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Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ARIZONA123(m): 8:36am On Oct 25, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Post his picx? Has it degenerated to this level? Well, FYI, Truckpusher is not Tobias or whatever. He's not Ijaw and he is proud of his ancestry.

#The Picx part is unnecessary bro
. Tonye shvt up! Tobias don buy market oo. His picx will flood here soon. Thank you
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by CyberWolf: 8:37am On Oct 25, 2015
atbu1983:
Major Emmanuel Arinze Ifeajuna. He is an Igbo man from Onitsha Anambra State. He was later executed by Ojukwu during d Biafra war because he told Ojukwu to surrender during the war because he believed Ojukwu cant win d war against Nigeria base on what he was seeing during d war.
concocted lies we've been hearing from time immemorial..Ifeajuna was executed because of sabotage...As a true Niger Deltan, when are you telling Buhari to implement confab report?
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by CyberWolf: 8:38am On Oct 25, 2015
ARIZONA123:
. Tonye shvt up! Tobias don buy market oo. His picx will flood here soon. Thank you
No need for that bro..
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ARIZONA123(m): 8:39am On Oct 25, 2015
Truckpusher:
Let them keep deluding themselves.

I'm their enigma in this forum especially that one called Pazienza, He's been telling everyone that I am an Ogba man but right now his ignorance is being replaced with another super ignorance. grin grin grin
. Tobias just shvt ur mouth. You will dance for me today after church. Greet Evelyn for me. Thank you!
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ishiamu(m): 8:40am On Oct 25, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
My brother, I wish our Igbo brothers will understand the sensitivity of this issue. We -in the South/South may be minorities in Nigeria but in unity, we can always stand as one of the majority. No need to fight and kill ourselves
You guys make me laff when y'all argue unnecessary things here, nobody here is mouth peace of the tribes so what ever you guys says here remains here and it ain't going outside of here, all this arguments of ph n biafra are unnecessary.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Obiagu1(m): 8:43am On Oct 25, 2015
EasternLeopard:
Don't forget that some minorities stood by us to the very end eg Annangs


The best approach is to give up PH , relocate our brothers further North and build a new city for them.


But any attempt by people like Truckpusher to steal any SS Igbo community to Niger Delta will be crushed. angry
At the boldface, you are deluded my friend.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by CyberWolf: 8:43am On Oct 25, 2015
pazienza:
It's a good suggestion you have, but even that I am afraid won't cure those folks Igbophobia, when I tell you they are irredeemable, believe me.

But, nevertheless, it's a good plan, it should be part of our plans.
Good..Any plan without a clear road map is dead on arrival. First thing first, we must have a clear defined constitution before people will start taking us serious. This constitution will define how we want to live as a people and as a nation. A biafran project without a clear defined constitution is like a blind leading a crippled and you and I knows that they will end up in a ditch..
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:44am On Oct 25, 2015
Sir, I think you are getting it wrong. Yes, we recognise the enormous support Igbos gave GEJ and it's my prayer that we reciprocate it when opportunity comes. However, support for GEJ is not synonymous with surrendering our land to the dictate of the Igbos. I recall maintaining that the Igbo be given the VP slot for 2019/2023 polls. It will be unfair to say that we are turning our backs on you guy

What we are saying and maintaining is that the South-South has distinct ethnic groups and want to be seen as such. Also, the status of Portharcourt as partly the exclusive of the Ikwerre people and partly that of the Okrikans/Ijaws is non-negotiable. The name "Ngweocha" is an insult to me as an Okrikan,Ijaw and Rivers man. It is unacceptable. Also, the talk of 'sacrificing' Portharcourt is a big insult because what belongs to natives remains with the native. In this case, the Ijaws and Ikwerres never complained that external force is occupying PH and we feel insulted when someone say PHC is Igboland. That's also unacceptable.

As for the South-South/Rivers Igbo talk, as much as I don't want to speak for other groups, I have to reterate that for the sake of respect to people, refer to them what they believe they are and not what you think they are. I will end here sir!
DeviIhimself:
give me one good thing archived with that so called unity in this useless bile filled Nigeria

mr TonyeBarcanista no matter how you see it and what you want to believe ND are bunch of minorities and inconsequential when it comes to National politics (according to Yoruba /hausa) that's why igbos rallied up behind Gej because as oppressed tribe we understand how it feels to be oppressed and be treated as inconsequential in the same country claimed to be one not that Gej really tried that much for us igbos.

but now it seems that... I reserve my comments
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by EasternLion: 8:46am On Oct 25, 2015
Truckpusher:
There are no Igbos in SS and this is what I'm talking about.

