Lots of half bakies in here will still justify why they have been found so unworthy both in learning and in character.

permanentgrace:
That No. 6 annoys me the most. You see a guy who supposedly claim to be a graduate and yet lacks the gut to approach a fellow graduate female counterpart and start a convo. with her. Rather, you see him running around with small small illiterate girls hawking plantains and groundnut in the street. Are you afraid of the female graduates?

How does that make him half-baked? You don't have a point.

Life is a matter of choice. He might be sewing his cloths according to his size. He mightn't have the money to finance a female graduate @ that time or might be trying to cut down cost.

Watch out the same guy when he has the money, he will even go after a female medical doctor.

Money has a way of building your confidence.

God bless this OP. I know computer engineers who can't build a faulty PC even if all the PC components of are given to them with detailed description of their functions.

jetabs:
Bros...as much as I would love to give a thumbs up for your write up...I think u are off d point at some point...wo tell u say na how to replace engine oil mechanical engineers det go learn for university...I studied mech engg and u can do some of those cos I was opportuned to learn dem outta schl...ability to do the work of a technical personnel cant be the basis of judging an engineer...I'll forgive you cos u probably dnt knw hw d engineering system operates

what's the purpose of a mechanical engineer if he can't troubleshoot and repair/replace the damaged parts of a machine. I blame the sch system - they are only good at theory but lack practical expertise. The wise one among the students acquire the technical skills outside the wall of the sch

Number 4 is so dumb. Same reason I feel the Op is half baked too. We mechanical engineers should slap confused and lazy people like the Op that mechanical engineering is not all about automobiles. Am one and I hate automotive option like mad. I prefer design, refrigeration and PPC

Ramos16:


Most of what you say a plain rubbish... what you have said simply means you have not passed through a Nigerian university, or you are a first or second year student.

I am going to scrutinize each one of your points to show you how they fail woefully

Point Number:

1) PART OF SPEECH: If I ask you how many part of speech you know and use consciously, I bet it won't be more than 3, Noun, Pronoun and maybe verbs..... This is a very useless point, can you remember how to solve quadratic equations using Completing the Square problem, or calculate the distance and time between two points on the globe using Longitude and Latitude as ref? If you can't solve it without consulting a book or the internet, then you also are halved baked cos you have been doing maths since kindergarten

2) READING: I do not think there is no graduate that "can't" read more than two pages... If they find it stressful its a whole different thing, but to say they can't because of the level of education.. well, if at all it will apply to like 0.0000000000000000001% of the graduate population.

3) and 4) MECHANICAL ENGINEERING & ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING: This is plain stupid, the fact that you can't understand that number 3 and 4 belong to the same category and should be treated as one number is dumb of you, plus this point should not apply to only those two, it should go as far as the whole possible courses offered in the university. Your lack of understanding of what goes on in the Engineering faculty can be pardoned if you are not an Engineer. Engineering goes far beyond Fixing light bulbs or fixing your own car, what do you expect of an Mech Engineer who specialized in Thermodynamics or Air Conditioning (PS: for those who don't know Air conditioning does not imply just to that your home appliance), or an Electrical Engineer who specialized in Telecommunication or Computer, I studies Electrical and Specialized in Telecoms.

If you are to make that a point, you should talk about things that are really related to that persons course, like an Electrical Engineer not being to analyze and build a circuit or a Mechanical Engineer not being able to develop a prototype for an Engineer, things are related to the actual/specific thing they have studied, I am not saying that a Nigerian graduate should know all these, because in the University in Nigeria, nobody trains you that way, so you can't blame them.

This point applies to Computer Scientist who can't write a simple program, or medical doctors who can't perform surgery, these things take time, and it is after graduation that you are expected to develop the skills..

5) Inability to Teach Others Mtchewww, Don't you have lecturers that can't teach, do you think everybody was built to teach?

6) Confidence : Confidence is a whole different skills, it is not learnt in school, it is virtue of the way an individual is brought up, its psychology.. so no point here

7) Cant' Read and Write: This point is the same as number 2)

Can's User MS Word: I don't know why this is a point, but I can't argue with you on this, but trust me anybody is excused if they can't use MS Word, you think say na everybody get money like your father to afford a computer?

