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Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Truckpusher(m): 8:05am On Oct 21, 2015 |
kostadinis:On the highlighted I beg to disagree in as much as I have opined several times that we share a lot in common culturally but let me make it very clear that the Ogba Egbema Ndoni people of Rivers Sate are not Igbos but a distinctive tribe with their own distinctive culture and if we follow your line of argument we should be saying that Hausa,Fulani and Kanuris are all Arabs and possibly Fulanis. I am not against self determination of any kind from any part of the country but deliberately spreading falsehood while masking it with all sorts cheap propaganda that smacks of land grabbing and regional annexation is another form of what is happening in Nigeria where the rest of the states wants the Igbos to remain despite their kick against the oppressive system of the Nigerian state. Your deliberate distortion of historical facts to sooth your agenda will only alarm these people that you want to force into your struggle and there lies your downfall. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by babylapaixlove: 8:06am On Oct 21, 2015 |
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Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by ArodeTsolaye: 8:07am On Oct 21, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: Of course just like anambra government, abia government, Imo government, they are there because they feed from the zoo. Abooki Shine shoe, Your divide-and-rule engine don knock and we dey your gworo-teeth. |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Nobody: 8:08am On Oct 21, 2015 |
superstar1:Nwamkpi na esi nsi |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Nobody: 8:09am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Why South South Nations Won't Join Biafra. South South nations will rather form thier Own Confederation or seperate Nations Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to Biafra. This deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is completely different from Biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and Hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba instead. As far as I am concern IGBO, YORUBA and HAUSA are all benefitting from the current system. Afterall an IGBO man Gen Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in 1966 that we are complaining against today. When Isaac Adaka Boro wanted to form Ijaw Nation Republic in 1966 it was Igbo Head of State Gen Agunyi Ironsi that fought him with a 12 days war. The Igbo claim to be one of us because some south south states were part of the old Eastern region. First of all, eastern region was created by Nigeria for Nigeria convenience. It was not a decision of the nationalities that made up the old eastern region. Secondly before most people forget, today edo and delta state were never at anytime part of eastern region. edo and delta were first Western region later became Midwestern region, then change to Bendel state before becoming edo and delta state today. some tribes speak Yoruba in edo and delta state. why is Yoruba not claiming edo and delta state the way Igbo is claiming rivers and delta states because some people speak ibo in those states? Igbo may have succeeded in brainwashing some south south people that they are one of us, it is a big lie. They may have succeeded in brainwashing some of us that only hausa and Yoruba is the problem of south south, it is a big lie. They are the same as far as I am concern. The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in Population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Sigapore. if Qatar and Sigapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like qatar and enjoy thier oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!! Below is the size of south south states and south east states. South South is almost 3times the size of south East. Yet the population of South east is almost 80% of south south population base on 2006 census. But by the time you add igbo who are currently leaving outside south east, you will discover that thier population is more than all the south south put together. More than 90% of the resources (oil, gas, limestones,etc) are in the south south. The whole of South East is landlock with no direct access to the sea or atlantic ocean. but almost all the south south states have direct assess to the sea and atlantic ocean. Some will say they have River Niger. River Niger is not a sea or an ocean for big Ships. Tell me why South South Nations will want to form a country with south east if they have a choice ? all south east will bring to the table is population and domination? The total oil production from south east is not up to 10% of south south oil production! If you are the leader of south south nations will you advice them to form a country with south east if they have the option of forming their own country alone? give a sincere answer? As far as I am concern, as unbrainwashed south south , there is no difference between the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me, these are three major tribe struggling and fighting for Supiriority. Whenever any