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Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by philips70(m): 10:00am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
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You really call Chukwudi44 a patriot? Am doubting your patriotism now. He has absconded since he doesn't know the stand to take on Saraki at the moment.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Eziachi: 10:01am On Oct 30, 2015
kingdompropty:
Well said.

1. PDP must be careful.

2. They must take a position on Saraki, wether sinking or Standing.

3. They must begin to play the role of a robust opposition.

4. They must always always stand together now.

5. They must find ways of dealing with National issues in a more matured ways.

Nigerians are soon going to be weary of this scam change.
It depended on how many of them will be left in the sack after the dust at the tribunal/'re-runs settled.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by philips70(m): 10:04am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Cc: Obinoscopy and Lalasticlala
Relax your blood joor. Must every of your thread make front page? One day you will just write ABCDEF and call on Lalasticlala to move it to front page.

Meanwhile RIP to your ambition of seeing Amaechi disqualified in the senate. PDP wanted to lose power and still be in control.


APC teaching PDP politics since Mar 28th 2015.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 10:08am On Oct 30, 2015
philips70:
Relax your blood joor. Must every of your thread make front page? One day you will just write ABCDEF and call on Lalasticlala to move it to front page.

Meanwhile RIP to your ambition of seeing Amaechi disqualified in the senate. PDP wanted to lose power and still be in control.


APC teaching PDP politics since Mar 28th 2015.
Bros, allow the Moderators do their job na.

Na una time to celebrate sha...
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Jesusloveyou: 10:19am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Even if they had talked it wouldn't have made any difference. This is because SP Saraki and the APC Senators were determined to screen Amaechi.
saraki and his rejected apc sin-ator, don't have any other choice than to obey their master(buhari and tinubu) or were u expecting saraki to obey his slaves(pdp)?
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by osazeeblue01: 10:20am On Oct 30, 2015
The game in politics.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by lawflec(m): 10:20am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Boss, once a qorum is formed, the legislators can perform any business irrespective of the number of senators present. It doesn't matter whether only APC Senators partook or not. This was why Ekiti G11 were able to perform their coup against the Speaker and the majority.
in a long lasting cases and judicial precedents, the courts have said that 2/3 means that of the whole house and not those voting. The election of Saraki would have been a Constitutional error if the law had provided for a 2/3 because PDP would not have mustered it.. My argument is not just a mere thinking the supreme court supports my opinion and that was their decision in the locus classicus of INAKOJU VS ADELEKE, DIAPIALONG VS DARIYE KADUNNA STATE HOUSE OF ASSEMLY VS LADOJA.. if u can read these cases u will get the implications of my argument and the rationale for such decision.. He can't be impeached by only APC Senators forming quorum. Ekiti speaker WAS NOT mpeached. it was a political battle between PDP Fayose v APC house of assembly which lasted until another election was conducted and he was prevailed over to withdraw his case in court when Fayose said he wanted settlement
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by kinibigdeal(m): 10:26am On Oct 30, 2015
A very simple analysis, the dug-out between Tinubu and Buhari may reflect in the affairs of the senate, it is obvious that Tinubu don't want Saraki from the onset. The harmony you all think APC now have is a joke, Saraki is floating on River Nile, losing the support of the 49 PDP members may spell doom for him soon. I won't be surprise, if there is need for a coalition between Tinubu Caucus of APC(once enemy of PDP) and PDP in years to come. Buhari body language will tell. PDP will always win
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Nobody: 10:27am On Oct 30, 2015
kinibigdeal:
A very simple analysis, the dug-out between Tinubu and Buhari may reflect in the affairs of the senate, it is obvious that Tinubu don't want Saraki from the onset. The harmony you all think APC now have is a joke, Saraki is floating on River Nile, losing the support of the 49 PDP members may spell doom for him soon. I won't be surprise, if there is need for a coalition between Tinubu Caucus of APC(once enemy of PDP) and PDP in years to come. Buhari body language will tell. PDP will always win
PDP will always win?
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Jesusloveyou: 10:30am On Oct 30, 2015
Eziachi:
It depended on how many of them will be left in the sack after the dust at the tribunal/'re-runs settled.
even by d time probe wil start, they wil all scattered, which has already start with their minority leader, next wil be mark and Ike, very soon pdp wil not exist again, even before 2019 election
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by ExInferis(m): 10:31am On Oct 30, 2015
How is this drivel a "detailed analysis"?

