winner01:
Lame comparison, You should have said "Not playing a sport, but spending so much time training on a sport, spending your days training even though you dont do the sport.
You are already engaging in that sport.
Your obsession with a "non-existent God idea" shows how crazy you are.

[b]
..lol.. Is this another way of saying "Please stop picking on my sky daddy..." Gods are ideas and these ideas have a disturbing effect on our society, has a retarding effect on many people and affects me too by bringing people everyday encroaching into my personal space to rub their belief my face.

You know i don't engage in this type of Children's talk... anyway someone who doesn't play sports and criticizes sports in the sports section is not another type sports.

(Criticizing and refuting religious ideas is not synonymous training... Upgrade )

Even though i am under no obligation or owe anybody any explanation but i think i will demonstrate so you would drop this "Begging for sky daddy tactics" You should drop the victims, it's gone stale.

I don't Game, i think games have a disturbing effect on the life's of youths, Can you please recommend to me which section on NL where i can share and discuss that idea with Gamers?

Just derailed ifenese' thread, this is my last reply to this baseless talk that has no ground..
If you don't want atheists to refute the disturbing lethal mythologies your religion propagates, why not pray for them to stop..

Start praying now, am sure prayer works.... Unless you are not confident prayer works...[/b]

winner01:
You are a confused entity. You just choose to hang around here, why
@bolded, thats a confused comment, i dont see you in churches and people have so much fun in God's presence. What fun have you brought here, Using curse or blasphemous languages against God;-\, Doesn't sound like fun, sounds like hate. We only feel you need help thats why some of us chose to reply.
We only had morals too because its an idea passed down to our generation dont you think.

Did God complain to you that he doesn't like the blasphemous language he uses against him or are you just mad that the ideas you have been indoctrinated with is being challenged? If he blasphemes against your God then how is that your business? Will you ever allow this your God that is said to be alive and can do all things to respond by himself? When will you ever allow your God to do anything for himself?

johnydon22:
[b]
..lol.. Is this another way of saying "Please stop picking on my sky daddy..." Gods are ideas and these ideas have a disturbing effect on our society, has a retarding effect on many people and affects me too by bringing people everyday encroaching into my personal space to rub their belief my face.

You know i don't engage in this type of Children's talk... anyway someone who doesn't play sports and criticizes sports in the sports section is not another type sports.

(Criticizing and refuting religious ideas is not synonymous training... Upgrade )

Even though i am under no obligation or owe anybody any explanation but i think i will demonstrate so you would drop this "Begging for sky daddy tactics" You should drop the victims, it's gone stale.

I don't Game, i think games have a disturbing effect on the life's of youths, Can you please recommend to me which section on NL where i can share and discuss that idea with Gamers?

Just derailed ifenese' thread, this is my last reply to this baseless talk that has no ground..
If you don't want atheists to refute the disturbing lethal mythologies your religion propagates, why not pray for them to stop..

Start praying now, am sure prayer works.... Unless you are not confident prayer works...[/b]

Perfect response . Please winner01, if you believe that what ever you ask for will be done according to what Jesus promised you guys in the bible, why don't you just pray to your God and make him shut us up. If you are confident that prayers work, just pray and ask this God of yours to shut up us, he can create a NL account and ban us all, since yo guys claim he can do all things.

Medicis:
The Bible has been around before you were born and will still be around when you are long dead and rotten in grave.

just as many philosophycal works and material existed even b4 christ birth substantialbly, and will continue to exist long after you have decompose in d grave.

dalaman:


The non existent idea is responsible for so many ills in our society today and as such it bothers me. And yes it is a man made idea that is why you are here trying to defend it and explain it to others because the entire entity behind the idea is non existent and can never do anything on it's own because the idea lives only in your imaginations.

The particular "non existent idea" you are obsessed about is light in this dark world. Boko haram killed over 70 yesterday, i dont see you trying to "help" its followers out of their delusion. Your passion has absolutely nothing to do with humanity. If anything, your passion is against sanity.

@ bolded, you keep saying the same old thrash, its outdated.
Im here because of the picture below, to share my belief. You are here to share what? disbelief? i think not.

dalaman:


Did God complain to you that he doesn't like the blasphemous language he uses against him or are you just mad that the ideas you have been indoctrinated with is being challenged? If he blasphemes against your God then how is that your business? Will you ever allow this your God that is said to be alive and can do all things to respond by himself? When will you ever allow your God to do anything for himself?

