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TonyeBarcanista:
The Ndokis(Ijaws) only came in contact with Igbos in Umunoha, Owerri and Ndizurogu.


I am not the narrator, it is the people that is telling their origin. We always allow people speak for themselves.

TonyeBarcanista:
Contrary to the belief by some of my Igbo cousins, I have neither bashed their tribe nor am I 'dragging' land with them. I as an Okrikan will not go to Ndoki n Rivers state to sing their Ijawness to them. It is they that will decide their Ijaw heritage and descendency themselves. I am 100% certain that every true son and daughter of Ijaw know their root.

Please, I don't want to argue over this. This thread is for enlightenment to those that may not know.

I love you all and good morning.

TonyeBarcanista:
Wikipedia without a backed verified source is as thrashy as any uninformed post on joke section. Wiki isn't an acceptable academic reference. Sorry..

Truckpusher:
I have vowed not to engage these people anymore , leave them alone - let them run along with their warped ideologies that are tainted with lies from the pit of hell.

Simply put , some people have refused to learn from history and that would be their ultimate downfall.

Vicotex:
i go take d OP serious if only he fit go NDOKI land then repeat those diabolic words "Ndoki are Ijaw", weda dem no use use his skull as keg

Yujin:
We have learnt from history and we won't repeat the mistake again. May I know your tribe in Rivers state?

fastestfinger:
bro,the ijaws in bonny and opobo are immigrants who were allowed to stay as traders and potters.IGBO is the language of choice in those two towns...AM BEGINNING TO THINK ITS TIME WE FOCUS ON THIS IJAW LAND GRABBERS CUM EXPANSIONIST AND PUT THEM IN THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE ONCE AND FOR ALL!!

Observant:
Strangers misconceptions of the igbo people in the niger-delta region/South-South region.

There is the horrible misconception by people who know very little to nothing about the igbo groups in these regions. (Namely The Etche, Ekpeye, Ndoki, Adoni, Ikwerre etc)
I am an igbo man from enugwu-ukwu( The name of Our land) in anambra state, we call ourseleves "ENUGWU" when we want to feel proud or when we interact with other igbo people. This is the same for the Arondi-izuogu(The name of there land) poeple of IMO state who called themselves "IZUOGU", same as the Onitcha man who would sometimes call himself "NWA ONYE ONITCHA" and called you "NWA ONYE IGBO".
As you can see, every igbo man comes from a group like the ones from the niger-delta region but we all know we are Igbo people.

The people who are at the forefront of this divide and rule scheme in this country are seriously trying there best to tell these Niger delta region group igbo that they are not igbos thereby trying to convert the names they call there gruop to there tribe or worse cases distort there history. Thats why you hear thngs like Ndoki is not igbo, Does it mean that ndoki is now a tribe?
This is exactly what was sold to the Ikwerres whom there brother Nkwerre are comfortably seated in IMO state as regular Igbo people but them the ikwerres (though a large number still know they are igbo people) now want to be identified as a tribe.
This also unrelated to the fact that they want to be attached to (Our OYEL) with no baggage of the entire Igbo race.

To this stranger and miscreants if i wake up tomorrow and decide to be called "Enugwu", then i cease to be igbo. (How convienent especially when there is OUR OYEL to scream from the roof tops.)



On the Issue of Biafra, it is very obviuos that the country our forefathers fought for in the 60s comprising of different ethnic groups Igbo,Izon, Ibibio, Efik, Annang, Itsekiri, Isoko, Urhobo,etc will as at today not work as one united country, this might be bitter but sadly true but look at it from the bright side, no one wants a mini Nigeria and more especially with people hardwired to (OUR OYEL).
Nigeria is a fraudulent creation no doubt and any reasonable person would want to opt out of this union and the only way i see it happening is by mutual understand of the tribes that make up Biafra. A mutual understand to pull out of Nigeria the way we were before the marriage then categorically state that


1.) Every tribe shall go there separate ways at the actualization of the struggle.
2.) Every "Proudly" Igbo group who wishes to join The republic of Igboland shall do so with there people and there Lands.

3.) If other tribe namely (Izon, Ibibio, Efik, Annang, Itsekiri, Isoko, Urhobo) wishes to form ther own country (which i consider another nigeria but really it isn't my business), they can do so.

4.) Clear boundaries most the discussed and be a major priority.


In the absence of this understanding, then i urge my people to drop the biafra ambition which would probably be sabotaged again and join the Hause-Fulani and Yorubas in this game of thrones called Nigeria, we clear have the numbers to play but waste in on sentiments.

IGBOPRINCE:
my brother, we should stop seeing ijaws as cousins. We re not cousin. They don't know the meaning of cousin, they re our neighbours who can turn to our enemies tomorrow,the lands they occupied in ph is due to igbos abandoned properties and lands saga, they gained entry to claimed ph today due to abandoned lands and properties saga in the 60s,
however,this ijaws people re not our cousin, They re too black like the ghanians,and we igbos re different from them.