We are a distinct group that share some cultural attributes with the Igbos and that doesn't make us Igbos and this is the crux of the matter.
So what of Anioma and Obigbo people?


Now I know ur case don kpafuruka, sorry.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by nasoeb: 8:47am On Oct 25, 2015
4stylz:
Who needs biafra in Benin? We don't bleeping give a shiit about what you guys are doing in igboland, carry your biafra to igboland and let others be;

Igbo people cannot be trusted, one day they will claim they own every land in nigeria even up to cotonou.
GOD BLESS YOU. Thats the problem with the igbos they cant be trusted. they just believe they own everything, own ikwerre, own bonny, own rivers state (even when the ikwerres are denying them, own akwa ibom because we ibanis-bonny and akwa ibomites were kind enough to be accomodating. they are claiming some part of benue just because the name of the town sounds same like igbo. the average igbo man doesnt believe in coincedent nor that few part of their language could hav been borrowed from other tribes, but of d mindset they own everything. obvious fact y most tribe if not all dislike them because they arent comtempted but always claiming what belongs to others. nd y we are not comfortable in a union wit thm
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Truckpusher(m): 8:47am On Oct 25, 2015
Obiagu1:
At the boldface, you are deluded my friend.
Your ignorance is taller than mount Everest.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by omonnakoda: 8:48am On Oct 25, 2015
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody:
Rose2014:
Hypocrisy/mischief is when Yorubas read that Tonyebarcanista's post and saw that he desires a restructured Nigeria but they chose to be silent on that hence won't address it(or maybe they're too scared to speak )

Rather they were busy having orgasm on the part he doesn't support Radio biafra

Like Dearpreye once said "Nigeria has a date with the truth"
We're just busy dancing atilogu round the problem cheesy
erikcantona:
...We are no longer answering that name called ss we now knw better ! Together we are stronger !! We are biafrans mind you am from rivers state
dejavski:
Am ilaje and I support BIAFRA... though in a peaceful manner.
I have come to realise that most yorubas are really scared of secession but they won't admit it

Quote me anywhere
mankand:
Guts comes with glory. One thing I like about Nnamdi Kanu is that he is very articulate and organised.

He knows how to organise his people around his dream, he can be the next Che in Africa because he is fighting a just cause but due to the mainstream media propaganda, a lot of people won't see and agree to this.

He have been able to gather the support of the igbo people worldwide both indigenous, in diaspora and those whose ancestors were taken to slave in Europe, America and Latin America which have now become a force to recon with.

Unfortunately my people yorubas are still under the chain of mental slavery donating
their hard earned money to fake men called pastors instead of donating their money to organise themselves to build another oduduwa nation. We also have the same capacity to do the same as IPOB but we won't.

We also have yorubas all over Latin America, Europe, and other parts of the world.

I wish IPOB success in their quest because with their success, it becomes a motivation for other regions in Africa to do the same
tunjion:
The truth is we yorubas should stop opening thread to speak for south south minority.

Biafra from wat i read is not by force. Igbos in Edo such as the igbanke and Ika are Biafrans without doubt.

Other Edo ethnic group might even be rejected by Biafra. Some will end up applying to join.

Sentiment aside, they might feel Hausa and Yoruba will dominate them if they remain in Nigeria
new2020:
I'm not Igbo. I'm just knowledgeable of their achievements. Read below...Igbos have led in every achievement ahead of the Yorubas up until the civil war. Yorubas only got ahead after the war when the Igbos lost everything and seriously damaged by the war...that was the only way yorubas could get ahead. Awolowo was very much aware of this agenda which is why he offered yorubas free education while starving Igbos at the same time. You get it? However Igbos have since reclaimed that position since 2000.

Read below article. Again Igbos are not your mate. Whites are aware of this!

http://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/detail.php?news=2547
ceaz4r:
The phobia you and your lots have for the Igbos have become so obvious is now a sour to the eyes.
Whether your concern for the vaibility of the Biafran state when it comes is genuine or faulse, it doesn't scratch us one bit. In fact, we don't and won't notice.
Stay in your enclave there and watch.

