₦airaland Forum

biafranqueen:
Even though it is not recognized now does not mean that we can not use peaceful means to actualize it.
Are you familiar with Weimar Germany which was composed of Germany, Poland and Russia?
I know it is normal for emotions to overflow when countries breakup but you should look at the bright side. You will now get a bigger share of the "South-South oil revenue" so cheer up

Go to please... Nigerians only!

kel4soft:
Because of the Oyel right?

Did they take oil swear for you?

kel4soft:
Like how the ideas have turned South East states into Dubai. Abeg park well.

Ideals go with policies.
We don't control that in Nigeria hence we are all in a zoo!

carnegiefan:
The name really doesn't matter. What matters is that it is NOT Aligbo because there is not much to be proud of about being Igbo today.
Our people are viciously SELFISH, SELF-CENTERED, GREEDY, and mindlessly craven.
You see them working very hard to destroy their brothers out of jealousy and st.eewpid wickedness.
Your success as a person elicites very bad reaction from your own relatives, acquaintances and friends as if you caused their failures (or whatever is their problem).
I'm not proud of being Igbo; but I'm very proud being BIAFRAN.
Even Nnamdi Kanu noticed the same issues and made the same conclusion.

Nna man come on not all are that bad. Every ethnic group and race has its bad people that are "SELFISH, SELF-CENTERED, GREEDY"
We have to talk about this, are you assuming that when bad Igbo's change to Biafran they will automatically turn to angels like Buharis Ministers? .
I also disagree with you why should we take on a name given to us by the oppressors?

carnegiefan:
I think I'll open a thread on these issues I'm talking about here.

Biko tag me.

Ilaje44:
Weimar Germany was never made up of Germany, Russia and Poland. Germany was Germany, while Weimar Germany was bigger than the Germany of today, it never contained the two other countries. Germany though lost a relatively big chunk of its territories to both countries after WW2. The territories lost to Poland include Pomerania, Silesia, part of East and West Prussia, while they lost part of East Prussia to the USSR (today's Russia).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic

Today part of
Germany
Poland
Russia
Belgium
Netherlands
The capital was Berlin and the language was German, soo....

kel4soft:
Because of the Oyel right?

We are so over the oil thing. We will manage with what we have in Imo and Anambra. The waters in other parts are so polluted we don't want to waste time, resorces and energy cleaning up that mess.

Obiagu1:
Ideals go with policies.
We don't control that in Nigeria hence we are all in a zoo!

Every state is independent to an extent to create her policies for the betterment of her state. Tinubu raised Lagos IGR with Fashola increasing it. Same with Rotimi Amaechi in Rivers on her IGR. Even Ebonyi under the former Governor was able to raised her IGR. Not saying this is all about policies, but just to show you, no one is hindering any group from progress. Your people held committees chairmen in National Assembly but in works and other important sectors yet, you lots have the worst federal roads and contracts awarded to your indigenes. Atleast let me see the little you can do for your respective states before trying to agitate for independence you don't have the capacity to sustain. Having said that, if energies expended on this Biafra are channel to the Federal roads in your region. I would have support the course.

biafranqueen:
We are so over the oil thing. We will manage with what we have in Imo and Anambra. The waters in other parts are so polluted we don't want to waste time, resorces and energy cleaning up that mess.

Thank you.

biafranqueen:
EasternLion Emmalexabl NOBLEDANDY Abagworo come and tell us about the word Biafra biko!

Biafra is a word like Gambia...
Both are nations...
What else do you want to know.

NOBLEDANDY:
Biafra is a word like Gambia...
Both are nations...
What else do you want to know.

Really but I thought you were saying it has an Igbo meaning?

biafranqueen:
Nna man come on not all are that bad. Every ethnic group and race has its bad people that are "SELFISH, SELF-CENTERED, GREEDY"
We have to talk about this, are you assuming that when bad Igbo's change to Biafran they will automatically turn to angels like Buharis Ministers? .
I also disagree with you why should we take on a name given to us by the oppressors?

I agree, but Biafra is an IDEAL (something that is supposed to be better than what our culture provides).
If we cannot aim for that ideal, there is really no need to leave Nigeria.


BTW I opened that thread.

biafranqueen:
Really but I thought you were saying it has an Igbo meaning?

Now you are coming outta your shell...
Since you were thoughting can you from your thought now tell me when I said it has an Igbo meaning or else...

