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horlarwhalhe:
Let me ask you, because I love asking questions
Who is original native of this land?
All the prophet that do the spiritual work are they white or black?
The real messiah is black or white?
Jesus u are calling today is he black or white?
I will stop here for now

Are u from Oyo state?

gists:
The same Kundalini that has ruined many people's life? Of course there are advantages FOR THOSE THAT ARE SPIRITUALLY EVOLVED/MATURED ENOUGH. Kundalini is not for every one. I am tempted to say some of the mad men on the street are those who tried to wake kundalini but are not matured enough to handle its power. I will not advocate kundalini for anybody not under the supervision of some matured spiritual supervisor. And that is the problem with these kind of things. If you dabble into it without being well prepared for it, you will regret you were born! Google is littered with sites on this topic https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=risk%20of%20waking%20kundalini

Turning water to wine can be done by anybody - as long as you are able to restore the conductivity your already existing connection to the divine organizing intelligence which many people call God; you choose to call it universe - no problem for me as long as its not saytan. So, the problem is that the connection to "source" is corroded and not because we cannot do it. But for many of us, we are not even interested in turning water to wine. At least not in this age of Multina, and countless other non-alcoholic juices . I for example am more interested in simple activities that can increase my awareness/intuitions and be able to communicated better with the spirit of God in me (you may call it higher self if you like). I just want to be able make decisions that will better my life and that of my loved ones without unnecessary struggle because Life is not meant to be a struggle. I don't want to make the lame walk or make the blind see. i will leave that to people who think they can heal the world because I don't think there is anything wrong with the world. The divine organizing intelligence made all these things as they are (no matter how bad it may look to us).

Thank you

why so many mad men because they want to raise their kundalini is because..

1=their chakras both major and minor is either blocked or unbalance.... So may activate the 7 major chakras leaving the minor ones which may cause the kundalini not to rise safely therefore causing them harm.

2=as a religious freak, ur religion doesn't support the ascension of kundalini so why trying to raise it. The enemy is good at what they do. If there is no higher power to be with u then I must say raising it is at ur own risk. For example I strongly maintain my stance that religious god are man made and thoughtforms. The greys aren't happy with us... Since they feed on the energy of the religious freaks why do u think they will allow u to raise the kundalini in order to attain the the higher dimension... That's where they come in play to make it disastrous for people raising it...
I will soon raise my kundalini working on other of minor chakras. And during the awakening my guardian nephilim will be there including enki....
3=some couldn't comprehend simple instructions before playing binaural that awakes the kundalini.. For example I was going through some youtube videos on binaural for raisi;g the kundalini, wanted to save it on my phone but first I had to listen to it. Cos there are many of them..... To my shocking surprise I started feeling the kundalini at my room chakra. My body feeling changed. I had to stop. But then the kundalini didn't stop it's already almost at the sacral chakra and then some of my major chakras aren't open. I was there sweating thinking I can control it. I had send out sos message asap. My guardian nephilim and azazel has to be there to be there to make it stop by disconnecting a strand or something which was later fixed. Now that's my experience. Now imagine one who got no back up of higher power what would have happened..

Some are successfully if they have a master good at handling it, but they are rare these days

While some there will power speaks for them

gists:
Sorry, the last phrase just caught my attention. What do you mean by "balance it" i.e 3rd eye. Can you explain further?

Thanks

u can Google on it cos there are many dimple methods of balancing the chakras

Smh



1 Timothy 6:20-21
20 "O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen."


2 Timothy 2:15-19
15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."




He that hath an ear, let him hear. But if he hath not, let such a man seek good counsel.




Ceteris paribus.



...

Mellin:
why so many mad men because they want to raise their kundalini is because..

1=their chakras both major and minor is either blocked or unbalance.... So may activate the 7 major chakras leaving the minor ones which may cause the kundalini not to rise safely therefore causing them harm.

2=as a religious freak, ur religion doesn't support the ascension of kundalini so why trying to raise it. The enemy is good at what they do. If there is no higher power to be with u then I must say raising it is at ur own risk. For example I strongly maintain my stance that religious god are man made and thoughtforms. The greys aren't happy with us... Since they feed on the energy of the religious freaks why do u think they will allow u to raise the kundalini in order to attain the the higher dimension... That's where they come in play to make it disastrous for people raising it...
I will soon raise my kundalini working on other of minor chakras. And during the awakening my guardian nephilim will be there including enki....
3=some couldn't comprehend simple instructions before playing binaural that awakes the kundalini.. For example I was going through some youtube videos on binaural for raisi;g the kundalini, wanted to save it on my phone but first I had to listen to it. Cos there are many of them..... To my shocking surprise I started feeling the kundalini at my room chakra. My body feeling changed. I had to stop. But then the kundalini didn't stop it's already almost at the sacral chakra and then some of my major chakras aren't open. I was there sweating thinking I can control it. I had send out sos message asap. My guardian nephilim and azazel has to be there to be there to make it stop by disconnecting a strand or something which was later fixed. Now that's my experience. Now imagine one who got no back up of higher power what would have happened..