* one advice for you, buy a carton of panadol extra and desolve the madicine in a basin of water to form syrup, also buy a straw. When the pounding headache from thinking about Biafra gets too unbearable, you sip some of the syrup. You will need it.
CreamyBanana:
That is nothing but the truth. I am a Yoruba man from Ondo state but I must say that Yoruba are the most wicked and hypocritical tribe in the world. Don't take their smile as love. They are the devil himself.

A Yoruba man will be laughing with you and be killing you at the same time. All the lecturers I ever had problems with were not only Yoruba but from the same state with me. They will be showing you around as their own brother but behind your back, they will be planning on how to destroy you and make sure you never reach their standards.

Yorubas prefer to destroy their own rather than help them. They don't want those below them to succeed. They always promise and fail. If a Yoruba man promise you a job, just forget it. You will just be wasting your time reminding him.

I have got more helps from Igbos and Hausas than even those that claim to be uncles. The only thing they are good at is making promises that they will never fulfil.


When I was looking for admission, it was an Igbo man that I did not even know from Adams that helped simply because he thought I was Igbo. A Yoruba man will never do that for his brother. Instead, they will be looking for every possible ways to bring him down.

My sister had problems with her supervisor who was a Yoruba man. But I never had a problem with my own supervisor who was a Hausa man.

I don't hate my people. I just hate their hypocrisy. People from other tribes are busy building their people and taking over our lands while we scheme on how to destroy ourselves.

I am in Ife. Please, anyone in Ife should go to Lagere now. All Igbos and Hausas have opened shop while my brothers are still sleeping and scheming evil against one another.

In Ilorin, Igbos, Hausas and Chinese have taken over everything because they keep on grooming and helping their brothers. Yorubas do not know how to build. They only know how to destroy one another.

Yoruba e ronu.
https://www.nairaland.com/2598007/yoruba-worst-tribe-world
CreamyBanana:
You know I am telling the truth.

Do you know Igbos secrets of how they are taking over Lagos? Because, they will own a shop, train their clansman for a while and help him set up his own business. They are spreading while we are shouting instead of helping ourselves.
dominique:
I'm Yoruba and I painfully agree to some of the things said by the Op. When it comes to being your brother's keeper, most Yorubas are lacking in that regards. My mum told me of an experience she had when her car got stuck in mud. It was the Yoruba guys that told her to pass that area that the road is not that bad. When she did and got stuck, they demanded to push out the car for a fee. She got angry and told them that rather than pay them, she would look for other people to push out the car and pay them. While she was still tongue-lashing them, two Igbo (not sure of their tribe sha) guys came out from their shop and helped her push out the car. She offered them money and they declined. She felt so ashamed for her people, I also felt ashamed. I won't say my people are evil tho. Evil knows no tribe or religion.

Yoruba e ronu tunwada (think and change your acts)
bakynes:
Am Yoruba and you can confirm from my previous comments. I agree with the OP on the point that we don't help ourselves. Even while I was in the UK, I could notice the trend among Yorubas. Indians, Jamaicans, Ghanaians help their brothers and sisters to come to the UK and help them get papers but We Yorubas even report our fellow brothers to the Home office, we don't accommodate our family members new in a foreign country for more than 6 months. WhIle in Nigeria I met with a lot of family friends who had companies but they kept on promising on helping me secure a job. Majority not all like to see you down and want you to keep begging them for money than helping you stand on your own. Igbos on the otherhand setup their brothers to stand on their own.
xtrorse:
...to educate you and keep the records straight read this excerpt by one of your own - Waheed B. on HOW YORUBA TRADITIONAL RULERS CONNIVED WITH ABACHA TO ROB MKO ABIOLA OF HIS MANDATE:

Traditional rulers have lost the political authority that they hitherto enjoyed. They are now mere ceremonial rulers. Except for the semblance of royalty and obvious opulence associated with some of them, it is not out of place to say that some royal fathers have become obvious embarrassment to their subjects by desecrating their royal and ancestral stools.
The Yoruba have not forgotten in a hurry how some of their traditional rulers connived with the military junta to ensure that the annulment of June 12 election victory of late Chief MKO Abiola was not reversed. Some of them did not fare better, under the late General Sani Abacha, probably the most enigmatic and despotic ruler to have ever piloted the affairs of Nigeria. Under his reign, Nigeria was in political and military quagmire. Even his deputy at a time, Gen. Oladipo Diya, was caught in Abacha’s web of bestial conspiracy following his alleged involvement in a hoax coup.
Diya was on his way to the Golgota. To drum up support for his evil machination, Abacha needed the support of Yoruba monarchs to nail Diya’s coffin. Quite a number of them were invited to the seat of power to watch the video of how Diya knelt, cried and begged Abacha, who was the protagonist, in the theatre of absurdity, to spare his life. Diya, according to some Yoruba monarchs, was the obvious mastermind of the coup. It was a case of dog eating dog. Abacha achieved his sinister aim using some Yoruba monarchs.
Many years after that portentous Abacha era, Lagos monarch, Oba Riliwanu Akiolu, had revealed the role he played as a commissioner of police in the alleged bribery of some Yoruba monarchs by Abacha to frustrate the actualisation of the mandate given to Abiola.

