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Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ezeagu(m): 11:20pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
Deltagiant: Let me just understand what you're saying, are you saying those groups aren't Igbo? Because I'm saying that they fundamentally are and are seen as such in Rivers. Just checking. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 11:20pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
Deltagiant. I understand the point you are making. Coming hard on those Igbophobic SS people, might chase away the few pro Igbo ones amongst them. But sometimes, it's just too hard avoiding these false allegations against Ndiigbo emanating from those quarters, and it would appear that it's impossible dispelling those falsehoods without hurting the sensibilities of the pro Igbo ones amongst them. It's really a dilemma. 6 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Deltagiant: 11:22pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
pazienza: My brother, one need to walk along a fine line here. |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 11:27pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
ezeagu: No, Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Etche and Ogba are more comfortable with the IGBOID tag than Igbo- go figure. In Rivers, only Ndoki, Asa, Ndoni( to an extent), Egbema, identifies as Igbo. And this is because, Egbema has a significant part of their people in Imo state, while Asa and Ndoki have the majority of their people in Abia, Ndoni has strong attachment to Ogbaru and Anioma. If Asa, Ndoki and Egbema people had all their people in Rivers state, I am sure they would have joined the IGBOID club by now. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ezeagu(m): 11:29pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
pazienza: Forget it. If you've ever gone to the SS, you'd know why people like Abagworo would advice you to just concentrate on an Igbo republic. I'm sure there are even Kanuri people who wouldn't mind joining and protesting for Biafra if you sold it to them well enough. I hope you understand what I mean by that statement. An indifferent attitude towards even a sense of unity is enough to tell you about what would come in bad times. 7 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ezeagu(m): 11:31pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
pazienza: I've never heard Igboid as an identity before, anyway the point was that they are branded as Igbo in Rivers state, especially in politics so them being in a Biafra protest does not indicate the sentiments of non-Igbo eastern Nigerians, because Igbo or 'Igboid', they are Igbo at the end of the day. 4 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 11:33pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
ezeagu: I know those ethnic groups wella. If you look at my signature, you will know that I have always been a proponent of Republic of Alaigbo. It's my first choice. Biafra is only an alternative. 4 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by theDEVILisHERE: 11:35pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
EasternLeopard: You have to understand that The restoration of Biafra has nothing to do with oil wealth It is not even really about freedom from the so called nigeria or the other groups that makeup nigeria This is far deeper than what ordinary people can understand People will understand what I said when Biafra is finally restored 2 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by theDEVILisHERE: 11:39pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
pazienza: You have to tell people the raw harsh truth Cause that is what will set them free |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 11:40pm On Oct 24, 2015 |
ezeagu: Not at all. Infact mere suggestion that they are Igbo at the end of the day, is enough to see them conjuring up images of you wanting to exterminate them and steal their oil, as a matter of fact, it's the worst crime you will ever commit. Calling them Igbo to them simply translates to the rest of Ndiigbo wanting to share their oil wealth with them or simply outrun them and seize their oil wealth. That's how bleeped up their mentality are. If you want to be their friends, call them Ikwerre, Etche, Ogba, Ekpeye, it gives them a sense of security, an assurance that they won't get over run by the hordes of invaders in SE waiting to take their land from them. 6 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Armaggedon: 12:19am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza:you made sense. If we want to get an all igbo state me must be ready to be very diplomatic and make lots compromise. The truth is that those Igbo groups in rivers state are comfortable with the present structure of the country. They have have their oil revenue, they are majority in rivers. They have numerical and academic advantage over the riverine people. Therefore any talk of Biafra puts a sense of fear in them. The fear of being stampeded and outcompeted by mainland Igbos. The challenge is how to allay these fears. This is where the service of great leaders like late Nnamdi Azikiwe is needed. People who understand the sensibilities of these groups. Therefore to reach out to them we must make serious concessions like in the area of resource control . We must enter into serious agreement with their leaders and assure them of a stake in biafra. We must convince them that biafra will belong to all. Then you will see them have serious thought about biafran agenda. Going by past experiences.The next step Northerners in power will take to neutralize this Biafran popularity is to meet the leaders of these groups and make more concessions to them (maybe in the area of resource control) but if we do it before them they will take us more serious. