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Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Crieff(m): 11:58am On Oct 17, 2015
majekdom2:
I chose to ignore this post until the latter. I used my dictionary as you advised in the former.
Sexual harassment is bullying or coercion of a sexual nature, or the unwelcome or inappropriate promise of rewards in exchange for sexual favors.[1] In most modern legal contexts, sexual harassment is illegal. As defined by the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), "It is unlawful to harass a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person's sex." Harassment can include "sexual harassment" or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature. The legal definition of sexual harassment varies by jurisdiction. Sexual harassment is subject to a directive in the European Union.[2]

Where laws surrounding sexual harassment exist, they generally do not prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or minor isolated incidents.[citation needed] In the workplace, harassment may be considered illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted, or when the victim decides to quit the job). The legal and social understanding of[i] sexual harassment, however, varies by culture.
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In the context of US employment, the harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer, and harassers or victims can be of any sex or gender.[3]

It includes a range of actions from mild transgressions to sexual abuse or sexual assault.[4] Sexual harassment is a form of illegal employment discrimination in many countries, and is a form of abuse (sexual and psychological) and bullying. For many businesses and other organizations, preventing sexual harassment, and defending employees from sexual harassment charges, have become key goals of legal decision-making.

I hope you understand the bolded
You're obviously getting it twisted. The initial exchange between Donpuzo and I was that the action of the interviewer is improper. The legal profession is not a touchy touchy profession. There exists a code of conduct guiding interactions between practitioners as well as the interactions between lawyers and their clients. Donpuzo reasoned like you're doing that interviews are not limited to academic or social knowledge but can also be moral, which is arguable but he couldn't define when such crosses the line from assessment to harassment. That was his reasoning. While the action of the principal isn't sexual harassment, it's totally dishonourable; except you run a brothel type of practice, where clients assaults your female colleagues while briefing them.

Like I stated earlier, if you had read the thread of our conversation from the beginning, this exchange will be totally unnecessary.

I reiterate that the action of the principal partner is totally uncalled for and very unprofessional. Issues such as these undermine the growth of the profession nd make a sizeable number of practice in Nigeria unable to compete with their international competitors. The OP reacted just right. That he was testing her moral quality is a depravity of reasoning. The legal practice is not a supermarket or a strip club and ministers in the temple of justice should conduct themselves honourably.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by SAMBARRY: 12:00pm On Oct 17, 2015
So exposing what the man did is not professional or stating the obvious facts that the law professiin in Nigeria needs a turn around?

You're a joke. Go and sleep and please quit hating or getting jealous tongue
majekdom2:
@ bolded, this is simply a case of a mad man calling a sane man Mad. One wouldn't blame the mad man tho, he is sane in his own thought and context.
Now to my point, The OP's post on here can be used against her i.e she talking negative about the law system in Nigeria. If I were to be competing with her to get a job sometime, I could use it as an evidence.... it's so simple. Of course no man would come out to say one was turned down because of some refusal to sexual advances. It so easy to come up with other professional reasons . Besides, am not asking the OP to give in or commending the interviewer for perhaps not "being professional" which we can't tell if it was some moral test. My point remains, OP should garner more professional skills..... My last post to you as I can tell your judgemental skill level.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by urchbarbie(f): 12:11pm On Oct 17, 2015
SAMBARRY:
So exposing what the man did is not professional or stating the obvious facts that the law professiin in Nigeria needs a turn around?

You're a joke. Go and sleep and please quit hating or getting jealous tongue
some people dont know corruption happens everywhr even in d lowliest of profession. when I wanted to get a placement for nysc in a lawfirm, same happened.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Nobody: 12:24pm On Oct 17, 2015
SAMBARRY:
So exposing what the man did [/b]is not professional or stating[b] the obvious facts that the law professiin in Nigeria needs a turn around?

You're a joke. Go and sleep and please quit hating or getting jealous tongue
what exposure? When the OP refused mentioning the man's name and firm?? Of what use is the post? You already use the word obvious, is there any point creating a thread for something that is obvious, something everyone knows need an overhaul without saying one's thought on how to fight the situation? Isn't it redundant as she did not say what she would do when she gets there to fight the situation? Who is a joke now??am yet to understand the " jealous " word you keep using. You need to know me hun. It's so simple to understand. One's relationship / family / personal life experiences exclusive to one at sometime should not be a topic to be debated on a forum as this .... it's not of public interest and shouldn't be of public interest. My opinion tho ...but advisable . Deal with it!
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by queenfav(op): 12:32pm On Oct 17, 2015
SAMBARRY:
So exposing what the man did is not professional or stating the obvious facts that the law professiin in Nigeria needs a turn around?

