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winner01:
Lol, Jesus came to show us how to live, to show us that we can be perfect. He said "Be ye perfect
that is what we strive towards as christians.

@ bolded, He has a new convenant withbus and a new commandment too, here it is;

"But a new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another."

Love love love!!!, Our God is Love

Are you saying your god was a badass in the past? So how do you explain hell fire? Who created hell fire and if your god is love,why force poor people to pay tithe?

The Bible tells us that god sacrificed his only son so that we can go to Heaven (John 3:16), but the Bible also tells us that he raised his son back from the dead again. If god didn’t really lose his son, then how is that a sacrifice?

Finally,what is your definition of Love?

ODUBEZE:
Ifeness, can you calm yourself for once? Relax!
You are just mixing the whole thing up!
Okay. please follow these steps:
1. Go back to the first article you wrote where my name was mentioned.
2. Are you there?
3. Good!
4. Now, give me biblical references of all the claims you made there.
I pray for God guidance as we continue.

Just say you have nothing to say!

ifeness:
Just say you have nothing to say!

Lolz. You speak of a mysterious Book you have no knowledge about ifeness.
It is very very obvious.
A popular adage says " I will not use my left hand to describe my fathers' house.
I know and have witness the powers of the supreme God. So it will be difficult for you to tell me otherwise.
If you really want to know about Him my offer still stands.
If not its better you change for the better before it is too late!
Have a Holy Spirit filled day.

winner01:
Many people believe zombies and vampires are real. To me they dont exist.

I will be as "wise" as you are to devote my time to refuting their existence.

gold

I won't even argue about their existence in the movie section though I love resident evil

winner01:
Lol, Jesus came to show us how to live, to show us that we can be perfect. He said "Be ye perfect
that is what we strive towards as christians.

@ bolded, He has a new convenant withbus and a new commandment too, here it is;

"But a new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another."

Love love love!!!, Our God is Love

The same Jesus preached hate of family. You have to hate your family in order to follow Jesus.

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple". Luke 14:26

ODUBEZE:
Lolz. You speak of a mysterious Book you have no knowledge about ifeness.
It is very very obvious.
A popular adage says " I will not use my left hand to describe my fathers' house.
I know and have witness the powers of the supreme God. So it will be difficult for you to tell me otherwise.
If you really want to know about Him my offer still stands.
If not its better you change for the better before it is too late!
Have a Holy Spirit filled day.

Trust me we can talk about it anyday and I will help you learn more about the supposed holy book

Ifeness, all your posts against Christianity stems from the old testament. Please try and read the bible about the founder of Christianity Jesus Christ. And come back here to pick holes in his word and way of live, if you were any wise you would listen to him and change your way of life accordingly.

You do not have an idea about how you existed, some atheists claim that if there is a God at the end they would explain themselves to him. Really funny, how do you explain yourself when the evidence is there for you to see.

A psychologist once said the reason we keep looking for a God is that inherent in our DNA is the search for a Father. If evolution was our origin such wouldn't be in our DNA, would it?

You know the truth but decide to follow a blatant lie cause of the freedom to have pleasure in this world. This world is just like an open cell, you are free to do as you like but the end is coming when the jail cells would be shut and there would be left only regret and tears, I pray not to be there with you.

Fadman4real:
Ifeness, all your posts against Christianity stems from the old testament. Please try and read the bible about the founder of Christianity Jesus Christ. And come back here to pick holes in his word and way of live, if you were any wise you would listen to him and change your way of life accordingly.

You do not have an idea about how you existed, some atheists claim that if there is a God at the end they would explain themselves to him. Really funny, how do you explain yourself when the evidence is there for you to see.

A psychologist once said the reason we keep looking for a God is that inherent in our DNA is the search for a Father. If evolution was our origin such wouldn't be in our DNA, would it?

You know the truth but decide to follow a blatant lie cause of the freedom to have pleasure in this world. This world is just like an open cell, you are free to do as you like but the end is coming when the jail cells would be shut and there would be left only regret and tears, I pray not to be there with you.