Except the usual phrase everyone use which is freedom a. K.a. come and join.

Abi, you should also tell me the meaning of England in English language.

Biafra doesn't mean anything, it's just some African word, probably from Cameroon, hence the mapping, that the Portuguese screwed up and it stuck, and now people are trying to attach meaning to it because one man hastily suggested that the eastern Nigerian country should be named after the bight in the 1960s, which was named by Europeans. Furthermore there's nothing like an ancient Biafra kingdom. That's completely made up.

carnegiefan:
The name really doesn't matter. What matters is that it is NOT Aligbo because there is not much to be proud of about being Igbo today.
Our people are viciously SELFISH, SELF-CENTERED, GREEDY, and mindlessly craven.
You see them working very hard to destroy their brothers out of jealousy and st.eewpid wickedness.
Your success as a person elicites very bad reaction from your own relatives, acquaintances and friends as if you caused their failures (or whatever is their problem).
I'm not proud of being Igbo; but I'm very proud being BIAFRAN.
Even Nnamdi Kanu noticed the same issues and made the same conclusion.

That doesn't make any sense. Biafran soldiers were also raping and harassing people under the name Biafra. What's the difference between calling a thief Igbo and Biafran? What transformation comes from dropping Igbo, which has a pre-European meaning, for Biafra which has no meaning and is a symbol of European imperialism. Has the mostly unsuccessful MASSOB not been using Biafra for decades now?

kel4soft:
Every state is independent to an extent to create her policies for the betterment of her state. Tinubu raised Lagos IGR with Fashola increasing it. Same with Rotimi Amaechi in Rivers on her IGR. Even Ebonyi under the former Governor was able to raised her IGR. Not saying this is all about policies, but just to show you, no one is hindering any group from progress. Your people held committees chairmen in National Assembly but in works and other important sectors yet, you lots have the worst federal roads and contracts awarded to your indigenes. Atleast let me see the little you can do for your respective states before trying to agitate for independence you don't have the capacity to sustain. Having said that, if energies expended on this Biafra are channel to the Federal roads in your region. I would have support the course.

Do you know what is fiscal policy?
Do you know what is monetary policy?
Do you know what is foreign policy?
Do you know what is economic policy?
Do you know what is trade policy?
Look all these policies and more go in tandem and we don't control that hence we are all in a zoo!

Will local taxation industrialise a region when they don't even control policing?
One useless policy from the centre will just render your local effort worthless.

Obiagu1:
Do you know what is fiscal policy?
Do you know what is monetary policy?
Do you know what is foreign policy?
Do you know what is economic policy?
Do you know what is trade policy?
Look all these policies and more go in tandem and we don't control that hence we are all in a zoo!

Will local taxation industrialise a region when they don't even control policing?
One useless policy from the centre will just render your local effort worthless.

Stop trying too hard to justify failures of your leaders. So the policies driven by Fashola and others to drive IGR in their respective states? Like I said, let me see what you have been able to achieve in your region first.

You asked four questions of Do you? Be truthful to yourself, these challenges have been there when you were screaming #GEJTill2019, yet serious states governments were doing their best to break even. Like Senator Sani Shenu said, Biafra is a fall back to GEJ's 2015 defeat which you lots are yet to recover. Even the SS have moved on.

Obiagu1:
The original Biafra would have been better for the Igbo than with the Hausa and Yoruba, people we have no interactions, connections, culture nor relationship with. The British really messed up.
I think Nigeria is the greatest injustice to Africa by the Europeans!

If a country comprising current Biafra, Cameroon (minus the Hausas), Equitorial Guinea and Gabon was created instead, it would have been awesome. We are all bantoid.

Yea
Super awesome

chai dz.is d dumbest post ve eva seen..... biafra doesnt derive its name from igbo ...or u.mean to.say.Gabon is also a.biafran..... biafra has notin to.do with.igbo den

lisimmo:
bight of biafra ( eastern Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, and northern Gabon. ) was recognised, not biafra as a country.

Oga, Biafra na Biafra whether Na Bight or Republic.

kel4soft:
Stop trying too hard to justify failures of your leaders. So the policies driven by Fashola and others to drive IGR in their respective states? Like I said, let me see what you have been able to achieve in your region first.

