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Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by papaejima1: 9:48am On Oct 20, 2015
AyeeIdris:
Ok. Smart Alec. First of all, The VANGUARD newspaper didn't carry his story. It was online. You and i know how online stories are fabricated everyday...case and point...Sahara reporters. Many times on this forum, that same Vanguard ngr has been debunked for spreading falsehood. And news of this nature, EVERY paper would carry it, even the 'yoruba' newspapers. You may say they who skewer the information to favour whoever pays their paycheck but they will carry it.

2. I didn't say Kanu was a criminal. Your Vanguard paper, which you are alluding to, implied that he is. Or else why will they carry a report that he has been granted bail. You have to be charged on some kind of criminal offence to be granted bail. So if you say he is not facing criminal charges, then they will be no need to be granted bail.....and then that would mean Vanguard ngr is wrong which goes back to point one

3. I could put a bunch of links that shows DSS denying having him, but you would say the sources are not authentic and i could probably agree with you there. I take everything i read online with a 'bucket' of salt. These are some links

http://www.itomienews.com/latest-news/we-dont-have-him-dss-denies-arresting-radio-biafra-director-nnamdi-kanu/

http://happenings.com.ng/we-dont-have-him-in-our-custody-dss-denies-arresting-radio-biafras-directorthe-department-of-state-services-dss-has-said-it-is-not-aware-of-the-purported-arrest-of-one-nnamdi-kanu-the-director/

(I am not vouching for these links, as no major newspaper has carried it, but this is out there anyways)

But it begs the question. why would they lie? No disrespect but Nnamdi Kanu is not that big a fish in the Nigerian scene. I believe higher profile Niger Delta strong men have been arrested and the Government didnt hide it. Why him? Why no pictures?

Like I said, I am not trying to convince you that this doesn't feel right. Let your instincts guide you. Till date, i tell everyone that Chibok girls is the biggest Naija scam of 2014. I follow my guts. If this turns out that i am wrong and he was truly arrested and all, i will admit that i was wrong. It is not a big deal, seriously.

Stop with the oluwole certificate thing. It is disrespectful
First off, I am not against you. However, I would like you to know that you are wrong.
Nnamdi Kanu was arrested. It was designed to be an under-the-radar operation with a blanket media blackout. It failed woefully because Nnamdi has a system in place and a sequence of communication protocols that the high command put in place for such eventualities as this. Once it was breached, the cat was let out of the bag.

Again, you err in assuming Nnamdi is not the big fish he is made out to be. This is where you display your total ignorance or lack of deep insight on the whole biafra issue. The Niger delta boys who you term "strongmen" were nothing but touts propped up by politicians and given guns to wreak mayhem. They were only interested in making money and grabbing whatever they could from Nigeria.
Nnamdi has a different approach.
First he began to harness the power of social media, he began to consult, he began to read up and study the histories of freedom fighters. He understood his target audience and how to reach out to them.
He struck pay dirt when the political scenario in the country was polarized and highly charged, and decided to exploit it to drive the wedge in. In came the radio transmitters and relay stations. People gravitated towards him. He began to point out and analyse the faults and actions of the government towards the citizens and mostly towards the Biafrans. Buhari helped him too via his indecisiveness and blunders in appointments and even coming out to deny a statement by radio biafra, and finally failing to jam his radio signals.

Nnamdi is a big fish except you dont know it. A man who could command a following in 88 countries of the world with people donating upwards of N1 million naira at a go to the cause, single handedly purchasing relay stations and funding shortwave transmissions globally is no small person.

Nnamdi simply re-ignited the passion for freedom in the minds of the people. Even if Biafra doesnt come in the next 5 years, the issue will continue to simmer and smoulder until one day it will come to a head.

There is a proverb that the bird dancing in the road has a drummer beating a drum for it in the bush.
Remember too that Nigeria is fighting an insurgency in the north and sincerely cannot afford to have another one in the south from where the crude oil comes. It will tear the nation apart.

What they did was a probing attack. To see what will happen. Now listen to radio biafra and you will hear people talking about going after senator and reps members and their families, not even confronting the govt head-on, that alone can make this nation live on tentherhooks with every govt official considered a legitimate target by biafran activists.

Believe me, you wouldn't want such scenario evolving.

Somedays ago buratai was shouting that the integrity of Nigeria as a sovereign nation was being threatened, why do you think he said that? because of Boko Haram alone? Capital NO!!
He has seen that there are hidden hands manipulating events beyond FG's control and Nnamdi could just be one of such projects. So arresting him quietly and secretly arraigning him would be in order, but when the pressure mounts release him and tell the whole world you are obeying the UN and human rights laws and a responsible govt.

Just wait, the next few days will be fantastic.
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by AyeeIdris(op): 10:12am On Oct 20, 2015
papaejima1:
First off, I am not against you. However, I would like you to know that you are wrong.
Nnamdi Kanu was arrested. It was designed to be an under-the-radar operation with a blanket media blackout. It failed woefully because Nnamdi has a system in place and a sequence of communication protocols that the high command put in place for such eventualities as this. Once it was breached, the cat was let out of the bag.

Again, you err in assuming Nnamdi is not the big fish he is made out to be. This is where you display your total ignorance or lack of deep insight on the whole biafra issue. The Niger delta boys who you term "strongmen" were nothing but touts propped up by politicians and given guns to wreak mayhem. They were only interested in making money and grabbing whatever they could from Nigeria.
Nnamdi has a different approach.
First he began to harness the power of social media, he began to consult, he began to read up and study the histories of freedom fighters. He understood his target audience and how to reach out to them.
He struck pay dirt when the political scenario in the country was polarized and highly charged, and decided to exploit it to drive the wedge in. In came the radio transmitters and relay stations. People gravitated towards him. He began to point out and analyse the faults and actions of the government towards the citizens and mostly towards the Biafrans. Buhari helped him too via his indecisiveness and blunders in appointments and even coming out to deny a statement by radio biafra, and finally failing to jam his radio signals.

