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all4naija:
. I don't believe in fairy tales. Jeez!

oooookkkkk!!!!!

PunkyVeer:
Wow, that's cool. Scorpio rising people are usually very hot

But anyway, concerning libra, I just don't trust the sign. Period. The one I was with also had a scorpio moon & scorpio venus but even that didn't curb the negative libra traits. It's a no no sign for me.

So when are you finishing the rest of the signs?

Yeah, scorpio rising people are extremely hot,infact hotter than scorpio natives...
So,what are the libra negative traits you dislike?

all4naija:
I think Astrology is a joke and it is used by con artists to deceive people!

Ok,your opinion#

Astrology101:
Yeah, scorpio rising people are extremely hot,infact hotter than scorpio natives...
So,what are the libra negative traits you dislike?

Libra, just like Aquarius, talk a lot & flirt quite a lot too. The difference imo, Aquarius can be loyal, while I don't trust Libra not to cross the line & cheat. They're known cheats after all. I just dislike flirtatious people even though I'm flirtatious myself (sounds hypocritical I know), maybe because I can trust myself & know that I will never cross the line, while it's very hard to trust if someone else have the same self-restraint as myself. So yeah, the flirting is an issue I have with them. I don't trust they won't take the flirting to the next level & cheat. Lastly, they lie, keep in touch with exs & are just not manly enough for me. I like a MAN, not someone I can easily tell to go jump off a cliff. Aquarius women have very strong personalities & imo, require men they can't easily emasculate. A tough cookie of a man. Libra are just too weak imo to be with an Aquarius woman. We end up being the man in that relationship. That's how it stops being fun. Other Aquarius females on astrology forums complain of the same things, btw.

PunkyVeer:


Libra, just like Aquarius, talk a lot & flirt quite a lot too. The difference imo, Aquarius can be loyal, while I don't trust Libra not to cross the line & cheat. They're known cheats after all. I just dislike flirtatious people even though I'm flirtatious myself (sounds hypocritical I know), maybe because I can trust myself & know that I will never cross the line, while it's very hard to trust if someone else have the same self-restraint as myself. So yeah, the flirting is an issue I have with them. I don't trust they won't take the flirting to the next level & cheat. Lastly, they lie, keep in touch with exs & are just not manly enough for me. I like a MAN, not someone I can easily tell to go jump off a cliff. Aquarius women have very strong personalities & imo, require men they can't easily emasculate. A tough cookie of a man. Libra are just too weak imo to be with an Aquarius woman. We end up being the man in that relationship. That's how it stops being fun. Other Aquarius females on astrology forums complain of the same things, btw.

Scorpio rising and Scorpio native, what's the difference?

Candyrain:
Scorpio rising and Scorpio native, what's the difference?

The rising sign is said to be how you come across to other people at 1st glance, your appearance. Scorpio rising look sexy. Scorpio is a sexy sign after all. But most scorpio planets do give people sexiness in general.

PunkyVeer:
The rising sign is said to be how you come across to other people at 1st glance, your appearance. Scorpio rising look sexy. Scorpio is a sexy sign after all. But most scorpio planets do give people sexiness in general.

When you say sexiness, can you expatiate further on what you mean?

Candyrain:
When you say sexiness, can you expatiate further on what you mean?

Bangable

PunkyVeer:
Bangable

Pls can you break it down further? I just checked my dictionary and didn't see that word.

Candyrain:
Pls can you break it down further? I just checked my dictionary and didn't see that word.

LMFAO. Shut up, Can!

PunkyVeer:
LMFAO. Shut up, Can!

Hahahahahaha... Punky you know I'm a good student and I ask questions so I can better understand what I'm being taught. Isn't that what you would want a student to do?

Candyrain:
Hahahahahaha... Punky you know I'm a good student and I ask questions so I can better understand what I'm being taught. Isn't that what you would want a student to do?

