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| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by kingzizzy: 8:41am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Any map you see of Biafra today is merely a proposal. There is nobody alive that can draw an accurate map of what Biafra will eventually look like. My ideal Biafra is all the states in the SS/SE except Edo state (not excluding Igbanke people. However, we hope that Biafra will come by way of peaceful referendum and their maybe some of the minorities who feel more comfortable in Ngeria. Biafra might even turn out to be an "Igbo only" thing. The most important thing for me is that my people get out of Nigeria. Should Biafra become an Igbo only thing, I want only those who have shown they proud of their Igboness to be part of it. I mean the Delta-Igbos and most of the Rivers Igbos with the exception of the crazy Ikwere people. God Bless Biafra |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by simplycarro: 8:45am On Oct 26, 2015 |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by dmz1: 8:59am On Oct 26, 2015 |
I don't know why any matter Biafra is like cocaine that activates and stimulates the Yorubas. The op asks some questions about Biafra to Biafrans and they are all here bringing their unsolicited opinions. why don't you people just mind your affairs. |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by Kingyellew(m): 9:15am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Dissillussioned element, you claimed that you are residing in Akwa Ibom but your mother was impregnated by Hausa Fulani men. Is better you relocate to North east, because you must fall a victim of a great wind that is about blowing. |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by dmz1: 9:23am On Oct 26, 2015 |
@ dreycomalfoy My first question: since over 90% percent of us neither saw the civil war nor participated actively, and our youth were born 10 years after the war, where is all the hate and agitation from?our parents told us stories of the war, we read accounts of the remote and immediate causes of the war, we are witnesses to the consequences of the war. you must have heard of the abandoned property, the 20 pounds, the continued and regular killing of Biafrans and southerners in the north due to religion and politics, the permanently set political structure of Nigeria that makes progress impossible etc. we believe that we could run a better country in Biafra and these are some of the few reasons we are agitating for Biafra |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by Laveda(f): 9:37am On Oct 26, 2015 |
simplycarro: ![]() |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by Samirana360(m): 9:46am On Oct 26, 2015 |
slyng:And u ar daftest |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by orunto27: 9:49am On Oct 26, 2015 |
This is the voice of Righteousness, the voice Jesus Christ who holds the Sceptre of Righteousness while the Father, God, retains the Sceptres of Selfishness. The Father will not use what He has because the sons Sceptre is dominant and more powerful. |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by AgentOfAllah: 10:35am On Oct 26, 2015 |
theDEVILisHERE:Mr Devil (I hope you don't find the moniker offensive! theDEVILisHERE is both a mouth full and an inconvenience to type), I wish to engage you civilly on your claim, that is, "One Nigeria is only for fools"; and the premise upon which that claim is based (i.e. Only a fool would choose slavery over freedom). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Before I continue, I will briefly introduce myself to assuage any misapprehensions you may have about me. I have opinions about a lot of things, but none of my opinions is set in stone. I like to think my positions are well though out, but I also recognise that I may be deficient in judgement due to inadequate information, so I always look forward to updating my knowledge, and by extension, my body of opinions to cater to new information. A quick perusal of my previous comments will expose me to be a somewhat reasonable person. I say all that to assure you that I do not wish to engage in a posturing contest with you, rather I really want to understand where you're coming from and why you hold the opinions that drive your obviously strong convictions with admirable vigour. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To start with, since, if you choose to respond, we will be talking about Biafra quite a lot, I need you to first of all, define Biafra for me and interested readers. To me (and this is mostly because of my ignorance, but also due to scarcity of material), the concept of Biafra is still very much nebulous. Ways to define: To keep this casual without compromising on its informative value, 1) You can help by mentioning the border regions of Biafra. This will give me a clear conception of your idea of Biafra 2) You can provide links to cartographic materials that already exist online, but which you agree with as the definition of Biafra. 3) I don't want to limit you, so if you have a better way than the foregoing, please share Thanks. P.S. I do agree that only a fool will choose slavery over freedom, albeit with some qualifications which can be subject of another discussion..I wish to keep this one as coherent as possible. |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by vani86: 10:50am On Oct 26, 2015 |
simplycarro:and of course, there is always that dumb gay who talks without thinking, so igbos benefit more from one nigeria, why not discard of them then, since they are nothing buy leeches, why kill, marginalise and force them into a unity that aint unified |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by simplycarro: 10:53am On Oct 26, 2015 |
