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MegMich:
If only the conduction of such exams were fair, no one would be complaining.
Do you know what it feels like preparing for an exam you know will probably have no effect on your chances. Your so-called colleagues stick to your face. They tell you where, how and to whom they've submitted letters and money.

It is indeed discouraging

It's really discouraging. I think something needs to be done about it. The recruitment system shouldn't be biased.

Oukay, didn't know you're in medical line. if i should follow your line of thought, i would say It's our educational system that needs revamping. But once we have a graduate medic, the recruitment for a mandatory intenship shouldn't be done in the manner obtainable at the moment. Imagine if you had to travel to different states of your choice to write exams in order to qualify for NYSC programme if intenship wasn't mandatory, i wouldn't have argued in support of a posting system.

Obinoscopy:
I have no beefs against the medics. I'm a pharmacist. I did internship myself.

However it's my love for my profession that made me insist that internship slots be made competitive. The beauty of a competitive atmosphere is that it brings out the best in people.

I'm totally in support of exams for intending internees.This will make each medical school ensure that they churn out qualified medical graduates that will not disgrace them when seeking internship offers or any other offer for that matter.

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Really?
Is this your own contribution to the thread? If it is, I want to let you know that it is off the point of the topic, sir!

justirich:
quite ironic. it's pretty obvious who is having a poverty-stricken head. A failed paramedic who first argued that paramedics and doctors are the cause of the internship crisis, complained about doctors salaries compared to other countries, later then dwelt on talk of consultancies and then finally house officers pay. who is the confused fellow here? you are now trying to belatedly cover up your personal beef. pls come back to your senses asap.
I will post your replies here below again so you can assess yourself.

Agreed that explaining the nitty gritty isn't one of my stronger point as many would have seen. It is time consuming and can be downright annoying.

Sometimes you have the occasional iddiot who makes himself available so that certain issues can be emphasized. Which is why I have to say this individual calling himself justrich has served some purpose. No one is entirely useless.

He is either talented at playing the fooool or he is just down right stuppid. Either way he has served a good purpose on this thread.That said, if he is truly a doctor, I won't even let him touch my dog.

The bane of good governance in Nigeria has been corruption, misapplication and outright theft of public funds There are areas where a sound policy when sustainably applied can make the difference. The health sector is one of them.

limited spaces for internship is a mere symptom of a much bigger malaise. No disease is ever cured by treating symptoms.

Pennywise:
The never ending acrimonious war between doctors and the paramedics in govt hospitals have many unintended consequences and this is one of them.

I feel disappointed that when doctors make a case for a pay rise they compare their salaries with those in England and the US. Exactly on what basis might I ask? Why don't they compare take homes with other third world countries like Pakistan, India, Philippines or Ghana that they earn more than.
Also govt should take steps to address the absurdity of consultant matron, consultant pharmacists consultant optometrists etc.

Pennywise:
my position remains that there can be no solution to the relative dearth of intern places unless doctors' remuneration are allowed to yield to market forces. In plain and simple language, doctors are overpaid relative to what our hospitals can afford. And house officers must be prevented from going on strike. A one year internship is not an opportunity to amass wealth.

Pennywise:
The bane of good governance in Nigeria has been corruption, misapplication and outright theft of public funds There are areas where a sound policy when sustainably applied can make the difference. The health sector is one of them.

limited spaces for internship is a mere symptom of a much bigger malaise. No disease is ever cured by treating symptoms.

After reading the quotes of your previous derailing replies that were of no use to this thread, you finally made some sense in the last two paragraphs above.
thank goodness for that. A paramedic is an important member of the medical team. This is not a bashing thread. So no one should create an unnecessary air of hostility. doctors are not the cause of your present difficulties in life. Own up to your responsibilities to your family and let other professionals be. It's even an unlikely union of all health professionals that came up with the above recommendations. And that's good for our health sector.

Obinoscopy:
I have no beefs against the medics. I'm a pharmacist. I did internship myself.

However it's my love for my profession that made me insist that internship slots be made competitive. The beauty of a competitive atmosphere is that it brings out the best in people.

I'm totally in support of exams for intending internees.This will make each medical school ensure that they churn out qualified medical graduates that will not disgrace them when seeking internship offers or any other offer for that matter.

There should be no exam except, like in the present deformed system, for the purposes of selecting few from amongst many.

The sine qua non for internship is your degree. Nothing else.

Every medical graduate - doctor, pharmacist or scientist is qualifed in accordance to the Laws of Nigeria, as long as an accredited institution graduated you. Being qualified does not mean you are the best. It means you have met the minimum standards needed to practise safely, or to cope favorably in the next stage. It is not the internship exam that will prevent any potential "disgrace". It is like passing your 1st yr exams, and having to write anoda exams in order to proceed to 2nd year, so as not to disgrace yourself in 2nd yr. It is a duplication of process. It is unnecessary and exposes medical graduatea to unnecessary risks and expenses.

Your earlier post insunuating that medical graduates are lazily waiting on govts to give them jobs is misplaced, prejudiced, and shows your lack of understanding of the issue. You confuse internship with employment.

How much percentage of doctors do you think are employed by government? Very little.

Doctors hustle probably more than other graduates. Go to that private hospital in the most remote part of your state, a doctor is hustling there. That doctor you know of in the city is working at 3 hospitals to survive. 8am -2pm and rushes off for 2pm -8pm at anoda, in a messed up country without roads or a metro system. At night he sleeps in the 3rd hospital, without NEPA of course, and then he makes money just enough to earn a living, take care of families and get a house. Many doctors are unemployed, only working on locum basis where they make 2k to 4k per day, few days a week, few weeks a month. And tens of thousand doctors are produced annually. Unless you do not know, you'd think the world of doctors is so different from other professionals in Nigeria.

And you are so insensitive to suggest that they are lazy and all waiting on the stupid governments that do not know that they or anyone exist?

You do not know a lot about the lives of healthworkers, despite being a pharmacist. It's like me saying pharmacists are lazy and wait on govt to spoonfeed them with jobs, when I know how horrible life as a pharmacist has become in Nigeria.

This country is no country. Apart from only having a place to call ours (not that the Country truly belongs to the people), we do not have the benefits of a country. That is the summary, as always when cases like this are discussed. It is a failed state, as much as one would want to be optimistic, there seems to be no hope.

Another recommendation is stopping private universities without teaching hospitals from training doctors. They just keep churning out doctors without any space for housejob.
I even wonder how these schools got accreditation from NUC.
Poor regulation from NUC and MDCN.

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