ArodeTsolaye:
Truckpusher and Tonyebarcanista, tell us without mincing words what do you really want from Igbo-Biafrans after, you've been lied to 40 years that the Igbo man is your problem and not the Feudal fulani-hausa and the sycophantic yorubas who see you as minorities who shouldn't determine your fate but only good to exploited like Mai deribes and akakijas whose lands are 1000 km far from your environmental challenges in the East (or SS as the fulani wants you to answer).

Tell us, all options are on the table apart from going back to liegeria.

My friend all through my arguments as it concerns this particular issue I have made my positions known without fear or favor to anyone who might have felt hurt by my utterances and I do not regret anything that I have said before because they were a true reflection of how I felt, still feel and would react the same way if the same condition arises again - Do yourself a favor , go through my posts and read them thoroughly and you will see for yourself where I have unequivocally stated my mind without mincing words and last time I checked there was no commission of inquiry that was set up for me to come and defend my utterances about what I personally perceived as an Igbo hidden agenda ,lies,hatred, conspiracy,aggression,insult and a sugar coated love for the people of the Niger Delta but you can convince me and make me change my position even as your actions so far has really unmasked who you are and what you truly have in mind for our people.

Read my comments again , they no longer jail people for reading.
Thank you

ikechu1278:


The people that protested in River state were predominantly river state indigenous and proven so when the names of the arrested were released so what are you talking about? Or are you trying to imply the indigenous Igbo from river state shouldn't protest in their own town anymore nor speak up because you don't agree with their ideology?

Cc Truckpusher
The same question to you

I'm still waiting for an answer on this question

ikechu1278:


I'm still waiting for an answer on this question

The people that protested in Port Harcourt were Igbo touts and jobless boys that were brought from the east and mixed with the ones that are already resident in the different part of the state and I know this because it took them almost three working days for them to organize a protest after Kanu's arrest and I can also tell you that this nonsense and insult will not be tolerated anymore.

We have coexisted peacefully for centuries and we have always welcomed you with an open arm even as the same gesture can never be extended to us in your homeland,please for the sake of the peaceful coexistence and economic benefits we enjoy from each other, kindly call your youths to order because what they did was totally unacceptable under any circumstances and next time it won't be funny.....at all.

atbu1983:


If you give Igbo man an inch, he will take 10 metres. Among all commentators on Nairaland, d igbos on nairaland are so pain by ur position on Biafra because they cant call you a yoruba man.

They expected every pro GEJ in south south to be pro Biafra. That is what the IPOB noise is base upon to deceive many south south people to follow them to Slaughter house. No deep thinking south south perso will agree to Biafra.

What they fail to understand is that i may be pro APC south south person today while you may be Pro PDP south south person today. We may not agree on political issues. But on the issues of our ethnic nationalities we dont give a damn about PDP or APC. That is where they got it wrong.

The BIafra Igbo want is d Biafra were they can completely remove south south people from history. In d Biafra they want, Igbo alone will be more than 60% of the population. With that they can have thier way. Impose igbo language on every school and claim is for national unity. In less than 50years we will all loose our identity.

Even as at today, they dont recognise or respect many ethnic group in south south. As far as they are concern Ikwerre, Opopo, ika etc are igbo. They dont care what these people think.

Hey, STOP crossing peoples boundries in search of what will favour you and that your hungry tribe. You are not from rivers state neither are you from any state in niger delta so, what is your problem with biafra? Do you think you can stop what is to come by mere posting countless of useless threads on NL? I always laugh in swahili whenever I came across your posts.

atbu1983:



You are a lier. U are not from rivers state

lol... see Edo man way dáe talk.

ikechu1278:


The people that protested in River state were predominantly river state indigenous and proven so when the names of the arrested were released so what are you talking about? Or are you trying to imply the indigenous Igbo from river state shouldn't protest in their own town anymore nor speak up because you don't agree with their ideology?

Cc Truckpusher
The same question to you

I neither disputed nor agreed by the claim that some IPOB youths arrested were indigens of Rivers state. I won't comment on that.

My position on this subject is very clear and wouldn't want to drag it. It is not about PDP or APC but about outhe South-South people. If the Igbos want a united SSSE front(which is very good), then we must define terms of agreement. Some of the terms are;

1. They stop calling PHC as 'Igweocha' because the status of Portharcourt as the exclusive property of Rivers people as presently constituted is non-negotiable.

2. Respect for our Greats like Isaac Adaka Boro, Ken Saro Wiwa and every other Niger Deltan Heroes. Also respect for our fathers and stop calling us 'Traitors' because I can't remember any treachery. The respect must also be to our present generation that have been bearing pains to swallow pills they never bargained for.