Bloody, greedy history distortionists!
NAIJASOM:
For me personally, it's fundamentally about what type of country will I leave for my children and grandchildren. Sadly, Nigeria embodies the opposite.

I have finally accepted that we are not one and will never be. I have a higher chance of being killed in Nigeria by a fellow country man than outside the country. In other countries, if I become very successful, I am a role model but in Nigeria, they will porposefully create policies to attack my success. One Nigeria indeed.
Ojukwu defended Igbos from ethnic cleansing no matter the attempts of hypocrites to cover up their evils. 
Ojukwu will forever remain a legend amongst Igbos regardless of what the same people who were responsible for what Ojukwu stood against thinks.

In spite of the great wealth and affluence at his disposal (courtesy of the father who was one of the top richest in Africa at then) Odumegwu Ojukwu lived fighting for the liberation of his people. A greedy man cannot risk his wealth or life for the emancipation of his people. Benjamin Adekunle a.k.a the Black Scorpion, who fought for Nigeria, confessed, "we fought for oil and not for unity". Gowon, Awolowo and their co-travellers murdered millions of Igbo civilians because of crude oil in the Eastern region.

Ojukwu was celebrated in life and death. Ojukwu remains a hero to this day!

A coward is not the man who stands up for his people and took precautions to preserve his life like Washington, Gaulle and Ojukwu.

What did other Nigerians and their leaders do when Igbos where being massacred across the North in 1966 before the civil war?
Did any of these Igbo accusers come to the aid of the people of Igbodo and Asaba in 1967 when genocide was being carried out on them by the same people?

And now you are bitter about Biafra, having nightmares and still bent on having Igbos be in same country with murderers and their collaborators.
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According to the warped logic of Yoruba hypocrites and their co-travellers any time there is a revolution or a coup the ethnic groups of the coup plotters should be singled out for ethnic cleansing![/color]

.. The people of Benin went identifying their Ibo-speaking neighbours from house to house for executions."

BLOOD ON THE NIGER: THE FIRST BLACK ON BLACK OCTOBER 1967 GENOCIDE OF ASABA PEOPLE BY MURTALA, GOWON  AND AWOLOWO

...over 1000 youths that were killed on October 7, 1967, in Asaba, most of them were members of the Action Group (AG)...
http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/73341-most-those-murdered-asaba-muritala-gowon-awo-were-action-group-members-emma-okocha-author-blood-niger.html
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Kaduna Nzeogwu, the January 1966 coup leader was a Niger-deltan from Delta-Igbo. And the other ring members are Kpera (Northerner), Ademoyega (Westerner) and Anuforo (Easterner). Their aim was to make Chief Obafemi Awolowo the ruler of the country. You can confirm and get more details about the January 15 coup from your uncle Ademoyega who was one of the coup planners.
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“Karma comes after everyone eventually. You can't get away with screwing people over your whole life, I don't care who you are. What goes around comes around. That's how it works. Sooner or later the universe will serve you the revenge that you deserve.” - Jessica Brod
...
Here are the members of Yoruba tribe that participated in the January 1966 coup:
(See Ben Gbulie: ‘Nigeria’s Five Majors.’).

*Adewale Ademoyega is the most prominent Yoruba participant in the coup, there were other Yoruba officers who were involved at the dangerous execution stage of the coup. One of them is:

*Second Lieutenant Olafimihan, an officer serving under Madiebo in Kaduna.

*Another is Lieutenant[/commander’s loyalty. (See Madiebo pp.17-18).

*Another is [color=#990000]Lieutenant
(some books refer to him as a Captain) Fola Oyewole. He, like Ademoyega, went on to fight for Biafra and wrote a book on his coup and wartime experiences. The book’s title is ‘Reluctant Rebel.’