It's just a recap of events.

This zombie overrates himself.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Nobody: 10:32am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
The confirmation of Rotimi Amaechi as minister of the government by the Saraki-led Senate yesterday sent a strong message to the PDP that APC is fully in charge of the red chambers. What went wrong?

PDP Once Had The Senate At Its Grip:
During the period that precede the election of the National Assembly leadership, some of us opposition members schemed on how to do a "Tambawal 2011" on the ruling APC for both Houses of the National Assembly. Seeing that APC leadership had endorsed Senator Lawan and Hon Femi Gbajabiamila for the offices of Senate President and Speaker of the House of Representatives respectively, we embarked on campaign calling for Senators elected under the PDP platform to team up with minority APC dissent legislators and support Abubakar Saraki and Yakubu Dogara for the respective aforementioned offices. It was in fact, a well calculated effort to position the PDP as the power behind the National Assembly throne". The NASS leadership election not only went the way of the PDP in all four offices, it also gifted PDP's Ike Ekweremadu the Deputy Senate Presidency as a "trophy". It sent shivers and anger to the APC and joy to the PDP.

PDP Prevented APC From Self-Destruction
APC leadership and the presidency never hid their displeasure at the manner the ruling party was embarrassed by Saraki-led minority APC rebel senators that worked hand-in-hand with the PDP. The government embarked on a journey to get Saraki out of the way by dusting his alleged corruption file that was idling at the Code of Conduct Bureau locker. I had reasoned that the prosecution of Saraki before the Code of Conduct Tribunal is the internal affair of the APC and capable of polarising APC's ranks in the Senate, creating division and catalysing their own destruction. There was a room for the PDP to negotiate a soft landing for Saraki and his minority APC loyalists with promise of chairmanship of choice committees and retaining the Principal officers on condition that Saraki will step down voluntarily and mobilise his minority APC followers within the Senate to support a PDP candidate for the position of Senate President. The PDP unfortunately, chose to "swim and sink" with Saraki. They followed him to all his court appearances like the now famous "Abubakou" and allowed Saraki to negotiate his way to the heart and soul of the APC leadership at their very own expense. The PDP successfully aided the prevention of APC's destruction in the Senate. They made the APC to realise their mistakes and unite their Senators to do their own bidding. PDP lost the Senate as a result!

PDP Lost The Golden Chance To Block Amaechi's Screening:
October 21 was first scheduled as the day of screening for Hon Rotimi Amaechi as a minister of the government. Same day coincidentally was the day Bukola Saraki was to appear before the CCT for his ongoing trial. Being the Deputy Senate President, the constitution allows Senator Ike Ekweremadu to preside over the affairs of the senate in the absence of the Senate President. It was expected that with Ike at the helm affairs, the PDP senators have the rare privilege of doing nominee Amaechi as they pleases. Instead of seizing this rare opportunity, PDP leaders in the Senate "agreed" with Saraki to adjourn planery for the said day. They lost the golden opportunity to have both their say and their way in Amaechi's screening. Sadly, with Saraki at helm of affair, PDP Senators only had their say but not their way.

Walk-out May Cost PDP The DSP Position:
It is no secret that APC leadership want Ike Ekweremadu out of the DSP office. According to section 50(2)(c) of the 1999 constitution, removal of the Deputy Senate President from office only requires 2/3 votes of the Senate. Considering that it only needs 1/3 members of senators to form a quorum(Section 54(1) of the constitution), the APC senators present may take advantage of any walk-out by PDP senators and move motion for the impeachment of Senator Ekweremadu from office. It only need the blessing of 2/3 members of the Senators present to achieve it. PDP caucus should be very careful.