Hihihi. Whatever. Bangable is all I'm saying. Not another vowel extra from me on this topic Do your research, that's what good students do. Can't expect the teacher to spoonfeed you all the info now.

Ding. Ding. Ding. Class over

PunkyVeer:
Hihihi. Whatever. Bangable is all I'm saying. Not another vowel extra from me on this topic Do your research, that's what good students do. Can't expect the teacher to spoonfeed you all the info now.

Ding. Ding. Ding. Class over

Hahahahahaha... Yes ma

all4naija:
I think Astrology is a joke and it is used by con artists to deceive people!

This is a very understandable position.

Astrology101:
Really? You think so? It is all your opinion though or how could you say astrology isn't wild...You think by reading astrology online or by checking astrological guides,you know everything about astrology...tell me another story pls...or
perhaps you think western astrology is everything,lol...then I might be laughing at you...

Actually I don't think you learn astrology by checking guides and reading it online. Far from it. And I certainly don't think that I know everything about astrology. Apparently you dislike being contradicted. I'm not here to start a fight but I thought you were purely interested in astrology and that's why you opened this thread. I'm here to discuss astrology with you, if all you have to offer is disdain and resistance and 'laughing' at me then I'll happily leave you to what you believe.

You think everything you read online are comprehensive? There are so many astrological books I could recommend this to you if you are interested;

Interpretation Handbook:
Guidelines for Understanding the Essentials of the Birth Chart by Stephen Arroyo
Or
The Secret Language of Birthdays by Gary Goldschneider, Joost Elffers[\b]
When you are done reading,you can come back and tell me astrology isn't wild...



Before the age of telescopes, the night sky
was thought to consist of two very similar
components: fixed stars, which remained
motionless in relation to each other, and
"wandering stars" which moved relative to the fixed
stars over the course of the year.
To the Greeks and the other earliest astronomers,
this group comprised the five planets visible to the
naked eye, and excluded the Earth. Although strictly
the term "planet" applied only to those five objects,
the term was latterly broadened, particularly in the
Middle Ages, to include the [b]Sun(Sol) and the Moon(Luna)
(sometimes referred to as "Lights", making a
total of seven planets. Astrologers retain this
definition today.
To ancient astrologers, the planets represented the
will of the gods and their direct influence upon
human affairs. To modern astrologers the planets
represent basic drives or urges in the unconscious,
or energy flow regulators representing
dimensions of experience. - Wikipedia

Again, I did not learn astrology online, and neither did I learn it from any books. I learnt it the proper way. And in the proper way Wikipedia is NO authority to be referred to. Nothing wrong with Wikipedia, it's a good start for many subjects but it is not authoritative. In fact what you quoted from wikipedia there is just plain wrong.

I repeat that Planet means wanderer.

planet (n.)
late Old English planete, from Old French planete (Modern French planète), from Late Latin planeta, from Greek planetes, from (asteres) planetai "wandering (stars)," from planasthai "to wander," of unknown origin, possibly from PIE *pele- (2) "flat, to spread" on notion of "spread out." So called because they have apparent motion, unlike the "fixed" stars. Originally including also the moon and sun; modern scientific sense of "world that orbits a star" is from 1630s.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=planet

The word planet means a wanderer. Any heavenly body that does not maintain a fixed position is a planet including Sol and Luna. This is the original use of the term. It was later that astronomers used planet to refer to a body that orbits a star. This is not the astrological understanding of planet but the later astronomical use of the term which started around 1630.

In astrology Earth is not a planet. In astronomy Earth is a planet
In astrology the Sun is a planet. In astronomy the Sun is not a planet.

This difference is because the meaning of the word planet is different in both discipline.

When your wiki quotation says that the Sun and Moon were only considered planets later in the middle ages that is just plain wrong.

Your wiki quote is half right when it says:

To modern astrologers the planets
represent basic drives or urges in the unconscious,

They represent our basic drives and urges, yes. These drives and urges encompass all of the mind, both unconscious and conscious so it is wrong to just limit it to the unconscious.