of the three is loosing, he shout Marginalization. During Jonathan govt, the Igbos were gaining and were in control and were happy. The Yoruba were losing and were shouting Marginalization. The hausa/fulani were not happy because they were not fully in control. For the North we can slightly understand because in the 16years of democracy (May 1999 to May 2015) the south ruled 13.3years while the North had just 2.7years The Igbo don't love south south more than the hausa or Yoruba love us. All the three tribe are all struggling for the control of south south oil. None of the three is better than the other as far as we south south are concern. The only place south south nationalities agree with Igbo is Nigeria should divide. However while south south clamour for succession is base on lack of true fiscal Federalism, on the other hand, igbo clamour for succession is base on IGBO BORN TO RULE, CONTROL AND EXPLOIT MENTALITY. Igbo make noise and claim d north have born to rule mentality because of Sokoto State former motto of born to rule which they have change. The People with the true born to rule mentality are d Igbo. it is because they are not having thier way that they are complaining and making all d noise all over Nigeria. But how and why Nigeria will and should divide, what we want and what they want is as different as d distance of the earth to d moon. South south want thier own freedom. we will support Biafra as Igbo only nation while they should support us to form our own nation or nations. But trying to add us as an appendage to Biafra will never happen. If south south join Biafra, our individual identities will be wiped out in less than 50years. They will convert every south south nationality to Igbo. And they will so much take charge of the oil and resources with reckless abandon without any regard to d minorities. LET EVERYONE FORMS HIS OWN NATION. SOUTH SOUTH NATIONS DONT WANT IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA IN THIER NATION. WE DONT WANT ANY DOMINANT TRIBE TO CONTROL US IF OR WHEN NIGERIA DIVIDE. They will argue that there are some igbo in rivers state, delta state and edo state. As far as i am concern Igbo speaking people in south south will join Niger delta republic or confederation. Their are Hausa people in Niger, there are Yoruba people in Benin Republic and Togo. Does that make those yoruba and hausa speaking people in those countries Nigerians? The south south nationalities can form a confederation with United Arab Emirate template, where seven different nationalities came together to form a confederation with each nationality having some form of autonomy. if the south east want to join the confederation they can join. We can't leave nigeria and go and form another normal single country were there is a dominant tribe. That will be moving from frying pan to fire. Just like the United Ararb emirate asked qatar and behrain to join them, but qatar and behrain choose to form thier individual countries. What Biafra represent is a single country with a powerful centre where a dominant tribe can control. South south dont want that. If we must fight or struggle for succession, we need a new name like "United State of niger delta" or any other name which clearly shows a union rather than a single country. We need to set the record straight before south south nations make the mistake of south Sudan. It is more than Four years south sudan left sudan to form thier country. Since that time south sudan has been in War while North Sudan enjoy peace. This was because nations in south sudan came together to form a single country without ensuring that thier difference in ethnicity was fully discuss. Some part of south sudan are now feeling marginalized. That is exactly what will happen if Igbo succeed in forcing south south nations into Biafra. That so called Biafra wont have peace. It will be another Somalia!!!! For peace to rain let Igbo form Biafra from the Five south east state and let the the six states in south south form a confederation or seperate nations. Anything outside this will never work. I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander. What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration. I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it. Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen. a quote from Isaac Adaka Boro Autobiography (wriiten himself). Read Chapter 5 - Campus Politics http://www.adakaboro.org/the12dayrev/chapter-5-campus-politics. This was the campaign statement of his opponent for UNN SUG presidency: "My opponent, Ejiogu, took the floor when I had finished, and what did he say? "Ladies and gentleman, this is a crucial time in Nigeria when we should not allow a vocal minority to rule an obvious majority. These words still ring in my memory because, as my opponent put it, they are crucial not only to me but to my people, the Ijaws. Most of the alien students walked out of the hall and it seemed as if a spell was cast on the atmosphere. The campaigns ended solemnly and the result of the election was again one way. Ejiogu won with his majority. The last minute strategy. A Cameroonian friend of mine, John Ngole, promptly resigned his secretaryship of the Historical Society in protest." I