Nnamdi is a big fish except you dont know it. A man who could command a following in 88 countries of the world with people donating upwards of N1 million naira at a go to the cause, single handedly purchasing relay stations and funding shortwave transmissions globally is no small person.

Nnamdi simply re-ignited the passion for freedom in the minds of the people. Even if Biafra doesnt come in the next 5 years, the issue will continue to simmer and smoulder until one day it will come to a head.
You may be right. He may be a big fish. Outside Nairaland, i barely heard of the guy but the whole arrest thing has made him relevant. Maybe i am misjudging the guy's relevance. I don't know. The question i want to ask you, is his message the right type? Is his message the way a bloodless revolution can be achieved. I never listened to his broadcast but I have read on Nairaland that he has called on Igbo youths to arm themselves in preparation. That he has called on them to attack police stations and that he insults, not only other tribes but igbos that do not agree with him. I don't know if all of these are true or misunderstood . You can clarify that. My problem is that he doesn't have the qualities that makes a sympathetic freedom fighter. One, he is wealthy (you may say..and so?....but it kinda matters), he is not in Nigeria and he is not known for championing charity cases or using his money to develop the eastern region (if he has, please correct me)

You cannot fault Nigeria for jamming the signals. It is one thing to push for independence. It is another thing to continuously denounce a country and call for a break up in the harshest of terms. No sovereign nation in the world will be ok with that. Radio stations should never be allowed to spread hate. Read on the Rwandan Genocide. It is illegal. it is wrong. It is not the way to go.

Maybe I am not getting the guy's appeal but the limited people (igbos) i have spoken to, are not for him. They are all for Biafra. (Heck, if Biafra is what Igbos truly truly want and it can be achieved without blood, I am for Biafra too), but I wish there was a Martin Luther King/ Mandela figure leading the movement........
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by mrjangaweed: 10:50am On Oct 20, 2015
BALLOSKI:
grin grin see double standard abeg.
lie nsi ebea
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by papaejima1: 11:03am On Oct 20, 2015
AyeeIdris:
You may be right. He may be a big fish. Outside Nairaland, i barely heard of the guy but the whole arrest thing has made him relevant. Maybe i am misjudging the guy's relevance. I don't know. The question i want to ask you, is his message the right type? Is his message the way a bloodless revolution can be achieved. I never listened to his broadcast but I have read on Nairaland that he has called on Igbo youths to arm themselves in preparation. That he has called on them to attack police stations and that he insults, not only other tribes but igbos that do not agree with him. I don't know if all of these are true or misunderstood . You can clarify that. My problem is that he doesn't have the qualities that makes a sympathetic freedom fighter. One, he is wealthy (you may say..and so?....but it kinda matters), he is not in Nigeria and he is not known for championing charity cases or using his money to develop the eastern region (if he has, please correct me)

You cannot fault Nigeria for jamming the signals. It is one thing to push for independence. It is another thing to continuously denounce a country and call for a break up in the harshest of terms. No sovereign nation in the world will be ok with that. Radio stations should never be allowed to spread hate. Read on the Rwandan Genocide. It is illegal. it is wrong. It is not the way to go.

Maybe I am not getting the guy's appeal but the limited people (igbos) i have spoken to, are not for him. They are all for Biafra. (Heck, if Biafra is what Igbos truly truly want and it can be achieved without blood, I am for Biafra too), but I wish there was a Martin Luther King/ Mandela figure leading the movement........
Yeah, that you never heard of him does not diminish his stature or import of his struggle one bit. I would advise you to take out sometime to listen to radio biafra if not for anything but to know if what they say is true.

Yes, Nnamdi at the beginning was rude and insulting and that put many of us off, but we addressed that issue. We told him it was not the way to go, and he immediately re-adjusted.

That he has called on youths to arm themselves in preparation is the proper thing to do when the police, army and navy can simply shoot you dead for simply gathering without even a demonstration or rioting.
I give you an instance, my friend came home shaken earlier this year after a confrontation with a hausa mopol who asked for his drivers license and he told the officer he was given only a paper by FRSC as his license was being processed, the mopol then demanded for money before letting him go. My friend got angry and told him it was against the law for him to reject the FRSC issued paper, and, the mopol "Provoked".
He cocked his gun and told the man, "You are an Igboman right? I will shoot you dead right now and nothing will happen!" Finally, my friend had to part with N1,500 with abeg sir just to escape with his life. That is the manner of injustice biafrans are subjected to daily across this nation.
I also happened to witness the killing by a police officer of a commercial bus driver at wimpey junction earlier this year over picking of passengers and not paying him.

These are what Nnamdi is highlighting!
nnamdi is not rich. Forget that. The money he makes and uses are donated by people all over the world. You are also mistaken if you think he uses the money for frivolous means. Ask about the welfare of the families and dependents of the IPOB members killed by the Nigerian Navy on 30th August 2015 and what Kanu and IPOB did for them.
Try and find out how much it costs to run a satellite transmission for 1 hr, shortwave for 1 hr, satellite TV for 1 hr etc then you will know how the money is being spent.

Radio stations should not be allowed to spread hate I agree so also shouldn't individuals. Talk to Junaid Mohammed and his cohorts. Talk to the late sarduana of sokoto. Talk to the current president of Nigeria (An attack against Boko haram is an attack against the north! - that is a peace building statement right?).

Martin Luther/Mandela never fought for freedom from their countries, they fought for equality! These are two different things.
Biafra existed before Lugard married us forcefully with Odua and Arewa. We are simply asking for us to return to our base configuration peacefully and you say no.

Nnamdi had to call for people to resist wanton killing and destruction after the Ezu river massacre. Read up on it. They were Biafrans and Massob members. What has and did the govt do about it? So you want us to sit back while they come to our homes take our people, shoot them and throw them into a river to be fish food so people like you will say we are peace loving people going about our struggle peacefully.

Now let me ask you this on a final note. Did you hear about the Ezu river massacre? Did you hear about the August 30th shooting of IPOB members on a peaceful evangelism by the navy?
As a lawyer, what have you done about it? Gani Fawehinmi was a lawyer who fought the govt to a standstill. Femi Falana was a lawyer who often stands up to the govt. Why haven't you done anything to challenge the extra-judicial murders being carried out by the security agencies against biafrans?

