in public laws compared to the rest of the Middle East, a very conservative region itself.


It is clear from these maps that Saudi Arabia has one of the strictest dress codes and intermingling laws in the Middle East which is the most conservative region in the world. Based on these findings, one would sense that these women are highly secluded from society and thereby would be more protected from instances of rape and other forms of violence. On the other hand, one may argue that because women are treated so differently, they could be seen as inferior and thus suffer more abuse because of the lack of secularism.

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Insufficient Laws Against Rape

The next probable cause studied was the possibility of insufficient laws against rape in Saudi Arabia. Since there were reported convictions of rapists, it can be assumed that there are laws against rape. Also, Saudi Arabia’s legal code is based on the Shari’a law, which criminalizes rape as punishable by death. However, spousal rape is not included in this criminalization according to Shari’a law. Although these laws exist against rapists, the actual conviction process is complicated and nearly impossible. In order for a perpetrator to be convicted he or she must confess or there must be four witnesses of the act (FreedomHouse). Usually in these certain circumstances, there are only two witnesses present, the perpetrator and the victim. Since it would be hard for a victim to find four witnesses, it is very unlikely that a perpetrator would admit to such a heinous act that he or she could very well get away with. Another example of the insufficient laws against rape is that foreign female domestic workers, which consists of 1.5 million of foreign nationals, receive no protection from the labor laws and are more prone to be victims of abuse. Based on this research, it can be concluded that while there are laws against rape, the actual conviction of rapists is very rare. This could be a plausible cause of the high rape scale since the punishment of such an act hardly occurs.

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Taboos Against Reporting Rape

The third possible cause of a high rape scale in Saudi Arabia is the taboos against reporting rape. There are many social stigmas that scare women away from reporting a rape to the police. [b]One social stigma is that in many instances, the law enforcer will accuse the woman of having illicit sex instead of accusing the man of the crime (FreedomHouse). As a consequence of this accusation, societal reprisals take place such as a woman being seen as unfit for marriage or even violently punished for bringing shame to the family. In some extreme cases, honor killings have been committed against women who have been raped (Zoepf). One may wonder why these crimes take place if the laws in Saudi Arabia are supposedly meant to protect women. There is another cultural stigma that plays a role here. In Islamic society, a family’s honor, particularly the male family member’s honor is based on the purity and virtue of the women in their family. If a woman in the family becomes “violated” either by choice or by force, the family’s honor is seemingly stripped from them. It is not so much about the concern over the woman but over the honor of the men. Because of this engrained belief, already victimized women are sometimes further victimized by their own family members. This causes great fear among the women in these types of societies and if one is raped, it is very unlikely that she will report it based on the potential ensuing consequences.[/b]

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Ineffective Judicial System

The last possible cause studied was an ineffective judicial system. As was mentioned before, Saudi Arabia’s legal code is based on the Shari’s law, an extreme version of the Islamic code. Because of this, women are not given the same rights as men, especially when it comes to the courts. For example, in most cases, women are unable to speak for themselves in court. They must be represented by a male-relative or lawyer. It is considered shameful for a woman to speak to the sheik or judge and is only sometime allowed to do so if her face is covered (WomanStats). Because of this, if a woman is raped, and a man’s honor is based on her virtue, what male relative would want to shed further light on the subject by representing her? Also a man’s testimony is worth two women’s testimonies. So if a woman had four witnesses to testify against the perpetrator, if some of them were women, the number of females would have to be doubled for the accusation to be considered.

Another clause of the judicial system is that most clerics were taught in Wahhabi schools where extreme Islam is taught extensively. Because of this, most clerics demand the seclusion of women and often hold an unforgiving attitude toward accusations of violence against men (WomanStats). A Saudi Arabian attorney even said, “Unfortunately, judges consider women to be lacking in reason and faith, so generally do not agree with her arguments” (HumanRights).