9) Discussing in Beer Parlours: Firstly I totally love beer parlours, secondly, I believe there are cultist who are first class graduates and lecturers seff, its low of them to keep on discussing of such things, but it does not mean they are half baked.

10) Watching Porn and Chatting with girls: I do not see how the Blackberry or Iphone strengthen this argument, so I removed them, about watching porn, well I can be the CEO of Shell and watch porn and also chat with random girls, nobody grows beyond chatting with new girls.

I wanted to like this 10 times but nairaland wouldn't allow me...
BEST WRITE UP SO FAR

Rapmoney:
The Ivory Tower is supposed to be a place where one is expected to be well-grounded with the ability to present oneself to the outside world in the best possible way. This is the same reason why people in the eastern parts of Nigeria refer to it as 'Mahadum' which literarily means 'Know it all'.

It is so pathetic to come to terms with the fact that the reverse is the case as can be seen in most graduates today in our society! Below are some signs to show that someone who passed through the Ivory Tower could still be a half-baked graduate! :

1) You can't apply the uses of the 8 Parts of Speech in speaking and writing. Some Engineering and Science graduates would tell you that this isn't important because these are not part of their course of study! What an unforgiveable fallacy!!! So what have you been doing during your primary and secondary school days? I know very well that 'Parts of Speech' is the foundation of English as far as the subject is concerned. So, it means you have not been serious all those years to learn the foundation of communication!!! Whether you like it or not, English is the lingua-franca in Nigeria and if you can't communicate fluently in it, you are a half-baked graduate!!!

2) You can't read beyond two pages of a book. Reading is basically one of the various ways of learning so if you can't read beyond two pages of a book, I seriously wonder how you managed to pass your courses in the university! There are graduates who complain frequently about a 20-line write-up being too lengthy to read...they are many on this forum! The truth is that you would definitely miss out on vital information if you have this character and you are no better than a half-baked graduate!!! Quote me if you like!

3) You studied Mechanical Engineering yet you still take your car to the mechanic workshop to change common engine oil and other little things!

4) You studied Elect/Elect, yet you can't even change as simple as a lamp holder in your house! You are a half-baked graduate!!!

5) You can't teach others! If you can't transfer the knowledge and skills you claimed to have acquired in school to others, it surely makes you a half-bakie!!! . If the 'illiterate' carpenter or welder can transfer his knowledge and skills to others, what stops you from doing same as an 'educated' person? Every graduate should have the ability to teach. You would be shocked when you see how some graduates of Political Science teach Government in the schools where they are undertaking their NYSC primary assignment! . Some don't even know the meaning of a constitution!

6) You are a half-baked graduate if you still lack confidence in conversing intelligently and creating relationships with fellow ambitious and enlightened graduates like you!!! Stop chasing small street girls that hawk one thing or the other and go for your class if you know you are 'good-to-go'

7) You are a half-baked graduate if you still cannot read and write efficiently! As funny as it sounds, some 'graduates' can't read and write as learned folks! Maybe, you need to be enrolled in Reception Class in a nursery school where you can learn the basics of reading and writing

8. You are a half-baked graduate if you cannot use Microsoft Word! We will forgive you if you don't know any other basics in ICT but not Microsoft Word!!! In this modern time? Who go type CV and edit for you?

9) You are a half-baked graduate if you still sit joblessly in beer parlours, enthusiastically discussing secret cult escapades you had in school while your mates are busy building their careers in Agip and Exxon Mobil!!!

10) You are a half-baked graduate if all you could do with your BlackBerry and Iphone6 is to download numerous porn movies and chat with random girls!!!

Peace! One love!!!

For you to include item 3. and 4. in your list, you are a half-baked graduate!

Ramos16:


Most of what you say a plain rubbish... what you have said simply means you have not passed through a Nigerian university, or you are a first or second year student.