3. Respect for the decision of South South people as a whole and as individuals on this subject irrespective of their/our/my position. Irrespective of whether they agree with some of your position or not.

These to me are very fundamental to real unity. We don't have to fight each other.

ekenedegreat:
Hey, STOP crossing peoples boundries in search of what will favour you and that your hungry tribe. You are not from rivers state neither are you from any state in niger delta so, what is your problem with biafra? Do you think you can stop what is to come by mere posting countless of useless threads on NL? I always laugh in swahili whenever I came across your posts.

d guy is too ignorant, that is how greedy an average edo person is, I dont want Biafra but the Biafrans has made it clear that the only part of the Southsouth they want are tge igbo areas who wants to go with them and those of like minds, but the Edo people knowing hw well they hv been rejected in it, even if they like let even kryptonite be in Benin nobody wants them, thats y to show of there frustration they change to the guise of using Niger delta or Southsouth as an umbrella to pour out there frustrations, mark it anywhere Nigeria cannot and will never break, even if it does Ikwerre people that I know would never form a country where the ijaws would be majority after what they did to them in the old rivers state b4 the creation of Bayelsa, the Ikwerres are satisfied with the Rivers state they have they need nothing more, the Ogonis have been agitating for there own country of state, they hv made it clear that if Nigeria breaks they would go on there own MOSOP is a witness to that, the Oron people of Akwa ibom has made there own call to be independent if the country breaks, the only people interested in this Niger delta republic is Edo people, thats why if u watch anybody shouting "IT'S NIGER DELTA REPUBLIC WE WANT OR SOUTHSOUTH REPUBLIC" check well he is from Edo state all the Ijaws want is resource control, no ijaw man wants any Republic whether Biafra or Niger delta.

Smilelo:
I don't blame the writer of this post,

If you want One Nigeria, come out and protest for one Nigeria.
I bet you, una no go reach 10.

Mumu people.

Lol

u want Niger delta republic go take am now,
my igbo people has been suffering because they have developed minority mentality, how many times has the northerners been seen dragging if they are landlocked or not with anybody or have u seen them dragging if they have oil or not with anybody, you guys should stop looking at the faces of all this Ijaw people or there likes the oil na all of us get am anyday they talk pass there mouth we act like the northerners and there allies in the west we cut them down to size, they would scream Ataka boro was stopped by an igbo man, this that are they not even happy he was stopped by someone who considered them as brothers, look at Obj a yoruba when the Niger delta was in crisis over resource control look at how he cleared Odi with boldness, they wont remember that one but they would shout Aguiyi Ironsi stopped Ataka till they Kingdom comes who knows if maybe it was a northerner that was on seat when they started there nonsense by now Oloibiri people would have become extinct just as Odi people, lool at even ken saro wiwa and d rest of his ogoni people that was killed by a northerner in a gruesome manner because they cant face them they would pour out there aggression on igbo.
Igbos stop looking at this people's face if them f*ck up, treat the fu*ck up. Even if they like let them make noise from now till next year nothing would stop that oil from flowing to Nigerians pocket. fullstop.

Truckpusher:
The people that protested in Port Harcourt were Igbo touts and jobless boys that were brought from the east and mixed with the ones that are already resident in the different part of the state and I know this because it took them almost three working days for them to organize a protest after Kanu's arrest and I can also tell you that this nonsense and insult will not be tolerated anymore.

We have coexisted peacefully for centuries and we have always welcomed you with an open arm even as the same gesture can never be extended to us in your homeland,please for the sake of the peaceful coexistence and economic benefits we enjoy from each other, kindly call your youths to order because what they did was totally unacceptable under any circumstances and next time it won't be funny.....at all.

Why did I know your reply is going to be filled with more lies.

The names of those protested and arrested were released by the government of river state. The name on that list consisted of predominately etche, few ikwerre few SE, two kalabari and two ibibio. Are you now trying to tell us the names released by the river state government is false and you and you alone knows who protested..is that it? Nigg@ move. If you need the list of the names to cure yourself of your ignorance I'll be MORE THAN happy to oblige.

Now I'll repeat my question.... Who are you to tell etche and co not to protest in their land because you disagree with their ideology. Whether you like it or not, there are Igbo indigenous group in River state and they have every right to practice wtf they want in their hometown. Just cause your opinion differs from them does not mean you have the right to lord yourself over them and decide to be their spokesperson.

I'll repeat my question yet again: are you trying to imply the indigenous Igbo from river state shouldn't protest in their own town anymore nor speak up because you don't agree with their ideology?

ikechu1278:


Why did I know your reply is going to be filled with more lies.