No you sound mad talking about an idea that dosent exist. thats exactly what you're exhibiting. madness.

winner01:
Many people believe zombies and vampires are real. To me they dont exist.
I will be as "wise" as you are to devote my time to refuting their existence.

[b]

Now this is exactly the point, Just like i am not seeing them going about telling the public of some non-factual zombie orgy they believe in then i have no problem with them.

But once they start pouring the zombie stories to the public as truth, using threat of torture to ensure submission, indoctrinating children, manipulating laws of the state which i live in with the zombie stories, encroaching into my personal space then we have a serious problem because i "who know this not to be factual" will refute it, engage them and break down those disturbing tales being fed to the public...

I don't care what people believe in, they can worship a stone for all i care just don't throw that stone at me or tell me how to live so as not to offend your stone... That is the problem...

Dalaman, krystalzkris and menesheh i think much attention has been given to this baseless yarns, lets not derail this thread any further.... Its time you guys ignored this and move on with the thread ...[/b]

winner01:
Many people believe zombies and vampires are real. To me they dont exist.

I will be as "wise" as you are to devote my time to refuting their existence.

Have you ever seen somebody that absolute believe the factuality of zombie, vampire, and Bigfoot. I definitely know that you will jumb in to refute the idea if you ever meet someone that believe such, even if the person is not evangelizing and pushing you to the wall with such belief.

If i see no one to refute the bizarre idea of god and jesus, i will be like you by not refuting anything with anybody. But here we are, you're busy day and night propagating, coaxing and spoon feeding people with a concept that bears similar characteristics with the zombie stories (zero evidence outside the book or movie that's hosting such stories).

For the people you claimed are beleivers in vampire, they derive their evidence of the reality of vampire in the books they read or in the movie they watch. Same with you, you believe the reality of god and his son jesus from a book you read. You will be accusing people that believe in zombie of not meeting up with the ideas intrinsic to your own book while those zombieists will accuse you for not follow-up with the ideas intrinsic to their own belief.

How do we go about finding out which one is true: evidence, critical examination, critical thinking, consistency, logic, substantiation etc

winner01:
You are a confused entity. You just choose to hang around here, why
@bolded, thats a confused comment, i dont see you in churches and people have so much fun in God's presence. What fun have you brought here, Using curse or blasphemous languages against God;-\, Doesn't sound like fun, sounds like hate. We only feel you need help thats why some of us chose to reply.
We only had morals too because its an idea passed down to our generation dont you think.

you know what? I won't pick on ur skydaddy again on this thread,we are already derailing.. U can go ahead and console him for the pain i have made him feel... Lmao... Mind u,morals existed long before the existence of ur christian god..

johnydon22:
[b]

Now this is exactly the point, Just like i am not seeing them going about telling the public of some non-factual zombie orgy they believe in then i have no problem with them.

But once they start pouring the zombie stories to the public as truth, using threat of torture to ensure submission, indoctrinating children, manipulating laws of the state which i live in with the zombie stories, encroaching into my personal space then we have a serious problem because i "who know this not to be factual" will refute it, engage them and break down those disturbing tales being fed to the public...

I don't care what people believe in, they can worship a stone for all i care just don't throw that stone at me or tell me how to live so as not to offend your stone... That is the problem...

Dalaman, krystalzkris and menesheh i think much attention has been given to this baseless yarns, lets not derail this thread any further.... Its time you guys ignored this and move on with the thread ...[/b]

For sometimes ago, i stopped responding and arguing baseless with the guy but started recently with the hope he had realized the crazy ideas he is hanging on his neck, so that we can now have a more decent talks about all these things but with what am seeing, gosh..

johnydon22:
[b]
..lol.. Is this another way of saying "Please stop picking on my sky daddy..." Gods are ideas and these ideas have a disturbing effect on our society, has a retarding effect on many people and affects me too by bringing people everyday encroaching into my personal space to rub their belief my face.

You know i don't engage in this type of Children's talk... anyway someone who doesn't play sports and criticizes sports in the sports section is not another type sports.

(Criticizing and refuting religious ideas is not synonymous training... Upgrade )

Even though i am under no obligation or owe anybody any explanation but i think i will demonstrate so you would drop this "Begging for sky daddy tactics" You should drop the victims, it's gone stale.

I don't Game, i think games have a disturbing effect on the life's of youths, Can you please recommend to me which section on NL where i can share and discuss that idea with Gamers?

Just derailed ifenese' thread, this is my last reply to this baseless talk that has no ground..
If you don't want atheists to refute the disturbing lethal mythologies your religion propagates, why not pray for them to stop..