The following stories illustrate the point explained above. [b]The first is about a young girl who was being molested by her father. She went to the courts to file a complaint. The law enforcers did not believe her and told her, her father needed to come in to file the complaint (Economist). The obvious ignorance need not be explained in this situation. The next story tells of a nineteen year-old woman who met a man not related to her in a car. They were both kidnapped by a gang and she was then gang-raped fourteen times. Seven men of the gang were convicted and were sentenced to prison ranging from one to five years. This was a light conviction given they could have received the death penalty according to the law. The woman was also convicted to six months of prison as well as ninety lashes for being associating with a male who was not related to her in public (Harrison). The woman was later pardoned by the King of Saudi Arabia, not because he disagreed with the punishment but because he was being merciful and thought it was best for the whole of the country, not to mention international relations with countries that were in an absolute uproar over the ordeal (Zoepf).

Based on my research I propose that the main perpetrator of the high rape-scale in Saudi Arabia is the lack of conviction of rapists due to the taboos against reporting rape and the ineffective judicial system. If perpetrators are not being punished then there is little incentive to not rape woman if that is the desire. To illustrate how low the conviction rate actually is, in 2002, there were 59 reported rapes out of a population of 26,534,504 (WomanStats) The perpetrators are getting away with a heinous crime and the Saudi Arabian government must pass more effective legislation that enables law enforcers to convict those criminals. The social stigmas will be very difficult to overcome regarding seeing a woman unfit for marriage or taking away the family’s honor because of being raped. However, if women continue to speak up about the issues they face, solutions will come, just as they have in other parts of the world. Also international pressure must always be present to give those women courage to stand up.[/b]

—By TS

PLEASE READ

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Disclaimer:This is to show why in those countries where women covered up from head to toe still get raped.But is this applicable to countries like Nigeria and the west?
cc:kimoni

The answer is PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE.

My ear and eyes are over full to the brim with enough nairaland stories that is enough to give you permanent diarrhoea

I don't know what is sexy or provocative inside kids and I asked some big boys of nl to describe what's sexy inside kids since they are seeing what I'm not seeing

as per the valid points you made, the koko of all the things you were saying is emphasizing prevention. Those were valid.

However you failed to talk about the causes of rape because I believe no one was born a rapeest and please don't tell me because she was wearing come and have me kind of outfit. Give me substantial reason! That is all

next

edwife:
Okay.
You know why I chose to have this conversation with you? Because you can be both,sarcastic and reasonable.Please leave the sarcasm at the door or for the likes; i need a mature conversation and too bad some of the ladies i would have love to discuss with are busy.I am off today.

As you can see in my opening,i said why i think indecent dressing is and isn't but i wanted to focus more on the title itself and went on to give some facts.That's how i learned to discuss in my assignments .You said you saw valid points in my post but fail to talk about them?Why won't you allow a male to bath wura?After all she is a child innit?Nothing provocative about her,her unclothedness will not mean anything to a man.

Thank God MarvellousGod opening was it's one of the cause,i guess they didn't see that.... let blame,condemn and play the victim card after all it is always someone's fault.Nigerian mentality.

Please MarvellousGod i want you to expatiate on why you think indecent dressing is one of the cause of rape.Let's focus on that alone.

There is this article i find very educative as we want to focus more on those countries where men where born seeing women wearing pudah yet still rape the women.Here is someone who actually had a sound EDUCATION .




PLEASE READ

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Disclaimer:This is to show why in those countries where women covered up from head to toe still get raped.But is this applicable to countries like Nigeria and the west?
cc:kimoni

SAMBARRY:


The answer is PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE.

My ear and eyes are over full to the brim with enough nairaland stories that is enough to give you permanent diarrhoea

I don't know what is sexy or provocative inside kids and I asked some big boys of nl to describe what's sexy inside kids since they are seeing what I'm not seeing

as per the valid points you made, the koko of all the things you were saying is emphasizing prevention. Those were valid.

However you failed to talk about the causes of rape because I believe no one was born a rapeest and please don't tell me because she was wearing come and have me kind of outfit. Give me substantial reason! That is all

next

I failed to give you the cause of rape? did you even read my post? the article i put up there? Was the question about the cause of rape or indecent dressing?

By the way,thank you for the embolden bit.That's what i am trying to communicate ever since.

edwife:
I failed to give you the cause of rape? did you even read my post? the article i put up there? Was the question about the cause of rape or indecent dressing?

I haven't read the article however I will.