Pls it s time to protects oguta before tonyebarcanista and truckpusher lay claims to them.

Very confused set of people lol. We will help them out as big bro.

atbu1983:
When I say most nationalities in Niger delta including Ndoki,Ikwerre, ika, Anioma are descended of benin, all these Igbo land grabbers will start making noise. They dont know history.

I summary, there is no Igbo in Niger delta. You only have some nationalities who have interacted with Igbo for a long time and borrow some Igbo culture along the way. That does not make them Igbo.

Today we from edo state from benin understand the following fact and we accept it completely:
Ikwerre is Ikwerre. They are no longer Benin and where never Igbo.
Ika is Ika. They are no longer Benin and where never Igbo.
Anioma is Anioma. They are no longer Benin and where never Igbo.
Esan is Esan. they are no longer Benin.
Ndoki is Ndoki. They are no longer Benin and where never Igbo.
Urhobo is Urhobo. They are no longer benin.
Isoko is Isoko. they are no longer benin
Itsekiri is Itsekiri. they are no longer benin or yoruba

These niger delta nationalities are now developed enough to be a complete tribe of thier own.
The fact that they have common acestry from benin, does not mean they cant be a tribe of thier own.
After all we all came from Adam and Eve including Arab, chinese, europeans etc.

Igbo should allow these nationalities be. They are not Igbo but distinct nationalities.
Igbo should grow up and move on.

Fulani, yoruba, Igbo, chinese are all product of adam and eve. but today are distinct nationalities.
Therefore all niger Delta ethnic nationalities are distinct nationalities.

Igbo please leave Niger delta alone

Eastlink:
Speak for yourself Land thief. Your land grabbing and ethnic identity tactics have been exposed on numerous occasion here, yet your repulsive attitude wont want you to call it a day. It's high time patriotic Igbos rally round and put these Edo people in check. End every diplomacy with them and give it to them so hot in a language that they will understand. You can never please these folks. The chanters of 'we South-South' will not learn until you take a cue from the Hausas and Yorubas. The Odua'a nation comes close to my heart for one thing, and that is it's ruthlessness against these land grabbers. Itshekiriland and Owo(Ondo) are no go areas for them that is why keep cleaving eastside.

atbu1983:
When I say most nationalities in Niger delta including Ndoki,Ikwerre, ika, Anioma are descended of benin, all these Igbo land grabbers will start making noise. They dont know history.

I summary, there is no Igbo in Niger delta. You only have some nationalities who have interacted with Igbo for a long time and borrow some Igbo culture along the way. That does not make them Igbo.

Today we from edo state from benin understand the following fact and we accept it completely:
Ikwerre is Ikwerre. They are no longer Benin and where never Igbo.
Ika is Ika. They are no longer Benin and where never Igbo.
Anioma is Anioma. They are no longer Benin and where never Igbo.
Esan is Esan. they are no longer Benin.
Ndoki is Ndoki. They are no longer Benin and where never Igbo.
Urhobo is Urhobo. They are no longer benin.
Isoko is Isoko. they are no longer benin
Itsekiri is Itsekiri. they are no longer benin or yoruba

These niger delta nationalities are now developed enough to be a complete tribe of thier own.
The fact that they have common acestry from benin, does not mean they cant be a tribe of thier own.
After all we all came from Adam and Eve including Arab, chinese, europeans etc.

Igbo should allow these nationalities be. They are not Igbo but distinct nationalities.
Igbo should grow up and move on.

Fulani, yoruba, Igbo, chinese are all product of adam and eve. but today are distinct nationalities.
Therefore all niger Delta ethnic nationalities are distinct nationalities.

Igbo please leave Niger delta alone

TonyeBarcanista:
Wikipedia without a backed verified source is as thrashy as any uninformed post on joke section. Wiki isn't an acceptable academic reference. Sorry..

ocelot2006:
That's true.

juicee1:
igbo is just a language spoken by different tribes. Why do you think there's much disunity among the SE people with each being clannish? Nigeria and ojukwu made them see themselves as one under an umbrella called ibo. The other ibo speaking tribes in the SS are equivalent to africans and the world over speaking english but aren't british.

juicee1:
I saw no discussion there, not even likes up to 5 in the post on there. That page doesn't speak for Ndoki.

Ndoki is not ibo but ijaw. Swallow the bitter pill.

ocelot2006:
That's true.

TonyeBarcanista:
CC:
Truckpusher Dearpreye IzonOwei Goodboiy HopeAtHand Forwetinnah Talktimi etc FYI pls.


*This thread was created to put a lie to some threads that recently sprang up*

#TakeMyBow

TonyeBarcanista:
THE BRIEF HISTORICAL ORIGIN OF NDOKI ETHNIC NATIONALITY AND THE CREATION OF UKWA EAST LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREA.

The origin of Ndoki in the 15th Centuries is traced to civil war that broke out in the then powerful Benin Kingdom. This war caused total division of the old Benin Kingdom as series of migrants departed to the East. One of the Migratory groups was the Ijo who settled around Akassa. A part of these group left Akassa towards the Northwards along the Egenni and Orashi Rivers to Oguta. Along the line, they came in contact with the Ibo town of Umunoha in Owerri and Ndizuorgu in the former Orlu Division.