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Obiagu1(m): 12:35am On Oct 25, 2015 |
EasternLeopard: Heap of bullshit! Is Biafra going to be a partnership where one party is cheated or a partnership where truth and fairness is enforced? If the former is the case they should fking go to hell. Portharcourt's original name was Igweocha. There's Ikwerre part and there's Okrika part and the natives know where the boundaries are. If Biafra becomes a country, Ikwerre part would be renamed Igweocha if Ikwerres agree or go with Igbo Portharcourt and the other part Ijaw Portharcourt with both sides administered separately by the Igbo Province and the Ijaw Province or by Biafra and by Nigeria depending on how we end up. This is not unusual. We have Niagara Falls, Canada and Niagara Falls, USA; and Lloydminster, Saskatchewan and Lloydminster, Alberta both in Canada and some other cases where a city is shared by different states/provinces. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody: 12:54am On Oct 25, 2015 |
Biafra is coming! 7 Likes
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Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody: 12:57am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza: Obiagu1: |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Obiagu1(m): 1:14am On Oct 25, 2015 |
I think it's high time Nnamdi Kanu redrew the map of Biafra. Just as he excluded the Edos, he should exclude the rest of the SouthSouth, a beg. They want Nigeria and Nigeria they shall get. They should remain and ask Nigeria for resource control. 8 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by kingzizzy: 1:27am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza: I understand where your coming from. It took me a while to understand it as an Anambra man. The average SE Igbo will find it hard to swallow just like me. But what we are talking about now has gone past petty differences or politics. An uncle of mine,in 1970 after the war, went back to the house he built in PH only to meet an Ikwere woman who had taken over his house and told him that "Igbos are not welcome here". The fact that she was speaking in Ikwere ( which is an Igbo dialect not even an Ikwere man can deny) and he was responding in conventional Igbo meant nothing to her.I was at an Ikwere persons burial less than 2 months ago and during the eulogy, many Ikwere introduced themselves. All of them had Igbo surnames and I understood 80 to 90% of the Ikwere dialect. I knew in my heart that these are are my kith kin. But it goes both ways. Some of then will still call me an Anambra man 'Isoma' or ' Ndi-Isoma'. I agree with what the poster said. Should the Ikwere be a problem with the restoration of Biafra, we forgo PortHacourt and wish the Ikwere kingdom well in Nigeria. But at the back of my mind, I still believe that the Ikwere will return to the Igbo fold or at least the Biafran fold because Biafra is not about being Igbo. what unites us much is much deeper than what wants to divides us. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 1:30am On Oct 25, 2015 |
Obiagu1: Lol. You seem a bit irritated and angry. There is no need to be, as a matter of fact, republic of Igboland with SE and Enuani, Oyigbo and Egbema will be just perfect. Things are always easier when you start from the known to the unknown. Republic of Igboland is the known, let's start from there. 3 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by islandmoon: 1:34am On Oct 25, 2015 |
greedy igbos also want PH..lol, this is laughable there is one calling himself Eze ndigbo of Nairaland, soon they will say they help the owner build Nairaland. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by IGBOSON1: 1:35am On Oct 25, 2015 |
new2020: ^^^Of course i've known this all along! One of the reasons you see them sucking up to Ben Ayade of Cross Rivers, and trying to get control of Rivers and Akwa Ibom states through the 'judicial' backdoor is to try and isolate Igbos in the South East! It's a replay of 1967-70 all over again, but this time they're employing the charm offensive! One of their hopes is that if they can get these Niger Delta states onside, and deny Igboland/SE access to the sea, then we'll give up the agitation! This is why you must have read on here some of them (both those claiming to be from the Niger Delta and those other ones from the other side of the Niger) gloating and insisting that Igboland is landlocked and that if we're leaving at all that we'll only be taking the 5 SE states with us.....effectively saying that we should forfeit the part of Igboland that Gowon and Awo carved into Rivers state in 1967! 5 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 1:36am On Oct 25, 2015 |