am very sure that Nigeria will divide faster if Igbo seek Biafra with 5 south east state alone and Niger delta republic seek a country with the 6 South south states alone at the same time. Once the Hausa and Yoruba sees that Igbo are supporting a Niger Delta republic separate from Biafra, they will see it as true struggle. But if the struggle is about Biafra with south south in it, where Igbo will gain south south resources with Yoruba and Hausa loosing out, I bet you until South South oil finishes, Nigeria wont divide. We don't need to form a single country with Igbo, we can seek for our separate nation on two front simultaneously but not on one front. What we need is cooperation from Igbo not togetherness with Igbo. If they truly want to leave Nigeria and liberate Niger delta people from dominant tribes, they should support us to form our nation as they form thiers. I bet you when that happen, the struggle will be half won. The Ojukwu Biafra was Igbo dream not Ijaw, Esan, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ikwerre, ogoni, ibibio, etc dream. In summary, my point is if Nigeria will divide peacefully by United Nations referendum, south south will not join Biafra. Peaceful division of Nigeria can only be into a minimum of five countries (Arewa republic, Niger Middle belt, United Niger Delta, Oduwa republic, and Biafra). South South will form its own nation/nations. The only way south south and south east will form a single country like Biafra is if Nigeria divide by War because population will be important in size of Army. My Igbo neighbour may not like this submission, but it is the bitter truth 6 Likes
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Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by absoluteSuccess: 8:09am On Oct 21, 2015 |
South yeast things. 1 Like |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Rapture007: 8:11am On Oct 21, 2015 |
By Ifeyinwa Onyeabo Again I do not understand it, I simply do not. You are not igbo Your are not even confused like Amaechi on whether you are igbo or not There is absolutely nothing that connects you to igbo such that you will be listened to as a people who does not want the self determination which APPARENTLY most Igbos desire. But you are loudest in calling the dream for a separate independent nation -PIPE DREAM And the next minute, you are supporting the killing of Igbos in other parts of NIGERIA and their deportation and then you ask them to go back home and demand why they are controlling a market where they have a majority. Are you sick or what? You get to a market where 99% are Igbos and they end up voting for one of their own to be head of the market association and you start hating? You carry placards on Isolo road where there are igbo companies demanding that they should go home and stop taking over businesses, you allege that the money for which the properties are bought were stolen, then you call them petty traders (let us forget the petty traders are the ones leading the Nigerian education system, quiz, debates even on the international scene) then the next minute you are selling a house to Linda Ikeji. What is your interest in Biafra when from all intents and purposes, you are never going to be part of the referendum. If I call your customs barbaric why don't you look for any of my customs to call barbaric. You think Osu caste system is not a good thing to be done, as a civilised person, I agree. But when I said Abobaku, Magun or Yerima marrying a 10 year old are barbaric, you start jumping around, asking me to respect your tradition. You are indeed the mascot for this country's mental retardation department. Let me repeat this, I do not get angry when I see an Igbo man against self determination, I also do not get angry when I see an Igbo man for self determination, I believe they are both exercising their rights and what I do is listen or read the two and counter their points if need be, but I do get worried when I see a non igbo telling the Igbos why they should not be demanding for self determination. What is your business in what happens to the Igbos in Biafra? Are you the savior of the world? Nnamdi Kanu has every right to demand for the dissolution of NIGERIA. It is a guaranteed right by the United Nations. Self determination is not treason. YOUR BBB even proved it when he campaigned for one for the Paletsine. The Catalonians said Spain practise the bull fight which they consider barbaric, I did not see Spanish people jumping around and crying wolf when there is none. I am igbo, 101%. I never wished to be anything else. Not even when it was time for me to marry. I am Igbo, you cannot muzzle us to be humble, you did nothing to earn our humility. I am Igbo, if you do anyhow, you will see anyhow. Not even the arrest of all the igbo asking for a referendum can stop the desire. So why try. This agitation had been on for more than 40 years. If you were not an illiterate, like your BBB, you would wonder how come this desire is not dead yet. And if you come here to open that your cheaply smelly mouth and say rubbish, your case shall be the case of Dele Giwa, who couldn't differentiate between a letter bomb and a love letter. 3 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Davindal(m): 8:12am On Oct 21, 2015 |