Some are successfully if they have a master good at handling it, but they are rare these days

While some there will power speaks for them

So, even you that has gone this far still need help in taming kundalini. The bottom line now is that we both agree that awakening kundilani is a very bad (in fact disastrous) idea without the presence of a higher more spiritually evolved master (human or angelic). Most people (myself inclusive) are not at that level yet and may probably not get there.

But hope is not lost yet because I am convinced we can still clean our already existing corroded connection to God. The connection is there already - it is just corroded and there are uncountable proves! Every single human (and possibly animals) have inner spirit which some people call higher self or divine self, divine guide or whatever. This guide whispers to us once in a while. For example, we have all at one time, said something which came to reality; we all have taken a decision that proved to be invaluable in the past; we all have had some sparks of brilliant moments (like giving a speech, or playing football or painting) and you wonder how did I do that? where did that performance came from? Conversely, at some point, we have all refused to follow the whispers of this divine guide/intuition in the past which later came to hurt us. If only we can clean this connection and make it solid/permanent instead of this occasional sparks like an electrical wiring making a partial contact.
To me its like playing a video game - we are the character on the screen and the divine self/guide is the one that is holding the game controller. But for some reason we (the character on the screen) are not responding (all the time) to the guidance of the one holding the controller!! The connection is already there, but it needs to be reliably solid.

That is the knowledge I am looking for. I don't want to wake kundalini because as of now, I don't want to perform a miracle in the magnitude of parting the red sea! And I guess the same apply to most people. Same goes for opening the third eye. When people begin to see scary esoteric beings and possibly even attacks from esoteric creatures (because you are meddling by opening your 3rd eye if you are not evolved enough to handle it) they begin to act crazy. Many patients in the psychiatric hospitals are just simply seeing and interacting beyond our reality/dimension - that looks like the 3rd eye functioning to me.

So if you can help people to clean their connection to universe (let me use your language ) so that they can hear more clearly and regularly from God, I think it will be easy for them to develop at their own pace and can decide if they want to take it further.

Peace.

0079jaBond:
Smh



1 Timothy 6:20-21
20 "O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen."


2 Timothy 2:15-19
15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."




He that hath an ear, let him hear. But if he hath not, let such a man seek good counsel.




Ceteris paribus.



...

I hope you don't mean science in the modern sense of the word, coz Paul had no idea of what science is as we know it. Simply put, science there meant general knowledge but i imagine you mean modern science. It's amazing the things we believe, coz obviously they appeal to us more than the complex and more valid explanations.

gists:
So, even you that has gone this far still need help in taming kundalini. The bottom line now is that we both agree that awakening kundilani is a very bad (in fact disastrous) idea without the presence of a higher more spiritually evolved master (human or angelic). Most people (myself inclusive) are not at that level yet and may probably not get there.

But hope is not lost yet because I am convinced we can still clean our already existing corroded connection to God. The connection is there already - it is just corroded and there are uncountable proves! Every single human (and possibly animals) have inner spirit which some people call higher self or divine self, divine guide or whatever. This guide whispers to us once in a while. For example, we have all at one time, said something which came to reality; we all have taken a decision that proved to be invaluable in the past; we all have had some sparks of brilliant moments (like giving a speech, or playing football or painting) and you wonder how did I do that? where did that performance came from? Conversely, at some point, we have all refused to follow the whispers of this divine guide/intuition in the past which later came to hurt us. If only we can clean this connection and make it solid/permanent instead of this occasional sparks like an electrical wiring making a partial contact.
To me its like playing a video game - we are the character on the screen and the divine self/guide is the one that is holding the game controller. But for some reason we (the character on the screen) are not responding (all the time) to the guidance of the one holding the controller!! The connection is already there, but it needs to be reliably solid.

That is the knowledge I am looking for. I don't want to wake kundalini because as of now, I don't want to perform a miracle in the magnitude of parting the red sea! And I guess the same apply to most people. Same goes for opening the third eye. When people begin to see scary esoteric beings and possibly even attacks from esoteric creatures (because you are meddling by opening your 3rd eye if you are not evolved enough to handle it) they begin to act crazy. Many patients in the psychiatric hospitals are just simply seeing and interacting beyond our reality/dimension - that looks like the 3rd eye functioning to me.