*There is also Captain Ganiyu Adeleke who became an instructor in the Biafran Infantry School...
omonnakoda:
[size=5pt]Lol
We must advise you because when you start starving to death by the thousand we would be the ones that will have to sacrifice our children's amala and ewedu to feed your hungry mouths. I hear amala was a great delicacy in Biafra in 1969
You are at the top of the Baby factory Index, The counterfeit goods index, The drug trafficking and kidnapping index,The any bad thing in Nigeria index. The bringing shame to Nigeria around the world index and the Self Delusion index. We cannot help but advise you because the last time you embarked on your madness your woke up one day and killed Yoruba leaders ,naturally there was a need to chastise you. You know the saying "spare the rod.......etc and in the ensuing 30 month chastisement some Yorubas were killed. We do not like to hear of Yoruba deaths so we do everything we can to prevent that. Of course your folk will starve and die in many other painful ways which does not matter to you but we will do all we can to prevent our own needless deaths because of our humane nature we can only point out the natural consequences of intransigence to the proverbial pesky fly that refuses to abandon the corpse.

Hear what one of your brothers is saying about you in the Newspapers
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/biafra-count-us-out-of-self-determination-move-enugu-igbo-leaders/
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It was Igbo Officers that would go into Battle during the Biafra Civil War and, within the first 2 minutes, shoot themselves in the palm and ask to be taken away as wounded Soldiers. The Family members would actually lay in wait, somewhere, to observe his exit from the Battle Front, then go into celebration. That's how the majority of my Igbo Military Officers fought the Biafra War. The outcome is now History.

Ask people who were there during the War, the Igbo Officers were taking food, houses, Vehicles, etc from the Civilians by FORCE. Biafran Army Officers were even taking Girls and People's Wives by FORCE. NO KIDDING! You either Shut-up or his Bullet Shuts you up.

On January 10, 1970, Ojukwu told the Igbos in Biafra that he was going to China to buy Weapons for Biafra. That's the sincerity of the Igbo (Biafran) Leader to his people that he led. And, Ojukwu fled, while some of his Biafran Soldiers were still at the War Fronts engaging the Federal Troops with virtually bare hands and Dying in their large Numbers.

If Ojukwu could tell a lie to deceive the Igbos he led in Biafra, only God knows what the Nnamdi Kanus and the Uwazurikes of IPOB and MASSOB would do to their fellow Igbos when the chips are down.
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I have not seen a Tribe on this Planet that is as disruptive, destructive and deadly, even to itself and folks, as the Igbo Tribe.
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If Igbo Traditional Ruler could sell his people for money then, only God knows whether the Nnamdi Kanus and the Uwazurikes of IPOB and MASSOB have not already sold the Igbos and collected money.
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Without the Igboman, Today's Nigerian Economy and Currency Exchange Rate would have been much better than what the then enviable Nigerian Economy was during and immediately after the Civil War.
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Would it then be just only a coincidence that the Nigerian Economy has trended increasingly down hill with the increasing participation of the Igboman in the Nigeria Affairs from 1970 to date?
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Lastly, and Importantly, from what I have grown to see and observe of my Igbo Tribe, if any Igbo Man is unable to live with Men of other Tribes and thrive in the Country called Nigeria, that Igbo Man also would be unable to live with other Igbo Men and thrive in a Country called Biafra.
Quote Me![/size]
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by CyberWolf: 8:51am On Oct 25, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
This is the problem. Why not allow these people to agitate for themselves instead of speaking on their behalf? The people of the South South have come a long way. We are diverse and we have managed our differences in the best way we can. We see each other as brothers even in diversity and we maintain our distinct tribal nationality. We respect each other for recognizing us for who we are because we know that not everyone that answers "Uche" is Igbo, neither is is anyone that comes from Edo state is Bini. We know that not every Warri man is Urhobo. Some of us(Ijaws) have relatives in Ondo state but no time have we told the entire Ondo people that we are reclaiming 'part' of Ondo state, neither will you hear South-West Ijaws. That doesn't make them(Arogbos) less Ijaw than someone from Patani(in Delta state) or Ogbia in Bayelsa state.
I'm only speaking in support of some south southerners here who has showed sincere interest here in joining Biafra. I'm not speaking for inconsistent Niger Deltans here like you and others who has showed several times here why they shouldn't be taking serious. I will not be surprised if you starts chanting one Nigeria tomorrow because of a well respected Niger Deltan called Edwin Clark can deny GEJ today, then you guys are in for a long ride. That's why I want referendum to take care of this and not our individual opinion here.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:53am On Oct 25, 2015
ishiamu:
You guys make me laff when y'all argue unnecessary things here, nobody here is mouth peace of the tribes so what ever you guys says here remains here and it ain't going outside of here, all this arguments of ph n biafra are unnecessary.
Well, I don't see any argument as regards Portharcourt city. The case is settled!