Answer that and you will know why Nnamdi is doing what he is doing and how he is doing it.
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by Lilswaghanxum(m): 11:28am On Oct 20, 2015
papaejima1:
Yeah, that you never heard of him does not diminish his stature or import of his struggle one bit. I would advise you to take out sometime to listen to radio biafra if not for anything but to know if what they say is true.

Yes, Nnamdi at the beginning was rude and insulting and that put many of us off, but we addressed that issue. We told him it was not the way to go, and he immediately re-adjusted.

That he has called on youths to arm themselves in preparation is the proper thing to do when the police, army and navy can simply shoot you dead for simply gathering without even a demonstration or rioting.
I give you an instance, my friend came home shaken earlier this year after a confrontation with a hausa mopol who asked for his drivers license and he told the officer he was given only a paper by FRSC as his license was being processed, the mopol then demanded for money before letting him go. My friend got angry and told him it was against the law for him to reject the FRSC issued paper, and, the mopol "Provoked".
He cocked his gun and told the man, "You are an Igboman right? I will shoot you dead right now and nothing will happen!" Finally, my friend had to part with N1,500 with abeg sir just to escape with his life. That is the manner of injustice biafrans are subjected to daily across this nation.
I also happened to witness the killing by a police officer of a commercial bus driver at wimpey junction earlier this year over picking of passengers and not paying him.

These are what Nnamdi is highlighting!
nnamdi is not rich. Forget that. The money he makes and uses are donated by people all over the world. You are also mistaken if you think he uses the money for frivolous means. Ask about the welfare of the families and dependents of the IPOB members killed by the Nigerian Navy on 30th August 2015 and what Kanu and IPOB did for them.
Try and find out how much it costs to run a satellite transmission for 1 hr, shortwave for 1 hr, satellite TV for 1 hr etc then you will know how the money is being spent.

Radio stations should not be allowed to spread hate I agree so also shouldn't individuals. Talk to Junaid Mohammed and his cohorts. Talk to the late sarduana of sokoto. Talk to the current president of Nigeria (An attack against Boko haram is an attack against the north! - that is a peace building statement right?).

Martin Luther/Mandela never fought for freedom from their countries, they fought for equality! These are two different things.
Biafra existed before Lugard married us forcefully with Odua and Arewa. We are simply asking for us to return to our base configuration peacefully and you say no.

Nnamdi had to call for people to resist wanton killing and destruction after the Ezu river massacre. Read up on it. They were Biafrans and Massob members. What has and did the govt do about it? So you want us to sit back while they come to our homes take our people, shoot them and throw them into a river to be fish food so people like you will say we are peace loving people going about our struggle peacefully.

Now let me ask you this on a final note. Did you hear about the Ezu river massacre? Did you hear about the August 30th shooting of IPOB members on a peaceful evangelism by the navy?
As a lawyer, what have you done about it? Gani Fawehinmi was a lawyer who fought the govt to a standstill. Femi Falana was a lawyer who often stands up to the govt. Why haven't you done anything to challenge the extra-judicial murders being carried out by the security agencies against biafrans?

Answer that and you will know why Nnamdi is doing what he is doing and how he is doing it.
Allow. me to say this, U ARE WORDED
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by ArodeTsolaye: 11:41am On Oct 20, 2015
mrjangaweed:
just Sharap your buccal cavity there

A. you said that no news agency reported it where did you get the crimes he was charged (treason felony, etc.)

B. didn't you see the news of his arrest and release with reliable source (vanguard) or do you think that nairaland will move that kind of thread to front page without a reliable source

C. did DSS publicly debunked the news knowing the full implications and reputation at stake or do you think that DSS won't debunk the news if it's fake as the trend reached worldwide or are you saying that our DSS doesn't have dstv in their various offices to watch bbc or are they analogue too grin


finally you called yourself a lawyer but you're not even near the smartness of an average lawyer you're just a typical dunce and your argument lacks merits.

let me tell you something the DSS miscalculated on arresting kanu because they taught he's just an ordinary guy without backup not knowing it's a snare trap to escalate the publicity of kanu and his struggle.

if you think that kanu will just be rounded off by some unprofessional dss then you must be delusional grin

have you ever wondered where kanu is getting the funds he's using to sponsor and maintain this struggle do you know how much it cost to set up and maintain radio and TV station that broadcasts world wide grin ? have you ever asked yourself the source of the fund or you think the guy operates alone grin

i laugh at your gullibility

better stick to celebrity section and others don't display your gullibility here in politics section because your arguments are just too dull for somebody that called herself a lawyer or you be back door lawyer i mean by oluwole levels naa (Esq) grin
Chineke nna! All these charge and bail lawyers no go wound person with laughter.

Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by ArodeTsolaye: 11:47am On Oct 20, 2015
onenaira3:
Nwoke shut up. The girl is telling the truth. IPOB is playing or planning something. Nnamdi that once ordered the youths of ABA to attack the army and police didn't say one word when he was arrested. In fact sec, not one single IPOB member came out to speak or protest in regards to his arrest. Let's also add, it was YOU GUYS that first reported his arrest. It is still YOU GUYS updating about the arrest. It is still YOU GUYS who granted foreign media reports in regards to the arrest. Not ONE single Nigerria official verified the arrest and before you mouth off the DSS didn't deny it, if Shekau comes out now and claimed Nigerian army arrested him do you think the army would come out and deny it especially he is someone they been trying to get for awhile likewise nnamdi.
One thing I noticed about Biafra is whenever any biafran agigator gets arrested, they get paraded by that useless nation's officers
When BZM was arrested, they were paraded and shown hand cuffed
When Umuzurike was arrested, he was paraded and shown hand cuffed
When Massob members were arrested, they were paraded and shown hand cuffed
Even when ABA ipob youths fought the police several months ago, the ones caught were paraded and shown hand cuffed
But Nnamdi KANU, the new big fish, gets arrested and not one single disgraceful parade, not one single picture of Hus detention, not one single pics of him hand cuffed like the rest of them...interesting
Apart from vanguard, not one single Niggeria covered the arrest and even vanguard sef refers most of what they write from yet again IPOB, not Nigeria officials.

