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@kingbilo she hasn't compromised nothing because she claimed she hasn't slept with the man. If after all her stories she said she slept with the man and eventually got the job and her picture is there that is when you can be ranting about breaking professional ethics.

No reasonable employer will use that against her because even employers know job hunters experience the good, the bad and the ugly in trying to get a job

no employer will reject her based on that it's only let's say people like you that cannot control their penis and know this woman is likely to put you into trouble if you make advances at her that won't employ her. As a matter of fact it will even ward off male employers with your school of thought. Real men who are employers will be proud of her and it will even give her an edge based on sexual morality part

majekdom2:
I don't wanna assume you are have no attention to detail. Where in my post did you read I talking solely about her negative experience I said, I find it amusing where " people " is she people? Please re- read, and fyi, it has never been about being critical or about her but majority of Nigerians .... this is a link to one of my comment before now https://www.nairaland.com/2604810/girl-kicked-out/3#38107628

the last line in your previous post is highly patronizing. Like seriously what the heck?

she had the thought of about giving in?

Just for sharing her experience?

you don't have any point. Abeg bounce

Crieff:
What are the instances when a supposed pre-employment interview crosses the line between test and harassment?

define harassment?

queenfav:
My joy knew no bounds when my landlord's wife called a lawyer she once worked with to get me an interview appointment with his firm. Despite my tiredness after the POP ceremony, I managed to wake up early to get there by 8.am. My hopes were high with the possibility of getting a job barely 24hrs after POP. That's how I waited till 10.am o, before the man showed up. He ushered me into his office, and the interview began.

First off, I pride myself as a lady who dresses decently both for corporate and for casual occasions. So, this wasn't a case of immoral dressing on my part. That's how the managing partner interviewing me started looking at me to the point of me wondering if something was amiss. The next thing he said was, "you look really smart, and pretty. I like you already counsel."I just mumbled "thank you Sir". As a lawyer, he asked some pretty tough scenario based questions, which I scaled through by giving my legal opinion. He then asked for my credentials, which I proceeded to give him. That was when the man proceeded to leave his seat and placed his hand on my shoulder. I was so pertrified! I shook free and he got the message that he should keep his hands to his damn self.

The interview then took a personal turn. He started asking about my relationship status. I quickly responded that I was engaged. His reply was "me too am married, can't you see my ring", I like you a lot...you are a very pretty lady. I am sure a lot of judges are fighting over you in this state. Your credentials are great, you seem smart, just my kind of woman..what if I want to date you?". I was so shocked!! That was when I told him straight off that I don't date married guys, let alone one who may become my boss. Also that I am in a very committed relationship and don't condole cheating. He was a bit stunned, but took it in good faith. He asked a few other questions before ending the interview, saying his other partners would interview me on monday, that's when I will know if I am getting the job.

This experience left me very shocked and sad, that an interviewer would blatantly ask me out. Whatever happened to work ethics and morality? I just hope I don't get experiences like this again. Its very insulting and demeaning to say the least. Please, Nigerian men this is so wrong. A woman should be interviewed and hired for her brains and academic intellect, not because she is pretty and you just want a new plaything. I was so close to insulting him, I just had to keep calm and address the issue in a very firm way. May God help all female jobseekers o. If there's anything I am not ready to do is to sleep with any man, because he is in a position to give me a job. Not after 6 years invested into my legal career. Not now, not ever!

Same thing a female lawyer friend of mine went through last month.... she went for an interview and did awesome only for the fvcking consultant b@stard to start asking her to agree to date him and she could be rest assured the job is hers.... what effrontery? I wish she could just give me details to locate the fvcktard...... I'm just soon fvckn hurt by how a hard working girl like herself has been out of job for a month just cos her previous company refused to pay their staff including herself for five months and counting but the bosses who earn in millions never get owed...... I must also add though that u think outside the box.... he just might be wanting to know if you can easily be manipulated which could cause harm to his firm.... don't jump to conclusions my dear.... It all could just be a test....

ajuwarhodes:
U don't sound like a lawyer who can handle a rape case with these words...bucket lawyer

Put simply, mediocrity.

GeneralShepherd:
I hate Nigeria

are you back now? Where do you love?