The names of those protested and arrested were released by the government of river state. The name on that list consisted of predominately etche, few ikwerre few SE, two kalabari and two ibibio. Are you now trying to tell us the names released by the river state government is false and you and you alone knows who protested..is that it? Nigg@ move. If you need the list of the names to cure yourself of your ignorance I'll be MORE THAN happy to oblige.

Now I'll repeat my question.... Who are you to tell etche and co not to protest in their land because you disagree with their ideology. Whether you like it or not, there are Igbo indigenous group in River state and they have every right to practice wtf they want in their hometown. Just cause your opinion differs from them does not mean you have the right to lord yourself over them and decide to be their spokesperson.

I'll repeat my question yet again: are you trying to imply the indigenous Igbo from river state shouldn't protest in their own town anymore nor speak up because you don't agree with their ideology? 

Continue to believe in your own lies ,you'll surely drown in them.

It has happened before and it will happen again - Mark my words.

Truckpusher:
Continue to believe in your own lies ,you'll surely drown in them.

It has happened before and it will happen again - Mark my words.

Keep deluding yourself. I'll repeat my statement, do you want the names of the arrested yes or no like i said I'll be more, emphasis on the word MORE THAN happy to oblige cause unlike you I have nothing to hide nor is it hidden. The names were spread few days ago by the media

Now my answer my question or shut up

ikechu1278:


Keep deluding yourself. I'll repeat my statement, do you want the names of the arrested yes or no like i said I'll be more, emphasis on the word MORE THAN happy to oblige cause unlike you I have nothing to hide nor is it hidden. The names were spread few days ago by the media

Now my answer my question or shut up

I think you should go home ,call your father out and tell the miserable old thing to shut the hell up.

Next time discuss with me in a civil manner but when you resort to insults - I have a degree.

TonyeBarcanista:

I neither disputed nor agreed by the claim that some IPOB youths arrested were indigens of Rivers state. I won't comment on that.

My position on this subject is very clear and wouldn't want to drag it. It is not about PDP or APC but about outhe South-South people. If the Igbos want a united SSSE front(which is very good), then we must define terms of agreement. Some of the terms are;

1. They stop calling PHC as 'Igweocha' because the status of Portharcourt as the exclusive property of Rivers people as presently constituted is non-negotiable.

2. Respect for our Greats like Isaac Adaka Boro, Ken Saro Wiwa and every other Niger Deltan Heroes. Also respect for our fathers and stop calling us 'Traitors' because I can't remember any treachery. The respect must also be to our present generation that have been bearing pains to swallow pills they never bargained for.

3. Respect for the decision of South South people as a whole and as individuals on this subject irrespective of their/our/my position. Irrespective of whether they agree with some of your position or not.

These to me are very fundamental to real unity. We don't have to fight each other.

1. Igweocha itself is the historical name all Igbo had for current day PH before European gave it the term PH. Even the current members of ohaneze from ikwerre such as obi wali, Issac wonwu, etc equally refers to PHC as igweocha. Nothing is stopping una from calling ph whatever names your ancestors called it prior to European invasion is there? Last I checked, are Igbo pointing gun in una head to follow us refer PH as igweocha? Are we?

2. I'm from SS, asaba precisely, and I don't see nor do I consider Ken Saro wiwa nor Issac Adaka boro as ND hero's. My hero is Chief Dennis Osadebay. Just because osadebay is a hero in anioma does that now translate him as ND hero? No. likewise the two mentioned. Ken wiwa and Issac boro are hero's to their own tribe and I highly highly doubt you expect any Igbo to show respect to two people who assisted in killing our people? It is like asking Igbo's to respect awolowo. The same way una have no respect for ojukwu despite he is a loved man in the Igbo community and we have no problem nor drilling down in ppls head to respect him is the same way you shouldn't drill down on igbo to respect those we believed hurt us. Simple!!! For the second part of your post, I really cannot speak on that part because in some occasion, SE have accused anioma of treachery before so I won't try to speak nor defend it.

3. I agree with you on that aspect. Likewise you should follow your owm advice. The same way I cannot speak for you or anyone else for that matter is likewise the same way you cannot speak for me, etche, etc. The reason SE people go on attack is first una attack them first. Secondly, twisting facts to present itself as they are channeling or forcing community to protest. Like for example: asking the protesters to protest in abuja when based on the names released from the arrest majority of the protesters in pH were etche and last I checked etche community is in river state. You have no right to tell them to leave the land of their ancestors to go protest somewhere just because you disagree with their own opinions. The same way they respect you enough not to force you to join them is the same way you should extend that same respect to them..
The reason I say this is because I was here and read individuals telling the asaba women that protested to leave asaba and go protest in anambra despite itself asaba is our ancestors land.
Respect is reciprocally... Don't swing if una don't want igbo swinging cause we'll swing back.