You asked four questions of Do you? Be truthful to yourself, these challenges have been there when you were screaming #GEJTill2019, yet serious states governments were doing their best to break even. Like Senator Sani Shenu said, Biafra is a fall back to GEJ's 2015 defeat which you lots are yet to recover. Even the SS have moved on.

That's not true GEJs defeat has nothing to do with Biafra. Check did I create this moniker after the defeat. Biafra was an idology, an under ground movement that we started in Nnewi to re-industrialize Igboland, to become a manufacturing hub. Some did vegetable or palm oil, cars, fish farming, car parts, commercial farming etc; we helped each other secure loans at low interest or no interest from those that could afford millions for the cause. Hence my name Biafranqueen because it has always been my dream to build up Anaedo aka Nnewi. I spoke about it to no end in 2011. We pressured Peter Obi and we secured grants from GEJ on a federal level. We are job creators and innovators, we were moving in shadows no noise, only one got besides himself running for Governor, blowing his money,making noise. These new ones are not strategizing and in fact talk of war can destroy what we have accomplished in the pass 6 years. Are losing GEJ was business not emotions.

jidxin:
chai dz.is d dumbest post ve eva seen..... biafra doesnt derive its name from igbo ...or u.mean to.say.Gabon is also a.biafran..... biafra has notin to.do with.igbo den

Someone ask nothing wronging clarification. Each one teach one only an un asked question is stupid.

KRILMIJAY:
Oga, Biafra na Biafra whether Na Bight or Republic.

we dey hear

kel4soft:
Stop trying too hard to justify failures of your leaders. So the policies driven by Fashola and others to drive IGR in their respective states? Like I said, let me see what you have been able to achieve in your region first.

You asked four questions of Do you? Be truthful to yourself, these challenges have been there when you were screaming #GEJTill2019, yet serious states governments were doing their best to break even. Like Senator Sani Shenu said, Biafra is a fall back to GEJ's 2015 defeat which you lots are yet to recover. Even the SS have moved on.

Fashola with all that IGR nobody could feature a thread of his accomplishments in 8 years, on top of that the debt profile is unbelievable. He is a bad example.

NOBLEDANDY:
Now you are coming outta your shell...
Since you were thoughting can you from your thought now tell me when I said it has an Igbo meaning or else...

Except the usual phrase everyone use which is freedom a. K.a. come and join.

Abi, you should also tell me the meaning of England in English language.

Don't be so defensive you guys are going no where with this rude toutish way you communicate. The educated and highly sucessessful people can not relate to the way you people are agiatating. Your guys suck at publicity , what I hear on Radio Biafra is a big turn off. Nobody will listen to those that have not built their own compounds in Igboland. The pictures you guys show of Nnamdi and his wife wearing Muslim garments is ludicris. Pictures of hungry and tattered guys with out dated guns is shameful. You guys need help promting your cause.

biafranqueen:
It was not just a country my Dear it was an entire Kingdom ran mostly by Arochukwu people from modern day Abia State. By the mid-nineteenth century the Aro world included 150 diaspora settlements across the Biafra hinterland.

Entire kingdom ke ? can you educate us further on this your Biafran kingdom? Who are the kings that established and ruled the kingdom? Where are the historical, archeological and literary records?

All you have written is just a figment of your imagination, you just dug up some highly inaccurate maps, with a biafara or biafar floating in the middle of nowhere and labelled it kingdom.
Even in your map ( probably fake), your Biafra is not even situated in present day Igbo land, it was situated more in the Cameroons and central Africa.

Now tell me when the Igbos started establishing kingdoms.

biafranqueen:
That's not true GEJs defeat has nothing to do with Biafra. Check did I create this moniker after the defeat. Biafra was an idology, an under ground movement that we started in Nnewi to re-industrialize Igboland, to become a manufacturing hub. Some did vegetable or palm oil, cars, fish farming, car parts, commercial farming etc; we helped each other secure loans at low interest or no interest from those that could afford millions for the cause. Hence my name Biafranqueen because it has always been my dream to build up Anaedo aka Nnewi. I spoke about it to no end in 2011. We pressured Peter Obi and we secured grants from GEJ on a federal level. We are job creators and innovators, we were moving in shadows no noise, only one got besides himself running for Governor, blowing his money,making noise. These new ones are not strategizing and in fact talk of war can destroy what we have accomplished in the pass 6 years. Are losing GEJ was business not emotions.