F50:
OK ma,
I have 2 different court cases ongoing ...just thought I should mention it to you. And 1 has some realy good poteNtial

Thank you. Can you imagine what a fresh graduate lawyer is putting up. Imagine this was an interview session, that's a fail already. Zero optimism.

queenfav:
@F50,it doesn't work that way in Nigeria.Our laws barely provide for remedies against sexual harrassment.Besides,when you have been involved in a court case in Nigeria,you would understand why litigation is not the best way to go about things due to frequent adjournments,judiciary strikes and the rest.Again,you are entitled to damages when you have suffered as a result of the act.The only claim I have here is purely emotional.Trust me,Nigerian courts don't have time for that crap.That's better served in other legal systems abroad.Even the Ese walter and COZA pastor scandal,had she sued I am sure she would have lost despite her claim of being manipulated by a religious leader.

how long have you practised before coming up with this?how many cases have you handled before coming with this conclusion. If this is an interview, it's a fail already. Zero optimism. even as it may not seem to work in Nigeria. You as a lawyer has sworn to protect the laws. This should not be coming from you. You need to garner more skills.

who will rescue the girl child from these sex hungry men? pls mr President, come to our aid

majekdom2:
define harassment?

I'm not in the mood this sunny and brought morning. You can use your dictionary.

queenfav:
I doubt that was the case.I am a grown lady who can tell when a man is seriously asking me out.If it was a test,then its very distasteful!

I sense too much of ego. Again, you don't have a right over the tests a potential employer wishes to conduct on you. It's only in your power to come up with arguments in an uncomfortable situation.

majekdom2:
Put simply, mediocrity.

Mr itk go and get busy. Do something productive with your time and stop hating. After now na una go dey bash Linda ikeji for buying an expensive mansion. Meanwhile when she was working you were busy exerting all your energy on hating

ejo e ti poju. You talk too much for a man.lo wakan shey. Alainironu, elejowewe okunrin

Crieff:
Bulls.

An interviewer that rose up from his seat, went all the way round to where the interviewee was seating and placed his hand on her shoulder is moral test, right? You are ridiculous.

did he go beyond shoulders? The OP didn't say. Was there any forceful touches?? She will so loose if she decides to bring up a case. Why did you think the man withdrew and then got back to his seat??

Queenfav stop dignifying majekdom with an answer. Can't you see he's clearly a hater. He's just looking for something to pick on. He has left the real issue and has now degraded himself with attacking personality. He obviously lacks substance. He's just looking for something to puncture in your statement

he's only pretending to be intelligent because he wants to use you to shine

SAMBARRY:
the last line in your previous post is highly patronizing. Like seriously what the heck?

she had the thought of about giving in?

Just for sharing her experience?

you don't have any point. Abeg bounce

oh now it's about my last line.... again, Zero comprehension. Did you see the word " perhaps ". Are you her? Do you know her thoughts? I owe no apologies that my view on the above subject matter differs from yours.

majekdom2:
oh now it's about my last line.... again, Zero comprehension. Did you see the word " perhaps ". Are you her? Do you know her thoughts? owe no apologies that my view on the above subject matter differs from yours.

abeg abeg abeg. It's obvious you have nothing tangible to say because there's nothing wrong in sharing her experience except you're part of the men that can't keep it in their pants. Their pheneese must do the work of their brain

Crieff:
I'm not in the mood this sunny and brought morning. You can use your dictionary.

It would say much about your brilliance if you understand the words you use before using them on here.

SAMBARRY:
Mr itk go and get busy. Do something productive with your time and stop hating. After now na una go dey bash Linda ikeji for buying an expensive mansion. Meanwhile when she was working you were busy exerting all your energy on hating

ejo e ti poju. You talk too much for a man.lo wakan shey. Alainironu, elejowewe okunrin

how does whatever you have put up affect this discussion. My point remains, OP should get more professional. What has Linda got to do with this ? My time usage is not what we discussing here and that's none of your business at this time.

majekdom2:
It would say much about your brilliance if you understand the words you use before using them on here.

What word/s did I use wrongly?

SAMBARRY:
Queenfav stop dignifying majekdom with an answer. Can't you see he's clearly a hater. He's just looking for something to pick on. He has left the real issue and has now degraded himself with attacking personality. He obviously lacks substance. He's just looking for something to puncture in your statement

he's only pretending to be intelligent because he wants to use you to shine

sorry, she hasn't answered or responded to any of my post. Where is the attack on personality? This post is so funny..... use to shine? Do I even know the OP. Funny you

SAMBARRY:
abeg abeg abeg. It's obvious you have nothing tangible to say because there's nothing wrong in sharing her experience except you're part of the men that can't keep it in their pants. Their pheneese must do the work of their brain

I owe no apologies we have got different views, exposures and experience on the subject matter. I am not sure you a professional/ career individual. If you are one I can't tell the quality or standard but I am not sure it's world class. It's so obvious the OP is not being professional with her posts. This has been my main point. This may affect her as she has got her pic on here. Stop being a mediocre by insulting me and assuming what t isn't. Good day

majekdom2:
I sense too much of ego. Again, you don't have a right over the tests a potential employer wishes to conduct on you. It's only in your power to come up with arguments in an uncomfortable situation.