I replied based on what you quoted me on . I'll beback to read the aarticle and reply you accordingly. Let me finish what I'm doing here first

cococandy:
Well maybe they looked at the rapist somehow and made them filled with lust.

Whatever. they must have done something to attract the lust of the rapist.

Abeg hapu m aka sambarry.

Making a mockery of those salient points about rapes isn't funny at all.

People should be able to minimize their risk level in a society that is awashed with all manner of vile and abominable people and let the society know exactly how to tackle a particular problem .

You're aware that a particular neighborhood is dangerous yet you ended taking a stroll in the same neighborhood dressed like a slut - What were you suggesting ? Suggestive body language can send any kind of signal to a sick mind with a warped ideology and a flawed core value system.
This isn't to advocate for rapists - If anyone rapes my own I'll use every available means to get even with no atom of remorse.

Oh please.

First I don't tell people how to dress. If they are adults it's their business.

Secondly and more importantly emphasizing on dressing as a way to prevent rape is just ridiculous because it hasn't protected anyone from a rapist.not one person.

and more annoying is that it shifts focus from where the real blame because even as we are all acting like we mean well, it sends the wrong message. That one's dressing can make them deserve rape. Or that somehow the rapist isn't entirely 100% to blame.

Whether we like it or not, that's the message all this subtle encouragement to dress well to avoid rape gives. That's how the human psych works.
That's why people have learned to blame the victims when such things happens. That's what we taught them without knowing.

If it was even said for some other reason like "you look better when dressed covered" it will be a more worthwhile message IMO than saying it is to prevent rape.

I'm kinda tired of this nonsense conversation btw.
Overflogged and getting redundant.

So if you'd leave me to my opinions and stick to yours. You know.

Truckpusher:
Making a mockery of those salient points about rapes isn't funny at all.

People should be able to minimize their risk level in a society that is awashed with all manner of vile and abominable people and let the society know exactly how to tackle a particular problem .

You're aware that a particular neighborhood is dangerous yet you ended taking a stroll in the same neighborhood dressed like a slut - What were you suggesting ? Suggestive body language can send any kind of signal to a sick mind with a warped ideology and a flawed core value system.
This isn't to advocate for rapists - If anyone rapes my own I'll use every available means to get even with no atom of remorse.

cococandy:
Oh please.

Of course that's the way it is.

When you study your environment and the recent happenings it is important to take step to avoid being a victim.

I was talking with a female colleague and she enquired about my movement and I told her that I'm headed home straight and we live in the same neighborhood.So , she asked me to help her send some physical cash to a known associate who would come around to pick the cash but I refused telling her that I don't carry physical cash that is above 400,000 she laughed and taunted me " Na small money you dey fear to carry for motor" ! What I'm saying is I've seen severally where people have been gunned down over a paltry sum of money and they died for nothing and these crimes have become a reoccurrence in this part of the world - It would be stupidity on my own part to put myself in any awkward position that might attract the same scenario .
Know your place and live according to the dictates of your immediate environment else you'll end up as a statistic.

I'm sorry I don't see it that way.

Two different perspectives going on here. We will eventually agree to disagree which kind of makes me think "is it even worth starting in the first place"?.

Well the carrying cash around example has been overplayed a tad. If you don't mind my saying it.

If someone was gonna try to rob you, it's either they find money on you or they don't. In either case they'd have to come close to you first, attack you first before getting to the money.
Whether you hid it in your boxers or are carrying it on your head.

For rape, if the person gets close enough to attack you, whether you're wearing long dress or short one, it won't save you. Might as well leave the body in a safe at home and go out spiritually that's if we see the carrying cash around thing as a befitting analogy. I don't think the two match.

Now also this would be if we talking of random rape by a stranger on the street like a pair of goats mating by the roadside. Like that happens all the time?
What happens more is that people you trust enough to be in a private setting with are the ones who will rape you 95% of the time.
Friends, classmate, uncle, neighbor and what have you.Tell me how dressing can save one in such a situation.

If dressing is one of the causes of rape, that means there's thousands other causes. Why aren't we addressing them? Why the constant emphasis on dressing if not people's constant need to police women up and down?

