₦airaland Forum

john124:
Good morning nairalanders this is an excerpt from an old thread showing that bonny people are ibos just a slight difference in their language with igbo.
From observation this argument has been on since 2009 on many forums.
Tonye barcanister you are making me go crazy with your unverifiable claims that ndokis are not igbos. I want to believe that you're from one of the kalabari speaking regions including abonemma,buguma, degema, bakana etc.
I grew up in Rivers state so i know for sure that ndokis, bonny people are igbo speaking tribes with slight difference in their grammatical meanings.
I hail from AkS (AKWA IBOM) and i know some regions in akwa ibom are linked to old greek and isreal.
There is even a forum on facebook that tells and proves that their traditions and festivals are similar to that of ibo. And i want to challenge you to move into any ndoki land and bring with you proof and evidence that they are otherwise.
http://igbodefender.com /2011/08/10/the-tight- igbo-connections-with-bonny/
Bonny is a town in the Nigerian Niger Delta. It is known for it’s Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) terminal. But what many don’t know is that the most indigenes of that town are descendants of Igbos who would have been sold into slavery, had it not been for Olaudah Equiano’s campaign against the Transatlantic Slave Trade.
The Igbos who settled in Bonny developed a new dialect called Bonny Igbo. In fact, the first bible ever published in Igbo was printed in the Bonny Igbo dialect.
Bonny is also famous for being the place where Jaja of Opobo, an Igbo slave from Amaigbo, in today’s Imo State, first rose to prominence. He later led is followers to form the neihbouring kingdom of Opobo.
One of the most famous Bonny families today is the Jumbo family, which is descended from Oko Jumbo, another enterprising Igboman who was Jaja’s strongest rival in Bonny.
© igbodefender.com 2011

NOBLEDANDY:
Do you know portharcourt rivers is Igbo territory??

coolscott:
Clearly, fraudulence remains encoded in your blood and it is a spiritual thing
Read below a post from some days ago explaining your situation which you are apparently gleefully unaware of and simply because the lack of historical depth in your region causes you not to connect to your ancient history like other people, and indeed, you are not aware of how deep in history other ethnic groups have had their systems established so you do not appreciate how much of a ridicule you make of yourselves when you apply local Igbo land-stealing techniques to try to steal other peoples' lands, when you do not even belong to their ethnic groups.

coolscott:
Igbos might have been a majority in terms of number of people, but when it came to political strength, igbos have been the minority of the minorities.

Igbos should keep quiet when other political entities are speaking.

There was no Igbo nation in the past. If it existed, where was its military?

What territory was its military responsible for protecting?

Without territorial integrity, there is no nation and this historical "no nation" situation was brought about about by the fact that Igbo people did not have it in them to foster political structures beyond the village or clan levels.

That is why you never heard of the igbo military or anything of that sought. But you would hear of many inter-village wars (or inter-clan wars) between Igbo settlements. That was the reach of their capacity to create political units.

So when we ancient south-south (and indeed south-west) kindgoms with dynasties spanning centuries speak, I expect igbos to be quiet. Igbos are the real minorities ethnically, when it comes to things that matter. And maybe that is why they relentlessly misbehave all over Nigeria. Civilisation does not run deep in them hence the complete non-existence of ethnic decorum.

coolscott:
If you only knew the shame of these things you are doing. If you could only appreciate the sincerity with which other ethnic groups disrespect you for your terrible misbehaviour.

SLIDEwaxie:
@coolscott, u go prosper. these people needs to learn.
so, u mean to say that na because dem dey sell igbos to the white make dem learn that acient igbo langusage?
interesting!!!

one thing abt the igbos: if they stay to long, they claim your heritage.

coolscott:
Sure, I am from the south-south and have Bonny relatives. Bonny chiefs must still have slave manifestos in their ancient files, books and records. Their advancement in terms of civilisation started too early because they had to interact/do business with the white man.

You cannot wish what you wish was your history into reality. It is sad that people in the capital city of Bonny kingdom speak that odd version of igbo but how that came to be cannot also be swept away. Attached is an academic article from the guardian, stating these facts.

The writer tried to be as unbiased as possible and I do respect him for that

coolscott:
Clown. The Bonny language is Ibani, has nothing similar with igbo. They only speak that version of igbo in the ancient capital city of Bonny kingdom because Bonny people sold igbo slaves to the white man, and being a cruel trade, they had to learn the igbo language (to speak with and before the slaves) and conceal their own language from the slaves so they could make bargains over them at will without the slaves comprehension.

Name one Bonny person with an Igbo name. The Ndoki's sold you to Bonny people as slaves. Slavery was your relationship with the town (except for instances where your masters decided to give you your freedom) now your thieving soul continues this self-destructive smear on yourselves by trying to steal in broad daylight. Like a man bathing on the streets at noon, convinced it is 2:00am and that no one is seeing.