So if you can help people to clean their connection to universe (let me use your language ) so that they can hear more clearly and regularly from God, I think it will be easy for them to develop at their own pace and can decide if they want to take it further.

Peace.

there is nothing like help in taming the kundalini.. One has to follow due process in order not to be a negative side effects... Mistakes we do a times is not asking before doing something that's alien to us... 2 months back or so I took it upon myself to work one a certain magic with the fire element, I never asked for instructions or procedures I just felt since am a God I can handle it....
I invoked it and everything was calm.. After workings I found out my magical workings where perfect but the problem there is that I spent too much time with the fire element which unbalanced the rest of other elements.. The next morning I was having terrible fever all of my body was very hot in the sense it might warm a cold water. That's because the fire element has taken control... It took me 2days to balance it out... Now who will I blame in this case? I will blame me cos I didn't bother to ask...

Ever since then I must ask before doing anything cos they know better than us.. This experience is the same as the kundalini experience and some other experience I had.... Nothing is bad it's only our mistakes that is bad..

Then agai; they talk to us thru music's..... I remember when I was almost frustrated trying to achieve a goal that was before I opened my 3rd eye... One akon music started playing in my thought, actually I started singing it...

*life come and go, so let the history be told... SEE WE OUT HERE WORKING, WORKING DAY BY DAY, AND WHY U STUMBLING AND FALLING, WHY DON'T U PICK URSELF UP NOW, SEE WE OUT HERE WORKING, WORKING TO MAKE A WAY*

now the caps locked letters above keep repeating instead of me to sing along. Now that's a message passed out to me. Nothing is gotten on a platter of gold.. We work, strive to achieve our goals... That was them telling me they to are working to help us and themselves too. They are living life, they are connected to the universe that's why they have different attributes which they chose to work on... Now what have we humans choosen to work on? Serving and empowering an enemy... Well FREEWILL

I WILL keep on spreading the truth cos people don't know what's going on and they don't want to know that they don't know

And lastly u r not and will never be part of the universe fully without connecting to it...



I like how u table things and am always willing to answer u in all ramifications ... Keep it coming, I position full ground



Peace

@gists and mellin. Now, this is the way to proceed. No name calling, there's mutual respect, differences in beliefs are communicated with an open mind - this is what dialogue is. Hope those thugs are learning. Thanks guys.

samsard:
You guys can keep arguing forever, but at the end of the day, what exists exists, and an illusion (or delusion) will remain what it is. No more than that.

Thank God you later came back to christ. Welcome back.

OP, one question. do you know a young man called chiaka from imo?

Mellin:
there is nothing like help in taming the kundalini.. One has to follow due process in order not to be a negative side effects... Mistakes we do a times is not asking before doing something that's alien to us... 2 months back or so I took it upon myself to work one a certain magic with the fire element, I never asked for instructions or procedures I just felt since am a God I can handle it....
I invoked it and everything was calm.. After workings I found out my magical workings where perfect but the problem there is that I spent too much time with the fire element which unbalanced the rest of other elements.. The next morning I was having terrible fever all of my body was very hot in the sense it might warm a cold water. That's because the fire element has taken control... It took me 2days to balance it out... Now who will I blame in this case? I will blame me cos I didn't bother to ask...

Ever since then I must ask before doing anything cos they know better than us.. This experience is the same as the kundalini experience and some other experience I had.... Nothing is bad it's only our mistakes that is bad..

Then agai; they talk to us thru music's..... I remember when I was almost frustrated trying to achieve a goal that was before I opened my 3rd eye... One akon music started playing in my thought, actually I started singing it...

*life come and go, so let the history be told... SEE WE OUT HERE WORKING, WORKING DAY BY DAY, AND WHY U STUMBLING AND FALLING, WHY DON'T U PICK URSELF UP NOW, SEE WE OUT HERE WORKING, WORKING TO MAKE A WAY*

now the caps locked letters above keep repeating instead of me to sing along. Now that's a message passed out to me. Nothing is gotten on a platter of gold.. We work, strive to achieve our goals... That was them telling me they to are working to help us and themselves too. They are living life, they are connected to the universe that's why they have different attributes which they chose to work on... Now what have we humans choosen to work on? Serving and empowering an enemy... Well FREEWILL

I WILL keep on spreading the truth cos people don't know what's going on and they don't want to know that they don't know

And lastly u r not and will never be part of the universe fully without connecting to it...