In my opinion given the circumstances under which most rape occur, it has nada to with dressing.
E.g
At a friend's house
At a house party
In your neighbor's apartment.
Maid By the oga when madam isn't around.
I can go on and on and the last example that would come to mind is by a stranger on the street who happened to be attracted by your flimsy dressing.

That's why even though I don't dress in what's considered indecent by most people's standards and personally find some skimpy wears to be fashionably distasteful, I don't think it we should emphasize on dressing as preventive measure for rape. It sets a dangerous precedence.
Where the crime is eventually made to look minor because the victim had a hand in it.

That's just my point.

Truckpusher:
Of course that's the way it is.

When you study your environment and the recent happenings it is important to take step to avoid being a victim.

I was talking with a female colleague and she enquired about my movement and I told her that I'm headed home straight and we live in the same neighborhood.So , she asked me to help her send some physical cash to a known associate who would come around to pick the cash but I refused telling her that I don't carry physical cash that is above 400,000 she laughed and taunted me " Na small money you dey fear to carry for motor" ! What I'm saying is I've seen severally where people have been gunned down over a paltry sum of money and they died for nothing and these crimes have become a reoccurrence in this part of the world - It would be stupidity on my own part to put myself in any awkward position that might attract the same scenario .
Know your place and live according to the dictates of your immediate environment else you'll end up as a statistic.

Indecent dressing is no reason to rape.Like some people have observed,don't make yourself vulnerable especially when you know your environment.

I just finished reading the article and it was insightful. Therefore going by the article its obvious that Saudi Arabia is very similar to Nigeria except for the fact that sharia laws are more entrenched in the northern part of Nigeria.

Women in Nigeria are too ashamed to own up that they have been raped because they don't want to be divorced by their husbands, remain unmarried or be looked down on as pitiable and despicable by the society

even if the woman takes the matter to court if the family of the man can give the judge a fat brown envelope, even if the victim brings all the evidence to show she's been raped, oyo is her case

so there are many factors that come to play. I don't know if you remember a girl who was raped by a lecturer who the parents claimed was helping her process admission into the university he's a lecturer in


if you read that thread here on nl.the first poster was like what did she wear to the lecturers office that made him to rape her. People just like over emphasising on clothes alone.

I believe there's more to incessant rape than just clothes and strict sharia laws

edwife:
Okay.
You know why I chose to have this conversation with you? Because you can be both,sarcastic and reasonable.Please leave the sarcasm at the door or for the likes; i need a mature conversation and too bad some of the ladies i would have love to discuss with are busy.I am off today.

As you can see in my opening,i said why i think indecent dressing is and isn't but i wanted to focus more on the title itself and went on to give some facts.That's how i learned to discuss in my assignments .You said you saw valid points in my post but fail to talk about them?Why won't you allow a male to bath wura?After all she is a child innit?Nothing provocative about her,her unclothedness will not mean anything to a man.

Thank God MarvellousGod opening was it's one of the cause,i guess they didn't see that.... let blame,condemn and play the victim card after all it is always someone's fault.Nigerian mentality.

Please MarvellousGod i want you to expatiate on why you think indecent dressing is one of the cause of rape.Let's focus on that alone.

There is this article i find very educative as we want to focus more on those countries where men where born seeing women wearing pudah yet still rape the women.Here is someone who actually had a sound EDUCATION .




PLEASE READ

______________

Disclaimer:This is to show why in those countries where women covered up from head to toe still get raped.But is this applicable to countries like Nigeria and the west?
cc:kimoni

For those arguing that indecent dressing has nothing to do with rape and by itself is unimportant. Please can they tell us what the real problem is and how it can be solved? All I keep reading is that indecent dressing has nothing to do with rape, but they never mention the real cause.

Bottom-line, people are told to be vigilante and keep safe. Don't go to dangerous areas at night, dress modestly and if possible walk with a guy to some places.

We live with a world where there is crime. We cannot wish that aware. Crime cannot be justified, but even with a death penalty, people will still commit crime. No wonder people still bring drugs into Indonesia even with a death penalty. Sorry crime will always be there, no matter the penalty and crime cannot be justified. Each person has to protect themselves in every way against crime.

And let us not limit this to the Nigeria society. Rape is a global phenomenon.

