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Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 6:55am On Oct 30, 2015
jazinogold:
you are right...its a trade by barter thing! Confirm ameachi and we stalled ur trials at the CCT! Well let's,see how the party fulfil its part!
I doubt thr APC will withdraw the Saraki's case. A good political strategist takes no prisoner. Anyway, one never can tell the level of compromise with Saraki going by the APC recent statement.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by OrlandoOwoh(m): 6:57am On Oct 30, 2015
Abeg, na who see my friend, Chukwudi44?
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Firefire(m): 6:58am On Oct 30, 2015
APC - PDP show of shame!

No cabinet in place yet, today is 30th October 2015.

Fuel scarcity across the country

1 USD still sells for 240 Naira

Nigeria economy is nosediving

Companies are closing and folding up, with many losing jobs already.

We are here discussing looters and career rogues. undecided
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 6:58am On Oct 30, 2015
lorbah001:
Tonye I believe you can't loose everything

WE the believer still recognize you as a wailer despite your regional loss, I mean the ditch you suffered from 'your SE cousins'


Plz don't DECAMP
My Brother, I believe my SE cousins will understand me with time. I want to assure you that my commitment to PDP for a better democracy is non-negotiable.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by egift(m): 6:59am On Oct 30, 2015
As expected, PDP are left picking the crumbs on the floor.

PDP will have their wailing, Nigerians will have their way! grin grin grin grin grin
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by OrlandoOwoh(m): 6:59am On Oct 30, 2015
Firefire:
Interesting time ahead for Nigerians.


I pity the brainless followers of this government of no direction.
Pity your coward PDP senators. Next time they should stage a sit-at-home protest.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by menix(m): 7:00am On Oct 30, 2015
If am a god I will kill all PDP Sin-nators, this guyz re more disgraceful compared to Chelsea..

If it's possible sef make PDP Sin-ators walk out nd neva come back..
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Swaggzkid: 7:02am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Even if they had talked it wouldn't have made any difference. This is because SP Saraki and the APC Senators were determined to screen Amaechi.
PDP led for 16yrs, was amaechi not a member of the PDP while ruling for those number of years?

the worst is about to happen to this amaechi of a guy. QUOTE ME ANYWHERE


the problem of nigeria wasnt PDP, and its now that people wil start to concur. lets accept the fact that we are now the opposition and lets be vigilant and forceful.


Sen.Akpabio my role model
Tonyebarcanista my mentor

LONG LIVE PDP
LONG LIVE THE FRN.
LOVE LIVE NAIRALAND TILL 2019 AND BEYOUND.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 7:04am On Oct 30, 2015
Firefire:
APC - PDP show of shame!

No cabinet in place yet, today is 30th October 2015.

Fuel scarcity across the country

1 USD still sells for 240 Naira

Nigeria economy is nosediving

Companies are closing and folding up, with many losing jobs already.

We are here discussing looters and career rogues. undecided
It is not yet the fullness of time na
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Swaggzkid: 7:07am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
My Brother, I believe my SE cousins will understand me with time. I want to assure you that my commitment to PDP for a better democracy is non-negotiable.
nice reply God bless u
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Ezira: 7:09am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
The confirmation of Rotimi Amaechi as minister of the government by the Saraki-led Senate yesterday sent a strong message to the PDP that APC is fully in charge of the red chambers. What went wrong?

PDP Once Had The Senate At Its Grip:
During the period that precede the election of the National Assembly leadership, some of us opposition members schemed on how to do a "Tambawal 2011" on the ruling APC for both Houses of the National Assembly. Seeing that APC leadership had endorsed Senator Lawan and Hon Femi Gbajabiamila for the offices of Senate President and Speaker of the House of Representatives respectively, we embarked on campaign calling for Senators elected under the PDP platform to team up with minority APC dissent legislators and support Abubakar Saraki and Yakubu Dogara for the respective aforementioned offices. It was in fact, a well calculated effort to position the PDP as the power behind the National Assembly throne". The NASS leadership election not only went the way of the PDP in all four offices, it also gifted PDP's Ike Ekweremadu the Deputy Senate Presidency as a "trophy". It sent shivers and anger to the APC and joy to the PDP.