Dude shut it. It's obvious IPOB has something planning and it is working due to how dimwitted everyone in that backwards nation are...so actually kudos and thank you for proving my thesis on Niggerians.

What I got to say though, whatever you nigg@s got up your sleeves...you not only made that niggeria look like fools, you equally did the same to Biafra and ipob. Just so you know
Calm down bro, He was arrested they were just not sure what next step to take. IPOB will not stage an arrest, they will lose credibility if their sponsors find out. They are not that daft.
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by AyeeIdris(op): 12:34pm On Oct 20, 2015
papaejima1:
Yeah, that you never heard of him does not diminish his stature or import of his struggle one bit. I would advise you to take out sometime to listen to radio biafra if not for anything but to know if what they say is true.

Yes, Nnamdi at the beginning was rude and insulting and that put many of us off, but we addressed that issue. We told him it was not the way to go, and he immediately re-adjusted.

That he has called on youths to arm themselves in preparation is the proper thing to do when the police, army and navy can simply shoot you dead for simply gathering without even a demonstration or rioting.
I give you an instance, my friend came home shaken earlier this year after a confrontation with a hausa mopol who asked for his drivers license and he told the officer he was given only a paper by FRSC as his license was being processed, the mopol then demanded for money before letting him go. My friend got angry and told him it was against the law for him to reject the FRSC issued paper, and, the mopol "Provoked".
He cocked his gun and told the man, "You are an Igboman right? I will shoot you dead right now and nothing will happen!" Finally, my friend had to part with N1,500 with abeg sir just to escape with his life. That is the manner of injustice biafrans are subjected to daily across this nation.
I also happened to witness the killing by a police officer of a commercial bus driver at wimpey junction earlier this year over picking of passengers and not paying him.

These are what Nnamdi is highlighting!
nnamdi is not rich. Forget that. The money he makes and uses are donated by people all over the world. You are also mistaken if you think he uses the money for frivolous means. Ask about the welfare of the families and dependents of the IPOB members killed by the Nigerian Navy on 30th August 2015 and what Kanu and IPOB did for them.
Try and find out how much it costs to run a satellite transmission for 1 hr, shortwave for 1 hr, satellite TV for 1 hr etc then you will know how the money is being spent.

Radio stations should not be allowed to spread hate I agree so also shouldn't individuals. Talk to Junaid Mohammed and his cohorts. Talk to the late sarduana of sokoto. Talk to the current president of Nigeria (An attack against Boko haram is an attack against the north! - that is a peace building statement right?).

Martin Luther/Mandela never fought for freedom from their countries, they fought for equality! These are two different things.
Biafra existed before Lugard married us forcefully with Odua and Arewa. We are simply asking for us to return to our base configuration peacefully and you say no.

Nnamdi had to call for people to resist wanton killing and destruction after the Ezu river massacre. Read up on it. They were Biafrans and Massob members. What has and did the govt do about it? So you want us to sit back while they come to our homes take our people, shoot them and throw them into a river to be fish food so people like you will say we are peace loving people going about our struggle peacefully.

Now let me ask you this on a final note. Did you hear about the Ezu river massacre? Did you hear about the August 30th shooting of IPOB members on a peaceful evangelism by the navy?
As a lawyer, what have you done about it? Gani Fawehinmi was a lawyer who fought the govt to a standstill. Femi Falana was a lawyer who often stands up to the govt. Why haven't you done anything to challenge the extra-judicial murders being carried out by the security agencies against biafrans?

Answer that and you will know why Nnamdi is doing what he is doing and how he is doing it.
Hey. I get where you are coming from. Let me try my part to address the issues you raised.

Nigeria is a flawed nation. No one is disputing that. But there is no igbo agenda. The grievances you people suffer, the rest of us suffer too. No one is free from police harassment or intimidation. Sorry about your friend but a trigger happy igbo policeman can also do the same. A trigger happy hausa police will do same to a hausa man.Police of any tribe care only about the bribe you give them. they may lessen the amount if you speak their language, but that money they will collect.
Extra judicial killing is a collective Nigerian problem.

On the issue of Nnamdi Kanu's wealth, I don't know if what you say is true. Someone posted pictures of his house once and another picture in a very expensive Indian inspired white outfit. It didn't matter back then because I assume he works and is using his money, but if you say he is not wealthy, it could be that he is using the donations to fund a wealthy lifestyle. A kind of Ponzi scheme. I don't know how it takes to run a solo broadcast radio station. I cannot argue on that. I know nothing about the broadcasting world. I don't know if radio stations are charged a fee to air.....we know he's not paying to air... So I don't know if all donations, which really should be going to prepare the east for self governance, is going towards funding his station.

I did some research on the Ezu river massacre just now. While there was accusations and counter accusations, no one could really say what truly happened. From rituals, to communal clash, to police dumping criminals, to Massob claiming genocide......... The truth remains. We will probably never know what happened but it will be unfair to just go with the option that points to igbo genocide.

I gave a Mandela /Martin Luther King example, because they were referred, dignified in their resistance and are legends today. A gra gra "freedom fighter" is not what is needed. History has shown that once they (freedom fighters) gain power, they become dictators.

I pray you people get Biafra peacefully.. But that cannot be achieved when you include other regions that is not in the east. That's where, for me, the major grouse keeps revolving around... At least on Nairaland. I pray for a peaceful separation.

Please answer thiS. There are million of igbos all over the world. What do you think would happen if Nigeria is forcefully torn apart. A resentful Nigerian government will send every Igbo out of all regions (they are after all now illegal aliens).They may or may not diplomatically say if igbos want to leave in Nigeria, they need to acquire Biafran passports and then apply for immigration like any other African. Igbos leaving abroad would now be left with an invalid passport. Since it is now an e passport thing,a vindictive Nigerian government would cancel all igbos in diaspora' Nigerian passport leaving to mass exodus from all countries in the world. NO one would question Nigeria because as long as they are not killing igbos, no one can force them to be civil.The newly created country would be overwhelmed with million of displaced resentful igbos tromping in, leading to chaos.