TooNoisy:
For those arguing that indecent dressing has nothing to do with rape and by itself is unimportant. Please can they tell us what the real problem is and how it can be solved? All I keep reading is that indecent dressing has nothing to do with rape, but they never mention the real cause.

Bottom-line, people are told to be vigilante and keep safe. Don't go to dangerous areas at night, dress modestly and if possible walk with a guy to some places.

We live with a world where there is crime. We cannot wish that aware. Crime cannot be justified, but even with a death penalty, people will still commit crime. No wonder people still bring drugs into Indonesia even with a death penalty. Sorry crime will always be there, no matter the penalty and crime cannot be justified. Each person has to protect themselves in every way against crime.

People rape women in purdah and rape underage children.Some men rape total strangers who are fully clothed before the incident.You see it's not the unclothedness,it's first the mind of the rapist.

thorpido:
People rape women in purdah and rape underage children.Some men rape total strangers who are fully clothed before the incident.You see it's not the unclothedness,it's first the mind of the rapist.

You cannot control the mind of a rapist but you can reduce the exposure you have to that mind. There was a thread sometime back whether mothers would allow male househelp bath their female daughters. The resounding answer was NO. The fact that rapists rape clothed underage children does not mean we should then expose our children naked to them. We should all take precautions that will keep us safe including where we go and when we go out and even what we wear.

TooNoisy:
You cannot control the mind of a rapist but you can reduce the exposure you have to that mind. There was a thread sometime back whether mothers would allow male househelp bath their female daughters. The resounding answer was NO. The fact that rapists rape clothed underage children does not mean we should then expose our children naked to them. We should all take precautions that will keep us safe including where we go and when we go out and even what we wear.

I guess we all agree on the need to take precaution and exercise decorum when it comes to dressing.The question is on whether that is the cause for rape which is a no.There are people who do not in any way dress suggestively and yet get raped.

thorpido:
I guess we all agree on the need to take precaution and exercise decorum when it comes to dressing.The question is on whether that is the cause for rape which is a no.There are people who do not in any way dress suggestively and yet get raped.

What the OP asked is whether indecent dressing is a cause for rape and not the cause of rape. They are two different things. There is no single cause of rape, many things could cause rape; one of which can be indecent dressing. What I am saying is that dressing provocatively may just be that little thing that could trigger a potential rapist.

TooNoisy:
What the OP asked is whether indecent dressing is a cause for rape and not the cause of rape. They are two different things. There is no single cause of rape, many things could cause rape; one of which can be indecent dressing. What I am saying is that dressing provocatively may just be that little thing that could trigger a potential rapist.

The title is actually,Is indecent dressing d cause of rape?

I don't disagree with your points though.

thorpido:
I guess we all agree on the need to take precaution and exercise decorum when it comes to dressing. The question is on whether that is the cause for rape which is a no. There are people who do not in any way dress suggestively and yet get raped.

stop arguing blindly.....
indecent dressing can cause a woman to be räped. why is it that the people selling sex as a profession dress indecently?

so when a normal woman dresses indecently, she's seen as a pröstitute by many of the sexually-violent males in the society and the rest is history.

take a transparent bag filled with dollar notes in a motor park and let's see if you won't be robbed. i am sure a naija police officer would rob you first before the real robbers get a chance.

TooNoisy:
What the OP asked is whether indecent dressing is a cause for rape and not the cause of rape. They are two different things. There is no single cause of rape, many things could cause rape; one of which can be indecent dressing. What I am saying is that dressing provocatively may just be that little thing that could trigger a potential rapist.

That's the argument we were supposed to have since but trust sanctimonious peeps.

thorpido:
I guess we all agree on the need to take precaution and exercise decorum when it comes to dressing The question is on whether that is the cause for rape which is a no.There are people who do not in any way dress suggestively and yet get raped.

This is were our focus supposed to be and not just there are people who don't dress suggestively,we all know that but question is : isn't a need to take precaution? Yes or No?

horlaleykan:
gudd morning...I watched a t.v program dis morning ..a debate...on whether indecent dressing is a reason/cause 2 rape ....so wat do u tink? does indecent dressing cause rape?....ow do u even define indecent dressing?....... I biliv ds topic should b made public considering quantum leap in rape cases in recent times....
cc:lalasticlala,ishilove

For reference purposes, this is the first line of the OP.