You are ridiculous. Don't bother replying again. You should read and comprehend before replying to issues taken out of context. Your comments so far on this thread's are devoid of, even an iota of intelligence. Enjoy your day.

Crieff:
You are ridiculous. Don't bother replying again. You should read and comprehend before replying to issues taken out of context. Your comments so far on this thread's are devoid of, even an iota of intelligence. Enjoy your day.

Thank you and you too

majekdom2:
I owe no apologies we have got different views, exposures and experience on the subject matter. I am not sure you a professional/ career individual. If you are one I can't tell the quality or standard but I am not sure it's world class. It's so obvious the OP is not being professional with her posts. This has been my main point. This may affect her as she has got her pic on here. Stop being a mediocre by insulting me and assuming what t isn't. Good day

the picture there is an advantage for her from the moral perspective. Tell me the man that will say sorry you're qualified but we can't offer you this job because you turned down a man's sexual advances?


Are you thinking at all? Smh

majekdom2:
sorry, she hasn't answered or responded to any of my post. Where is the attack on personality? This post is so funny..... use to shine? Do I even know the OP. Funny you

yes you want to use her to shine by asking stopeed and irrelevant questions

My dear queenfav u will definitely prosper

Crieff:
What word/s did I use wrongly?

I chose to ignore this post until the latter. I used my dictionary as you advised in the former.
Sexual harassment is bullying or coercion of a sexual nature, or the unwelcome or inappropriate promise of rewards in exchange for sexual favors.[1] In most modern legal contexts, sexual harassment is illegal. As defined by the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), "It is unlawful to harass a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person's sex." Harassment can include "sexual harassment" or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature. The legal definition of sexual harassment varies by jurisdiction. Sexual harassment is subject to a directive in the European Union.[2]

Where laws surrounding sexual harassment exist, they generally do not prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or minor isolated incidents.[citation needed] In the workplace, harassment may be considered illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted, or when the victim decides to quit the job). The legal and social understanding of[i] sexual harassment, however, varies by culture.
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In the context of US employment, the harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer, and harassers or victims can be of any sex or gender.[3]

It includes a range of actions from mild transgressions to sexual abuse or sexual assault.[4] Sexual harassment is a form of illegal employment discrimination in many countries, and is a form of abuse (sexual and psychological) and bullying. For many businesses and other organizations, preventing sexual harassment, and defending employees from sexual harassment charges, have become key goals of legal decision-making.

I hope you understand the bolded

majekdom2:
how does whatever you have put up affect this discussion. My point remains, OP should get more professional. What has Linda got to do with this ? My time usage is not what we discussing here and that's none of your business at this time.

yes I have to refer to Linda ikeji because it is men like you that will go around criticizing and bashing unnecessarily while others are doing something worthwhile. When the dividends of their hard work manifests, body go dey pepper you

abi how many successful and fulfilled men have time to hate or be jealous of another woman

amo iru yin

SAMBARRY:
the picture there is an advantage for her from the moral perspective. Tell me the man that will say sorry you're qualified but we can't offer you this job because you turned down a man's sexual advances?


Are you thinking at all? Smh

@ bolded, this is simply a case of a mad man calling a sane man Mad. One wouldn't blame the mad man tho, he is sane in his own thought and context.
Now to my point, The OP's post on here can be used against her i.e she talking negative about the law system in Nigeria. If I were to be competing with her to get a job sometime, I could use it as an evidence.... it's so simple. Of course no man would come out to say one was turned down because of some refusal to sexual advances. It so easy to come up with other professional reasons . Besides, am not asking the OP to give in or commending the interviewer for perhaps not "being professional" which we can't tell if it was some moral test. My point remains, OP should garner more professional skills..... My last post to you as I can tell your judgemental skill level.

SAMBARRY:
yes I have to refer to Linda ikeji because it is men like you that will go around criticizing and bashing unnecessarily while others are doing something worthwhile. When the dividends of their hard work manifests, body go dey pepper you

abi how many successful and fulfilled men have time to hate or be jealous of another woman

amo iru yin

where is the bashing at one's success. You call a piece of advice bashing?? Who is successful here.... The OP or you?? where is the jealousy? Mehn, your case is pathetic.

majekdom2:
are you back now? Where do you love?

Not yet oo my oga.

majekdom2:
where is the bashing at one's success. You call a piece of advice bashing?? Who is successful here.... The OP or you?? where is the jealousy? Mehn, your case is pathetic.

yes you're hating and you're jealous of op because she's a graduate. She finished from law school quite at an early age and she has the potential of making it as a young female lawyer. You can't stand the fact that she's a young successful girl.admit it