So, a lot of things should be put in place first.Set up the East to be a place to be envied. There are brilliant igbo people developing the world and other parts of Nigeria, but neglecting their home. Sudan was granted a referendum and what happened, the new country is already having another civil war. History should never be ignored. It keeps us from repeating the same mistakes
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by BALLOSKI: 1:08pm On Oct 20, 2015
mrjangaweed:
lie nsi ebea
nkita okigwe grin grin
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by Nobody: 2:50pm On Oct 20, 2015
AyeeIdris:
You may be right. He may be a big fish. Outside Nairaland, i barely heard of the guy but the whole arrest thing has made him relevant. Maybe i am misjudging the guy's relevance. I don't know. The question i want to ask you, is his message the right type? Is his message the way a bloodless revolution can be achieved. I never listened to his broadcast but I have read on Nairaland that he has called on Igbo youths to arm themselves in preparation. That he has called on them to attack police stations and that he insults, not only other tribes but igbos that do not agree with him. I don't know if all of these are true or misunderstood . You can clarify that. My problem is that he doesn't have the qualities that makes a sympathetic freedom fighter. One, he is wealthy (you may say..and so?....but it kinda matters), he is not in Nigeria and he is not known for championing charity cases or using his money to develop the eastern region (if he has, please correct me)

You cannot fault Nigeria for jamming the signals. It is one thing to push for independence. It is another thing to continuously denounce a country and call for a break up in the harshest of terms. No sovereign nation in the world will be ok with that. Radio stations should never be allowed to spread hate. Read on the Rwandan Genocide. It is illegal. it is wrong. It is not the way to go.

Maybe I am not getting the guy's appeal but the limited people (igbos) i have spoken to, are not for him. They are all for Biafra. (Heck, if Biafra is what Igbos truly truly want and it can be achieved without blood, I am for Biafra too), but I wish there was a Martin Luther King/ Mandela figure leading the movement........
you list accusations against him
you say you are not sure if the accusations 're true
you go ahead and state categorically that he does not have the qualities of a freedom.
when you 're not sure?


I bow for you.


stick to reading sir. you have nothing to offer
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by Nobody: 3:07pm On Oct 20, 2015
AyeeIdris:
Hey. I get where you are coming from. Let me try my part to address the issues you raised.

Nigeria is a flawed nation. No one is disputing that. But there is no igbo agenda. The grievances you people suffer, the rest of us suffer too. No one is free from police harassment or intimidation. Sorry about your friend but a trigger happy igbo policeman can also do the same. A trigger happy hausa police will do same to a hausa man.Police of any tribe care only about the bribe you give them. they may lessen the amount if you speak their language, but that money they will collect.
Extra judicial killing is a collective Nigerian problem.

On the issue of Nnamdi Kanu's wealth, I don't know if what you say is true. Someone posted pictures of his house once and another picture in a very expensive Indian inspired white outfit. It didn't matter back then because I assume he works and is using his money, but if you say he is not wealthy, it could be that he is using the donations to fund a wealthy lifestyle. A kind of Ponzi scheme. I don't know how it takes to run a solo broadcast radio station. I cannot argue on that. I know nothing about the broadcasting world. I don't know if radio stations are charged a fee to air.....we know he's not paying to air... So I don't know if all donations, which really should be going to prepare the east for self governance, is going towards funding his station.

I did some research on the Ezu river massacre just now. While there was accusations and counter accusations, no one could really say what truly happened. From rituals, to communal clash, to police dumping criminals, to Massob claiming genocide......... The truth remains. We will probably never know what happened but it will be unfair to just go with the option that points to igbo genocide.

I gave a Mandela /Martin Luther King example, because they were referred, dignified in their resistance and are legends today. A gra gra "freedom fighter" is not what is needed. History has shown that once they (freedom fighters) gain power, they become dictators.

I pray you people get Biafra peacefully.. But that cannot be achieved when you include other regions that is not in the east. That's where, for me, the major grouse keeps revolving around... At least on Nairaland. I pray for a peaceful separation.

Please answer thiS. There are million of igbos all over the world. What do you think would happen if Nigeria is forcefully torn apart. A resentful Nigerian government will send every Igbo out of all regions (they are after all now illegal aliens).They may or may not diplomatically say if igbos want to leave in Nigeria, they need to acquire Biafran passports and then apply for immigration like any other African. Igbos leaving abroad would now be left with an invalid passport. Since it is now an e passport thing,a vindictive Nigerian government would cancel all igbos in diaspora' Nigerian passport leaving to mass exodus from all countries in the world. NO one would question Nigeria because as long as they are not killing igbos, no one can force them to be civil.The newly created country would be overwhelmed with million of displaced resentful igbos tromping in, leading to chaos.

So, a lot of things should be put in place first.Set up the East to be a place to be envied. There are brilliant igbo people developing the world and other parts of Nigeria, but neglecting their home. Sudan was granted a referendum and what happened, the new country is already having another civil war. History should never be ignored. It keeps us from repeating the same mistakes
wow nice postulation
but really dude no one asked Ur opinion.


cancel passport ni. cancel password ko.
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by emmysoftyou: 3:58pm On Oct 20, 2015
papaejima1:
First off, I am not against you. However, I would like you to know that you are wrong.
Nnamdi Kanu was arrested. It was designed to be an under-the-radar operation with a blanket media blackout. It failed woefully because Nnamdi has a system in place and a sequence of communication protocols that the high command put in place for such eventualities as this. Once it was breached, the cat was let out of the bag.

Again, you err in assuming Nnamdi is not the big fish he is made out to be. This is where you display your total ignorance or lack of deep insight on the whole biafra issue. The Niger delta boys who you term "strongmen" were nothing but touts propped up by politicians and given guns to wreak mayhem. They were only interested in making money and grabbing whatever they could from Nigeria.
Nnamdi has a different approach.
First he began to harness the power of social media, he began to consult, he began to read up and study the histories of freedom fighters. He understood his target audience and how to reach out to them.
He struck pay dirt when the political scenario in the country was polarized and highly charged, and decided to exploit it to drive the wedge in. In came the radio transmitters and relay stations. People gravitated towards him. He began to point out and analyse the faults and actions of the government towards the citizens and mostly towards the Biafrans. Buhari helped him too via his indecisiveness and blunders in appointments and even coming out to deny a statement by radio biafra, and finally failing to jam his radio signals.