Truckpusher:
I think you should go home ,call your father out and tell the miserable old thing to shut the hell up.

Next time discuss with me in a civil manner but when you resort to insults - I have a degree.

I'll repeat Shut the f2k up you old disgraceful cow. Who cares if you have a degree, nigg@ I got one too.


I asked you a civil question without insults.you replied with hostility and lies. I replied with the same hostility you gave and calling you out on your outright lies...you replied back with more hostility..I proudly insulted you and yes I'm proud I insulted you and now you're acting like the victim...sit down if you have nothing better to say.

If you want a civil answer, don't swing because I'll give you back exactly wtf you give back

Since you have accepted your servitude don't drag igbos along......we are not slaves to anybody including ourselves. Go and read why indirect rule failed in the east! You said Yoruba voted for Bok0hari to spite igbos now the question is why are you fighting for one Nigeria with Igbos if you despise them?

MrPresident1:
Igbo greed destroyed the political solidarity of southern Nigeria.

With the benefit of hindsight, I have concluded that the 1966 coup was an Igbo coup even though I had initial reservations about this earlier. Nzeogwu may have had nationalistic intentions, but the likes of Anuforo, Ifeajuna, Okafor and perhaps even Ironsi were motivated by that Igbo innate propensity to want to lord it over others.

They repeated the same mistake with GEJ and that one was politically naïve and took the bait. He allowed himself to be controlled by neophytes in the political game, had GEJ aligned with the Yorubas early enough, he definitely would not have lost that election. Igbos used the poor man and destroyed his political legacy including that of the PDP.

Yoruba voted Buhari not because he gave any sound political arguments or enunciated any solid economic policies, they voted Buhari simply as a reaction to Igbo greed!

Yoruba will not be servants of the Igbo in the same country, let us all be slaves of the Fulani, after all, they are a capable people too!

kaka ki kiniun s'akapo ekun, kaluku a ya se ode ti e l'ototo ni.

ikechu1278:


I'll repeat Shut the f2k up you old disgraceful cow. Who cares if you have a degree, nigg@ I got one too.


I asked you a civil question without insults.you replied with hostility and lies. I replied with the same hostility you gave and calling you out on your outright lies...you replied back with more hostility..I proudly insulted you and yes I'm proud I insulted you and now you're acting like the victim...sit down if you have nothing better to say.

If you want a civil answer, don't swing because I'll give you back exactly wtf you give back

Olodo ,little wonder you couldn't even comprehend what I wrote before you started choking on your momma's cum - I said I have a degree when it comes to insulting numbnuts like you and put you where you rightly belong and not a school degree.

Make una buy glasses wear for una half past four eye ,una no gree oya nau borrow sense you still no gree ...you see ya life?

Abagworo:
Here are the names of those arrested
Benson Sunday - Ibibio
Emmanuel Ali - Ikwerre
Ukeme Monday - Ekpeye
Chibuzor Eechina -Igbo
Charles Eze - Etche
Egbo Okechukwu - Igbo
Chibona Ifion - Eleme
John Douglas - Kalabari
Ezenwa Alphonus - Etche
Wori Endurance - Ikwerre
Chinomere Nwolu - Ikwerre
Henry Eze - Etche
Friday Uzunwa - Igbo
Igbodo Abio - Etche
Akaniyene Uwem - Ibibio
Eni Iboro - Ibibio
Obinna Stephen -Igbo
Monday Ocha - Ikwerre
Obinna Ibekwe - Igbo
Kingsley Ezengorie - Igbo (Rivers)

cc Truckpusher,TonyeBarcanista

Biafra now will be structured to include Igbo speaking people of Nigeria. From Edo igbo, delta Igbo,Rivers Igbo to eastern igbos. If Ijaw come with us it will be for numerical strength afterwards they form their separate ijaw country just like Serbia and Montenegro but later Serbia one country and Montenegro another.We can live side by side as two countries with good relations.This way its a win-win. In carving out these countries we won't talk about states created by the Nigerian govt but areas where the ethnic groups reside. E.g the Igbo speaking part of river state will go with Biafra while the ijaw speaking part will go with ijaw nation. I am delta Igbo btw

Truckpusher:
When you trivialize the genuine fear and agitation of others it only exposes your inherent hypocrisy and it is getting clearer that all the shout of 'we are one' wasn't borne out of any genuine hunger for oneness but a charade and the highest level of deceit but trust me nobody will buy that dummy in this 21st century.