How far na?
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Uniben4sure: 8:53am On Oct 25, 2015
Truckpusher:
We already know that your support for Jonathan was nothing but personal interest,exchange for Port Harcourt and our identity and not borne out genuine love.This we are already aware of.

Now take your support and shove it down your ass for all we care.

You need to learn how to separate political affiliation from regional and ethnic interest.
I am not even an advocate of Biafran secession.
I supported GEJ not because of portharcourt or exchange for whatever, but because I underrated Buhari ( thank God the man is now proving his mettle). Bro, I don't really care about ssouth or whatever you are called. Afterall, I have lived the greater part of life in the midst of northerners and swesterners.

I only pity my Igbo brothers who are yet to understand how treacherous an average ssoutherner can be.

How I wish my Igbo brothers can forget about this Biafra nonsense and come fully into the Nigerian politics, so we can play the politics and see who will remain perpetually in the minority. See minority ssouth now forming super on top the great Igbo nation. Wetin person no go see abeg.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by carnegiefan: 8:53am On Oct 25, 2015
This thread is really unnecessary. Certain things are never to be discussed in this forum.
I would advise my brothers to cease opening threads like this, please. Thanks!
If you want to make a difference, please join the nearest IPOB family near you.
The journey is a very long one.

BTW where is Duru1 huh
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Truckpusher(m): 8:55am On Oct 25, 2015
Uniben4sure:
I am not even an advocate of Biafran secession.
I supported GEJ not because of portharcourt or exchange for whatever, but because I underrated Buhari ( thank God the man is now proving his mettle). Bro, I don't really care about ssouth or whatever you are called. Afterall, I have lived the greater part of life in the midst of northerners and swesterners.

I only pity my Igbo brothers who are yet to understand how treacherous an average ssoutherner can be.

How I wish my Igbo brothers can forget about this Biafra nonsense and come fully into the Nigerian politics, so we can play the politics and see who will remain perpetually in the minority. See minority ssouth now forming super on top the great Igbo nation. Wetin person no go see abeg.
Don't be too emotional and take my advice.

Learn how to separate political leaning from regional/ethnic identity as it concerns IPOB movement.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by EasternLeopard(op): 8:58am On Oct 25, 2015
carnegiefan:
Some of my brother here have never contested for landed property before, obviously. haha.
How can you EVEN THINK of ceding what history says that you own?
If you cede what history says that you own, why would your opponent allow you to own anything?
Once you show that thoughtless concession, you lose respect and your opponent sees you as ready meat for taking.
Nna did anybody actually think this proposal through at all?
Nigeria is bad o, but I don't think it is bad enough for me to sell my father's lands including the "ime obi" land.
Concession on land is a slippery slope; concede one, you concede all!

Honestly I respect Yoruba on this type of thing.

Yoruba took effective charge of Lagos (whether Awori and Egun) claim Yoruba or not.
I sometimes don't understand Igbo kind of weak thinking.

Anyway, let me assume that the proposal will never see the light of day.
You are wrong absolutely wrong


What is PH compared to Biafra


To be truthful, PH belongs to Ikwerres who deny their Igboness and the Okrikans who are linked to the Ijaws.


If the Ikwerres reject Biafra respect their view and let them be.



Any SS Igbo community that rejects Biafra must be respected.



Israel is smaller compared to Igboland but more prosperous than Nigeria






We Igbos must forget PH for Biafra sake.


Those Ikwerres who supports Biafra should be relocated further North and a new city rebuilt for them.


Those who rejects Biafra should remain with Nigeria




Biafra must never be built on force but mutual agreement.








Let me tell you one secret



The earlier we allow people like Truckpusher pull his people away from Biafra the better


Why do I stand on this



One day oil will lose its value . When it happens, Igbo technological skill will be the new wealth .


By then their Children will beg to be Biafrans on Biafra own terms of condition




Pazienza cyberwolf ezeagu easternlionn


In politics look at the future and not the present.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by simplycarro: 8:59am On Oct 25, 2015
Truckpusher:
Don't be too emotional and take my advice.