Like I said before, the Sun determines how we present ourselves to society. It also seeks to control it's environment. The Sun rules Leo and Leo is the purest expression of the Sun. Sol has little to do with sexuality.

Mars will tell us more about a persons sexuality. There is much talk here about Scorpios being very sexy. Scorpio is a sign ruled by Mars. Someone with Sun in Scorpio will have a very sexual nature. Why? Because Scorpio, a very sexual sign, had a great bearing on how they present themselves to society. The sign a planet is in will colour the planet and either allow it to function purely or inhibit it's functioning.

But even when someone has Sun in Scorpio you cannot jump to a conclusion about their sexuality until you've had a closer look at what Mars is doing in the chart. If Mars is in a position that is debilitating for Mars then the sexual nature would still be subdued.

Anyway the long and short of all I'm saying is that you cannot make statements about someones sexuality or attitude to Love, or business just from Looking at the Sun sign. That's all I wanted to say.

Astrology101:
You are mixing it up,sir... You are not getting it. Astrology is a wild subject so you have to keep on learning more,so I'm gonna expatriate a little. Let start from here; what does a planet means in astrology and what is its usefulness? You might be thinking that what is a planet? Does it has any usefulness at all? Well,the truth is that without planets,there would be nothing like sun signs and probably astrology. So what is a planet and what is its usefulness? A planet in astrological terms is the one that influences the characteristics of a sun sign. We have 9 major planets namely Jupiter,Mars,Earth,Mercury,Venus,Pluto,Neptune,Uranus,Saturn. Each planet is attached to a sign or two. Like I said earlier, a planet influences it sign with its characteristics. For example, Mars is a red hot planet with an aggressive,action-driven,sexual characteristics and it rules Aries sign and partially scorpio sign and that explains why Aries natives are action-driven,aggressive and sexually active due to mars characteristics. Uranus characteristics includes instability,unpredictability,innovations of new ideas and it rules the Aquarius sign and that explains why Aquarians are unstable and unprediactable and they are the innovators of the zodiac sign. Every sign is influenced only by its ruling planets except once in a while when one or more planets enters or orbits into the sign. So back to your post, because mars is considered a sexual planet doesn't mean it determines the sexual behaviour of the other signs. So sir,like I said earlier, Astrology is a very wild subject,we have to keep on learning it, so I would be glad if you further check other astrological guides to confirm what I said. I repeat,Mars doesn't determine the sexual behaviour of sun signs,it can only determine the sexual behaviour of its ruling signs which are Aries and Scorpio. Hope you get it now?

Reading the bolded part of your post above, I can see where you're confused. You're a bit confused as to what a sun sign is.

There are 12 signs of the zodiac. Each of these signs are ruled by one planet or the other. For instance Leo is ruled by the Sun.

Now the Sun itself passes from one sign of the zodiac to the other, taking a year to pass through all of them. In other words it spends about a month in each sign. If you are born while the Sun is passing through Aries then it is said that your Sun sign is aries. Aries itself is not a sun sign. It is just a sign in the zodiac that happens to be ruled by Mars. Only when the Sun is in Aries for a native do we say that Aries is his sun sign.

If the Moon, another planet, happens to be transiting Aries when you are born then we say that Aries is your moon sign. Mars still rules Aries but it can be some people's moon sign.

If Mercury is transiting Aries when you are born then Aries is your mercury sign. If it is transiting Cancer then we say your mercury sign is Cancer.

We also have a Mars sign. Where Mars happens to be transiting when you're born is your mars sign.
So if a person has a Sun sign of Aries, you might hastily say that the person is very sexual. However you'd be wrong if Mars was in a sign that did not allow it to express it's sexiness easily. If Mars was in Virgo (mars sign virgo) for example or aquarius (mars sign aquarius) then a subject might not be so sexually driven even though his Sun sign is Aries. Mars the ruler of Aries is subdued to the Sun does not get much of it's attributes though it is in Aries.