I've raised a valid point that would require any man with a sound sense of judgement who believes in any kind of genuine agenda to pause and ponder and speak wisely even in deceit but nay , all we've seen so far is the same repeated rhetoric of "We don't want your oil" , "we don't need you" , "Igbos are great people" "we are better than you" well , it's free for every man to feel important but don't you think that the same spirit of being more important than others based on a delusion of grandeur is also inherent in another man?

You know sometimes I laugh at the level of ignorance being exhibited by you folks - it goes a long way to show that you don't even know what you want at all.You're just talking and making noise simply due to the umbrella of democracy provided by a democratic Nigeria and be committing treasonable felony and walk scot free while calling others traitors all in the name of freedom of speech and expression......smh

You don't want to remain in Nigeria , which is your right but the question is why are you hell bent on coercing others into your Biafra? Isn't that one of the reasons why you're running away from Nigeria ? Why are you trying to do the same thing you've rejected being done unto you ?
Honestly , you guys would make better comedians.

My take is simple , we are not against you but please for the sake of tomorrow , kindly leave us out until you reach out to us with respect that we deserve then we might just consider. Is that one too much to ask for ? We've warned you , don't say we didn't make our position known.
Tell your kinsmen, this is 2015 and not 1967 where our parents were simply told to run because there is a war coming , how the war started they didn't know , who started the war they didn't know yet they died in their thousands both on the battle field and in their peaceful villages ,and their only benefit from the war was a total subjugation and degradation of their habitat yet you ungrateful scums call them traitors? Smh. You guys do have a problem.

DMerciful:
Biafra now will be structured to include Igbo speaking people of Nigeria. From Edo igbo, delta Igbo,Rivers Igbo to eastern igbos. If Ijaw come with us it will be for numerical strength afterwards they form their separate ijaw country just like Serbia and Montenegro but later Serbia one country and Montenegro another.We can live side by side as two countries with good relations.This way its a win-win. In carving out these countries we won't talk about states created by the Nigerian govt but areas where the ethnic groups reside. E.g the Igbo speaking part of river state will go with Biafra while the ijaw speaking part will go with ijaw nation. I am delta Igbo btw

And all these your phantom rivers,edo and delta Igbo you just mentioned have you bothered to ask them if they want Biafra?

ikechu1278:

I'll repeat Shut the f2k up you old disgraceful cow. Who cares if you have a degree, nigg@ I got one too.

I asked you a civil question without insults.you replied with hostility and lies. I replied with the same hostility you gave and calling you out on your outright lies...you replied back with more hostility..I proudly insulted you and yes I'm proud I insulted you and now you're acting like the victim...sit down if you have nothing better to say.

If you want a civil answer, don't swing because I'll give you back exactly wtf you give back

ikechu1278, kudos to you for the requisite response to that uncivil, pugnacious resply.

What I have discovered on this NL is that a number of Igbos have given our Eastern brothers too much regard in the name of brotherhood and yet the insults keep coming.

I've only found just a few of them that care to reciprocate Igbo's gesture. Some others would rather stand aloof and wait for opportunities to throw punches at Igbos.

When a supposed fellow claiming to be from the Eastern flank messes around and accuses Igbos of attempting to use Biafra as a guise for land grabbing or wanting to steal their crude oil and at the end of the day we may not find one of his taking the bold step of cautioning or denying the individual outrightly like you see the Igbos do on many occasions.

If you check my posts so far you'll discover that what I do most times is counter insults, lies and propagandas targeted at Easterners and Anioma folks. And often times many of my posts are responses to the attacks from the SW, North, Edo, Itsekiri and Urhobo. This is the gang that would rather have everyone remain in this cesspit with them since they have only survived and flourished at the expense of others by virtue of the injustice, inequity and lopsided arrangement therein.

As we march forward with our quest it's time to close ranks more than ever before and maintain our resolute stand - one for all, all for one. But we should not be seen cajoling anybody or group to buy into our quest for nationhood. It should be the other way round.

Continue to be your brother's keeper but not at the expense of our dignity.

Dhugal:

cc Truckpusher,TonyeBarcanista

In Nigeria anybody can bear anything as long as it serves their purpose ,you can walk into any court in this Nigeria and swore an affidavit and it would be accepted ,so this list would only be accepted by a flawed system for a flawed people.

Maybe, if they were shot dead their original identity would have been known.