PDP Prevented APC From Self-Destruction
APC leadership and the presidency never hid their displeasure at the manner the ruling party was embarrassed by Saraki-led minority APC rebel senators that worked hand-in-hand with the PDP. The government embarked on a journey to get Saraki out of the way by dusting his alleged corruption file that was idling at the Code of Conduct Bureau locker. I had reasoned that the prosecution of Saraki before the Code of Conduct Tribunal is the internal affair of the APC and capable of polarising APC's ranks in the Senate, creating division and catalysing their own destruction. There was a room for the PDP to negotiate a soft landing for Saraki and his minority APC loyalists with promise of chairmanship of choice committees and retaining the Principal officers on condition that Saraki will step down voluntarily and mobilise his minority APC followers within the Senate to support a PDP candidate for the position of Senate President. The PDP unfortunately, chose to "swim and sink" with Saraki. They followed him to all his court appearances like the now famous "Abubakou" and allowed Saraki to negotiate his way to the heart and soul of the APC leadership at their very own expense. The PDP successfully aided the prevention of APC's destruction in the Senate. They made the APC to realise their mistakes and unite their Senators to do their own bidding. PDP lost the Senate as a result!

PDP Lost The Golden Chance To Block Amaechi's Screening:
October 21 was first scheduled as the day of screening for Hon Rotimi Amaechi as a minister of the government. Same day coincidentally was the day Bukola Saraki was to appear before the CCT for his ongoing trial. Being the Deputy Senate President, the constitution allows Senator Ike Ekweremadu to preside over the affairs of the senate in the absence of the Senate President. It was expected that with Ike at the helm affairs, the PDP senators have the rare privilege of doing nominee Amaechi as they pleases. Instead of seizing this rare opportunity, PDP leaders in the Senate "agreed" with Saraki to adjourn planery for the said day. They lost the golden opportunity to have both their say and their way in Amaechi's screening. Sadly, with Saraki at helm of affair, PDP Senators only had their say but not their way.

Walk-out May Cost PDP The DSP Position:
It is no secret that APC leadership want Ike Ekweremadu out of the DSP office. According to section 50(2)(c) of the 1999 constitution, removal of the Deputy Senate President from office only requires 2/3 votes of the Senate. Considering that it only needs 1/3 members of senators to form a quorum(Section 54(1) of the constitution), the APC senators present may take advantage of any walk-out by PDP senators and move motion for the impeachment of Senator Ekweremadu from office. It only need the blessing of 2/3 members of the Senators present to achieve it. PDP caucus should be very careful.

The Present State of PDP In The Senate:
Having lost their grip of the senate, PDP caucus should let bygone be bygone and come to terms with their role as opposition within the Senate. They should be focussed on providing good opposition while doing their jobs as legislators. They have to face the fact that as opposition, they will most likely not have their way but only their say. Hopefully, the party gets things right and win majority seat in next legislative election in 2019.
Tonye, this gives me an opportunity to commend you for always standing up for what you believe in. I so much cherish your analytical skill. However, please note that removal of DSP requires 2/3 of the whole Senate and not 2/3 of those present at plenary.
I see you at the top some day

May God Bless Us All and Nigeria
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by engineerboat(m): 7:10am On Oct 30, 2015
MrRobot:
And Barcanista finally returns to APC.. This guy is the full meaning of any where belle face
How did you pass ur english den or now.
Did you bother to read the OP at all APC ko APeecee ni
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Firefire(m): 7:11am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
It is not yet the fullness of time na
At the fullness of time, Nigeria as an entity would have fully vaporized.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Swaggzkid: 7:13am On Oct 30, 2015
menix:
If am a god I will kill all PDP Sin-nators, this guyz re more disgraceful compared to Chelsea..

If it's possible sef make PDP Sin-ators walk out nd neva come back..
who is talking please?? your opinion is not needed here okay....jesus
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 7:19am On Oct 30, 2015
Swaggzkid:
PDP led for 16yrs, was amaechi not a member of the PDP while ruling for those number of years?

the worst is about to happen to this amaechi of a guy. QUOTE ME ANYWHERE


the problem of nigeria wasnt PDP, and its now that people wil start to concur. lets accept the fact that we are now the opposition and lets be vigilant and forceful.