The emigrants pushed southwards settling at Okolomakiri in Azumini creek. They moved from there to a site, now, occupied by Umuagbayi. It was here they broke into two groups. One section to a placed called Okoloma (land of the curlew birds) that later became known as Obani or Bonny. The other section remained behind on the site known as Umuagbayi, Azuogu, Ayama and Obunku.

Part of the emigrants who reached Bonny, retraced their steps back to Opobo along the Imo Rivers and settled or traded with earlier co-emigrants.
It is a truism that going by the migratory era in this context Ndoki people are ancestrally, biologically and anthropologically linked with the Ijos who migrated with them when the war broke out in Ancient Benin Kingdom. Our culture, tradition and practices are explicit and clear on our origin.

It was on the strength of this coupled with struggle for political space that the uncompromised quest to realize a separate or delineated environment where Ndoki and its traits will be noticed and respected propelled our founding fathers to opt for creation of a local government. Thus Ukwa East Local Government Area came into being in 1992 from the defunct Ukwa Local Government Area.

The initiators and proponents of its creation saw it as a meaningful objectives and welcome development hence it proffered diversified opportunities to complement the effort of our ancestors where distinct origin, ideas, values, knowledge, institution, belief, socio-economic and political environment would be homogenously provided to synthesize the practice of our common good which refers to as “a social state which guarantees each person his/her rightful place in a community in which he/she can freely develop his/her God-given talent to attain bodily, spiritual and moral perfection and become richer in internal and external goods through his/her services to the community”. The geo-political formation of Ukwa East in particular meant to depend upon this was targeted at drawing the attention of National and state governments to the backwardness of Ndoki land primarily occasioned by marginalization coming only from their politically induced self-development.

This is why it is unacceptable and should be discouraged especially when often times, most of the projects the dominant people in the position of trust managed to site at Ndoki land in Ukwa East are subsumed under Ukwa West Local Government this anti-delineation practice orchestrated by NDDCs administrative Map has continued to attract criticism and condemnation by those who understand the classification.


This was an Excerpt of a piece on a special report titles ..
Special Report: The Position And Marginalization Of Ndoki Ethnic Nationality

Written and compiled by:
Comrade Henry O. Nwaigwe
Youth Coordinator
Ndoki Youth Federation and
Ohuru Youth Grand Alliance
08062836738.
www.chidioparareports..co.ke/2014/09/special-report-position-and_2.html?m=1

I dare anyone to provide any historical literature that goes against this. I want to maintain that Ndokis are 100% Ijaws. The Ndokis in Rivers know this. Those in Abia though realise this but having mixed with the Igbos, I will hold my piece.

Observant:
Strangers misconceptions of the igbo people in the niger-delta region/South-South region.

There is the horrible misconception by people who know very little to nothing about the igbo groups in these regions. (Namely The Etche, Ekpeye, Ndoki, Adoni, Ikwerre etc)

atbu1983:
When I say most nationalities in Niger delta including Ndoki,Ikwerre, ika, Anioma are descended of benin, all these Igbo land grabbers will start making noise. They dont know history.

I summary, there is no Igbo in Niger delta. You only have some nationalities who have interacted with Igbo for a long time and borrow some Igbo culture along the way. That does not make them Igbo.

IGBOPRINCE:
my brother, we should stop seeing ijaws as cousins. We re not cousin. They don't know the meaning of cousin, they re our neighbours who can turn to our enemies tomorrow,the lands they occupied in ph is due to igbos abandoned properties and lands saga, they gained entry to claimed ph today due to abandoned lands and properties saga in the 60s,
however,this ijaws people re not our cousin, They re too black like the ghanians,and we igbos re different from them.

Pls it s time to protects oguta before tonyebarcanista and truckpusher lay claims to them.

Very confused set of people lol. We will help them out as big bro.

Abagworo:
Phenotypicaly Igbos don't look like Ijaws. Funny enough like Duru1 rightly pointed out Ijaws look like Ghanians. They are extremely dark as against Igbos that are mostly brown or light. The so-called Rivers Ijaw are but mostly Igbos or blend of Igbo, Ijaw and Ibibio. The Ijaws amongst them are easily noticeable from their extreme dark skin.

TonyeBarcanista:
This was an Excerpt of a piece on a special report titles ..
Special Report: The Position And Marginalization Of Ndoki Ethnic Nationality

Written and compiled by:
Comrade Henry O. Nwaigwe
Youth Coordinator
Ndoki Youth Federation and
Ohuru Youth Grand Alliance
08062836738.
www.chidioparareports..co.ke/2014/09/special-report-position-and_2.html?m=1

I dare anyone to provide any historical literature that goes against this. I want to maintain that Ndokis are 100% Ijaws. The Ndokis in Rivers know this. Those in Abia though realise this but having mixed with the Igbos, I will hold my piece.