The Sun does not confer Sexual nature to a subject, it is Mars that does so, however if the Sun is in a sign ruled by Mars, or aspected to Mars, then it can receive some of those sexual attributes due to the influence from Mars.

Astrology101:
Scorpio - Scorpion- October 23 - November 21

Facts

Modality:
Fixed
Element:
Water
Ruler:
Pluto,
Mars
Season:
Fall
8th Sign
of Zodiac
Metal: Steel, Iron
Stone: Topaz,
Opal
Color: Gold,
Purple
Anatomy: Genital
organs, bladder,
bowels
Symbol - Scorpion/Eagle

Scorpio Strength Keywords:
- Loyal
- Passionate
- Resourceful
- Observant
- Dynamic

Scorpio Weakness Keywords:

- Jealous
- Obsessive
- Suspicious
- Manipulative
- Unyielding
Scorpio and Independence:
Scorpios are fiercely independent. They are able to
accomplish anything they put their mind to and they
won't give up. They are perfectly suited to being on
their own. They are not social butterflies like some
other zodiac signs and some actually prefer to live on
their own that way there is never any issue of who
controls what at home, they like to be in control.

Scorpio and Friendship:

Relationships with Scorpio are always complicated,
just like the person, their relationships are a series of
extremes, they can even be downright moody for no
apparent reason. Scorpios are known for their
possessiveness and jealousy but on the other hand,
they are extremely loyal. Scorpios have an excellent
memory and combined with an inability to let things
go, they can hold a grudge against someone who did
them harm forever, in fact a Scorpio rarely if never
forgives and forgets. They will even go as far as get
vengeance on the person. On the other hand, they
will always remember a kind gesture forever and
repay it. Any kind selfless gesture done to a Scorpio
will gain trust and respect which is extremely
important to them in any relationship, either
romantic or not. The best advice is to be honest with
a Scorpio friend and in return, you will gain an
amazing friend you will never forget and who will be
loyal to you and never make false promises. Their
truthful and shocking sense of humor if different
than that of any other zodiac sign and the Scorpio
makes an amazing, powerful interesting friend that
can be trusted.

Scorpio and Business:

Scorpios make excellent doctors, surgeons, scientists
and leaders, they are perfectly suited to any form of
business that makes a difference in the world, greatly
impacts people and society and a most importantly,
Scorpio has to be in a power position, this is why
these careers are suited to the Scorpio, they all
demand one person in supreme control giving
orders and leading a unit of people/practices. In
business, Scorpios tend to easily gather wealth, they
make very wise business decisions and they are very
conservative about spending their money. Scorpios
are known for making money and hiding it, they will
not announce it due to to fear that others will take
the same route and becoming a possible competitor,
or worse try to use the Scorpio to their advantage to
use them for their money.

Scorpio and Temperament:

Scorpios are extremely ambitious, persistent and
determined which is shown through a power hungry,
controlling attitude. Not in a stubborn sense
however, because a Scorpio will work for what they
want and control will justified reasons. This is
obvious to any onlooker. A Scorpio never gives up,
they are so determined to reach their goal. The key to
this success is their flexibility. They are able to re-
survey a situation and take a different approach if
necessary. This makes them very adaptable and
versatile. Scorpios are fierce competitors, combined
with their powers of observation and their excellent
memory, they will recall facts and when necessary,
bring them to the table at the time of need. They will
win justly, with proper facts and arguments to
support their thoughts and opinions. Scorpios are
excellent at restoring order to a chaotic situation and
they are just as capable of manipulating for their own
greed and benefit. The un-evolved Scorpio is a very
dangerous person because they use their powers to
benefit only them and step on other people in order
to satisfy their own greed.