The Present State of PDP In The Senate:
Having lost their grip of the senate, PDP caucus should let bygone be bygone and come to terms with their role as opposition within the Senate. They should be focussed on providing good opposition while doing their jobs as legislators. They have to face the fact that as opposition, they will most likely not have their way but only their say. Hopefully, the party gets things right and win majority seat in next legislative election in 2019.



May God Bless Us All and Nigeria
I told u all these earlier but u chose to wallow in ignorance in the name of political analyst that u r not.
PDP will still loss river state to compound their woes.

PDP and Igbo youths have no business shielding saraki. Olisah metu was taking glory of saraki emergence as SP. And taking glory for PDP shutting the senate to shield saraki in court.

MORAL LESSON:. PDP SHOULD MIND THIER BUSNESS AS OPPOSITION AND STOP STICKING NOSE IN OTHER PARTY BUSINESS.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Rilwayne001: 10:34am On Oct 30, 2015
bettercreature:
I beat PA CHUKWUDI 99-0 JUST like india vs Nigeria
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Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Jobabori(m): 10:40am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
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Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Jesusloveyou: 10:42am On Oct 30, 2015
lawflec:
in a long lasting cases and judicial precedents, the courts have said that 2/3 means that of the whole house and not those voting. The election of Saraki would have been a Constitutional error if the law had provided for a 2/3 because PDP would not have mustered it.. My argument is not just a mere thinking the supreme court supports my opinion and that was their decision in the locus classicus of INAKOJU VS ADELEKE, DIAPIALONG VS DARIYE KADUNNA STATE HOUSE OF ASSEMLY VS LADOJA.. if u can read these cases u will get the implications of my argument and the rationale for such decision.. He can't be impeached by only APC Senators forming quorum. Ekiti speaker WAS NOT mpeached. it was a political battle between PDP Fayose v APC house of assembly which lasted until another election was conducted and he was prevailed over to withdraw his case in court when Fayose said he wanted settlement
absolutely wrong, d same quorum voted saraki and Ike, in d absent of apc senators,
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by bobosh02(m): 10:42am On Oct 30, 2015
Swaggzkid:
Ok, i wont say anything at all, before them say i talk,


am a proud wailer and opposition, so long as am not a dullard because thats the worst thing that can happen to anyone right now.