I'm I supposed to even reply you? Perhaps you should read other creation books before the bible and realise the bible copied their story.

Have you heard of the rapper called Rick Ross ? He stole the name and story of the real Rick Ross. But if you
Listen to his music,you will think he actually lived the drug life.

The bible is not real, it's stories were stolen. Why would any sane person consider it to be the truth?

You are disgusting to keep claiming I pursue the pleasures of this world. You Christians judge so much,this is exactly what the devilish book makes you do. You are worldly if you say no to Yahweh the monster huh?

The New Testament is a trap. All that story didn't happen literally. They are what goes on in your mind. It's basically telling you how the Pisces Age will fight the Age of Aquirus. I know your indoctrinated mind won't understand this. You are the Christ you have been worshiping all along.

Do you even reason when you read your beloved book?

There is no God and I won't be explaining myself to no nobody once I wake up from this reality. I need to let you know you create your reality and the writers of the bible know how powerful you are. You create worlds and realities by believing in them,hence you are trapped in that world you create. Why would you think so low of yourself? Are you a baby?


If you totally believe in hell trust me that's what you will experience. Have you noticed only Christians dream about hell fire? Or those who unconsciously think it's true. You are basically what and how you think. A polluted mind cannot create a decent world.

ifeness:
Trust me we can talk about it anyday and I will help you learn more about the supposed holy book

Help yourself first by producing the biblical references for your claims in the first article.

ODUBEZE:
Help yourself first by producing the biblical references for your claims in the first article.

The whole book of Genesis for example isn't a Jewish story and I can prove it.

ifeness:
The whole book of Genesis for example isn't a Jewish story and I can prove it.

Guy, give me biblical reference to your first claims.

ODUBEZE:
Guy, give me biblical reference to your first claims.

The Bible is not the only book.

Look up one of my threads and you will see. I can't be bothered to repost.

https://www.nairaland.com/2680111/decided-christians-some-concret-research#39201018

Learn to reason without the Bible

ifeness:
The Bible is not the only book.

Following your claims that you teach in Deeper Life which you can only do with the Holy Bible. So for now let us limit it to that.

and if you cannot do that with the Holy Bible, stop saying things you are not sure of

ODUBEZE:
Following your claims that you teach in Deeper Life which you can only do with the Holy Bible. So for now let us limit it to that.

Yes I did and I realized the stories were lies. I actually discovered the rest of several stories in other books which existed long before the Bible.

There is nothing holy about the bible. Can you tell me anything holy about the Bible?

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ifeness:
Yes I did and I realized the stories were lies. I actually discovered the rest of several stories in other books which existed long before the Bible.

There is nothing holy about the bible. Can you tell me anything holy about the Bible?

guy, but you were quoting the bible that was why I responded but since its another book you know so well no problem.
However, if you truly want to know about the scriptures, let me know the aspect then we can study it together.

ifeness:
I'm I supposed to even reply you? Perhaps you should read other creation books before the bible and realise the bible copied their story.

Have you heard of the rapper called Rick Ross ? He stole the name and story of the real Rick Ross. But if you
Listen to his music,you will think he actually lived the drug life.

The bible is not real, it's stories were stolen. Why would any sane person consider it to be the truth?

You are disgusting to keep claiming I pursue the pleasures of this world. You Christians judge so much,this is exactly what the devilish book makes you do. You are worldly if you say no to Yahweh the monster huh?

The New Testament is a trap. All that story didn't happen literally. They are what goes on in your mind. It's basically telling you how the Pisces Age will fight the Age of Aquirus. I know your indoctrinated mind won't understand this. You are the Christ you have been worshiping all along.

Do you even reason when you read your beloved book?

There is no God and I won't be explaining myself to no nobody once I wake up from this reality. I need to let you know you create your reality and the writers of the bible know how powerful you are. You create worlds and realities by believing in them,hence you are trapped in that world you create. Why would you think so low of yourself? Are you a baby?