kingzizzy: Not really. As long as crude oil remain economically viable and found in commercial quantities in those Igbo speaking parts of Rivers, what divides us is always going to be strong, as those peeps are incapable of thinking outside crude oil, as it stands. I fear for our future generations. If we move ahead to form a nation without those Igboids today, by the time their crude oil is finished and they come back to their senses, an insurmountable rift must have been created between our offsprings and theirs. We are currently at a cross road with them. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ezeagu(m): 1:37am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza: Yeah, this is what I don't get about some Igbo people about Mba Miri. Why get angry when they reject you? You should even be pushing for just an Igbo country. What are they taking away from the Igbo man or what great advantage is there in having others in your country who are indifferent to you at best? Why not be enthusiastic about having people with a similar culture and prospect of one language governing you? People you know you have an ancient link with? Again, I believe that if there is a Nigeria, there should be eastern unity, but anything else means that every group decides their destiny and there are no hard feelings about that. 3 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Obiagu1(m): 1:42am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza: Actually I am very irritated and angry. We've wasted over 50 years in Nigeria and when it seems we might be getting closer to achieving our dream of freedom, some idiots will come and start talking about resource control, resources they have already lost to the Hausa/Fulani. Imagine? Do they control their resources now? Absolutely No! No matter how one tries to explain that in Biafra, every province would control their resources absolutely, they will still come up with another stupid excuse just to dampen our enthusiasm. Now it is Portharcourt, a city known to all that care that it belongs to the Igbo and Ijaw, the OP is here talking about forfeiting Portharcourt entirely just to please a set of people that would gain more in Biafra than the Igbo. Well, the sincere truth is that the Haus/Fulani want their oil so we have to leave them behind and run before this seemly possible opportunity closes on us further entrapping us in Nigeria. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ezeagu(m): 1:44am On Oct 25, 2015 |
Obiagu1: The map is the least of what needs to be changed. I've listened to Radio Biafra, they believe that everyone including Idoma and Itsekiri people migrated from Aguleri! They say that the unity between Igbo, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ibibio, etc is that the groups names starts with 'I' and their women wear two piece wrapper. At first I thought this was just propaganda or some sentimental words used to forge a sense of unity, then you come to realise that this is actually being peddled as facts, and that's when I started being wary of Radio Biafra and the Biafra movement it self (not self determination or secession). 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by IGBOSON1: 1:44am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza: ^^^Bros, you've not heard their latest joke? They're saying that Igbos like me from Ndoni in Rivers will stay behind with them in 'One Nigeria' together with Egbema, Obigbo, etc, while the rest of Igbos in the South East can leave! I guess i'll suddenly morph from having a fl/athead to having a conehead, and i'll stop being irritating to them because of my ethnicity! I also guess that i'll now be treated as equals with them when you guys leave, and i'll have an equal shot at the presidency like the other two 'majority' ethnic groups would have....all that talk of Igbos having to wait till God-knows-when to have a shot at governing their 'one Nigeria' will finally be done away with! I guess i'll now be welcomed in Lagos, treated with respect and become an equal partner with the sons-of-the-soil by virtue of being a Nigerian! 18 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 1:46am On Oct 25, 2015 |