Mic over to all dullards (.ADAN.) All Dullards Association of Nigeria.
very funny,wit all ur intelligence,am sure u re not even d CDA chairman of ur community,u ve neva held any position where u re no 1,and imagine a dullard is d no 1 citizen and president of d great nation Nigeria where an intelligent person like u reside,if being a dullard like PMB will make me b come d president of NIGERIA in future,GOD pls I want to b a dullard like PMB n bcome d president of Nigeria
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Dindondin: 10:45am On Oct 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Comprehension is a very BIG challenge to some of you. If you were sane, you'd have known the direction of the article. Jesus!
I blame the fool that couldn't comprehend well with your articles direction.
Last Bullet
And to you, Barcawhatever, quit partisan politics. Be a neutral political analyst.
PDP is just a failed party presently.
Their future is bleak.
APC isn't that better. That's why I csntcsay you should join them.
Just be a canvaser of true democracy.
Through this, ya light ll shine more than its present state.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by comfy1: 10:53am On Oct 30, 2015
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Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Jobabori(m): 10:54am On Oct 30, 2015
Dindondin:
I blame the fool that couldn't comprehend well with your articles direction.
Last Bullet
And to you, Barcawhatever, quit partisan politics. Be a neutral political analyst.
PDP is just a failed party presently.
Their future is bleak.
APC isn't that better. That's why I csntcsay you should join them.
Just be a canvaser of true democracy.
Through this, ya light ll shine more than its present state.
A brotherly objective advise. God bless you but i am sure the dog that will go astray will refuse to hear the whistle of the hunter.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by lawflec(m): 10:57am On Oct 30, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
absolutely wrong, d same quorum voted saraki and Ike, in d absent of apc senators,
because the constitution said SIMPLE MAJORITY. s majority of 109 senators is 55 approximation in electing a principal officer but the constitution provided for a 2/3 majority which is 72 senators to impeach the SP or the DSP. That's why the APC supremacy did not immediately impeach Saraki because they have 59 and not 72 senators... Hope u got it now?
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by morbeta(m): 11:02am On Oct 30, 2015
From my personal observation yesterday,pdp has not so bright and inexperienced senators coupled with the fact that they have alot of new comers and with Akpabio as their leader, may not match what is coming ahead.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 11:12am On Oct 30, 2015
lawflec:
in a long lasting cases and judicial precedents, the courts have said that 2/3 means that of the whole house and not those voting. The election of Saraki would have been a Constitutional error if the law had provided for a 2/3 because PDP would not have mustered it.. My argument is not just a mere thinking the supreme court supports my opinion and that was their decision in the locus classicus of INAKOJU VS ADELEKE, DIAPIALONG VS DARIYE KADUNNA STATE HOUSE OF ASSEMLY VS LADOJA.. if u can read these cases u will get the implications of my argument and the rationale for such decision.. He can't be impeached by only APC Senators forming quorum. Ekiti speaker WAS NOT mpeached. it was a political battle between PDP Fayose v APC house of assembly which lasted until another election was conducted and he was prevailed over to withdraw his case in court when Fayose said he wanted settlement
Very wrong sir! The cases of Joshua Dariye and Ladoja had to do with illegal removal from office as Governors. For instance, Dariye was impeached by FIVE members of Plateau state house of Assembly. That clearly fell short of Qorum. In Ladoja's case, he was impeached by 18 members of the State House and in a Hotel without the Maze which is the symbol of authority. These are facts!

As for Ekiti Speaker, he was impeached and wasn't recognised as Speaker by the State CJ and House Clerk.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Jesusloveyou: 11:12am On Oct 30, 2015
lawflec:
because the constitution said SIMPLE MAJORITY. s majority of 109 senators is 55 approximation in electing a principal officer but the constitution provided for a 2/3 majority which is 72 senators to impeach the SP or the DSP. That's why the APC supremacy did not immediately impeach Saraki because they have 59 and not 72 senators... Hope u got it now?
no, u are still wrong, a simple majority of those present elected saraki and Ike. D only reason apc has not impeach saraki and Ike, is because pdp senators are present. If it was only 56 apc senator present, saraki and Ike wil be impeach
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by babafirst(m): 11:17am On Oct 30, 2015
MrRobot:
And Barcanista finally returns to APC.. This guy is the full meaning of any where belle face
lol.
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by Manchelsea(m): 11:17am On Oct 30, 2015
When PMB had given instructions that Amechi must be a minister.....You want SP Saraki to disobey Oga at the top
Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by TonyeBarcanista(op): 11:18am On Oct 30, 2015
Dindondin:
I blame the fool that couldn't comprehend well with your articles direction.
Last Bullet
And to you, Barcawhatever, quit partisan politics. Be a neutral political analyst.
PDP is just a failed party presently.
Their future is bleak.
APC isn't that better. That's why I csntcsay you should join them.
Just be a canvaser of true democracy.
Through this, ya light ll shine more than its present state.
Thanks for the advice sir. I really appreciate your care and concern. Thanks once again.

Please, understand that irrespective of partisan bias, patriotism to the country and my conscience remains supreme to me.
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Re: A Detailed Analysis On How PDP Lost Out In The Senate's Scheme Of Things by justmenoni: 11:31am On Oct 30, 2015
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