Bottom line is simple : That nonsense won't be tolerated again.

ikechu1278:


1. Igweocha itself is the historical name all Igbo had for current day PH before European gave it the term PH. Even the current members of ohaneze from ikwerre such as obi wali, Issac wonwu, etc equally refers to PHC as igweocha. Nothing is stopping una from calling ph whatever names your ancestors called it prior to European invasion is there? Last I checked, are Igbo pointing gun in una head to follow us refer PH as igweocha? Are we?

It is disrespectful and insult to tag our land what you wish to tag it and not what we want you to tag it. It is our land and the only thing for you to do is to respect it. It doesn't matter whether it was given us by the Brits or congolese, what matters is what we(as owners) view it. We view it as PortHarcourt and Not Igweocha or whatever. The least you can do is to respect our position. We can't accept such open show of disrespect Sir! It is Our land, PHC belongs to us and it is exclusively in our place to determine the name of the city.

2. I'm from SS, asaba precisely, and I don't see nor do I consider Ken Saro wiwa nor Issac Adaka boro as ND hero's. My hero is Chief Dennis Osadebay. Just because osadebay is a hero in anioma does that now translate him as ND hero? No. likewise the two mentioned. Ken wiwa and Issac boro are hero's to their own tribe and I highly highly doubt you expect any Igbo to show respect to two people who assisted in killing our people? It is like asking Igbo's to respect awolowo. The same way una have no respect for ojukwu despite he is a loved man in the Igbo community and we have no problem nor drilling down in ppls head to respect him is the same way you shouldn't drill down on igbo to respect those we believed hurt us. Simple!!! For the second part of your post, I really cannot speak on that part because in some occasion, SE have accused anioma of treachery before so I won't try to speak nor defend it.

It is a straightforward case! I maintained that Respect for SS as a group and as individuals. If you an Anioma man believe in casting aspersion on ND Greats like Boro and Wiwa is your choice. In fact, it has even put a fence and has knocked out ANY proposed country between us(Ijaws specifically) if the mainstream Igbos hold on to this belief. As long as Ijaws, Ogonis, Ikwerres, Binis, Urhobos etc are concerned, Isaac Boro and Wiwa are part of the heroes of Niger-Delta. I wish Abacha had granted the proposed Warri state. As for the treachery aspect, you(Anioma) may accept it but my people and others from the region are saying that they don't accept it. It is unacceptable for anyone to insult our forebearers and present generation unjustly. If this is held by mainstream Igbos, then I have to restate that the proposed united country won't work. Maybe an Igbo only and/or those that agrees with this position. But it is a No-No for the Ijaws especially

3. I agree with you on that aspect. Likewise you should follow your owm advice. The same way I cannot speak for you or anyone else for that matter is likewise the same way you cannot speak for me, etche, etc. The reason SE people go on attack is first una attack them first. Secondly, twisting facts to present itself as they are channeling or forcing community to protest. Like for example: asking the protesters to protest in abuja when based on the names released from the arrest majority of the protesters in pH were etche and last I checked etche community is in river state. You have no right to tell them to leave the land of their ancestors to go protest somewhere just because you disagree with their own opinions. The same way they respect you enough not to force you to join them is the same way you should extend that same respect to them..
The reason I say this is because I was here and read individuals telling the asaba women that protested to leave asaba and go protest in anambra despite itself asaba is our ancestors land.
Respect is reciprocally... Don't swing if una don't want igbo swinging cause we'll swing back.

I am not speaking for you! Neither am I speaking for others. But I am telling you that the position of the Ijaws, Ogonis, Itsekiri, Urhobos, Binis, Auchi's, Ikwerre, Ekpeye etc must be respected WHATEVER it may be.

ikechu1278:


1. Igweocha itself is the historical name all Igbo had for current day PH before European gave it the term PH. Even the current members of ohaneze from ikwerre such as obi wali, Issac wonwu, etc equally refers to PHC as igweocha. Nothing is stopping una from calling ph whatever names your ancestors called it prior to European invasion is there? Last I checked, are Igbo pointing gun in una head to follow us refer PH as igweocha? Are we?

2. I'm from SS, asaba precisely, and I don't see nor do I consider Ken Saro wiwa nor Issac Adaka boro as ND hero's. My hero is Chief Dennis Osadebay. Just because osadebay is a hero in anioma does that now translate him as ND hero? No. likewise the two mentioned. Ken wiwa and Issac boro are hero's to their own tribe and I highly highly doubt you expect any Igbo to show respect to two people who assisted in killing our people? It is like asking Igbo's to respect awolowo. The same way una have no respect for ojukwu despite he is a loved man in the Igbo community and we have no problem nor drilling down in ppls head to respect him is the same way you shouldn't drill down on igbo to respect those we believed hurt us. Simple!!! For the second part of your post, I really cannot speak on that part because in some occasion, SE have accused anioma of treachery before so I won't try to speak nor defend it.