I like how u table things and am always willing to answer u in all ramifications ... Keep it coming, I position full ground

Peace

Ok. so here is where we stand so far:
1) We are gods - I sluggishly/partially agree after a few lines in the holy books which tend to support that idea (at least by my interpretation). But their is still this silent whisper in my mind that questions how can you claim to be a god when you still commit sins. But I am willing to agree base on those verses and my personal creative past experiences.
2) Saytan is our creator and he mean well for us - I completely disagree even though you said he gave you money and power to help humanity
3) Saytan only want us to reconnect to him because the enemy (i.e God of xtians and muslims) have cut us off from him - Again I completely disagree because there are countless evidence to show that we have ALWAYS been connected to God and saytan only want to re-run our connecting wires to him (little wonder xtians believe he came to steal/destroy and muslims believe he is our avowed enemy)
4) Kundalini awakening and 3rd eye opening - Agree to disagree: Yes it works; yes you get unimaginable power doing it and yes anybody can do it. BUT it can also have DEVASTATING side effect and has already ruined some peoples lives. These are universal/cosmic/esoteric energy forces. And since energy (scalar quantity) has no direction of its own, it goes in whatever direction you give it. Which means you have to be spiritually strong enough to control/direct the energy. Otherwise it can come all over you from all directions. Imagine a 2 year old child playing with the fire fighter's pressure hose. I am not trying to scare people. I am only alerting people of what they could be getting into.

Let us shift to something a bit different. I know you said as a satanist, you are not against same sex marriage. I completely respect your stand. But can you tell me your stand on sex between member of the same family - like blood brothers and sisters

Also, do you believe there is heaven and hell? If not why?

Great0:
Thank God you later came back to christ. Welcome back.

I don't know what you're talking about.

gists:
Ok. so here is where we stand so far:
1) We are gods - I sluggishly/partially agree after a few lines in the holy books which tend to support that idea (at least by my interpretation). But their is still this silent whisper in my mind that questions how can you claim to be a god when you still commit sins. But I am willing to agree base on those verses and my personal creative past experiences.
2) Saytan is our creator and he mean well for us - I completely disagree even though you said he gave you money and power to help humanity
3) Saytan only want us to reconnect to him because the enemy (i.e God of xtians and muslims) have cut us off from him - Again I completely disagree because there are countless evidence to show that we have ALWAYS been connected to God and saytan only want to re-run our connecting wires to him (little wonder xtians believe he came to steal/destroy and muslims believe he is our avowed enemy)
4) Kundalini awakening and 3rd eye opening - Agree to disagree: Yes it works; yes you get unimaginable power doing it and yes anybody can do it. BUT it can also have DEVASTATING side effect and has already ruined some peoples lives. These are universal/cosmic/esoteric energy forces. And since energy (scalar quantity) has no direction of its own, it goes in whatever direction you give it. Which means you have to be spiritually strong enough to control/direct the energy. Otherwise it can come all over you from all directions. Imagine a 2 year old child playing with the fire fighter's pressure hose. I am not trying to scare people. I am only alerting people of what they could be getting into.

Let us shift to something a bit different. I know you said as a satanist, you are not against same sex marriage. I completely respect your stand. But can you tell me your stand on sex between member of the same family - like blood brothers and sisters

Also, do you believe there is heaven and hell? If not why?

since u disagree in almost all I said there is no point explaining further cos still yet you won't agree... And u quoting and judging from the Bible which I already known to be tool of enslavement...

U might wanna go read thru those pages again which is too long for u to read...
From ur posts u aren't seeking to know truth but trying to tell me what u believe in is the ultimate truth and mine evil... Sorry I won't reply u any further...

Enki doesn't give money, he is the bringer of knowledge I don't know where u culled that from..

And lastly show a proof even if it's from the bible that He wanted to re-run our connecting wires to him... I don't argue blindly or based on hear say, I tells what I have seen or known or experience .... U my friend now has to tell us all how he wanted to re-run our connecting wires to him.... Then I might consider replying onwards

Peace

Mellin:
since u disagree in almost all I said there is no point explaining further cos still yet you won't agree... And u quoting and judging from the Bible which I already known to be tool of enslavement...

U might wanna go read thru those pages again which is too long for u to read...
From ur posts u aren't seeking to know truth but trying to tell me what u believe in is the ultimate truth and mine evil... Sorry I won't reply u any further...

Enki doesn't give money, he is the bringer of knowledge I don't know where u culled that from..