Learn how to separate political leaning from regional/ethnic identity as it concerns IPOB movement.
Remove GEJ and PDP issue out of SS and SE relationships, the whole love affair falls flat as they have very strong mutual suspicions towards each other.
We know that these Igbos will use those political issues as a camouflage for their unbridled expansionist tendencies eventually.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody: 9:00am On Oct 25, 2015
CyberWolf:
I wanna quote you because you and some other people always make lots of sense when it comes to this Biafra issue. Are you the same person as Duru1? He makes lots of sense too.. That's btw. I think the only thing that will draw this people closer to Biafra is the draft of Biafran Constitution. I'm not an expert in law but I know we have so many experts in constitutional drafting littered throughout the world. Prof. Ben Nwabueze has helped in drafting constitution of so many African countries.
If we are able draft a constitution that will depicts the equity, fairness and justice which Biafra in anchored on, a constitution that will support resource control of every province, I think it will help as a road map to where we are heading and also will help in mitigating the fears of some of this non-Igbo Niger Deltans. What do you think?
Brother, I believe you know we have gone past the stage or mere talks, how do we make this work? What is the process involved? What will be needed?
The director has tried and is still doing his best, we all need to support and help out.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Obiagu1(m): 9:00am On Oct 25, 2015
Truckpusher:
The highlighted is what I have spent time here for the past three days trying to hammer it into their head but it seems that these guys are ready for the confrontational approach - May their wish be granted.
I don't lead IPOB, but I bet you if I were Nnamdi Kanu, I'd shrink the map to Igbo only Biafra.

Imagine you insulting Aniomas that they are not Igbos and think they will stay behind with you in Nigeria? SMH.
...and you will be the one accusing the Igbo of arrogance.

Enough of this already!
We can't be trying to move forward while being dragged backward.

You will enjoy your Nigeria.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody: 9:00am On Oct 25, 2015
This was why ojukwu failed because he fought a selfish war,feeling disgruntled and cheated in the nigerian army. He embarked on a foolish and senseless war! and turned his people to an ordinary Third class citizen in nigeria of today. And In turn brought shame,death,starvation and poverty to his people during the war. Now you want to claim my port-harcourt, give it a name you so please,without consultions and approval from the owners. Thunder will fire all of you! We are waiting for that day to come, nonsense!!! What an annoying thread.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Armaggedon: 9:05am On Oct 25, 2015
carnegiefan:
This thread is really unnecessary. Certain things are never to be discussed in this forum.
I would advise my brothers to cease opening threads like this, please. Thanks!
If you want to make a difference, please join the nearest IPOB family near you.
The journey is a very long one.

BTW where is Duru1 huh
this type of thread breeds confusion mockery
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by EasternLeopard(op): 9:05am On Oct 25, 2015
Obiagu1:
At the boldface, you are deluded my friend.
PH belongs to Ikwerres and Ijaws

If we Igbos claim PH it is because of the Ikwerre connection


If the Ikwerres reject Biafra, then we must forget PH




So stop thinking I am deluded.


This is politics be wise and firm. cool
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody: 9:07am On Oct 25, 2015
pazienza:
"We already know that your support for Jonathan was nothing but personal interest,exchange for Port Harcourt and our identity and not borne out genuine love.This we are already aware of".

Umunna! Can you see what I speak of. The writer of above statement is a well educated man, that should know better, you can only imagine the mindset of the uneducated ones amongst them.

Don't take my word for it. IPOB can send independent investigators to those parts and you will be amazed that this is the general consensus there.

Like I said, they are irredeemable.
Man, I was shocked to the bone when I read that. Mighty shocked.

Of a truth, this kind of thing would continue if Igbos ally with minorities in Niger Delta.

I'm in support of curlieweed and all those clamouring for total Igbo state. As a homogenous country of one nation, with our human and intellectual resources, we can survive and be great even without access to sea. Yet I still believe some waters in Abia can be dredged to a full and complete seaport.

Saying we should shove our support for Goodluck in 2011 and 2015 down our asss is a very good way to pay back a brother who have helped you to clinch the presidency.

This kind of payback was started by Wiwa in 1970 and would continue if you still lay trust in these folks. A very short statement with deep meaning, he made.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by ishiamu(m): 9:09am On Oct 25, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Well, I don't see any argument as regards Portharcourt city. The case is settled!