3. I agree with you on that aspect. Likewise you should follow your owm advice. The same way I cannot speak for you or anyone else for that matter is likewise the same way you cannot speak for me, etche, etc. The reason SE people go on attack is first una attack them first. Secondly, twisting facts to present itself as they are channeling or forcing community to protest. Like for example: asking the protesters to protest in abuja when based on the names released from the arrest majority of the protesters in pH were etche and last I checked etche community is in river state. You have no right to tell them to leave the land of their ancestors to go protest somewhere just because you disagree with their own opinions. The same way they respect you enough not to force you to join them is the same way you should extend that same respect to them..
The reason I say this is because I was here and read individuals telling the asaba women that protested to leave asaba and go protest in anambra despite itself asaba is our ancestors land.
Respect is reciprocally... Don't swing if una don't want igbo swinging cause we'll swing back.

I agree with the points you've raised, the same goes for Truckpusher, TonyeBarcanista and other like minds. The Biafran issue is a sensitive one. One could even see the level supposed friends have toed as regards protecting their people and interest.
For me, I have stated it categorically that I'm in for a Confederate Nigeria with autonomous regions drawn along ethnic lines. However, if division becomes inevitable I'll love to see an Igbo only country carved out of Nigeria with all our kiths and kins included ( from the fringes of Igbanke to Igbo-Benue and down to borders of Ijawland in Rivers) all terms of existence will be drawn were necessary. Reasons best known to me. A UN/AU supervised referendum shall be conducted in Ikwerreland, Ekpeye, Ika, Ukwuani and others areas with pockets of dissenting voices. We shall accept any group that joins us while the rest are left to their fate in Nigeria or a future Niger-Delta republic as the case may be. But one thing is sure, we are not going to force any group to join, inasmuch as we won't tolerate anybody or group that may forcefully or through crook try to claim any inch of the Igboid lands without a referendum.
Yet, if Biafra be the case with the inclusion of the minorites then let there be terms of agreement as Barcanista rightly stated.
1) Each region shall be semi-autonomous and semi-independent.
2) Each region shall control its resources and give to the centre what accrues to it.
3) Each region shall be compose of mutually intelligeable ethnic lines or willing groups out to form its own region.
4) Each region shall speak its native language with English as the lingual franca.
5) There shall be exist 3 capitals in the new country. The Administrative shall be located in the Uyo section. The Legislative Enugu, while the Judiciary in Bayelsa.

Truckpusher:
In Nigeria anybody can bear anything as long as it serves their purpose ,you can walk into any court in this Nigeria and swore an affidavit and it would be accepted ,so this list would only be accepted by a flawed system for a flawed people.

Maybe, if they were shot dead their original identity would have been known.

Bottom line is simple : That nonsense won't be tolerated again.

The reason I reason I refused to respond to any of the paraded names is because anybody can officially file any name that he desires before a court or even at police station. I will skip it.

TonyeBarcanista:


It is disrespectful and insult to tag our land what you wish to tag it and not what we want you to tag it. It is our land and the only thing for you to do is to respect it. It doesn't matter whether it was given us by the Brits or congolese, what matters is what we(as owners) view it. We view it as PortHarcourt and Not Igweocha or whatever. The least you can do is to respect our position. We can't accept such open show of disrespect Sir! It is Our land, PHC belongs to us and it is exclusively in our place to determine the name of the city.




It is a straightforward case! I maintained that Respect for SS as a group and as individuals. If you an Anioma man believe in casting aspersion on ND Greats like Boro and Wiwa is your choice. In fact, it has even put a fence and has knocked out ANY proposed country between us(Ijaws specifically) if the mainstream Igbos hold on to this belief. As long as Ijaws, Ogonis, Ikwerres, Binis, Urhobos etc are concerned, Isaac Boro and Wiwa are part of the heroes of Niger-Delta. I wish Abacha had granted the proposed Warri state. As for the treachery aspect, you(Anioma) may accept it but my people and others from the region are saying that they don't accept it. It is unacceptable for anyone to insult our forebearers and present generation unjustly. If this is held by mainstream Igbos, then I have to restate that the proposed united country won't work. Maybe an Igbo only and/or those that agrees with this position. But it is a No-No for the Ijaws especially


I am not speaking for you! Neither am I speaking for others. But I am telling you that the position of the Ijaws, Ogonis, Itsekiri, Urhobos, Binis, Auchi's, Ikwerre, Ekpeye etc must be respected WHATEVER it may be.