I am going to scrutinize each one of your points to show you how they fail woefully

Point Number:

1) PART OF SPEECH: If I ask you how many part of speech you know and use consciously, I bet it won't be more than 3, Noun, Pronoun and maybe verbs..... This is a very useless point, can you remember how to solve quadratic equations using Completing the Square problem, or calculate the distance and time between two points on the globe using Longitude and Latitude as ref? If you can't solve it without consulting a book or the internet, then you also are halved baked cos you have been doing maths since kindergarten

2) READING: I do not think there is no graduate that "can't" read more than two pages... If they find it stressful its a whole different thing, but to say they can't because of the level of education.. well, if at all it will apply to like 0.0000000000000000001% of the graduate population.

3) and 4) MECHANICAL ENGINEERING & ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING: This is plain stupid, the fact that you can't understand that number 3 and 4 belong to the same category and should be treated as one number is dumb of you, plus this point should not apply to only those two, it should go as far as the whole possible courses offered in the university. Your lack of understanding of what goes on in the Engineering faculty can be pardoned if you are not an Engineer. Engineering goes far beyond Fixing light bulbs or fixing your own car, what do you expect of an Mech Engineer who specialized in Thermodynamics or Air Conditioning (PS: for those who don't know Air conditioning does not imply just to that your home appliance), or an Electrical Engineer who specialized in Telecommunication or Computer, I studies Electrical and Specialized in Telecoms.

If you are to make that a point, you should talk about things that are really related to that persons course, like an Electrical Engineer not being to analyze and build a circuit or a Mechanical Engineer not being able to develop a prototype for an Engineer, things are related to the actual/specific thing they have studied, I am not saying that a Nigerian graduate should know all these, because in the University in Nigeria, nobody trains you that way, so you can't blame them.

This point applies to Computer Scientist who can't write a simple program, or medical doctors who can't perform surgery, these things take time, and it is after graduation that you are expected to develop the skills..

5) Inability to Teach Others Mtchewww, Don't you have lecturers that can't teach, do you think everybody was built to teach?

6) Confidence : Confidence is a whole different skills, it is not learnt in school, it is virtue of the way an individual is brought up, its psychology.. so no point here

7) Cant' Read and Write: This point is the same as number 2)

Can's User MS Word: I don't know why this is a point, but I can't argue with you on this, but trust me anybody is excused if they can't use MS Word, you think say na everybody get money like your father to afford a computer?

9) Discussing in Beer Parlours: Firstly I totally love beer parlours, secondly, I believe there are cultist who are first class graduates and lecturers seff, its low of them to keep on discussing of such things, but it does not mean they are half baked.

10) Watching Porn and Chatting with girls: I do not see how the Blackberry or Iphone strengthen this argument, so I removed them, about watching porn, well I can be the CEO of Shell and watch porn and also chat with random girls, nobody grows beyond chatting with new girls.

There is no need arguing with you! First, your post is filled with silly grammatical errors!!! Again, your post has no weight because it is dumb! In fact, you just proved yourself to be worse than a half-baked graduate and an ignoramus!!! Go and learn something useful before you quote me! Orue!!!

herrdeustch:

For you to include item 3. and 4. in your list, you are a half-baked graduate!

You are worse than a half-baked graduate! Orue!!!

Rapmoney:
There is no need arguing with you! First, your post is filled with silly grammatical errors!!! Again, your post has no weight because it is dumb! In fact, you just proved yourself to be worse than a half-baked graduate and an ignoramus!!! Go and learn something useful before you quote me! Orue!!!

Ramos16 please, ignore him. He, evidently isn't use to critical thinking

Rapmoney:
There is no need arguing with you! First, your post is filled with silly grammatical errors!!! Again, your post has no weight because it is dumb! In fact, you just proved yourself to be worse than a half-baked graduate and an ignoramus!!! Go and learn something useful before you quote me! Orue!!!

Ramos16 please, ignore him. He, evidently isn't use to critical thinking

Donpressman:
Number 4 is so dumb. Same reason I feel the Op is half baked too. We mechanical engineers should slap confused and lazy people like the Op that mechanical engineering is not all about automobiles. Am one and I hate automotive option like mad. I prefer design, refrigeration and PPC

If u are thoroughly checked, it would be discovered that you are even worse than a half-baked graduate!

butanep:


How does that make him half-baked? You don't have a point.