Start praying now, am sure prayer works.... Unless you are not confident prayer works...[/b]

You and your long crappy epistles. Sport is not an idea, thats why i used the word "training".
Someone who criticizes sport does not criticize sport as an idea, he/she criticizes the sporting action he/she dosent subscribe to.
Maybe you should show me someone who spends his whole life criticizing sports,
You spend your life on religion section talking about religion, hell yeah, you are here to spread your belief and thats definately another "sport"

No one is saying "stop picking on the non existent idea", we are only saying "please get sense",

If people encroach in your personal space and you've come here to cry foul instead of addressing the issue right at the spot, you just a damn sneaky coward.
As a matter of fact, thats what y'all are.

No one wants you to stop, everything i did on this thread is to show you how you are here to share your belief

johnydon22:
[b]

Now this is exactly the point, Just like i am not seeing them going about telling the public of some non-factual zombie orgy they believe in then i have no problem with them.

But once they start pouring the zombie stories to the public as truth, using threat of torture to ensure submission, indoctrinating children, manipulating laws of the state which i live in with the zombie stories, encroaching into my personal space then we have a serious problem because i "who know this not to be factual" will refute it, engage them and break down those disturbing tales being fed to the public...

I don't care what people believe in, they can worship a stone for all i care just don't throw that stone at me or tell me how to live so as not to offend your stone... That is the problem...

Dalaman, krystalzkris and menesheh i think much attention has been given to this baseless yarns, lets not derail this thread any further.... Its time you guys ignored this and move on with the thread ...[/b]

If they throw that stone at you, address it right where its thrown at you, thats what is called being a man. Dont come here to cry.
This is the religion section where we share our beliefs, this is where we throw our stones among ourselves, you dont want the stone to hit you then get the f*ck out of here.

Thats right, call your subordinates to order, y'all are as mad as it gets.

.

menesheh:



Have you ever seen somebody that absolute believe the factuality of zombie, vampire, and Bigfoot. I definitely know that you will jumb in to refute the idea if you ever meet someone that believe such, even if the person is not evangelizing and pushing you to the wall with such belief.

If i see no one to refute the bizarre idea of god and jesus, i will be like you by not refuting anything with anybody. But here we are, you're busy day and night propagating, coaxing and spoon feeding people with a concept that bears similar characteristics with the zombie stories (zero evidence outside the book or movie that's hosting such stories).

For the people you claimed are beleivers in vampire, they derive their evidence of the reality of vampire in the books they read or in the movie they watch. Same with you, you believe the reality of god and his son jesus from a book you read. You will be accusing people that believe in zombie of not meeting up with the ideas intrinsic to your own book while those zombieists will accuse you for not follow-up with the ideas intrinsic to their own belief.

How do we go about finding out which one is true: evidence, critical examination, critical thinking, consistency, logic, substantiation etc

yawns* Ive seen people who believe in sango, ogun, ahmadioha and others and they pass it down to their children, i dont refute their existence. I only pray for them, ive been able to lead some to christ. Whats your aim, that i shouldnt believe with you

winner01:
You and your long crappy epistles. Sport is not an idea, thats why i used the word "training".
Someone who criticizes sport does not criticize sport as an idea, he/she criticizes the sporting action he/she dosent subscribe to.
Maybe you should show me someone who spends his whole life criticizing sports,
You spend your life on religion section talking about religion, hell yeah, you are here to spread your belief and thats definately another "sport"

No one is saying "stop picking on the non existent idea", we are only saying "please get sense",

If people encroach in your personal space and you've come here to cry foul instead of addressing the issue right at the spot, you just a damn sneaky coward.
As a matter of fact, thats what y'all are.

No one wants you to stop, everything i did on this thread is to show you how you are here to share your belief

am sorry but I might have to call u a slowpoke.

Krystalzkris:
you know what? I won't pick on ur skydaddy again on this thread,we are already derailing.. U can go ahead and console him for the pain i have made him feel... Lmao... Mind u,morals existed long before the existence of ur christian god..

Run along, little princess'

krattoss:
am sorry but I might have to call u a slowpoke.

Yeah, i know sanity is wrong to atheists.

winner01:
yawns* Ive seen people who believe in sango, ogun, ahmadioha and others and they pass it down to their children, i dont refute their existence. I only pray for them, ive been able to lead some to christ. Whats your aim, that i shouldnt believe with you

It is now sango and amadioha.
I will not pray for you for living your life and making your life decisions based on a deluded book. I would rather put you down and refute the bizarre ideas in order for you to realize your lack of good reasons and justifications for believing such.

menesheh:


It is now sango and amadioha.
I will not pray for you for living your life and making your life decisions based on a deluded book. I would rather put you down and refute the bizarre ideas in order for you to realize your lack of good reasons and justifications for believing such.