How far na?
Hala madrid.... can't wait for Nov 21st
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by carnegiefan: 9:10am On Oct 25, 2015
EasternLeopard:
You are wrong absolutely wrong


What is PH compared to Biafra


To be truthful, PH belongs to Ikwerres who deny their Igboness and the Okrikans who are linked to the Ijaws.


If the Ikwerres reject Biafra respect their view and let them be.



Any SS Igbo community that rejects Biafra must be respected.



Israel is smaller compared to Igboland but more prosperous than Nigeria






We Igbos must forget PH for Biafra sake.


Those Ikwerres who supports Biafra should be relocated further North and a new city rebuilt for them.


Those who rejects Biafra should remain with Nigeria




Biafra must never be built on force but mutual agreement.








Let me tell you one secret



The earlier we allow people like Truckpusher pull his people away from Biafra the better


Why do I stand on this



One day oil will lose its value . When it happens, Igbo technological skill will be the new wealth .


By then their Children will beg to be Biafrans on Biafra own terms of condition




Pazienza cyberwolf ezeagu easternlionn


In politics look at the future and not the present.
Ok, hear yourself on the bolded words. If Ikwere votes to reject Biafra we then take the ones that voted for Biafra and settle them somewhere northwards inside Biafra. I thought that majority vote carries the day? A NO vote ends it; they stay in naija. QED.
Look, maybe to qualify my position more, I believe in FREE WILL of people, which means that we shouldn't cede them BEFORE a valid referendum is held, as if shedding a dead weight or liability.
Ikwerre should get an opportunity via a referendum to choose. If MAJORITY of them reject Biafra, then they stay in Nigeria. No force whatsoever, but NONE will be resettled in Biafra because it doesn't work that way.

But we mustn't cede our land before anyone SERIOUSLY contested it.
Ceding it apriori is tantamount to irresponsibility and weakness.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Setaje(f): 9:10am On Oct 25, 2015
This is the same Truckpusher that always supports igbos but now that he has said u should not tamper wiv his identity. See as u people are insulting him. It is just wrong. He didn't say anything out of the ordinary. He spoke the mind of majority of the people in niger delta. Live him alone.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody: 9:10am On Oct 25, 2015
Truckpusher:
Our submission was simple , do not refer to any part of the Niger Delta as Igbo land and we are good to go but any attempt to disregard this simple genuine request will not be treated lightly and this is where we stand.
Let me reiterate here that I do not hate the Igbos, we've come a long way, we are neighbors , we are brothers, they have helped me and I have also helped them , I have lived among them, they are my neigbors, my colleagues, my friends , my inlaws,my business partners, my girlfriends grin and they have a place in my heart anytime but any attempt to touch my identity would be rejected outrightly and it would be considered as an ultimate insult.
We can work together as one undivided entity with a different identity and I hope the message is loud and clear.
Thank you.
You should say south-south.

Imo and Abia are Igbo states in the ND region.
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:12am On Oct 25, 2015
ishiamu:
Hala madrid.... can't wait for Nov 21st
But Madrid is Dead n grin
Re: PH Must Be Sacrificed For Biafra's Sake by Nobody:
TonyeBarcanista:
Sir, I think you are getting it wrong. Yes, we recognise the enormous support Igbos gave GEJ and it's my prayer that we reciprocate it when opportunity comes. However, support for GEJ is not synonymous with surrendering our land to the dictate of the Igbos. I recall maintaining that the Igbo be given the VP slot for 2019/2023 polls. It will be unfair to say that we are turning our backs on you guy

What we are saying and maintaining is that the South-South has distinct ethnic groups and want to be seen as such. Also, the status of Portharcourt as partly the exclusive of the Ikwerre people and partly that of the Okrikans/Ijaws is non-negotiable. The name "Ngweocha" is an insult to me as an Okrikan,Ijaw and Rivers man. It is unacceptable. Also, the talk of 'sacrificing' Portharcourt is a big insult because what belongs to natives remains with the native. In this case, the Ijaws and Ikwerres never complained that external force is occupying PH and we feel insulted when someone say PHC is Igboland. That's also unacceptable.

As for the South-South/Rivers Igbo talk, as much as I don't want to speak for other groups, I have to reterate that for the sake of respect to people, refer to them what they believe they are and not what you think they are. I will end here sir!
what is wrong with our brothers down east, they claim Lagos, they want to claim akure and now rivers is it because they don't know their origin?? later they will say we are Israelites bunch of confused people.
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