Life is a matter of choice. He might be sewing his cloths according to his size. He mightn't have the money to finance a female graduate @ that time or might be trying to cut down cost.

Watch out the same guy when he has the money, he will even go after a female medical doctor.

Money has a way of building your confidence.

So to you, female graduates are all about money? How about men who are neither graduates nor rich but still date and marry these female graduates? If you are one of those guys lacking confidence to approach these ladies, i would suggest you redefine your worth. That's how you may end up marrying one of those small small girls selling plantain and groundnut in the street cos till you fall in love and impregnate them, you wont even know. Go for what you know you worth. It's all about how you present yourself. They are not hard to get.

Durentt:
Furk off, a well baked graduate wud undastand dat homosexuality is nt a disease and prayer with fasting wont do anytin!

For the records, am male

"Am male", the half-bake we are talking about.

Rapmoney:
There is no need arguing with you! First, your post is filled with silly grammatical errors!!! Again, your post has no weight because it is dumb! In fact, you just proved yourself to be worse than a half-baked graduate and an ignoramus!!! Go and learn something useful before you quote me! Orue!!!

If you cannot argue reasonably or accept divergent views, then you are half-baked! Everyone must not accept your view of half-bake (they sound silly to me if you must know!)

TruthisOut:

If you cannot argue reasonably or accept divergent views, then you are half-baked! Everyone must not accept your view of half-bake (they sound silly to me if you must know!)

I don't give a crap whether they sound pleasant or silly to you if you must know!!!

byrron:
Lots of half bakies in here will still justify why they have been found so unworthy both in learning and in character.

They have been doing that since time immemorial!!!

eblazer:
The truth be told our universities don't provide the ample opportunity to be full blown graduate ,but the fact still remains you cant attribute you failures to any person accept you...

very true, the good thing though is the internet / online world has made knowledge easily accessible. Graduates do not have an excuse any longer to be sub-par

To all u wrote, I Concord except no. 6. I'm not about the context na content matter. I don't go for the 'graduate', I'm all about the person.

Rapmoney:
If u are thoroughly checked, it would be discovered that you are even worse than a half-baked graduate!

Your submission is pitiable at best. Whoever paid your school fees is the only loser here

You are a half baked graduate if you didn't read this post from the start to the end.







But I skimmed through and got the whole gists. I'm not a half baked graduate.

Rapmoney:
They have been doing that since time immemorial!!!

permanentgrace:


So to you, female graduates are all about money? How about men who are neither graduates nor rich but still date and marry these female graduates? If you are one of those guys lacking confidence to approach these ladies, i would suggest you redefine your worth. That's how you may end up marrying one of those small small girls selling plantain and groundnut in the street cos till you fall in love and impregnate them, you wont even know. Go for what you know you worth. It's all about how you present yourself. They are not hard to get.

What are you even talking? What is so special about dating a graduate. Are those ladies selling plantain and groundnut not humans like other female graduates? So because they don't have the means to attend the four wall of university, they become less human.

My ex and present girl friend is a graduate. Why will I be afraid to approach a common graduate that is a human like me. I have in one way or the other eyed a lady selling akara in my street and that does not make me less or lack confidence to approach even a PhD holder.

This certificate issue is over-rated in nigeria jorr. What your graduate girl-friend will give to you sexually, that akara girl can also give you even in excess.

Everyone has what he is looking for in a woman. If I see such quality in a banana girl seller, I will approach her and polish her to become like that graduate girl.

Some graduates you are talking about were once banana and akara seller. It's just a matter of chance.

butanep:


What are you even talking? What is so special about dating a graduate. Are those ladies selling plantain and groundnut not humans like other female graduates? So because they don't have the means to attend the four wall of university, they become less human.

My ex and present girl friend is a graduate. Why will I be afraid to approach a common graduate that is a human like me. I have in one way or the other eyed a lady selling akara in my street and that does not make me less or lack confidence to approach even a PhD holder.