IGBOSON1: Where there is a will there is always a way. The Igbo that survived everything Nigerians threw at us Post civil war, and rose from the ruins of Biafra to where we are today, can turn Republic of Igboland into a beautiful country we all can be proud of. We all saw what a single man Maduka can do for his community, think of what we all can achieve in Biafra with such patriotism. Is there no longer Obuaku. They say converting it to a sea port will be too costly, but yet not impossible. If Biafra is not going to be a country where we turn impossibilities to possibilities, using our vast international highly educated human resources, then I see no point in agitating for Biafra. Adversity is the mother of invention. The affinity for reward without hardwork was the undoing of Nigeria, and what we must avoid. 16 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by IGBOSON1: 2:00am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza: Another plan of theirs is that if peradventure Ndigbo manage to gain our freedom and Cross Rivers, Rivers, Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom remains behind with them, they will then try to frustrate us economically via these four states! Left to these 4 states (esp' Cross Rivers and Akwa Ibom) i don't forsee any problems with regards to Obuaku; but when you factor in these hateful people up north and their southern helpers then the story changes automatically! 1 Like |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 2:03am On Oct 25, 2015 |
Obiagu1: No amount of concession you make will please those people. I had already talked on that. There is no cure to their innate Igbophobia. In 2011, when GEJ wanted to run for presidency and the North was against him, saying that they had to complete their eight years. There was an Igbo Guy here then, I can't remember his moniker, he was a lone voice in the desert then cautioning Ndiigbo against the pitfall we might be setting ourselves up for, if we support GEJ. He reasoned that we should cut a deal with the North and support the North in exchange for Northern support of an Igbo president in 2015. Igbos like me then felt outraged by that his suggestion, we preached for Eastern unity instead. We felt that by supporting GEJ, those SS people could see that we never for once meant harm for them. But with hindsight now, you will be sure that if GEJ was an Igbo man, and those SS got a chance to make a deal with the North to his detriment, they wouldn't have hesitated, they would grab it with both hands,this they will do without remorse. Such is the manner of people we are dealing with. They are irredeemable. We have given it our best, but it's time we moved on. 20 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by pazienza(m): 2:10am On Oct 25, 2015 |
IGBOSON1: What haven't they thrown at us in Nigeria? Yet we stand on top of all developmental indices in Nigeria. We eluded their snares in Nigeria, as an independent country with more clout, we will overhaul whatever hurdle Nigerians place before us. My believe in the " can do" spirit of the Igbo nation is absolute. We are more than capable. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Obiagu1(m): 2:10am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza: I was actually that lone voice. I eventually had to go with GEJ after I figured I was in the minority. I believe in majority rule. The recent Edwin Clark's statement on GEJ has finally helped me come to a definite conclusion about who they are. I am not going to be deceived again one bit. 12 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by IGBOSON1: 2:11am On Oct 25, 2015 |
pazienza: ^^^Unfortunately, the bolded is so true! See as they can't even stick together and speak with one voice presently! GEJ was flung under the bus, and it's almost like nothing happened....they abandoned and denied him faster than a prostitute changing partners, and are now sucking up to the very people that feel they're not good enough to present another candidate for president! 16 Likes |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody: 2:17am On Oct 25, 2015 |
Kitaa ka I kwulu udi okwu m cholu inu. Let us keep championing the notion that Biafra will be an Igbo only country, at least here on Nairaland. All these insults will automatically cease, and we can begin to focus better on how to make Biafra a first class country without these unnecessary distractions. The Igbo land I have in mind, includes: the current five eastern states, Anioma and parts of Igbo land carved into Rivers & Benue state respectively. Notice that I did not include Ikwerre and the other Igboid groups who deny us because of 'oyel,' in this new Republic of Igbo land, called Biafra. We can't afford to have 'fake' brothers in our midst, who accept us only when the going is good and reject us like an anathema, the moment we encounter the slightest bit of misfortune. If Ndi Igbo unanimously tow this line, we will collectively build a country that will be to the envy of our enemies and the admiration of our friends. Ndi Igbo, we are more than capable. Let's stop belittling ourselves in the eyes of these our unrepentant and ungrateful neighbors bikonu! O gwukwana ka o ra m n'iru. pazienza: 19 Likes 1 Share |
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Obiagu1(m): 2:17am On Oct 25, 2015 |
The funny thing is that with all these their gra gra, if tomorrow Buhari announces that Igbo should get their Biafra, they will start fighting tooth and nail to join. Join in the struggle now, they won't. I swear to God, I'll take up arms and fight to resist them. Igbo is the reason Nigeria is one and not Islamic too, they all know that. 4 Likes |
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