All you've done is solidify my faith man, the Bible spoke of god-haters, i wondered what it meant and then you kept making me believe it.
I wonder how it peeped into the future if it was just a book.

winner01:
All you've done is solidify my faith man, the Bible spoke of god-haters, i wondered what it meant and then you kept making me believe it.
I wonder how it peeped into the future if it was just a book.

From you, there is this evidence of religiosity and IQ level manifesting here.

dalaman:


Perfect response . Please winner01, if you believe that what ever you ask for will be done according to what Jesus promised you guys in the bible, why don't you just pray to your God and make him shut us up. If you are confident that prayers work, just pray and ask this God of yours to shut up us, he can create a NL account and ban us all, since yo guys claim he can do all things.

gud 1 bro

dalaman:


Perfect response . Please winner01, if you believe that what ever you ask for will be done according to what Jesus promised you guys in the bible, why don't you just pray to your God and make him shut us up. If you are confident that prayers work, just pray and ask this God of yours to shut up us, he can create a NL account and ban us all, since yo guys claim he can do all things.

his god is busy now he is preparing for barbecue

winner01:
The particular "non existent idea" you are obsessed about is light in this dark world. Boko haram killed over 70 yesterday, i dont see you trying to "help" its followers out of their delusion. Your passion has absolutely nothing to do with humanity. If anything, your passion is against sanity.

@ bolded, you keep saying the same old thrash, its outdated.
Im here because of the picture below, to share my belief. You are here to share what? disbelief? i think not.

Since you are so mad and angry that we are here then why don't you just pray to your God to shut us up? Tell him to create a NL account and ban us all so that we will stop coming to blaspheme against him and lead other astray, please pray and tell your God to shut us up for goodDo that please if you truly believe in the rubbish you keep spewing daily.

ODUBEZE:

Hmmm, okay U have gotten my attention.
I hope it will be worth my time.
@Ifeness, It was because of people like you that this scripture was written - But Jesus told them, "Moses wrote this
commandment for you because your hearts were
hard." Mark 10:5.
to start with I am surprise really that deeper life listened to your teachings aside that of KUMUYI because all your teachings I suppose negates all that Deeper Life stands for. ( I stand to be corrected by members of deeper life)
A point of correction however is your knowledge vs Obama knowledge of scriptures as you claim does not mean that U know the right application!
Even the devil quotes the scriptures. That is a topic for another day.
So before I go further, I would like to remind U that all my teachings are scripturally based. Hence, my very point of reference.
Can U please give proper references to your claims above?
May God enlighten us better as we move forward.

Na,the book you call the scripture stole its stories from other religion and legends.For a detailed comparison of Noah's Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic. If you read the bible,you will notice there are many gaps between its stories

Consider the case of Sargon’s birth. Legend has it that Sargon was placed in a reed basket and sent down the river by his mother. He was rescued by Aqqi, who then adopted him as his own son. That sounds a lot like the story of Moses doesn't it?

And Sargon lived about 800 years before Moses was born. So the Moses baby-sent-down-the-river-only-to-be-rescued-and-adopted story must have been borrowed from Sargon, right?

Look at the story of Samson. Do you really think present day Jewish people have locks or where can you find Lions presently on the planet? Its been observed that the lions that only existed was the ones the Romans imported from Africa via ships.You should endeavor to read the bible into details and not by faith. Faith is the absence of knowledge. And if you really do read your whooly book,you would have lots of questions.

dalaman:


Since you are so mad and angry that we are here then why don't you just pray to your God to shut us up? Tell him to create a NL account and ban us all so that we will stop coming to blaspheme against him and lead other astray, please pray and tell your God to shut us up for goodDo that please if you truly believe in the rubbish you keep spewing daily.

No one is angry dolt, we just wonder why you hate Him so much.
We wont pray for Him to shut u up, we are not as myopic as you are, we see the bigger picture. we will pray you find mercy and grace, thats what you all need.

menesheh:



From you, there is this evidence of religiosity and IQ level manifesting here.

Your god johny has called u to order, i suggest you hearken to his words before he gets angry with you.

winner01:
No one is angry dolt, we just wonder why you hate Him so much.
We wont pray for Him to shut u up, we are not as myopic as you are, we see the bigger picture. we will pray you find mercy and grace, thats what you all need.