And lastly show a proof even if it's from the bible that He wanted to re-run our connecting wires to him... I don't argue blindly or based on hear say, I tells what I have seen or known or experience .... U my friend now has to tell us all how he wanted to re-run our connecting wires to him.... Then I might consider replying onwards

Peace

Now you fall my hand big time!! So you will only continue a discussion if the other party agrees with your stand?
Are seriously expecting me (and people) to change their life-long beliefs over some posts from a satanic user on an anonymous forum like nairaland? Similarly, I didn't expect you change your though/believe simply because I made posted random quotes from the bible. For God's sake I don't even know the verse! I just know the statements are their in the Bible and Quran. So it will be fo0lish of me to expect you to change just like that. You are as guilty as those other guys trying to sell you their religion lol. And by the way, I am not a xtian. I have never been a xtian! I have a philosophy - Their is a good chance that if you pick a book and read it, you will have something to agree with. So even though I completely agree with some of the bible verses, it does not mean I will convert to a xtian. And if later in future I find it necessary for change- I probably will. But, for now I will just use the knowledge of those verses to better my life when the need arises. Same applies to what you are preaching.

I didn't realise this is a soul-winning exercise for you. This is not a soul winning excersice for me. For me, this is expanding knowledge. It is about laying the cards on the table. Its about asking "what door" is this? Where does it lead to? How do you open this door? What is involved in passing through this door? etc. After getting all these information, I can take the decision whether or not to pass through any or all the doors at my own convinent time. For example, I may decide to use the mudras and not use the pendulum or I may find need to use both sometime later if I am comfortable with it. I do not find it amusing and in fact I find it upsetting that you expect me to agree with you in order to continue a discussion. And you are blamming the religious ones for the samething.

Mellin:
Enki doesn't give money, he is the bringer of knowledge I don't know where u culled that from..

I don't know who or what enki is, but this is what you said about saytan

Mellin:
Hold till am done with the rest of the story and you will know how I acquire some black diamonds I have in my custody through a sigil giving to me by Satan himself.

Mellin:
And lastly show a proof even if it's from the bible that He wanted to re-run our connecting wires to him...

Well, you were the one that said saytan only want reconnect us with him:

Mellin:
first he is not trying to win any soul cos it belongs to him. We have been cut of by the enemy and all he wishes is for us to connect ourselves back by seeking..

gists:
Now you fall my hand big time!! So you will only continue a discussion if the other party agrees with your stand?
Are seriously expecting me (and people) to change their life-long beliefs over some posts from a satanic user on an anonymous forum like nairaland? Similarly, I didn't expect you change your though/believe simply because I made posted random quotes from the bible. For God's sake I don't even know the verse! I just know the statements are their in the Bible and Quran. So it will be fo0lish of me to expect you to change just like that. You are as guilty as those other guys trying to sell you their religion lol. And by the way, I am not a xtian. I have never been a xtian! I have a philosophy - Their is a good chance that if you pick a book and read it, you will have something to agree with. So even though I completely agree with some of the bible verses, it does not mean I will convert to a xtian. And if later in future I find it necessary for change- I probably will. But, for now I will just use the knowledge of those verses to better my life when the need arises. Same applies to what you are preaching.

I didn't realise this is a soul-winning exercise for you. This is not a soul winning excersice for me. For me, this is expanding knowledge. It is about laying the cards on the table. Its about asking "what door" is this? Where does it lead to? How do you open this door? What is involved in passing through this door? etc. After getting all these information, I can take the decision whether or not to pass through any or all the doors at my own convinent time. For example, I may decide to use the mudras and not use the pendulum or I may find need to use both sometime later if I am comfortable with it. I do not find it amusing and in fact I find it upsetting that you expect me to agree with you in order to continue a discussion. And you are blamming the religious ones for the samething.


I don't know who or what enki is, but this is what you said about saytan




Well, you were the one that said saytan only want reconnect us with him:

Thats why I said finish the rest of the pages from where u stopped then let me know so we continue..

This ain't a soul winning ish.. U believe and know self or u keep been a slave..

Lastly I said he want us to reconnect ourselves back, did I say to him? We r connecting back to the universe which we where cut off from... Stop misinterpreting my posts...

Gists, wat u are doing is glaring for all to see. U are purposely misinterpreting d OP. And at d same time laying ur cards on d table. Argue on a level ground here. All I see u doing is employing d victim's card. U started off well. Den in d middle, u try to refute everything d OP says and den play ur own stance (belief). Wit a victim card dat u are no Christian.