atbu1983:Thunder fire you! For this dumbest comment. Did I hear you say Igbo people protested alone? You are a fool. I'm from Rivers state, precisely Obia/Akpor LGA of the state. We are proudly Ibos. Indeginous Ibos of Rivers state arethe majority in this state. Daft come down here and see for yourself and stop leaving in the fool's paradise. Even Calabari, Ijaw people joined the protest yesterday, if you don't know. You are a clown for this most stupid comment. You people have been inciting us against our south-eastern brothers, but we now know better. As for our state govt's denial; it's a normal thing, you don't expect them to show side openly if you fools understand. 8 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Abagworo(m): 8:12am On Oct 21, 2015 |
HopeAtHand: Biko take it easy. Do you think that the protest could hold without Wike's knowledge? A game has been played and the Government can never admit being part of the game by the way. Mean while a lot of Ikwerre, Etche and Eleme men were in the protest verified by me. I am not pro-Biafra especially when they involve South south but I always stick to the truth I know. 5 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Goke7: 8:13am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Am not fooled by the Rivers Govt position, they are aware of it for the protesters to be so bold to lock down the city. The biafra thing is one of the propaganda from the pdp to distract the FG and paint them bad before the whole world as an oppressive Govt so they can have some mileage to see if they can get back to aso rock even before 2019. The Rivers Govt is only trying to play politics by denying biafra The biafra thing will continue for as long as pdp remains in oppositon, why? The biafra people are the same people that 1. are crying for appointments from the FG 2. are supporting saraki and carrying him on his head 3. supporting Ekwereamdu and don't see anything bad in a opposition becoming dsp, something pdp itself can't take 4. don't want amaechi as minister, 5. have fayose as their hero and even say he is better than awolowo, 6. same people crying witch hunt 7. are yet to recover from GEJ's loss at the polls even when the ijaws have moved on 8. blaming the sw for GEJ' failure 9. love ffk the most and see aribisala as the only brilliant person from sw 10. see everywhere in Nigeria as a no man's land and disrespect their host communities where they reside, something they can't take themselves. We are not fooled by pdp's propaganda machine, they are a liability that we just need to manage for now. 11 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Nobody: 8:15am On Oct 21, 2015 |
hmmm... |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Tripleclick(m): 8:16am On Oct 21, 2015 |
salamido:plz , shut up ... Nigeria shud hv not blockade our border tru russia and british force and sign out bakassi to comeron,, now de r beggin boko haram to surrender , why not blockade dm.. nonsense 1 Like |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Truckpusher(m): 8:17am On Oct 21, 2015 |
No Rivers man nor Niger Deltan is against the agitation for a separate state by the Igbos but distorting historical facts and changing names of places and cities to sooth your movement is an insult taken too far - I think at this point our Igbo neighbors really need to sit down, think thoroughly what they want and how they wish to achieve it and if any alliance is needed , it should be solely based on mutual agreement and not some propaganda that smacks of insults that won't go down well with the minority tribes of the Niger Delta. This same mistake was made in 1967 and it would be stupidity on anyone's part to make the same political mistake after more than 40 years. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by 01Mysticdon(m): 8:18am On Oct 21, 2015 |
QuotaSystem:Biafra Is not Niger Delta. Nigeria is not a country, quote me anywhere 1 Like |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by ArodeTsolaye: 8:18am On Oct 21, 2015 |
gykes: Another yoruba 'We SS' criminal.How many ikwerre will ever say 'obako ikwerre'? Oga it is 'Ogbakor Ikwerre'- In simple Igbo meaning 'The coming together of Ikwerre'. Why are you fulani-inspiresmd yorubas these shameless? Listen in this information age,Lies do not go unchallenged, they are cut down before they become quasi-truth. Biafra will keep marching on, whether you fulani, hausas and yoruboids like it or not. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Tripleclick(m): 8:18am On Oct 21, 2015 |
ocelot2006:i know u gux may not be really be comfortable with biafra.. but i know.. u gux want ur own country.. cus nigeria is not treatn u gux well |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by missKiffy(f): 8:20am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Diamonddris:You must be dreaming |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Nobody: 8:20am On Oct 21, 2015 |