I attach below for your viewing pleasure the interaction between myself and another nairalander like yourself. It explains your situation

john124:
Good morning nairalanders this is an excerpt from an old thread showing that bonny people are ibos just a slight difference in their language with igbo.
From observation this argument has been on since 2009 on many forums.
Tonye barcanister you are making me go crazy with your unverifiable claims that ndokis are not igbos. I want to believe that you're from one of the kalabari speaking regions including abonemma,buguma, degema, bakana etc.
I grew up in Rivers state so i know for sure that ndokis, bonny people are igbo speaking tribes with slight difference in their grammatical meanings.
I hail from AkS (AKWA IBOM) and i know some regions in akwa ibom are linked to old greek and isreal.
There is even a forum on facebook that tells and proves that their traditions and festivals are similar to that of ibo. And i want to challenge you to move into any ndoki land and bring with you proof and evidence that they are otherwise.
http://igbodefender.com /2011/08/10/the-tight- igbo-connections-with-bonny/
Bonny is a town in the Nigerian Niger Delta. It is known for it’s Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) terminal. But what many don’t know is that the most indigenes of that town are descendants of Igbos who would have been sold into slavery, had it not been for Olaudah Equiano’s campaign against the Transatlantic Slave Trade.
The Igbos who settled in Bonny developed a new dialect called Bonny Igbo. In fact, the first bible ever published in Igbo was printed in the Bonny Igbo dialect.
Bonny is also famous for being the place where Jaja of Opobo, an Igbo slave from Amaigbo, in today’s Imo State, first rose to prominence. He later led is followers to form the neihbouring kingdom of Opobo.
One of the most famous Bonny families today is the Jumbo family, which is descended from Oko Jumbo, another enterprising Igboman who was Jaja’s strongest rival in Bonny.
© igbodefender.com 2011

chuna1985:
Wen Yoruba people start lying, I will know

coolscott:
Your version of cowardice is a unique and pathetic one.
You are Truth or Reality Cowards. When confronted with a truth your puny minds do not like, you bury your head in the self-created sand of the delusion that the opinion airer is Yoruba.

Sorry please, because as you bury your head in the sand of that delusion, the rest of your body (especially your behind) is up in the air for everyone to see your folly. Whenever you choose to take your heads outta the sand, the rest of the world will still be there to help you adjust to the reality you thought your sand would erase.

lawrenceunaa:
y should I believe the author was unbiased when he used the word Bastardized for a language

Secondly he has no point in saying the bonny(s) gave up their language for Igbo while hiding theirs. Pure lies .are the slaves in much population than the bonny(s)
I can only believe such histories if it came from pages of a history book but unfortunately ur govt banned history studies.vanguard is ur source, then who was the authors source.

coolscott:
[size=13pt]My grandfather was a wealthy transporter in the east (Aba to be precise). He owned the first ever transport company in Aba. He also was a palm oil plantation owner with vast palm plantations which produced palm oil for export.

His son, my uncle, told me that when he would drive them as children with his land rover to the farm to do whatever they could with the workers on the farm, Naked Ngwa villages would be running after them shouting, "Oyibo, oyibo!" because they were light skinned and had the luxury of a land rover.

The point to note here is that they were mostly naked. With only some patches of rafia to cover them. This was in the early 1950s

The further point I am trying to make here is that when it came to being developed and civilized, you guys only started yesterday. Only as far back as the 40s and 50s you were still moving around naked and I will attach proof here.

Now you do not appreciate the orderliness of keeping records (socio-historic records). Your villages did not read/write from a leadership level, which was absent or rag tag. Nor do you place any respect-worthy amount of value of reading the recorded facts.

Now if the facts were different from what I have stated here, you would have known the full details of your history. You would have read it. You would have know the details that led to the existence of Jaja of Opobo. How Ajayi Crowther arrived Nigeria after leaving on a slave ship, etc. I was made to read these things in my early teens because true social education runs in us.

Now that is why I can understand when you say how can you believe the author is not biased. You see, you do not read and have no counter reference point comparing the author's writing to which you may lay claim to the author's writing being inaccurate or false. You have the one thing your kind go by - the imaginations of your mind influenced by delusions of grandeur relative to other peoples.

This is one thing nairaland has been good for. Allowing for information to be brought to us all. Letting us get educated about stuff we might never have become informed about (even though some choose, like the proverbial ostrich, to bury faces in the sand in trying to escape realities they do not like).

Below is an excerpt from the same writer and on the same page as he gives us an insight as to the states of Igbos in Enugu in 1947. You will notice that he is not really talking them down, but is trying to highlight how fast they improved from the state they were in in 1947[/size]