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"God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:46pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
God cannot be tempted. Jesus was tempted. Therefore, Jesus cannot be God. Explain. "Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone" (James 1:13) "For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin" (Hebrews 4:15). How do we answer this objection? |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by Nobody: 3:48pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Lol.
Confused christians |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:49pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Durentt: In other words, you haven't got a clue. 1 Like |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by pass111(m): 4:06pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
We should also consider Deuteronomy 6:16 , which instructs the Israelites to be careful that they do not to tempt the Lord. Likewise, Malachi 3:15 refers to the wicked who tempt God with their evil lifestyles. Jesus even quoted the Old Testament Scriptures when He warned others not to tempt the Lord (e.g., Matthew 4:7 and Luke 4:12 ). Today we mostly use the term tempt specifically to mean to “solicit to do evil.” However, the term has not always been quite so narrowly interpreted. In the Bible this word conveys that idea at times, but at other times it means to “put to the test.” The context helps to determine which meaning is intended. James clearly stated, “God cannot be tempted by evil ” . The phrase “by evil” is important because it highlights the point James was trying to make. This clearly indicates that God cannot be enticed to commit evil. In the other passages above that referred to tempting God, the writers were using the term to mean we must not put God to the test. Here is the line of reasoning: 1. God has said He will judge sin. 2. When we sin, we are putting God to the test to see if He will respond to our sin by doing what He has said He will do. 3. We must not “test” the extent of God’s grace but instead obey what He has told us to do. Now, along with this question of whether or not God can be tempted, another potential dilemma arises, which is often stated like this: 1. James 1:13 tells us God cannot be tempted by evil. 2. According to Luke 4, Matthew 4, and Hebrews 4:15 , Jesus was tempted by evil. 3. Therefore, Jesus was not God or this is a contradiction. There are two keys to understanding this mystery. First, we must keep in mind the hypostatic union of the two natures of Christ. That’s a pretty fancy way of saying that Jesus was fully man and fully God at the same time. Jesus had a fully human nature (but sinless), and He had the nature of God. Second, it is important to understand the difference between internal enticement and external enticement. When Jesus was tempted, His temptation came from an external source: Satan (Luke 4:2 ; Matthew 4:1 ). When we are tempted, this comes right from within our own hearts due to our own sinful natures, although the temptation to sin can be kindle by something external. James 1:14 tells us, “But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.” So could Jesus sin or not? This question has been debated by theologians for centuries, and although all true Christians agree that Jesus did not sin, they do not agree on whether or not He could have sinned. Other than agreeing that Jesus did not sin, Answers in Genesis does not hold a position on this debate. We would urge you to carefully and prayerfully study Scripture and consult with your local church on this subject. There are three common views on the subject. Some hold the impeccability position (Latin non posse peccare ). This view states that Christ could not have sinned, and thus was not even tempted, during the “temptations.” Others hold the peccability view (posse non peccare ), meaning that He could have sinned. A third position attempts to find middle ground and is based on Christ having both a human nature and divine nature. This view says that in His human nature, He could have sinned, but in His divine nature, He could not. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by trapQ: 4:11pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
The first statement is about GOD the father (I suppose you know the trinity). Yes no one can tempt GOD. The second statement is about GOD the son (JESUS CHRIST), he was GOD in human form, and faced everything we face daily as mere mortals. Eg hunger, trials, temptations etc This isn't confusing to chritians. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by Nobody: 4:18pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Na now u know? Jesus is the SON of God. He is not God. But my Christendom brothers will want to start quoting trinity doctrine they cannot prove from the scriptures, explain or kowaciate. 2 Likes |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by madjnr: 8:29pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Confused Christians |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by malvisguy212: 9:48pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Philippians 2:6-8 being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but MADE HIMSELF OF NO REPUTATION [HE “EMPTIED HIMSELF”], taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man,HE HUMBLE HIMSELF and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross While on Earth in the FLESH, Jesus Submit Himself VOLUNTARILY to the will of his father. not a simple concept to grasp. When Jesus came to Earth,He added humanity to His divinity, He was made “in the likeness of men” (Philippians 2:7). He moved from the spiritual realm to put on flesh (John 1:14) and became subject to such things as hunger, thirst, weariness, and pain. Satan knows all this that why He take advantage of the HUMAN nature of Jesus but he fail , satan wanted to repeat what he did to the first adam . Adam and eve wanted to size equality with God through the help of satan.but Jesus in the flesh humble Himself as a servant. It was the human nature of Jesus satan tempt and not the DIVINE nature. 2 Corinthians 5:21 Indeed, He “who knew no sin” became “sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him” 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by madjnr: 9:54pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