Scorpio Deep Inside:

Scorpio is the most misunderstood of all astrology
signs. They are all about intensity and contradictions.
They like to be aware of a situation and always know
what's going on, figuring this out with their probing
mind, on the other hand, they are interested in the
occult, the paranormal, conspiracy theories and
other types of similar unknown mysteries. They are
very capable of hiding their true feelings and
motivations, they often have ulterior motives or a
hidden agenda.
Scorpios are all about control, they need to be in
control at all times. To be out of control is very
threatening, even dangerous to the Scorpio's psyche,
when they control, they feel safe.
Scorpios are very emotional, their emotions are
intensified, both good emotions and bad. Negative
emotions of jealousy and resentment are hallmarks
of this turbulent astrology sign. On the other side,
Scorpios are well known for their forceful and
powerful drive to succeed and their amazing
dedication. Scorpios are constantly trying to
understand their emotions through finding a deeper
purpose in life.
Scorpios are very intuitive, but not as in a psychic
sense, more as intuitive into the human mind, they
have a great understanding of the mystery and the
power of the human mind.
Scorpios have a fear of failure which they keep
hidden extremely well, should their confrontation not
be successful, or their career fail, they will simply use
their adaptive skill to quickly move and and leave the
bad experience behind. Do not ever expect them to
fess up or share their tale with anyone however
because this shows signs of weakness and Scorpio
always wins, they are always the self-proclaimed
best! One of the reasons they seem like they always
accomplish their goals is because they set tangible
short-term goals that they know they can accomplish,
they know what they are capable of and this is what
they go for.
Scorpios are very weary about trusting anyone, a
person needs to gain their trust and this gets built up
over time and once all the 'trust tests' have been
passed, Scorpio loves deeply and intensely.
Underneath the cool exterior, energies and emotions
are constantly flowing but the Scorpio deals with this
be channeling this into useful activities, hobbies,
relationships or a career. This is never apparent to
the outside observer but knowing this fact explains
why Scorpios are so passionate about whatever it is
that they are undertaking. Scorpios have powerful
instincts and they trust their own gut feeling which is
another reason why a Scorpio seldom fails.
The ongoing lesson in life for those born under the
Scorpio zodiac signs, is to channel their powerful
energy into positive goals and not succumbing to the
darker forces in life such as manipulation and greed,
they will then have great success in their life and
have a clean, happy conscience and a circle of friends
they can trust and hold dear to them.

Scorpio in a Nutshell:

Scorpio is the astrology sign of extremes and
intensity. Scorpios are very deep, intense people,
there is always more then meets the eye. They
present a cool, detached and unemotional air to the
world yet lying underneath is tremendous power,
extreme strength, intense passion and a strong will
and a persistent drive. Scorpios have a very
penetrative mind, do not be surprised if they ask
questions, they are trying to delve deeper and figure
things out and survey the situation. They always want
to know why, where and any other possible detail
they can possibly know. Scorpio's are very weary of
the games that other people try to play and they are
very aware of it. Scorpios tend to dominate and
control anyone that lets them, or anyone that they
find weak. The person that a Scorpio respects and
holds close to them is treated with amazing kindness,
loyalty and generosity. On the outside, a Scorpio has
great secretiveness and mystery. This magnetically
draws people to them. They are known to be
controlling and too ambitious but only because they
need control for this makes them feel safe.

What it's Like to Date a Scorpio Woman:

Scorpio woman is very emotional, very demanding
and very demonstrative. She is full of flair and
intrigue, a fascinating woman that the strong A-type
personality male will adore, for she presents the
right amount of challenge with the right amount of
rewards. The Scorpio woman is the ultimate
seductive, flirtatious woman. She won't give a man
her heart very easily because she is weary of trusting
another person. The man will have to go through a
series of 'mental testes' in order for the relationship
to get solid and close. She may not show it, but she
wants a close committed relationship. Ion order for
this, the man has to be trusted, has to be affectionate
and never try to control her. She is very possessive
but the Scorpio woman is so full of mystery,
sensuality and passion that most men do not mind
being possessed by her.