You've complained enough already for anyone to know that you are mad and angry at us for challenging your indoctrinated beliefs. I don't hate any God because non exist, I just like poking holes and dealing with you God believers because you guys exist while your God ideas don't. Can't you see that you are the one doing all the talking and explanation of behalf of your God, you do so because your God exist only in your head and imaginations that is why you are talking on it's behalf.

ifeness:


Na,the book you call the scripture stole its stories from other religion and legends.For a detailed comparison of Noah's Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic. If you read the bible,you will notice there are many gaps between its stories

Consider the case of Sargon’s birth. Legend has it that Sargon was placed in a reed basket and sent down the river by his mother. He was rescued by Aqqi, who then adopted him as his own son. That sounds a lot like the story of Moses doesn't it?

And Sargon lived about 800 years before Moses was born. So the Moses baby-sent-down-the-river-only-to-be-rescued-and-adopted story must have been borrowed from Sargon, right?

Look at the story of Samson. Do you really think present day Jewish people have locks or where can you find Lions presently on the planet? Its been observed that the lions that only existed was the ones the Romans imported from Africa via ships.You should endeavor to read the bible into details and not by faith. Faith is the absence of knowledge. And if you really do read your whooly book,you would have lots of questions.

Ifeness I am surprised at you oooo? Is this how you give your teachings? you jump from one thing to another even without addressing the initial one!
I still maintain my stance in response to your first article that you as a bible scholar which is what you claim provide me your scriptural references before we move further.
May God bless His words in our hearts. Amen!

ODUBEZE:

Ifeness I am surprised at you oooo? Is this how you give your teachings? you jump from one thing to another even without addressing the initial one!
I still maintain my stance in response to your first article that you as a bible scholar which is what you claim provide me your scriptural references before we move further.
May God bless His words in our hearts. Amen!

You mean a Bible reference....Well I have given a lot in my previous thread. I gave examples of Bible verses that seemed not to be original.

There are lots of contradictions,lots of erroneous and barbaric morals which have no use in our society.

Take for example 2kings 2:23-24

“And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.”

I guess if you are the bald man, the death of those who made fun of you for something you can’t help is a miracle, but it really isn’t fair to the kids.

The reason we cannot even legally drink until we 21 on many countries or 18 in some part is because children’s brains are not even totally developed until they are 21. god made us right? He is all knowing… so doesn’t he know they were just using their underdeveloped child brains to make the stupid decision of making fun of a chosen one of god? I mean, if anything, it is god’s fault that they made fun of the man. He made them to have underdeveloped brains!

This is just one example of the many absolutely insane things that are written in the bible.There is no such thing as reading a book with the guidance of the holy spirit. Read with curiosity and maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer.

winner01:
No one is angry dolt, we just wonder why you hate Him so much.
We wont pray for Him to shut u up, we are not as myopic as you are, we see the bigger picture. we will pray you find mercy and grace, thats what you all need.

Since you love him so much,I hope you do not fail to stone your wayward kids as he commanded you.

ifeness:


Since you love him so much,I hope you do not fail to stone your wayward kids as he commanded you.

Lol, Jesus came to show us how to live, to show us that we can be perfect. He said "Be ye perfect
that is what we strive towards as christians.

@ bolded, He has a new convenant withbus and a new commandment too, here it is;

"But a new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another."

Love love love!!!, Our God is Love

ifeness:


You mean a Bible reference....Well I have given a lot in my previous thread. I gave examples of Bible verses that seemed not to be original.

There are lots of contradictions,lots of erroneous and barbaric morals which have no use in our society.

Take for example 2kings 2:23-24

“And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.”

I guess if you are the bald man, the death of those who made fun of you for something you can’t help is a miracle, but it really isn’t fair to the kids.

The reason we cannot even legally drink until we 21 on many countries or 18 in some part is because children’s brains are not even totally developed until they are 21. god made us right? He is all knowing… so doesn’t he know they were just using their underdeveloped child brains to make the stupid decision of making fun of a chosen one of god? I mean, if anything, it is god’s fault that they made fun of the man. He made them to have underdeveloped brains!

This is just one example of the many absolutely insane things that are written in the bible.There is no such thing as reading a book with the guidance of the holy spirit. Read with curiosity and maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer.

Ifeness, can you calm yourself for once? Relax!
You are just mixing the whole thing up!
Okay. please follow these steps:
1. Go back to the first article you wrote where my name was mentioned.
2. Are you there?
3. Good!
4. Now, give me biblical references of all the claims you made there.
I pray for God guidance as we continue.