when God came down to earth... Who was in charge |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by trapQ: 10:23pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
There's something called "trinity". When JESUS (GOD the SON) came down to earth, GOD the FARTHER was in charge. madjnr: 2 Likes |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by trapQ: 10:26pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
JESUS is GOD the son. And while on earth, he was GOD in human form. Read john 1 vfactor: 2 Likes |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by Nobody: 11:54pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Can anyone prove Professor Xavier isn't part of the trinity? I have proof. |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by Nobody: 6:38am On Oct 23, 2015 |
trapQ: Please define the trinity doctrine, and we can start from there. |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by cold(m): 8:41am On Oct 23, 2015 |
Yeah,yeah but according to the bible,the devil was able to tempt god to put job to the test. Just to prove if job was a faithful servant because of his wealth or love for god. Job 1:6-12 Then the Lord said to Satan, ‘Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.’ “ ‘Does Job fear God for nothing?’ Satan replied. ‘Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.’ The Lord said to Satan, ‘Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger'' Maybe this wasn't the devil tempting god. Maybe it was just a bet,maybe i'm just reading the bible literally,maybe i need spiritual understanding,maybe a carnal mind can never understand matters of the spirit,maybe...huh anyways what do i know? |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:09pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
pass111: What is the source for this material? |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:12pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
trapQ: Good job. 1 Like |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:13pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
vfactor: What do you mean by the SON of God? When we say Jesus is the Son of God what does that mean? |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:15pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
madjnr: Since you are not confused do you care to help us out? |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:18pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Is it sinful to be tempted? |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by trapQ: 12:21pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Thanks OLAADEGBU: |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:31pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
madjnr: Get your clue from the Bible. Pay attention to verse 17. "And Jesus, when He was baptised, went up straightway out of the water. and, lo, the heavens were opened to Him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. And lo a voice from heaven, saying,, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" (Matthew 3:16-17). 2 Likes |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:47pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
sonOfLucifer: Is that the Professor who taught you what to think?
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Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:49pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
vfactor: It is simple. It is like 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. Father x Son x Holy Spirit = God. Simples. 2 Likes |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:50pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
trapQ: You are welcome, anytime. |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by Nobody: 1:22pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: That would imply that anything u do to one, u do to the other. If u kill the son, u automatically kill the father right? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by Nobody: 1:24pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: It's simply means he is his father's son. His father's creation! (Colossians 1:15) 1 Like |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:56pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
cold: Ask and ye shall receive. |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:59pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
vfactor: Not necessarily. |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:05pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
vfactor: Let's see what that verse says: "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature" (Colossians 1:15). In short Jesus is God's "Selfie".
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Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by cold(m): 7:57pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:So was that temptation or not? Funny not only was god tempted,he took the bait and put job through some of the most tortuous,cruel and inhumane treatment known to man just to win a bet. Smh,some god you have. |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by Nobody: 12:03am On Oct 24, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: I am more interested in the bolded. Implying that Jesus is a creature, but the first one to be created. Also ever had of someone being his fathers "carbon copy"? Does it imply that they are the same person? |
Re: "God Cannot Be Tempted. Jesus Was Tempted. Therefore, Jesus Cannot Be God". How? by Nobody: 12:04am On Oct 24, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Please if 1x1x1=1, then 1x0x1=0, isn't it? 1 Like |
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