Nnamdi is a big fish except you dont know it. A man who could command a following in 88 countries of the world with people donating upwards of N1 million naira at a go to the cause, single handedly purchasing relay stations and funding shortwave transmissions globally is no small person.

Nnamdi simply re-ignited the passion for freedom in the minds of the people. Even if Biafra doesnt come in the next 5 years, the issue will continue to simmer and smoulder until one day it will come to a head.

There is a proverb that the bird dancing in the road has a drummer beating a drum for it in the bush.
Remember too that Nigeria is fighting an insurgency in the north and sincerely cannot afford to have another one in the south from where the crude oil comes. It will tear the nation apart.

What they did was a probing attack. To see what will happen. Now listen to radio biafra and you will hear people talking about going after senator and reps members and their families, not even confronting the govt head-on, that alone can make this nation live on tentherhooks with every govt official considered a legitimate target by biafran activists.

Believe me, you wouldn't want such scenario evolving.

Somedays ago buratai was shouting that the integrity of Nigeria as a sovereign nation was being threatened, why do you think he said that? because of Boko Haram alone? Capital NO!!
He has seen that there are hidden hands manipulating events beyond FG's control and Nnamdi could just be one of such projects. So arresting him quietly and secretly arraigning him would be in order, but when the pressure mounts release him and tell the whole world you are obeying the UN and human rights laws and a responsible govt.

Just wait, the next few days will be fantastic.
on points....
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by emmysoftyou: 4:07pm On Oct 20, 2015
mrjangaweed:
Nkita lacha nne i anya ebea useless bastard Chino
onye ala.
you taught kanu is not popular worldwide but just look at what happened grin
like Mandela like kanu
Hopless bastard vagabond
bro stop insulting onenaira3..
he s not like that,i guess he misunderstood somethings recently.
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by mrjangaweed: 4:20pm On Oct 20, 2015
BALLOSKI:
nkita okigwe grin grin
Afo sagbuo i ebea
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by emmysoftyou: 4:28pm On Oct 20, 2015
papaejima1:
Yeah, that you never heard of him does not diminish his stature or import of his struggle one bit. I would advise you to take out sometime to listen to radio biafra if not for anything but to know if what they say is true.

Yes, Nnamdi at the beginning was rude and insulting and that put many of us off, but we addressed that issue. We told him it was not the way to go, and he immediately re-adjusted.


That he has called on youths to arm themselves in preparation is the proper thing to do when the police, army and navy can simply shoot you dead for simply gathering without even a demonstration or rioting.
I give you an instance, my friend came home shaken earlier this year after a confrontation with a hausa mopol who asked for his drivers license and he told the officer he was given only a paper by FRSC as his license was being processed, the mopol then demanded for money before letting him go. My friend got angry and told him it was against the law for him to reject the FRSC issued paper, and, the mopol "Provoked".
He cocked his gun and told the man, "You are an Igboman right? I will shoot you dead right now and nothing will happen!" Finally, my friend had to part with N1,500 with abeg sir just to escape with his life. That is the manner of injustice biafrans are subjected to daily across this nation.
I also happened to witness the killing by a police officer of a commercial bus driver at wimpey junction earlier this year over picking of passengers and not paying him.


These are what Nnamdi is highlighting!
nnamdi is not rich. Forget that. The money he makes and uses are donated by people all over the world. You are also mistaken if you think he uses the money for frivolous means. Ask about the welfare of the families and dependents of the IPOB members killed by the Nigerian Navy on 30th August 2015 and what Kanu and IPOB did for them.
Try and find out how much it costs to run a satellite transmission for 1 hr, shortwave for 1 hr, satellite TV for 1 hr etc then you will know how the money is being spent.


Radio stations should not be allowed to spread hate I agree so also shouldn't individuals. Talk to Junaid Mohammed and his cohorts. Talk to the late sarduana of sokoto. Talk to the current president of Nigeria (An attack against Boko haram is an attack against the north! - that is a peace building statement right?).

Martin Luther/Mandela never fought for freedom from their countries, they fought for equality! These are two different things.
Biafra existed before Lugard married us forcefully with Odua and Arewa. We are simply asking for us to return to our base configuration peacefully and you say no.


Nnamdi had to call for people to resist wanton killing and destruction after the Ezu river massacre. Read up on it. They were Biafrans and Massob members. What has and did the govt do about it? So you want us to sit back while they come to our homes take our people, shoot them and throw them into a river to be fish food so people like you will say we are peace loving people going about our struggle peacefully.

Now let me ask you this on a final note. Did you hear about the Ezu river massacre? Did you hear about the August 30th shooting of IPOB members on a peaceful evangelism by the navy?
As a lawyer, what have you done about it? Gani Fawehinmi was a lawyer who fought the govt to a standstill. Femi Falana was a lawyer who often stands up to the govt. Why haven't you done anything to challenge the extra-judicial murders being carried out by the security agencies against biafrans?


Answer that and you will know why Nnamdi is doing what he is doing and how he is doing it.
true true..wise men came from the east.

God bless the children of biafrans..

nwanne, you too much..i love every words you put out there..
So concise
So precise..

Biko carry on..
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by emmysoftyou: 4:32pm On Oct 20, 2015
Lilswaghanxum:
Allow. me to say this, U ARE WORDED
that guy write like pezienza in culture and politics forum..
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by emmysoftyou: 6:37pm On Oct 20, 2015
AyeeIdris:
nigeria is a flawed nation and no one is disputing it.
i am happy that you know that nigeria as a country is a flawed nation and yet you still wants us to continued with the flawed nation? Whyhuh.germany,italy,and holland for example re one linguistically a small nation, but see where they re today with little resources?look at ghana too,developing drastically,if you put germany and italy together,do you think they will still grow up to this stage they rehuh However,we the biafrans re fed up and really want to go since the cesspit called nigeria is not working including the systems. We have given all their leaders from north to southwest the chance to ruled this country as they want yet couldnt fix this accursed nation.why..? biafran leaving may be a blessings in disguised.believe me.