Come on, stick to ur previous momentum. Open ur heart if u want to learn. Take his points, give urs, no refuting, no victim card.

Cos dats how some kids almost spoiled d fun here.

Cos everybody has own opinion on life. If u come across a new thing, take it and research on it. Dat way u dnt believe or refute it.

U are doing fine so far. I wud let u know anytime u are deviating. Cos we love how peaceful d thread is now.

BUHARIWILLWIN:
Gists, wat u are doing is glaring for all to see. U are purposely misinterpreting d OP. And at d same time laying ur cards on d table.

This is his opening statement:

Mellin:
Firstly, am not here to wake up those who want to stay asleep but for those who aren't aware they are sleeping..

That sentence above resonated with me and because of that I read a couple of pages (I think upto page 4). But I am a lazy man. I can't read through 95 pages of posts on satanism. I am sorry I am not that hungry for that information (life is not meant to be hard).

So, in view of that, what on earth do I stand to gain in purposely misinterpreting Mellin? As I said before, I stumbled on this thread on a search for some info and I keyed into his opening statement. How will misinterpreting him give me what I am looking for?

He said he is a satanist; then he proceeded to saying we have been cut off and satan want us to reconnect ourselves back. Tell me how is anyone supposed to know he was referring to reconnecting back to universe? I just made to most logical conclusion that he meant reconnecting back to satan. That is not misrepresntation - I think its more of a case of incomplete information which led me to fill in the gap.

I believe I have an open mind. otherwise, why will I be talking to anonymous people who does not share my faith and even calls us slaves? But, that is not a problem because I know he is just reacting to some other faceless guys who have attacked him senselessly. I still have to keep my mind open nontheless although THAT DOES NOT MEAN I SHOULD BE A DOGMA. Nobody forced me when I read about kundalini and third eye and spirit guides etc. I have learnt a little about MUDRA, AURA and SIGIL on this thread. But I am not willing to swallow everything from him just as I am not willing to swallow everything from any clergy. So for him to say their is nothing to discuss because I don't agree with most of what he said leave much to be desired.

BUHARIWILLWIN:
All I see u doing is employing d victim's card. U started off well. Den in d middle, u try to refute everything d OP says and den play ur own stance (belief). Wit a victim card dat u are no Christian.

How does my confession of not being a christian translate to playing a victim card? And how did I refute what the OP said? I only asked him how he was sure satan was not tricking him to win his soul. He has provided answer to that and I did not dwell on it. And I also said Kundalini and 3rd can be dangerous (not that it doesn't work) if not done by people who can handle it. That's not refuting to me, it is giving people a head-up about what they may encounter.

BUHARIWILLWIN:
Come on, stick to ur previous momentum. Open ur heart if u want to learn. Take his points, give urs, no refuting, no victim card.

Cos dats how some kids almost spoiled d fun here.

Cos everybody has own opinion on life. If u come across a new thing, take it and research on it. Dat way u dnt believe or refute it.

He also said I was judging from the bible. That is just plain wrong! The fact that I mentioned some passages in the bible does not mean I am judging from it. There are other bible verses that don't resonate with me and as far as I am concerned don't make sense. That bible passage that I mentioned makes sense and resonated with me just as his openeing statement. For me it does not really matter what the source is. That is what they call looking at the message and not the messanger. And that is why I asked if he can help me with my info which is boosting my already existing "electrical connection" to the divine organising intelligence (which he refers to as universe but many of us call it God). Although he believes we have been disconnected by the enemy and we need to reconnect, I KNOW we are connected and all we need is clean the dirts that is causing the partial contacts. Bottomline is we both agree we need super connectivity to the source (whatever that means to you). So we have both stated our stands and for me it doesn't make sense for one to cross to the other side of argument before a discussion can continue.

Time for this thread to enter the trashbin it ought to be. SMH

ophy:
Time for this thread to enter the trashbin it ought to be. SMH

put it in trashbin if u got the balls or forever remain a fool and a dunce

You my friend, are the biggest fool.

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Funny as it may sound, d word God is foreign. I just learnt dis now frm gists.

I kept asking myself, y GOD. It can be MOD or COD or a very long word. Y GOD.
Then wikipedia helped me. Since its foreign, I see no need for using d word.

Atleast I call it the universe.
No wonder ders a place in d bible dat calls it I AM.

So therefore. I AM refers to ME. (English stuff). Dat is d only secret I got frm d bible dats a bit useful.

If I AM is d word used, and it refers to me, therefore I AM UNIVERSE.
Universe begets universal.
Universal encompasses qualities as omniscience, omnipresent and all d omnis.