vani86:Bleep off. Who is stopping them? Did you see anyone manning toll gate at the exit of SW asking them not to go? You are pathetically dumb ![]() |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by vani86: 10:58am On Oct 26, 2015 |
simplycarro:from your reply which is quite naive by the way, i can assume you know absolutely nothing in politics, just a jobless fool looking for who to troll. enjoy your worthless life |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by simplycarro: 11:05am On Oct 26, 2015 |
vani86:Fool When next you travel home, don't bother leaving and see if anyone will force you back. |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by theDEVILisHERE: 3:39pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
AgentOfAllah:Don't want to write much Will try and keep this simple To your questions First Groups that make up Biafra are Igbanke, Igala, idoma, Igede, Isoko, Isobo (aka urobo), Itshekiri, Izon (aka ijaw), Ibibio/efik and Igbo (Notice the "I" initial in most of the groups) This groups are related by blood They all can trace their ancestory to one particular source ERI Apart from similarities in food and other things One of the ways to easily identify the Biafran groups is It is customary for women in this groups to wear a 2-piece rapper as part of their traditional dressing Secondly There are lots of documents about Biafra online But lots of them are either not really accurate or they don't give much Information on the issue Most of the real documents are not really on online but have been hidden from the public Some have been kept under restrictions in british liberaries Don't have much to recommend I'll only tell you to research on the documents the british signed when they first came for buisness venture in that part of the world Also try reading works that give elaborate inforrmation on africa and the various groups in africa before and just during the western invation Don't seem to get your third question Bottomline is For africa and africans to develop They must destroy this present structure put in by their slave imperial masters Go back to their original default setting so they can rediscover themselves and start developing properly The present structure and boudaries where put in by the imperialist for a reason The reason is to get you under their control Being under their control means you can only develop as much as they want you to What this means is that Africans cannot control their destiny When you cannot control your destiny You are a slave Until africans/black people face reality and do the needful Or else They will never ever attain true development There's a reason the continent is costantly in conflict and is in a hot mess (I kind of endedup writing much) |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by nigerdeltaaa: 3:43pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
a 19th century map
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| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by ROYALD(m): 4:34pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
Shut up you are you a yoruba man |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by AgentOfAllah: 5:12pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
theDEVILisHERE:Thanks for your definition. Going forward, I will accept the above as the definition of Biafra for the rest of our dialogue. This brings me to my second question, which is: Why do you think "One Nigeria" is only for fools? I assume the quoted excerpts from your last response are the answers to that question. A such, I have further questions: Excerpt 1 For africa and africans to developWhile as you rightly observed, the present structure was put in place by colonisers (or imperial masters, if you like), you have not provided any arguments as to why development is predicated on the destruction of the structure. So if you please, you can answer me these: 1) What does it mean to rediscover one's self? 2) What constitutes development according to you? 3) How does this self rediscovery lead to development as you've defined it? Excerpt 2 The present structure and boudaries where put in by the imperialist for a reasonI don't accept this claim. I may be wrong, but I believe we were already under the control of the imperialists before amalgamation (I assume this is what you mean by the "present structure" . More accurately, the imperialists put the present structure in place to streamline their governance of the erstwhile independently governed protectorates.Excerpt 3 Being under their control means you can only develop as much as they want you toI believe the imperialists relinquished control of the geographical expression that constitutes Nigeria in 1960; and to the best of my knowledge, practically all the major tribes played a role; one which was united in purpose, and seemingly effective. So can you explain what exactly you mean by "being under their control"? Excerpt 4 There's a reason the continent is costantly in conflict and is in a hot messCan you claim that Africa was never in constant conflict before the arrival of the European colonisers? If so, how did kingdoms expand, some spanning several countries according to modern borders. Don't worry about writing much. I am a patient reader, mostly! ![]() |
| Re: What We Igbo Should Know Before We Shout Biafra!! by Nobody: 3:49pm On Dec 12, 2015 |
NOBLEDANDY:Idiot like you.. Fool Must you insult the op? Why not deliberate on the matter. .asshole |
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. More accurately, the imperialists put the present structure in place to streamline their governance of the erstwhile independently governed protectorates.