AyeeIdris:
On the issue of Nnamdi Kanu's wealth, I don't know if what you say is true. Someone posted pictures of his house once and another picture in a very expensive Indian inspired white outfit. It didn't matter back then because I assume he works and is using his money, but if you say he is not wealthy, it could be that he is using the donations to fund a wealthy lifestyle.
why re people interested if he(nnamdi kanu) is wealthy or not, the most important thing is that,we the biafrans re seeing the impacts of nnamdi kanu's agitation. Wether he is rich or not is not our concerns sist,we the biafrans re self employed individuals and we re not poor neither lazy. So forget about how money is coming in and out or how he built his expensive home in whatever places you saw the pix. Pls Leave that issue for another day.

AyeeIdris:
I gave a Mandela /Martin Luther King example, because they were referred, dignified in their resistance and are legends today. A gra gra "freedom fighter" is not what is needed. History has shown that once they (freedom fighters) gain power, they become dictators.
why would you compared martins luther the king and mandela to that of independent people of biafra(ipob).they re different persons here,luther the king jnr/mandela re fighting for equality of black race while nnamdi kanu is fighting for independence of biafra. Some of you thought southafrica got her independent in 1990/3 but they got their independent in 1910/12 but the white southafricans were the one ruling and in charged of all administrative until mandela felt that what the white were doing to his people(blacks)was wrong thing.(read the apathaid system.)

Stop referring nnamdi kanu as ''gragra'' freedom fighter when we have not started taking arms to cause anarchy in nigeria.mind your words sir.nnamdi kanu is a freedom fighter and cannot become a dictator as you said,this is 21 century and things have change but leave that for another day. when we cross the bridge,we'll surely fix things right..
AyeeIdris:
I pray you people get Biafra peacefully.. But that cannot be achieved when you include other regions that is not in the east. That's where, for me, the major grouse keeps revolving around.
ma, re you one of those who believed biafra territory ends in southeast alone cos they igbos?ok if we go by the word igbo people alone, do you think we dont have igbo people in benue,edo,delta,rivers and akwa ibom too? Anyway eventhough some denied igbo doesnt mean all will denied us. We shall pass the referendum to those willing to join their brothers in the east.by the old map of biafra it

includes southsouth too.but no problems.
AyeeIdris:
The newly created country would be overwhelmed with million of displaced resentful igbos tromping in, leading to chaos.
this is the negative side of your thought,but God is great,he will surely see us through.We re not given up,we re christians,and nothing we stop children of biafrans from surviving.We will never be resentful as you assumed it to be..amen.

AyeeIdris:
So, a lot of things should be put in place first.Set up the East to be a place to be envied. There are brilliant igbo people developing the world and other parts of Nigeria, but neglecting their home. Sudan was granted a referendum and what happened, the new country is already having another civil war. History should never be ignored. It keeps us from repeating the same mistakes
who told you a lot of things have not being put in place in eastern enclave? Sometime you people talks from what you see from afar. But we re proud biafrans and we envied our terrain. It s Just that most of you people dont travels as my people does.if i asks you now,have you being to enugu or abiriba, your answers is No. So stop comparing us with sudan, we re intelligent people and we shall handled things intelligently. sudan fails doesnt mean biafra will fail.
God bless the republic of biafra
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by AyeeIdris(op): 6:41pm On Oct 20, 2015
We are quick to call on our culture and religion when it suits us but we are quick to forget what our culture and religion teaches us about raining curses on people. There is a huge line between light shade yabbing and cursing one's parents or wishing death on people.

Please, let's not be so quick to cuss out a virtual stranger. You don't have to raise to baits all the time. Your ability of self control is what separates man and wild animals. Let's learn to live in peace


I sound like Gandhi 's long lost descendant. grin. Namaaste kiss
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by Olabestonic001(m): 7:00pm On Oct 20, 2015
@Op: Don't mind this Biafra e-warriors. Rather than them to win more friends and woo people to their cause, they would rather become more arrogant and insultive.
In life, you much learn to woo people not bad-mouth them. Until an average Igbo man learn and master this rule, their frustrations would know no bound.




N.B: Op watch as they play true-to-type on my theory about them.*lolz*
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by AyeeIdris(op): 7:26pm On Oct 20, 2015
emmysoftyou:
i am happy that you know that nigeria as a country is a flawed nation and yet you still wants us to continued with the flawed nation? Whyhuh.germany,italy,and holland for example re one linguistically a small nation, but see where they re today with little resources?look at ghana too,developing drastically,if you put germany and italy together,do you think they will still grow up to this stage they rehuh However,we the biafrans re fed up and really want to go since the cesspit called nigeria is not working including the systems. We have given all their leaders from north to southwest the chance to ruled this country as they want yet couldnt fix this accursed nation.why..? biafran leaving may be a blessings in disguised.believe me.

why re people interested if he(nnamdi kanu) is wealthy or not, the most important thing is that,we the biafrans re seeing the impacts of nnamdi kanu's agitation. Wether he is rich or not is not our concerns sist,we the biafrans re self employed individuals and we re not poor neither lazy. So forget about how money is coming in and out or how he built his expensive home in whatever places you saw the pix. Pls Leave that issue for another day.

why would you compared martins luther the king and mandela to that of independent people of biafra(ipob).they re different persons here,luther the king jnr/mandela re fighting for equality of black race while nnamdi kanu is fighting for independence of biafra. Some of you thought southafrica got her independent in 1990/3 but they got their independent in 1910/12 but the white southafricans were the one ruling and in charged of all administrative until mandela felt that what the white were doing to his people(blacks)was wrong thing.(read the apathaid system.)