I will also quote below.

coogar:
stop arguing blindly.....
indecent dressing can cause a woman to be räped. why is it that the people selling sex as a profession dress indecently?
so when a normal woman dresses indecently, she's seen as a pröstitute by many of the sexually-violent males in the society and the rest is history.
take a transparent bag filled with dollar notes in a motor park and let's see if you won't be robbed. i am sure a naija police officer would rob you first before the real robbers get a chance.

coogar:
stop arguing blindly.....
indecent dressing can cause a woman to be räped. why is it that the people selling sex as a profession dress indecently?

so when a normal woman dresses indecently, she's seen as a pröstitute by many of the sexually-violent males in the society and the rest is history.

take a transparent bag filled with dollar notes in a motor park and let's see if you won't be robbed. i am sure a naija police officer would rob you first before the real robbers get a chance.

Coogar,the title is,Is indecent dressing the cause?
That is where my line of argument is.If the title was,is indecent dressing a factor in rape,it will be a different line of argument.

SAMBARRY:
I just finished reading the article and it was insightful. Therefore going by the article its obvious that Saudi Arabia is very similar to Nigeria except for the fact that sharia laws are more entrenched in the northern part of Nigeria.

Women in Nigeria are too ashamed to own up that they have been raped because they don't want to be divorced by their husbands, remain unmarried or be looked down on as pitiable and despicable by the society

even if the woman takes the matter to court if the family of the man can give the judge a fat brown envelope, even if the victim brings all the evidence to show she's been raped, oyo is her case

so there are many factors that come to play. I don't know if you remember a girl who was raped by a lecturer who the parents claimed was helping her process admission into the university he's a lecturer in


if you read that thread here on nl.the first poster was like what did she wear to the lecturers office that made him to rape her. People just like over emphasising on clothes alone.

I believe there's more to incessant rape than just clothes and strict sharia laws

Then we could safely say that dressing is just one of the many cause of rape? No?

edwife:
This is were our focus supposed to be and not just there are people who don't dress suggestively,we all know that but question is : isn't a need to take precaution? Yes or No?

I don't disagree with the issue of preacaution and dressing decently.I was only following the title of the thread which seeks to make indecent dressing as the cause.

thorpido:
I don't disagree with the issue of preacaution and dressing decently.I was only following the title of the thread which seeks to make indecent dressing as the cause.

Okay thanks.

Why are most of the whores I see hanging on streets and dark corners all over abuja at night not raped then? After all some of dem wear next to nothing while doing their jobs while also working in close proximity to area boys, drug dealers and all sorts of male scamps!

How a woman dresses is simply NOT a factor!

coogar:
stop arguing blindly.....
indecent dressing can cause a woman to be räped. why is it that the people selling sex as a profession dress indecently?

so when a normal woman dresses indecently, she's seen as a pröstitute by many of the sexually-violent males in the society and the rest is history.

take a transparent bag filled with dollar notes in a motor park and let's see if you won't be robbed. i am sure a naija police officer would rob you first before the real robbers get a chance.

Kikikikiki

thorpido:
Coogar,the title is,Is indecent dressing the cause?
That is where my line of argument is.If the title was,is indecent dressing a factor in rape,it will be a different line of argument.

factor o, cause o, all na same thing!
indecent dressing can cause rape but there are other causes as well.

funlord:

Why are most of the whores I see hanging on streets and dark corners all over abuja at night not raped then?

because they are already available for sex if the price is agreed. for the normal woman, she's simply not open to sex at any price so violence comes into play.

apples & oranges, mate!

After all some of dem wear next to nothing while doing their jobs while also working in close proximity to area boys, drug dealers and all sorts of male scamps!
How a woman dresses is simply NOT a factor!

how a woman dresses is a big factor.....there are other factors as well. dressing indecently triggers something in the minds of the sexually violent men and the rest is history.....

edwife:
Then we could safely say that dressing is just one of the many cause of rape? No?

yes but a very minor reason not a major reason