Sen.Akpabio my role model
Tonyebarcanista my mentor

LONG LIVE PDP
LONG LIVE THE FRN.
LOVE LIVE NAIRALAND TILL 2019 AND BEYOUND.
It is an undisputed fact that 70% of people that were prominent in PDP between 1999 and 2015 are the folks that make up APC
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by menix(m): 7:19am On Oct 30, 2015
Swaggzkid:
who is talking please?? your opinion is not needed here okay....jesus
Nd u think an opinion of a hungry dude like u matters to me.

U re just kid as ur moniker has stated, so run along before ur lecturer hits d class.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Nobody: 7:26am On Oct 30, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
Abeg, na who see my friend, Chukwudi44?
Ode i am too busy with my own personal work to have time for people like you now
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by ishiamu(m): 7:32am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Cc:
Teryfik Sdindan Roob chukkiephil ChappyChase Ishiamu gunuvi Truckpusher Rozayx5 bomsilaga, erunz dunsman Nigerianvenom PRYCE Phockphockman, nwadiuko1, ibokUtoroh, Koded, iPrinz20 Aprokoman, OcheJoseph, Dearpreye, Firefire, Tomakint Francizy, Temitemi1, Hinwazaka, Dumkem21 Biafranqueen, Mogidi, IsraeliAirforce, Candyrain, Ambivert, Rose2014, Opiaoku, Anonimi, Engineerboat, Talktimi, ahaika23, coolestrogue APCSucks Emperortj93 DebateNigeria Chukwudi44 and all patriots
Theyy couldn't do more we are minority
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by lawflec(m): 7:34am On Oct 30, 2015
It seems u didn't practically understand the constitutional implications of the position of the DSP.. Now, his position is as solidified as ever, one he never staged a walk out with his colleagues hence he is still favoured by the ruling party. Secondly, even though he should be axed along part line APC lacks the majority to do same. The can firm a quorum to determine any biz aside impeachment.. The purport of 2/3 means that of the WHOLE HOUSE and not merely those sitting and voting. Now the maths. APC lawmakers can never form the required majority to remove him even Saraki without the help of PDP Senators.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by modath(f): 7:51am On Oct 30, 2015
Firefire:
APC - PDP show of shame!

No cabinet in place yet, today is 30th October 2015.

Fuel scarcity across the country

1 USD still sells for 240 Naira

Nigeria economy is nosediving

Companies are closing and folding up, with many losing jobs already.

We are here discussing looters and career rogues. undecided
I won't argue with any other point there cos it's subjective but please stop with the 240 Naira to a USD thing, it's not even about propaganda, it's verifiable falsehood...

CBN' s rate for "legal purchases" with forms A & M is still 197, PTA for travellers is 199, Bank Cards is still 220, Parallel market is 225+ & even people trying to purchase inflow e dollars into dorm accounts won't buy at more than 230....

Parallel market is not the true estimation..

Take care.


Attached is rates for this week..

Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by onatisi(m): 7:58am On Oct 30, 2015
kingdompropty:
Well said.

1. PDP must be careful.

2. They must take a position on Saraki, wether sinking or Standing.

3. They must begin to play the role of a robust opposition.

4. They must always always stand together now.

5. They must find ways of dealing with National issues in a more matured ways.

Nigerians are soon going to be weary of this scam change.
bros forget pdp. With what they did yesterday by staging that walkout anyone who still places his or her hopes in that party or senators should have his brains checked. What happened yesterday was a sellout. In democracy you make ur voice heard and presence felt. Staging that walkout was a tactical approval of buhari list of ministers without wanting to be seen present. If they had stayed and continued raising questions about amaechi and continued objecting ,people would have seen them as a strong opposition force .that programme was aired life on a satellite channel which means ppl all over the world was watching.they could have piled pressure on saraki and raised all the corruption charges and allegations against amaechi,believe amaechi wouldn't have been confirmed. This is what they did 2weeks ago when they decided not to ask amaechi any question. By 2017, 3/4 of those pdp senators will be in Apc .you just wait and see. The truth is the search for a new party has begun
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by OrlandoOwoh(m): 8:03am On Oct 30, 2015
chukwudi44:
Ode i am too busy with my own personal work to have time for people like you now
Oponu, you've suddenly become busy since the confirmation of Amaechi. Liar!
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Nobody: 8:18am On Oct 30, 2015
modath:
Fix what things huh , quit with the jokes. smiley

You are living in delusion if you feel any of these lawmakers are there for anything but self preservation.