I see no prove whatsover frm any religious book of someone who is omni everything. Except for myths. I don't go well with myths for obvious reasons.

Sorry I am thinking aloud. Has anyone ever thought of this?


Why the word God.

samsard:
I don't know what you're talking about.

Ok as time progress, you will know

BUHARIWILLWIN:
Funny as it may sound, d word God is foreign. I just learnt dis now frm gists.

I kept asking myself, y GOD. It can be MOD or COD or a very long word. Y GOD.
Then wikipedia helped me. Since its foreign, I see no need for using d word.

Atleast I call it the universe.
No wonder ders a place in d bible dat calls it I AM.

So therefore. I AM refers to ME. (English stuff). Dat is d only secret I got frm d bible dats a bit useful.

If I AM is d word used, and it refers to me, therefore I AM UNIVERSE.
Universe begets universal.
Universal encompasses qualities as omniscience, omnipresent and all d omnis.

I see no prove whatsover frm any religious book of someone who is omni everything. Except for myths. I don't go well with myths for obvious reasons.

Sorry I am thinking aloud. Has anyone ever thought of this?


Why the word God.

The word GOD is not a name. It is a title - just like the PRESIDENT.
We have the PRESIDENT of Nigeria, The President of Ghana, Eygpt, USA etc.
So also we have the god of Iron, god of fire, god of love ; the god of destruction etc.
So the word is just a title and not a name. That is the mistake many people make. But it is just convinent to some of us to just use the word GOD.
I like to us a description I got from someone: The divine organising intelligence - i.e the one that makes the sun rise from the east and set in the west. Their is an intelligence behind that. The one that created virtually everything in pairs or duality - man/woman; night/day; hot/cold; pain/pleasure etc. Their is an intelligence that is FARR superior to the idea of us (humans) being god that is behind all these. We can't call ourself GOD (i.e capital G ) because we can't create any of these phenomenon or celestial bodies like sun, stars galaxies etc. Yes we are god-like with unimaginable powers - but still very much limited compared to the divine intelligence.

Some people call it Jehova, some call it Allah, others call him Chineke while other chooses to see it at the universe. etc.
As long as you don't call it satan (pardon me if this offend anyone) for me the name doesn't really matter that much. just reralise its there and you try your best to maintain your connection to it as clean as possible.

Thanks

According to SHAKTI PARWHA KAUR KHALSA in his book Kundalini Yoga, the flow of external power:

G - That which generates
O - That which organizes
D - That which delivers or destroys

gists:
The word GOD is not a name. It is a title - just like the PRESIDENT.
We have the PRESIDENT of Nigeria, The President of Ghana, Eygpt, USA etc.
So also we have the god of Iron, god of fire, god of love ; the god of destruction etc.
So the word is just a title and not a name. That is the mistake many people make. But it is just convinent to some of us to just use the word GOD.
I like to us a description I got from someone: The divine organising intelligence - i.e the one that makes the sun rise from the east and set in the west. Their is an intelligence behind that. The one that created virtually everything in pairs or duality - man/woman; night/day; hot/cold; pain/pleasure etc. Their is an intelligence that is FARR superior to the idea of us (humans) being god that is behind all these. We can't call ourself GOD (i.e capital G ) because we can't create any of these phenomenon or celestial bodies like sun, stars galaxies etc. Yes we are god-like with unimaginable powers - but still very much limited compared to the divine intelligence.

Some people call it Jehova, some call it Allah, others call him Chineke while other chooses to see it at the universe. etc.
As long as you don't call it satan (pardon me if this offend anyone) for me the name doesn't really matter that much. just reralise its there and you try your best to maintain your connection to it as clean as possible.

Thanks

hmmm. I know all these u say. Though I av other opinions.

Why d title GOD. A preseident of a nation presides over all affairs of d nation. I av no problem with that. D crux of d matter lies in d etymology. Nt d description. U ended up giving me qualities. Bt nt d basic thing I asked of.

Is d word an english word? If not, y was it adopted. Do d english nt av any other word for a supposed being with dese qualities?