What it's Like to Date a Scorpio Man:

The Scorpio male is unlike any other man of any other
astrology sign. He is so unique that a seperate
thread is needed to explain about dating the Scorpio
man. Unlike most other zodiac signs, what it's like to
date a Scorpio woman is very similar to dating a
Scorpio man. The main difference is that instead of
presenting a powerful feminine force like the woman,
the Scorpio man presents a strong masculine, sexual
force. The Scorpio man is easy to seduce and take
home for the night, it is much harder to form a real
relationship with him. The Scorpio man is very
sensitive and feels lonely and unfulfilled, but he will
never let a woman know this. Behind closed doors,
be sensitive and affectionate to him appeal to his
emotions only if you want a close relationship with
him do not attempt to lead him on because he will
see this and never forgive you. Toying with a Scorpio
male is an unwise move. He will be jealous and
possessive and will never allow a woman to control
him. Let him take the lead because the Scorpio male
is truly a fascinating person, you can never go wrong
when he is planning the night! Scorpio men are very
moody and their moods change like a pendulum on a
clock. Stand by his side in these times and it will pass.
Do not nag on him for he has a hard enough time
understanding his own emotions. Scorpio men make
excellent protectors and you will always feel safe
under his radiating, passionate and energetic power.

How to Attract Scorpio:

Never be fake with a Scorpio, they can see it a mile
away. Be genuine with your comments and listen to
them attentively, (they always have something
interesting to say so this is never a problem!) Do not
try to hide things from them or tease them, they
always have to know what is going on. Remember,
they are the only ones that are allowed to tease and
present the mystery and intrigue! They like frankness
and honesty, speak your mind they will respect that.
Scorpios are interested in almost all activities, so
finding something to do should never be a problem.
They are unpredictable and could change course of
the date mid-way though so take these last minute
changes with a smile and try something different.
They like people who are not afraid to ditch a plan
and try another. In conversation, do not tell them
that their opinions are wrong or shoot them down,
they are too proud for this and even if it is a joke,
they might not take it with the humor that you meant.
Never try to control them but do not be the damsel in
distress either, they like strong, real people with
driving ambitious personality like theirs.

Scorpio Erogenous Zone:

The genitals are everybody's erogenous zone but
since the Scorpio is the most sexually charged of all
zodiac signs, the genitals are extremely sensitive and
will ignite a passionate fire that cannot be
extinguished. Stroke and caress these areas lightly.
There is no wrong way to stimulate this area, but be
gentle.

Sex With Scorpio:

Sex with Scorpio is a total emotional and physical
experience with passion and intensity. They have
amazing stamina and can last all night long, round
after round. Scorpio is the zodiac sign that is the
most likely to act out a sexual fantasy. Most people
will talk about it but the Scorpio will do it, they will
fully throw themselves into the role. Do not suggest a
fantasy to a Scorpio unless you plan to do it! Most
Scorpios are direct and forceful and they seem to be
an expert at what they do. They continue to seduce
you even as the act continues. A thrilling experience
not for the faint of heart!

I wish I knew this.

pulsa:
I wish I knew this.

What?

Astrology101:
What?

How manipulating, unforgiving, secretive and sadly lovable a Scorpio women can be. I just had a first hand experience of this. I still love her and still wish things could end up in a better outcome. (courtesy of being a libra I guess) but I don’t think that is really possible again now had I know all these earlier I will have understood her more and gone about things in a different better way.

pulsa:
How manipulating, unforgiving, secretive and sadly lovable a Scorpio women can be. I just had a first hand experience of this. I still love her and still wish things could end up in a better outcome. (courtesy of being a libra I guess) but I don’t think that is really possible again now had I know all these earlier I will have understood her more and gone about things in a different better way.

Sorry about how things went between you.

Do you mind to share what happened ?

Astrology101:
Sorry about how things went between you.

Do you mind to share what happened ?

Maybe some other time, not in the mood for reminiscing currently.

pulsa:
Maybe some other time, not in the mood for reminiscing currently.

Okay sir