How do you know their position? You just speaking for your self, haven't heard of igbos calling ph igweocha till now and if the rivers people don't like it someone would have said it out prolly someone in power so I don't know your point man

Who are Rivers people? Who are south-south people? Were these names mentioned 100yrs ago? Hausa man gave you a name and you are proudly answering it.

TonyeBarcanista:

I neither disputed nor agreed by the claim that some IPOB youths arrested were indigens of Rivers state. I won't comment on that.

My position on this subject is very clear and wouldn't want to drag it. It is not about PDP or APC but about outhe South-South people. If the Igbos want a united SSSE front(which is very good), then we must define terms of agreement. Some of the terms are;

1. They stop calling PHC as 'Igweocha' because the status of Portharcourt as the exclusive property of Rivers people as presently constituted is non-negotiable.

2. Respect for our Greats like Isaac Adaka Boro, Ken Saro Wiwa and every other Niger Deltan Heroes. Also respect for our fathers and stop calling us 'Traitors' because I can't remember any treachery. The respect must also be to our present generation that have been bearing pains to swallow pills they never bargained for.

3. Respect for the decision of South South people as a whole and as individuals on this subject irrespective of their/our/my position. Irrespective of whether they agree with some of your position or not.

These to me are very fundamental to real unity. We don't have to fight each other.

Another tales by the moonlight. I remembered Ken Saro Wiwa telling one of his after they made him a commissioner and how he loved one Nigeria more than his mother.
Where is he now?

Truckpusher:
The people that protested in Port Harcourt were Igbo touts and jobless boys that were brought from the east and mixed with the ones that are already resident in the different part of the state and I know this because it took them almost three working days for them to organize a protest after Kanu's arrest and I can also tell you that this nonsense and insult will not be tolerated anymore.

We have coexisted peacefully for centuries and we have always welcomed you with an open arm even as the same gesture can never be extended to us in your homeland,please for the sake of the peaceful coexistence and economic benefits we enjoy from each other, kindly call your youths to order because what they did was totally unacceptable under any circumstances and next time it won't be funny.....at all.

But the nonsense and insult of selling niger delta oil wells to the north and the hypocritical south west, the hounding of a president of niger delta origin out of office through violence, propaganda, victimization, corruption accusations and conspiracy must be endured sometimes I really wonder what set of people are niger deltans.

Alams has been hounded to his untimely death, Deziani is being persecuted for unsubstantiated crimes, ibori is serving a jail sentence, Goodluck Jonathan is on the verge of going on exile and all niger deltans come to do is to rant against biafran demonstration in a city with close affinity with igbos.

MayorofLagos:


Prior to the amalgamation of 1906, Iboland, geographically, did not include any part of any land whatsoever in the oil protecorates. There is a league of Nations or Kingdoms with whom Colonials went into contract of security, popularly termed "Treaty". Not a single Iboland or territory or domain or Kingdom (which was not even known in Iboland) signed a Treaty with Britain. Yoruba, Edo, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Efik....these were the Treaty Nations. There was no place known as Port Harcourt.or Rivers State back then. It was a Kingdom under a King and the throne and its dynasty as well the territorial domain were non-Ibo. So why is Ibo claiming any part of the Treaty Nation as its own and want Biafra to rule over it?

Go find out for yourself that Owerri provence included the what today you call Port Hartcourt, and even Bonny--Igwe Ocha and Igwe Nga respectively, and the majority people of the area described themselves, signed themselves as, and called themselves Igbos.
Until the discovery of oil, the tribal identity of the inhabitants of the area has never been an issue, and it wouldn't be an issue when the fortunes of oil is gone.

Eziachi:
Another tales by the moonlight. I remembered Ken Saro Wiwa telling one of his after they made him a commissioner and how he loved one Nigeria more than his mother.
Where is he now?

Thank you.
Ogonis, Ijaws, and other Qua-Ibo groups were never under any pressure to become Igbo bu'Igbo, those some of them tried.

TonyeBarcanista:





I am not speaking for you! Neither am I speaking for others. But I am telling you that the position of the Ijaws, Ogonis, Itsekiri, Urhobos, Binis, Auchi's, Ikwerre, Ekpeye etc must be respected WHATEVER it may be.

Under what capacity are you telling me the positions of the people you mentioned?
Which referendum result under which these positions you mentioned took place?
You claimed not to speak for any one in one sentence and then in another sentence that followed you are stating someone's position.
What is the difference?