PDP isn't returning to the national stage, even Ekweremadu will soon swim up from that sunk ship.

Ekweremadu is biding his time, he's going to sooner rather than later claim he's defecting to give the Ibos a sense of belonging in the grand scheme of things...

He will watch & let the dust settle first...

Bookmark this post for posterity. ....
Leave am. He is a better story teller than political analyst. What is the point of this thread? instead of the guy to iron trouser and prepare to hook up with his friend cramjones this evening, he is here opening thread that can't even sew singlet.

The man is struggling for relevance.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by modath(f): 8:25am On Oct 30, 2015
musKeeto:
Leave am. He is a better story teller than political analyst. What is the point of this thread? instead of the guy to iron trouser and prepare to hook up with his friend cramjones this evening, he is here opening thread that can't even sew singlet.

The man is struggling for relevance.
Bwaaaahahahhaha cheesy grin cheesy... You are wicked ooo,

Sew singlet is epic!! grin
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Nobody: 8:29am On Oct 30, 2015
modath:
Bwaaaahahahhaha cheesy grin cheesy... You are wicked ooo,

Sew singlet is epic!! grin
Na true now. Na to send the guy sewing machine this xmas, make im use im threads sew uniform for nextGen pdp/shadow cabin. Mumu people. tongue
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by nwadiuko1(m): 8:33am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Cc:
Teryfik Sdindan Roob chukkiephil ChappyChase Ishiamu gunuvi Truckpusher Rozayx5 bomsilaga, erunz dunsman Nigerianvenom PRYCE Phockphockman, nwadiuko1, ibokUtoroh, Koded, iPrinz20 Aprokoman, OcheJoseph, Dearpreye, Firefire, Tomakint Francizy, Temitemi1, Hinwazaka, Dumkem21 Biafranqueen, Mogidi, IsraeliAirforce, Candyrain, Ambivert, Rose2014, Opiaoku, Anonimi, Engineerboat, Talktimi, ahaika23, coolestrogue APCSucks Emperortj93 DebateNigeria Chukwudi44 and all patriots
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by freshcvvs:
TonyeBarcanista:
Even if they had talked it wouldn't have made any difference. This is because SP Saraki and the APC Senators were determined to screen Amaechi.
You know this because it happened in your dream or that you were in the mind of all the senators?

where do you put Nigerians?

if they had asked him serious questions, wouldn't Nigerians have been the judge on his answers so as to either support his nomination outside the chambers or wail against him?
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 9:26am On Oct 30, 2015
freshcvvs:
You know this because it happened in your dream or that you were in the mind of all the senators?

where do you put Nigerians?

if they had asked me serious questions, wouldn't Nigerians have been the judge on his answers so as to either support his nomination outside the chambers or wail against him?
No matter the questions Saraki was keen on confirming Amaechi. That however is not a valid excuse for not asking the right question.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 9:32am On Oct 30, 2015
lawflec:
It seems u didn't practically understand the constitutional implications of the position of the DSP.. Now, his position is as solidified as ever, one he never staged a walk out with his colleagues hence he is still favoured by the ruling party. Secondly, even though he should be axed along part line APC lacks the majority to do same. The can firm a quorum to determine any biz aside impeachment.. The purport of 2/3 means that of the WHOLE HOUSE and not merely those sitting and voting. Now the maths. APC lawmakers can never form the required majority to remove him even Saraki without the help of PDP Senators.
Boss, once a qorum is formed, the legislators can perform any business irrespective of the number of senators present. It doesn't matter whether only APC Senators partook or not. This was why Ekiti G11 were able to perform their coup against the Speaker and the majority.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by rusher14: 9:44am On Oct 30, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
Abeg, na who see my friend, Chukwudi44?
No be him ambulance just carry go hospital?
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by freshcvvs: 9:44am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
No matter the questions Saraki was keen on confirming Amaechi. That however is not a valid excuse for not asking the right question.
Assumption bro.. since they didn't ask, you can't say what would have happened!
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by OrlandoOwoh(m): 9:46am On Oct 30, 2015
rusher14:
No be him ambulance just carry go hospital?
Chukwudi44, has been silenced the way he was on the issue of Tambuwal.
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