If you totally believe in hell trust me that's what you will experience. Have you noticed only Christians dream about hell fire? Or those who unconsciously think it's true. You are basically what and how you think. A polluted mind cannot create a decent world.

You keep deceiving yourself, how do you think a made up story would be able to stand the tide and is still growing stronger till this day, 2000 years after it was told. Do you know the story of Paul, he was one of the enemies of christ in the bible before he had a revelation of christ and changed his ways, he was one of the most prominent preachers travelling miles to preach the message of christ, he and other apostles were beaten killed and tormented just as true christians have been since the beginning as Jesus said in his word.

"Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you" (Matthew 5:10-11).

Paul was not among the disciples he was their tormentor in chief, and when he met christ he became one of the greatest preachers of christ, that story is fake too. You as a nigerian would have heard of apostle Ayo Babalola that God used mightly in the south west to preach the message of God and healed many people, raised up the dead with the power of the most high God, that is also fake right.

Do you know the story of the watergate scandal in america, six very powerful people could not keep a secret when under a little pressure and do you imagine that 12 disciples who were mostly illiterate as at that time would have been able to lie that Jesus Christ did not rise from the grave after all the pressure they had from the jews and romans during their time?

The isrealites still do not belief Jesus Christ is the messiah but would any isrealite say Jesus Christ never existed?
There are lots of archeological evidence of Jesus Christ existense. Would that be possible since he never existed?
There are lots of stories of people's live changing after they met Jesus Christ and he brought peace to their souls. Have you ever heard of stories like the message of santa claus bringing peace to people.
Is there any other religion that is more persecuted than christianity today and ever since?

You are disgusting to keep claiming I pursue the pleasures of this world. You Christians judge so much,this is exactly what the devilish book makes you do. You are worldly if you say no to Yahweh the monster huh?

I apologise if my comment made it seem that I was judging you, the truth is that Jesus Christ said in Mathew 7: 1 Do not Judge others. I wasnt trying to judge you but only trying to explain to you that the pleasures of this world cannot save us they can only lead us into damnation. We cant satisfy the flesh and expect the spirit to grow, we have to drop one for the other. Atheism relates to freedom to do anything you like as you wish, but the word of God said that we shall know the truth and the truth shall set us free.

I am only trying to make you realize the truth so you can be free from the bondage of sin and death. So you can be free to serve God in truth and in spirit not chasing birds and super stories.

May God help you as you would realize the truth in Jesus Name

Shallom

ODUBEZE:
guy, but you were quoting the bible that was why I responded but since its another book you know so well no problem.
However, if you truly want to know about the scriptures, let me know the aspect then we can study it together.

I asked you a question. What is holy about the bible? Is it the creation story or stoning of kids to death or Elijah flying on a flying horse or a man hung on a cross/tree or a man supposedly staying in the belly of a fish for 3 days or a list of 10 commandment that did not make sense etc.

What exactly is there to study?

Question for you; Where did Cain find his wife?

Fadman4real:
You keep deceiving yourself, how do you think a made up story would be able to stand the tide and is still growing stronger till this day, 2000 years after it was told. Do you know the story of Paul, he was one of the enemies of christ in the bible before he had a revelation of christ and changed his ways, he was one of the most prominent preachers travelling miles to preach the message of christ, he and other apostles were beaten killed and tormented just as true christians have been since the beginning as Jesus said in his word.

"Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you" (Matthew 5:10-11).

Paul was not among the disciples he was their tormentor in chief, and when he met christ he became one of the greatest preachers of christ, that story is fake too. You as a nigerian would have heard of apostle Ayo Babalola that God used mightly in the south west to preach the message of God and healed many people, raised up the dead with the power of the most high God, that is also fake right.

Do you know the story of the watergate scandal in america, six very powerful people could not keep a secret when under a little pressure and do you imagine that 12 disciples who were mostly illiterate as at that time would have been able to lie that Jesus Christ did not rise from the grave after all the pressure they had from the jews and romans during their time?