This certificate issue is over-rated in nigeria jorr. What your graduate girl-friend will give to you sexually, that akara girl can also give you even in excess.

Everyone has what he is looking for in a woman. If I see such quality in a banana girl seller, I will approach her and polish her to become like that graduate girl.

Some graduates you are talking about were once banana and akara seller. It's just a matter of chance.

Alright bro. All good for whoever chooses. Suit yourself wherever you deem so.

Rapmoney:
There is no need arguing with you! First, your post is filled with silly grammatical errors!!! Again, your post has no weight because it is dumb! In fact, you just proved yourself to be worse than a half-baked graduate and an ignoramus!!! Go and learn something useful before you quote me! Orue!!!

yeah, exactly my point why you are a fool, cos my post is filled with grammatical errors doesn't mean that I am half baked.. believe whatever you will, I have said exactly what I had in mind, and I bet if your skill set and mine are compared it will be like 1:100, and trust me I am not exaggerating here....... Find yourself a life and stop trying to make people feel bad about themselves, fool

Also bro, the Grammatical errors on my post are virtue of the fact that I am human, rather than my level of education, and typos can be made by anybody, not to boast I have a typing speed of about 60 WPM (words per minute) on a PC, I doubt you can type 8WPM, fool

Even if it were that my level of education is so low that I cannot construct proper grammar/Sentence, well bro, English no be my papa language and I am very much excused, abi you think say Dangote sabi English like that? fool

ibullem:


Idiot of the highest order.

Guilty as charged.

Are you curious if I'm a grad? Google is your friend.

Because you don't have a life, and hence result to throwing tantrums on a faceless forum to boost your deranged and myopic ego, doesn't mean everybody is like you.

You, sir, are an idiot.

Go get sense, common sense is free.

So Google will tell me if you are a graduate or not? Ur stupidity is heaven sent bro
I know u are not a graduate, u just using ur abuses as excuse... We sabi people like una

CeeCJay:

Ramos16 please, ignore him. He, evidently isn't use to critical thinking

Ramos16 please, ignore him. He, evidently isn't use to critical thinking

My brother the guy is a fool who thinks he is made, he probably just graduated from the university and is feeling on-top of the world

Rapmoney you are foooolish

callmelanner:


So Google will tell me if you are a graduate or not? Ur stupidity is heaven sent bro
I know u are not a graduate, u just using ur abuses as excuse... We sabi people like una

Fool I ain't got nothing to prove to you.

But hey.. Gay ass licker... I'm curious..
You so obsessed about me? You wish to know my discipline? And want to know my alma-mater? Google ibullem my Facebook account will definitely pop up.. Run through it... So you can see how lowly and miserable you are.

I've just made a few of my pix public for your viewing pleasure, so I can help you through your misery.

Have fun
cos You, sir, are a fool.

permanentgrace:


Alright bro. All good for whoever chooses. Suit yourself wherever you deem so.

Good

You are half baked graduate if you support gerontocracy

You are a half baked graduate if all you do is to gather all the semi illiterate in your area and brain washed them claiming to be a pro

Victor said am a half baked graduate because I drink beer...
Is it true?

Rapmoney:
You are worse than a half-baked graduate! Orue!!!

Lolz. Rapmoney I no blame you. But seriously try to do some research on what it means to be an engineering graduate ok. In the engineering profession there are different expectations for your training and education which are not immediately obvious to the uninformed. University engineering graduates are in essence trained in fundamental engineering theories to understand the principles of how things work most importantly and first of all.So to put it in perspective, Your mechanical engineering graduate is taught about the fundamental principles of how mechanical systems work generally and not the specifics(He learns the specifics by going for advanced courses or during training or on the job,At this point he is known as an engineer in training and in countries like Nigeria is not yet qualified to be designated as an Engineer till after 4 years of such learning period.So simply put, a Mechanical Engineering graduate in Nigeria is just someone who has been imparted fundamental and generic knowledge and needs to further learn through relevant experience and training).