I don't know if u get where am coming from. Why d letter G O and D. Think deeply dis time. Thank you

germanic. invoked one
http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/God.htm

For those who seek insights, kindly check the links below and read carefully:

What to do about doubts http://www.whiteestate.org/books/sc/sc12.html

8 rules of Bible interpretation http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/8-rules.html


Happy reading. Shalom


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gists:
The word GOD is not a name. It is a title - just like the PRESIDENT.
We have the PRESIDENT of Nigeria, The President of Ghana, Eygpt, USA etc.
So also we have the god of Iron, god of fire, god of love ; the god of destruction etc.
So the word is just a title and not a name. That is the mistake many people make. But it is just convinent to some of us to just use the word GOD.
I like to us a description I got from someone: The divine organising intelligence - i.e the one that makes the sun rise from the east and set in the west. Their is an intelligence behind that. The one that created virtually everything in pairs or duality - man/woman; night/day; hot/cold; pain/pleasure etc. Their is an intelligence that is FARR superior to the idea of us (humans) being god that is behind all these. We can't call ourself GOD (i.e capital G ) because we can't create any of these phenomenon or celestial bodies like sun, stars galaxies etc. Yes we are god-like with unimaginable powers - but still very much limited compared to the divine intelligence.

Some people call it Jehova, some call it Allah, others call him Chineke while other chooses to see it at the universe. etc.
As long as you don't call it satan (pardon me if this offend anyone) for me the name doesn't really matter that much. just reralise its there and you try your best to maintain your connection to it as clean as possible.

Thanks

the divine organising intelligence :the one who makes the sun rise from the east and sets in the West....


Check who was referred to the son of the morning or morning star and then u have found the intelligence who makes the sun rise from the east and sets West...

In genesis =day and night I created...
Now u might wanna ask how am sure he was the one referred to in the Bible... Am very sure but I have no proof for u since the same old testament couldn't include the names of the gods in there... Replacing it with Lord ur god...

And if u do observe well in the old testament two different character is been played there... One is a loving God the other is a beast....

One can't be a loving God at the same time a beast

My take


Hope u have started going thru the rest of the pages

how can one whose field is in genetics control the sun's movement he didn't create. food for thought.

BUHARIWILLWIN:
hmmm. I know all these u say. Though I av other opinions.

Why d title GOD. A preseident of a nation presides over all affairs of d nation. I av no problem with that. D crux of d matter lies in d etymology. Nt d description. U ended up giving me qualities. Bt nt d basic thing I asked of.

Is d word an english word? If not, y was it adopted. Do d english nt av any other word for a supposed being with dese qualities?

I don't know if u get where am coming from. Why d letter G O and D. Think deeply dis time. Thank you

Well, the truth is, I don't know and I don't care. That is not what I am looking for. And I don't want to get distracted from my quest.
I also think for you, it doesn't matter what word is used. U would still have asked the question anyway if the word CAT was used. You would still have said I AM is is used and not the word CAT. U would still have said "I kept asking myself, y CAT. It can be TCA or ATC or a very long word. Y CAT."

Mellin:
the divine organising intelligence :the one who makes the sun rise from the east and sets in the West....
Check who was referred to the son of the morning or morning star and then u have found the intelligence who makes the sun rise from the east and sets West...
In genesis =day and night I created...
Now u might wanna ask how am sure he was the one referred to in the Bible... Am very sure but I have no proof for u since the same old testament couldn't include the names of the gods in there... Replacing it with Lord ur god...
And if u do observe well in the old testament two different character is been played there... One is a loving God the other is a beast....
One can't be a loving God at the same time a beast
My take
Hope u have started going thru the rest of the pages

Well then, I guess their nothing to discuss lol.
I thought I said earlier that there are quite a number of passages in the bible that don't resonate with me and don't make sense (at least to the best of my human knowledge)
No, I have not read the rest of the posts. I am a lazy man
Its not my fault. As I said in my earlier posts, in the past whenever I struggle to do somethings, most times I am better off not doing it. Most of the things I have come to be grateful for in my sweet life have come to me fairly easily. Nothing like reading over 90 pages of post. I am sorry I don't think I will read everything. I hope you understand.
My higher self/guidan angel/intuition must have been frustrated in the past (like a video game player whose character on the screen is not responding to guidance all the time) - for me that has to stop

ophy:
how can one whose field is in genetics control the sun's movement he didn't create. food for thought.

close ur smelling mouth if u have no important thing to say...

Who says the sun movement is been control by anyone? So if one's field is genetics he has no right to try other fields to see what comes out of it?he created night and day I guess that's genetics and not science? He is master of all magics, hope magic to u means genetics too? Ur posts disgust me really and I feel like puking anytime I read ur posts here.. U know nothing about science so shut the Bleep up and practice ur religious belief while the brain ones make cool things to better their lives and that if humanity and nature

Be a pepper seller and remain there the rest of ur miserable life not trying other means to improve ur financial status...

Ophy toto stop making fool of urself.... Get a life