The isrealites still do not belief Jesus Christ is the messiah but would any isrealite say Jesus Christ never existed?
There are lots of archeological evidence of Jesus Christ existense. Would that be possible since he never existed?
There are lots of stories of people's live changing after they met Jesus Christ and he brought peace to their souls. Have you ever heard of stories like the message of santa claus bringing peace to people.
Is there any other religion that is more persecuted than christianity today and ever since?



I apologise if my comment made it seem that I was judging you, the truth is that Jesus Christ said in Mathew 7: 1 Do not Judge others. I wasnt trying to judge you but only trying to explain to you that the pleasures of this world cannot save us they can only lead us into damnation. We cant satisfy the flesh and expect the spirit to grow, we have to drop one for the other. Atheism relates to freedom to do anything you like as you wish, but the word of God said that we shall know the truth and the truth shall set us free.

I am only trying to make you realize the truth so you can be free from the bondage of sin and death. So you can be free to serve God in truth and in spirit not chasing birds and super stories.

May God help you as you would realize the truth in Jesus Name

Shallom

I am happy to tell you that the only thing constant is change. Lies can go on for 100billion years but the truth will eventually prevail. The Age of Aquarius is the Age of truth,lies of every form will begin to be crumbled from their foundations. Already the world is witnessing the death of Religion. No matter how you distort the truth,it will always come back together.

Paul was a man whose philosophy actually contradicted the so called "Jesus" philosophies . Nothing in the Bible ever happened in physical reality
In it are story not meant to be in a history book. Religious leaders have made a mess of it and turned it into something different. The whole idea is we humans are the lights of the world,we are eternal beings,some people may call it God etc....nothing more

Paul contradicted himself in many ways.His teaching contradicted the ones allegedly said by Jesus. I could give lots of examples on that.

I have no affiliation with any Nigerian Pastors. They all extort their member for money.

There is nothing spiritual about the Bible. Nothing in it physically happened.

God is in everyone hidden somewhere. 99% of humans can't access it.

I will use your bible verse John 4:24. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth

Basically what you are being told here is that God is not a father or a mother or a physical person, but an invisible intelligence without bod but with mind. In other words, photon,a spark inside of you which you can access by separating yourself from all belief and attachments.

All through the Bible,you are made to know several times that You/Human are the God. Your body is only a vessel to the real you inside. But you can become a prisoner to this body.

If you are like most people you have to believe the bible literally anyway because the church said so, and your afraid you will go to hell which happens to be the name of the Norwegian Goddess of the Underworld.

ifeness:
I am happy to tell you that the only thing constant is change. Lies can go on for 100billion years but the truth will eventually prevail. The Age of Aquarius is the Age of truth,lies of every form will begin to be crumbled from their foundations. Already the world is witnessing the death of Religion. No matter how you distort the truth,it will always come back together.

Paul was a man whose philosophy actually contradicted the so called "Jesus" philosophies . Nothing in the Bible ever happened in physical reality
In it are story not meant to be in a history book. Religious leaders have made a mess of it and turned it into something different. The whole idea is we humans are the lights of the world,we are eternal beings,some people may call it God etc....nothing more

Paul contradicted himself in many ways.His teaching contradicted the ones allegedly said by Jesus. I could give lots of examples on that.

I have no affiliation with any Nigerian Pastors. They all extort their member for money.

There is nothing spiritual about the Bible. Nothing in it physically happened.

God is in everyone hidden somewhere. 99% of humans can't access it.

I will use your bible verse John 4:24. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth

Basically what you are being told here is that God is not a father or a mother or a physical person, but an invisible intelligence without bod but with mind. In other words, photon,a spark inside of you which you can access by separating yourself from all belief and attachments.

All through the Bible,you are made to know several times that You/Human are the God. Your body is only a vessel to the real you inside. But you can become a prisoner to this body.

I wonder how come you accept that Paul existed but Jesus dosent.

Is it because you can find fault in the words of Paul but you cant in the words of Jesus Christ. Why not create a thread with proofs of why you think Jesus Christ dosent exist.