Stop referring nnamdi kanu as ''gragra'' freedom fighter when we have not started taking arms to cause anarchy in nigeria.mind your words sir.nnamdi kanu is a freedom fighter and cannot become a dictator as you said,this is 21 century and things have change but leave that for another day. when we cross the bridge,we'll surely fix things right..
ma, re you one of those who believed biafra territory ends in southeast alone cos they igbos?ok if we go by the word igbo people alone, do you think we dont have igbo people in benue,edo,delta,rivers and akwa ibom too? Anyway eventhough some denied igbo doesnt mean all will denied us. We shall pass the referendum to those willing to join their brothers in the east.by the old map of biafra it

includes southsouth too.but no problems.
this is the negative side of your thought,but God is great,he will surely see us through.We re not given up,we re christians,and nothing we stop children of biafrans from surviving.We will never be resentful as you assumed it to be..amen.

who told you a lot of things have not being put in place in eastern enclave? Sometime you people talks from what you see from afar. But we re proud biafrans and we envied our terrain. It s Just that most of you people dont travels as my people does.if i asks you now,have you being to enugu or abiriba, your answers is No. So stop comparing us with sudan, we re intelligent people and we shall handled things intelligently. sudan fails doesnt mean biafra will fail.
God bless the republic of biafra
Ok, my soon to be former country man grin, I truly pray your desire for secession does not become something you would regret someday. It is one thing to love your tribe, but lets not be blind to its faults. The east has been ruled by Igbos for the past 55 years. Is it really any different from other parts of the country ruled by other tribes. Is it not likely that bad leadership is an encompassing problem suffered in all region, which is not likely to go away, simply because you have your own country? Think about it. Are Igbos truly united as one tribe or do they suffer internal conflicts like every other tribe?

Me, I don't want or need war. As an amateur war historian (Macabre, i know), no one wins in today's modern warfare. Nobody. I went to a predominately igbo school. i served in a core yoruba town. I did my Law School in the North. Every tribe brings something to the table. If we can keep aside all these pettiness, let go of the past, put our resources today.....what would America be, compared to us? Nigerians are amazingly talented people. We should be great. I expect my generation to be better and fix things. Secession won't serve anyone and i pray we don't learn that too late
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by emmysoftyou: 12:04am On Oct 21, 2015
AyeeIdris:
Ok, my soon to be former country man grin, I truly pray your desire for secession does not become something you would regret someday.
you re not biafran,you re so pessimistic about us,we the biafrans re not afraid what may be fall us after our freedom? but we have this positive feelings in our hearts that the great biafra nation will be a great country.i believes so much on stage developmenT and gradual processing development at due time..
So woman, dont cry me a rivers of regrets here. Thanx for your concerns or advised.
AyeeIdris:
The east has been ruled by Igbos for the past 55 years. Is it really any different from other parts of the country ruled by other tribes. Is it not likely that bad leadership is an encompassing problem suffered in all region, which is not likely to go away, simply because you have your own country? Think about it.
my dear sorry to say this,you type/write like a naive person.
dont you know there is a different btw ruling your state and the president of the country coming from that region is also helping to supports your projects and development in your socio polical region. See what an hausa man(babagida) did in abuja because he is a northerner,see what some past hausa head of state did to developed kano,katsina and kadunna state in the north because the president of nigeria is from there. They went to kaduna,a dry land to built refinery instead of locating it in akwa ibom or bayelsa state.
What assistant did they rendered in the east, nothing, common river niger bridge that lead to southsouth and southeast,they re finding it difficult to embarked on. Dredging of river niger so that we can have our own seaports,instead of going to lagos to use their seaport,the zoo leaders refused to embarked on such project there cos they wants us to be coming to lagos to make use of their seaports why? So all charges or taxes will be use to developed lagos state,all because of hatred.
If the government really want to work on nigeria, he shouldnt concentrates on one region for development.if lagos that belongs to the west has seaports,then east should ve its own and other region too. Since they want every region to embraced this entity called nigeria then they should be ready to take care of all regions. If not for stella oduah,our daughter from the east,our airport wouldnt ve being upgraded by the zoo leaders.
Enugwu as a state has a coal that can transmits 12000megawatts but the zoo leaders just neglected that site cos they felt it s on the igbo soil. So they wont step in there. Nothing like federal government present in the whole of southeast, sist,i am not lamenting cos i hope for better days in the land of the rising sun.so many things to point out but let me stop here.
AyeeIdris:
Are Igbos truly united as one tribe or do they suffer internal conflicts like every other tribe?
igbos re more united than before. no one can decieves us about igbos not being united, i can assured you that we re more united and chukwuabiama has laid his blessings upon us. We do ve misunderstanding but solves it without external interference. If other igbos re denying themselves does not mean we re confuse,scatter or not united. We re more united than before and thats why nnamdi kanu is making wave. Every igbo man is proud of his identity, when you see them, you will know them..



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the federal govt from the north re making efforts to see that the eastern enclave is backward but they will not succeed, thank God we ve good governors in anambra,enugwu,abia and imo state etc..go to anambra and see massive construction going on day and night. Enugwu is already a state of aesthetic while imo is a place beautification.
Anambra stiill retains industralization and beauty.
So we re optismistic and we believes that our country,i mean new nation will be great,i will rather suffers in the lands of the rising sun for the main time than to mingle or keep merging with a tribes full of hatred and envy that doesnt wants anything good from southeastern state.

verily,i said unto you God will surely visits them with angers one day and he will strike the jealousy and the envy ones among thee. sad
Amen.
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Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by AyeeIdris(op): 1:06am On Oct 21, 2015
grin Amen
Re: Nnamdi Kanu's Arrest, Bail......scam Or A Game. Opinion by emmysoftyou: 7:36am On Oct 21, 2015
AyeeIdris:
grin Amen
keep saying amen, you can see the taxes an igbo man is meant to pay the govt of ekiti? Very exorbitant and very expensive..
this is how they treat my people unfair every blessed day..
They paid outrageous taxes that is on the high side, now they ve seals their business offices in ekiti state..
Very wicked people from d zoo..


www.nairaland.com/2679466/taxes-ekiti-seals-businesses-igbo

But God pass them.
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