atbu1983: I guess you will never get tired because this is your Job, propaganda.... dont borther yourself this is 2015....so some goats here wants Rivers state top come out to say they support it ..bunch of Idiotss 1 Like |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by ZUBY77(m): 8:20am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Has any state government supported it openly? |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by HopeAtHand: 8:21am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Abagworo: I didn't want to make mention of it but i heard it from a source that Wike told security agencies to give them protection and escort them..the info has not been verified though, as i dnt usually regard igbo sources. Wike is playing politics with everything..he has one eye on the tribunal and is trying to appeal to Igbos incase his election is overturned.a cheap popularity attempt. Having 20 or so Ikwerres amongst them didnt detract from the fact that a vast majority of Ikwerres dislike Igbos and will never partake. 4 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Holyman3(m): 8:22am On Oct 21, 2015 |
superstar1: And you being a waste of human space thinks that a state government will support the movement openly. |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by kestolove95(m): 8:22am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Yeebos nd dia evil deeds |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by ArodeTsolaye: 8:23am On Oct 21, 2015 |
IGBOSON1: Succintly put from a verified Igbo man from Rivers. cc: Quotasystem(hausa), gykes(yoruba) and all other 'We SSners' who are really abooki and yorrober. Divide-and-rule don expire o. 3 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Rapture007: 8:23am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Truckpusher:please pick your book and read. You are a big disgrace to ur family. 1 Like |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by HopeAtHand: 8:27am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Truckpusher: You are a part of the problem. You and your likes give them belief..extending a hand of friendship to Igbos will only strength their lies.they are a people known to mistake intents..see how they have turned things on its head and are blatantly distorting facts and brandishing false claims. Keep it up. 7 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Davindal(m): 8:28am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Rapture007:Thank you sis! You nailed it. I'm from Rivers State, and I'm Ibo. It pains us when they try to incite us against our south-eastern brothers. But we now know better. They should leave us alone. They should understand that we have the ibos as majority here in Rivers State. We can't deny our brothers and origin, our elders from 2 local govts made the mistake of denial shortly after the war, but now they have realised their mistakes, and are re-alligning. Relax sis. Referendum will take place in 2017's firt quater; then, they will be shocked. But for now, we are waiting for actions. 5 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by HopeAtHand: 8:29am On Oct 21, 2015 |
ArodeTsolaye: Who dash monkey banana.. Who dash Igboson1 Rivers, does he now want to deny his father because of oil?? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Tripleclick(m): 8:29am On Oct 21, 2015 |
searching4love:Easier said dm done,, sambisa forest is there for experiment |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by swaggerdgrt(m): 8:33am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Weda bad belle people like it or not,BIAFRA must come,we must acheive BIAFRA..offcos d state governors will deny it jst to play alng wit d ZOOO government but who cares,dey shud nt mke d mistke by shootin anybdy if not.... |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by ilyas26(m): 8:33am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Wike why you break people heart like dis na. RIP IPOB, dead on arrival 2 Likes |
Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by ArodeTsolaye: 8:34am On Oct 21, 2015 |
HopeAtHand: Another 'We Ss' yorrober mechanic don land to repair the knocked divide-and-rule engine. You go repair tire. 1 Like
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Re: Rivers Govt Dissociates Itself From Seperatist Protest In The State by Truckpusher(m): 8:34am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Rapture007:Actually your father is the big disgrace here. This is the recent attitude of you IPOB touts and street urchins - If you like you can distort the history of a people that has their own identity permanently sealed in their heart, you'll only succeed in hurting yourself. You want out from Nigeria,you're angry at Nigeria but you want to force others to jettison their own identity to enable your movement become a cohesive one ,can't you see your hypocrisy right before your face, dumbo. How about admitting yourself into a psychiatric clinic to ascertain the state of your health before running amok here? Wike is simply keeping quiet because of the recent political problems trailing his administration because if I were him all you touts that protested in Port Harcourt would rot in jail for life to serve as a lesson to other jobless youths that have left their various states in search of greener pasture not to foment trouble and cause uneasiness to their host. 3 Likes |
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