You're a joke. Go and sleep and please quit hating or getting jealous tongue
Please stop replying @majekdom.He is just a sick,sorry excuse for a man,let alone a human being!I can hardly even fathom what his point really is?sambarry Leave the fo.ol alone abeg.That's how you deal with degenerates!
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Nobody: 12:34pm On Oct 17, 2015
Crieff:
You're obviously getting it twisted. The initial exchange between Donpuzo and I was that the action of the interviewer is improper. The legal profession is not a touchy touchy profession. There exists a code of conduct guiding interactions between practitioners as well as the interactions between lawyers and their clients. Donpuzo reasoned like you're doing that interviews are not limited to academic or social knowledge but can also be moral, which is arguable but he couldn't define when such crosses the line from assessment to harassment. That was his reasoning. While the action of the principal isn't sexual harassment, it's totally dishonourable; except you run a brothel type of practice, where clients assaults your female colleagues while briefing them.

Like I stated earlier, if you had read the thread of our conversation from the beginning, this exchange will be totally unnecessary.

I reiterate that the action of the principal partner is totally uncalled for and very unprofessional. Issues such as these undermine the growth of the profession nd make a sizeable number of practice in Nigeria unable to compete with their international competitors. The OP reacted just right. That he was testing her moral quality is a depravity of reasoning. The legal practice is not a supermarket or a strip club and ministers in the temple of justice should conduct themselves honourably.
Mr, I read your post and understood it clearly before mentioning you. That was why I asked you to define the word harassment which you refused, now you agree the man did not harass the lady. So no point making up a case where there is none.
Well, there has been notime in my post I supported the man's action as I can't tell his intentions but different jurisdiction if a case may come up.
My point is, it is obvious many systems need an overhaul in the country. This is not new, she is not the first and won't be the last presently. No lesson to be learnt here, the thread is simply redundant. It is not of public interest until there is a change causing action. The man in question is somewhere chilling or trying his antics on his next prey grin
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by queenfav(op): 12:36pm On Oct 17, 2015
urchbarbie:
some people dont know corruption happens everywhr even in d lowliest of profession. when I wanted to get a placement for nysc in a lawfirm, same happened.
My dear,its even sad that some have the nerve to suggest that it was a moral test.Only ladies know what we face on a daily basis in the professional world.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Nobody: 12:39pm On Oct 17, 2015
SAMBARRY:
yes you're hating and you're jealous of op because she's a graduate. She finished from law school quite at an early age and she has the potential of making it as a young female lawyer. You can't stand the fact that she's a young successful girl.admit it
grin grin grin wow.... ridiculous! If only you knew me. Keep making yourself feel good grin. You seen the truth.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by urchbarbie(f): 12:42pm On Oct 17, 2015
queenfav:
My dear,its even sad that some have the nerve to suggest that it was a moral test.Only ladies know what we face on a daily basis in the professional world.
true. sometimes it scares me senseless. its well gf. the best would come to us.
and for those who do that morality test ish, I tell them that its highway to hell fire cause its a deliberate act to make someone sin and what does d bible say abt that? No one shld play God. if one is qualified for a job, give it to d person. its well nne
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Nobody: 12:47pm On Oct 17, 2015
queenfav:
Please stop replying @majekdom.He is just a sick,sorry excuse for a man,let alone a human being!I can hardly even fathom what his point really is?sambarry Leave the fo.ol alone abeg.That's how you deal with degenerates!
insults on me will only make you feel good at the other end grin . I understand clearly, truth hurts. If you haven't understood my point..m. I repeat again.... your relationship / family. / everyday event is not of public interest, thus it should be kept private. In a situation where you feel it affects the public, you should bring forth your argument with solutions. There is no solution by you to whatever thread u created. That man is somewhere chilling, there may perhaps be a next prey for him. Secondly, reading through your post, you talked down legal sytem. I am sure at sometime you must have sworn to protect the law as the case may be. Talking it down on a public forum as this means you doing otherwise. That's not professional.... insults do not change my opinion, do they?? Grow up young lawyer angry
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by SAMBARRY: 12:51pm On Oct 17, 2015
majekdom2:
grin grin grin wow.... ridiculous! If only you knew me. Keep making yourself feel good grin. You seen the truth.
abeg let me hear word joor wink
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by marriedvirgin: 7:34am On Oct 18, 2015
that's the reason why men feel threatened by successful women who make it to the top without compromise.You would hear them talk evil about such women because of hate and jealousy and because they can't stand her charisma.Take a good example at Linda Ikeji which man can stand that beautiful woman?
I join my faith with your faith my sister and i pray for you that whatever your heart's desires are may the great God who has done marvelous things in the lives of his children prosper you and put a smile on your face.









queenfav:
My joy knew no bounds when my landlord's wife called a lawyer she once worked with to get me an interview appointment with his firm. Despite my tiredness after the POP ceremony, I managed to wake up early to get there by 8.am. My hopes were high with the possibility of getting a job barely 24hrs after POP. That's how I waited till 10.am o, before the man showed up. He ushered me into his office, and the interview began.