All through the Bible,you are made to know several times that You/Human are the God. Your body is only a vessel to the real you inside. But you can become a prisoner to this body.

What the bible means by saying God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the gods. in Psalm 82:6, here the psalmit was talking about the human Judges and magistrates. Calling a human magistrate a “god” indicates three things: 1) he has authority over other human beings, 2) the power he wields as a civil authority is to be feared, and 3) he derives his power and authority from God Himself, who is pictured as judging the whole earth in verse 8. In the book of (Revelation 20:4) God said the saints would Judge the unbelievers who do not belief in God at the great white throne of judgement.

This use of the word “gods” to refer to humans is rare, but it is found elsewhere in the Old Testament. For example, when God sent Moses to Pharaoh, He said, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh” (Exodus 7:1). This simply means that Moses, as the messenger of God, was speaking God’s words and would therefore be God’s representative to the king. The Hebrew word Elohim is translated “judges” in Exodus 21:6 and 22:8, 9, and 28.

Now, let’s look at how Jesus uses this passage. Jesus had just claimed to be the Son of God (John 10:25-30). The unbelieving Jews respond by charging Jesus with blasphemy, since He claimed to be God (verse 33). Jesus then quotes Psalm 82:6, reminding the Jews that the Law refers to mere men—albeit men of authority and prestige—as “gods.” Jesus’ point is this: you charge me with blasphemy based on my use of the title “Son of God”; yet your own Scriptures apply the same term to magistrates in general. If those who hold a divinely appointed office can be considered “gods,” how much more can the One whom God has chosen and sent (verses 34-36)?

The atheist seems to have grudge with Christianity and not Islam. Why ifeness? I know some Britons who frowns at my calling in the name of Jesus but don't have issues with the Muslims.

[quote author=Pyrrho post=39389977]It's easier to be a Christian.

If you ask why God had to go through all this stress to get us to heaven(creating evil, hell, Satan, tree of good and evil, giving birth to Ismael, punishing jesus, earth-quakes, flood)? They say, "he knows best", "don't question him". That applies to when you lose a family or friend too.

If you ask simple philosophical questions, you get 'ready-made' replies.

Well, we just got tired of self-deceit that's all. No one will see God and deny it, would they?

can u tel me d meaning of (unquestinable) and also the meanin of )God(. pls read psm 115 vs 3. Bros take for instant u own a poultry farm of over 100 fowls, wateva u do 4 them who wil questn you sir? If no, why are questn ur God when u ar just the hand-made of God just like stone, light, animal etc. Is it because he made u to reason beta than lower animals? Sir try to knw d difrent btw humans {physica} and celestia(spirtual) the gap is just tøo wide

kel4soft:
The atheist seems to have grudge with Christianity and not Islam. Why ifeness? I know some Britons who frowns at my calling in the name of Jesus but don't have issues with the Muslims.

I was raised in a christian family that's why. Islam and Christianity are pretty much the same religion just in different paths. They both brainwash their members.

ifeness:
I was raised in a christian family that's why. Islam and Christianity are pretty much the same religion just in different paths. They both brainwash their members.

They don't brainwashed me. I've seen the supernatural power of God in my life. Do you belief in spirits?

kel4soft:
They don't brainwashed me. I've seen the supernatural power of God in my life. Do you belief in spirits?

We are all spirits. Only that some spirits are still asleep and caught up in religion and ignorance. There is no difference between you and God. The One is the All and the All are the One.

ifeness:
We are all spirits. Only that some spirits are still asleep and caught up in religion and ignorance. There is no difference between you and God. The One is the All and the All are the One.

Is there no difference btw man and the robots He invented?

BETATRON:
Is there no difference btw man and the robots He invented?

Who is the He?

BETATRON:
Is there no difference btw man and the robots He invented?

Who is the He? Robot and man are the same

ifeness:
Who is the He? Robot and man are the same

by He I mean man Lol..do robots reproduce?

BETATRON:
by He I mean man
Lol..do robots reproduce?

As the years go on robots will take over and replicate themselves