A university engineering graduate is actually not expected to be practical oriented in the sense in which you are applying it (repairing motor vehicles in this case).The primary expectation on him is his ability to use numbers,formulas ,codes standards and best practices to resolve problems or propose improvements to systems .Take careful note of this.


You should also know that in Engineering there are different levels of responsibility and hierarchy
1.The university engineering graduate is at the top of this hierarchy and makes designs and decisions based on engineering principles calculations,laws,codes and standards. He is the de-facto head and supervisor of all the others
2.The Technician is usually a polytechnic grad who is trained to practically apply the engineering knowledge generated by the Engineer to build maintain and operate engineering systems.(He can perform repairs on your vehicle if that is his field)
3.The craftsman is a skilled worker that does specialized manual tasks such as a plumber , fitter, Mechanic etc(He should be the one to change your bulb if an electrical craftsman or service your vehicle if an automobile mechanic).



It is also important for you to know that being a Mechanical Engineer means a billion and one things.There are over 20 different branches of mechanical engineering ranging from fluid mechanics to thermodynamics to tribology to Mechanics to nanotechnology to mechatronics to robotics to automobile technology etc etc. So a lot of times , the guy that introduces himself to you as a mechanical engineer is actually specialized in something seemingly abstract to you and knows only a little about automobiles through his professional training (and even the stuff he knows relates to how to design its systems and how they work rather than how to change oil filter or any other maintenance service procedure).


Also important for you to note is that there is a difference between a mechanical engineer ,an automobile engineer , a mechanic an automobile mechanic.They are not all the same. An automobile engineer is basically a mechanical engineer trained in the theory and design of automobiles.Their job is to design bigger better, faster and more efficient vehicles along with developing better ways of operating and maintaining such vehicles. A mechanic refers to any trained craftsman or worker who carries out maintenance repairs on Machinery in general,so he could be a generator mechanic,train mechanic etc.An automobile mechanic or automotive mechanic is a skilled craftsman that maintains automobiles.

So my learned colleague,I agree with you that it is a good thing to be able to change your light bulb and service your car,but it isn't the right criteria to judge an engineering degree .Lets do everything within the illumination of relevant facts.And we must also be willing to accept positive criticism and learn as this is also the mark of a "fully baked Graduate"

eblazer:
The truth be told our universities don't provide the ample opportunity to be full blown graduate ,but the fact still remains you cant attribute you failures to any person accept you...

I would like to strongly disagree with you on this point. The Nigerian universities give you the fundamentals you need to be an accomplished graduate of your field.The only area where I fault them is in the area of practicals, research and contemporary knowledge. So in my own humble opinion, look at studying in Nigerian universities as a golden opportunity to study very hard- at the end you will be amazed that you can compete anywhere in the world with the fundamentals you have learnt; but you may have to seek to learn the extras yourself from the internet or from other professionals and networking. As proof of this,let me ask you a question-why do Nigerian graduates do so well abroad when they go to work or study to the extent that they become the best in their field or valedictorians? The simple answer is that they have been armed with the basic relevant knowledge while in Naija Universities.So its all about the attitude of our country generally.Nowadays secondary school students who have no responsibilities of any kind still cannot pass WAEC but buy their results.Why?is it that the curriculum has changed?No , the curriculum has not changed, but the people have changed and they try to blame that decline on many things except their lack of study discipline.

ibullem:


Fool I ain't got nothing to prove to you.

But hey.. Gay ass licker... I'm curious..
You so obsessed about me? You wish to know my discipline? And want to know my alma-mater? Google ibullem my Facebook account will definitely pop up.. Run through it... So you can see how lowly and miserable you are.

I've just made a few of my pix public for your viewing pleasure, so I can help you through your misery.

Have fun
cos You, sir, are a fool.

Dont show me pictures of yourself young man, show me proof that u went to school...
This man said he wrote his project himself but cannot write his discipline & school for us to see.. instead he's posting pictures of himself
Am sure ur project, thats if u wrote any will be filled with uncouth, debased & obscene words "insult no dey leave wound for pesin body" so u can mention me with all the abuses remaining in ur head or u can make reference to d dictionary if d insults 4 ur head don finish..