First off, I pride myself as a lady who dresses decently both for corporate and for casual occasions. So, this wasn't a case of immoral dressing on my part. That's how the managing partner interviewing me started looking at me to the point of me wondering if something was amiss. The next thing he said was, "you look really smart, and pretty. I like you already counsel."I just mumbled "thank you Sir". As a lawyer, he asked some pretty tough scenario based questions, which I scaled through by giving my legal opinion. He then asked for my credentials, which I proceeded to give him. That was when the man proceeded to leave his seat and placed his hand on my shoulder. I was so pertrified! I shook free and he got the message that he should keep his hands to his damn self.

The interview then took a personal turn. He started asking about my relationship status. I quickly responded that I was engaged. His reply was "me too am married, can't you see my ring", I like you a lot...you are a very pretty lady. I am sure a lot of judges are fighting over you in this state. Your credentials are great, you seem smart, just my kind of woman..what if I want to date you?". I was so shocked!! That was when I told him straight off that I don't date married guys, let alone one who may become my boss. Also that I am in a very committed relationship and don't condole cheating. He was a bit stunned, but took it in good faith. He asked a few other questions before ending the interview, saying his other partners would interview me on monday, that's when I will know if I am getting the job.

This experience left me very shocked and sad, that an interviewer would blatantly ask me out. Whatever happened to work ethics and morality? I just hope I don't get experiences like this again. Its very insulting and demeaning to say the least. Please, Nigerian men this is so wrong. A woman should be interviewed and hired for her brains and academic intellect, not because she is pretty and you just want a new plaything. I was so close to insulting him, I just had to keep calm and address the issue in a very firm way. May God help all female jobseekers o. If there's anything I am not ready to do is to sleep with any man, because he is in a position to give me a job. Not after 6 years invested into my legal career. Not now, not ever!
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by marriedvirgin: 7:37am On Oct 18, 2015
the way you are talking it seems like you have once done what the op is talking about to someone.I no accuse you ooo
mennnn


majekdom2:
what exposure? When the OP refused mentioning the man's name and firm?? Of what use is the post? You already use the word obvious, is there any point creating a thread for something that is obvious, something everyone knows need an overhaul without saying one's thought on how to fight the situation? Isn't it redundant as she did not say what she would do when she gets there to fight the situation? Who is a joke now??am yet to understand the " jealous " word you keep using. You need to know me hun. It's so simple to understand. One's relationship / family / personal life experiences exclusive to one at sometime should not be a topic to be debated on a forum as this .... it's not of public interest and shouldn't be of public interest. My opinion tho ...but advisable . Deal with it!
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by onyeuka: 5:32am On Oct 19, 2015
story for gods
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Nobody: 10:53am On Oct 19, 2015
bullshit... if u dnt knw hw to read... or better still some pple read but cnt understand so i understand u now... u probably didnt understand a word i typed thats y ur contradicting urself cos wateva ur satn has notin to do wit wat i said
Crieff:
You should stop playing ostrich. She's employed to offer professional options and solutions to clients problem and not nanny them out baby seat them... If the client wants more... Go somewhere else.
You guys should learn to stand up to bulls**t in whatever form. Quit kissing a**. And if you decide to, be sure it is on your term and not that you're being compelled to.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by MSEdLAW(m): 9:56am On Oct 20, 2015
hi send your CV... mikebassey@gmail.com
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Nobody: 5:17pm On Oct 21, 2015
majekdom2:
Mr, I read your post and understood it clearly before mentioning you. That was why I asked you to define the word harassment which you refused, now you agree the man did not harass the lady. So no point making up a case where there is none.
Well, there has been notime in my post I supported the man's action as I can't tell his intentions but different jurisdiction if a case may come up.
My point is, it is obvious many systems need an overhaul in the country. This is not new, she is not the first and won't be the last presently. No lesson to be learnt here, the thread is simply redundant. It is not of public interest until there is a change causing action. The man in question is somewhere chilling or trying his antics on his next prey grin
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. He was busy being too sentimental to understand things.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by aamstih: 12:08pm On Nov 06, 2015
Many people would read this comment as evil, I even did. Yes it is evil no buts... grin



Atmmachine:
Just answer this question.
Is your fiance the only one you have give your pusssy to ??
If your answer is "NO"
Why can't you give it to this interviewer and get a good job ?? Others have been pounding you for free.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Youngpo413: 11:20am On Jan 08, 2016
queenfav:
That would make the workplace very uncomfortable for me.Plus,once a boss has asked a lady out,he starts criticizing her work,treating her with disrespect just because she turned him down.How can I be at my best professionally in that kind of tense atmosphere?
You are unique and I appreciate that,most naija ladies gladly will sleep with the boss even with his superior just to get employed,pls keep it up,God will surely see you through.
Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by Abee79(m): 11:27am On Nov 28, 2016
Atmmachine:
Just answer this question.
Is your fiance the only one you have give your pusssy to ??
If your answer is "NO"
Why can't you give it to this interviewer and get a good job ?? Others have been pounding you for free.

Re: My Sordid Experience As A Female Lawyer Job Hunting. by newspapers: 9:01am On Mar 31, 2020
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