I was referring to Obiagu1 not you on fall back to GEJ's defeat. But seriously you have not told me how things will be different if you lots were asked to leave. You guys are still struggling to convince the SS to join you. SE is landlocked and your people who are business men are unwilling to support this course. The video that went viral on how Ndigbo in USA rejected Kanu's arms request with him receiving some home truth counselling he'll never forget. You seems to also defend the inability of your leaders to perform instead you are blaming the Federal for their failures which is really wrong.

biafranqueen:
Don't be so defensive you guys are going no where with this rude toutish way you communicate. The educated and highly sucessessful people can not relate to the way you people are agiatating. Your guys suck at publicity , what I hear on Radio Biafra is a big turn off. Nobody will listen to those that have not built their own compounds in Igboland. The pictures you guys show of Nnamdi and his wife wearing Muslim garments is ludicris. Pictures of hungry and tattered guys with out dated guns is shameful. You guys need help promting your cause.

Thank you,
We know we ain't perfect yet the whole world is talking about us.
So can you pls save your epistle and face your front.

The Igbos, generally are fantastic people. They are very very accommodating to strangers, very industrious, very daring, very individualistic and hardly charitable. The force that drives them to individual greatness is what unfortunately pulls them apart as they move up the social ladder. Because wealth acquisition is foremost, every engagement is tailored towards that.
Such mindset of money is 'king' is carried into politics. There is hardly a unifying ideology. A prolonged struggle cannot yield the desired result without a common ideology. and the spirit of sacrifice which I think are lacking amongst the Ibos.
In the final analysis, the current agitation for Biafra results from the disappointment of the people from a political misadventure. It's sure to fizzle out but will never die

So why disturbing baba go-slow about it? What are you guys still waiting for? Una no get T.fare ni?


Face reality, you guys are just afraid of the unknown simple.

biafranqueen:
The Bight of Biafra is a region identified by Europeans (and subsequent historians) to describe the part of the western African coast between the Niger River and Cape Lopez. This region encompasses the coasts of several modern African nations, including eastern Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, and northern Gabon.

Biafra is not something that started in the 1960s. The English deliberately embarked on a campaign to erase the rich culture of Biafra, an Empire that was lucrative and flourishing before the Cacusoids even left their shores.

Please read this peace from Dr. Ozodi Osuji, It burst your claim of Biafra kingdom being recognized by 1849 (some say since 5000 BC).

Here are extracts;

There are several ways of gathering historical material; one is from written documents, the other is through listening to oral history.

Igbos did not have written materials until the second half of the twentieth century and, therefore, the only way a person writing Igbo history is to know something about Igbos is for him to read what colonial masters wrote about Igbos and or listen to Igbos talk about their history.

Source - http://chatafrik.com/articles/american-affairs/head-hunting-savages-of-the-lower-niger#.VjjQUNKrRdh

gigabyte13:
So why disturbing baba go-slow about it? What are you guys still waiting for? Una no get T.fare ni?


Face reality, you guys are just afraid of the unknown simple.

Maybe if we disturb him enough he will let my people go. Moses had to send a plague and until his first born was slaughtered he did not release the Israelis. Join in telling them to let us go so we will not disturb you people again, end of story!

wirinet:
Please read this peace from Dr. Ozodi Osuji, It burst your claim of Biafra kingdom being recognized by 1849 (some say since 5000 BC).

Here are extracts;

The reading culture is lost in Nigeria, so many scholars have written about it because unfortunately Imolites especially Arochukwus were shameless slave traders. Also the artifacts found during the Bronze age proves how far it went back.

The Oxford History of the British Empire: The eighteenth century, Volume 2
https://books.google.com/books?id=bZ1alLmG_bkC&pg=PA452&lpg=PA452&dq=history+of+bight+of+biafra&source=bl&ots=Q9mFdTM7Kj&sig=dV-t-1szC1k69fQ7ByFVZWSvqoY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDgQ6AEwBjgKahUKEwj3z6y5-vTIAhXDcD4KHfXiBZQ#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20bight%20of%20biafra&f=false

http://history.rutgers.edu/faculty-directory/149-brown-carolyn

A final area of long standing interest is the slave trade in southeastern Nigeria, a very small area but which was the major source area of slaves in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. The project ,'Memories of Sorrow and Loss, - [b]the Slave Trade and Southeastern Nigeria’, involves interviewing people in southeastern Nigeria on the memory of the slave trade. We found that the memory is very strong and gives interesting new perspectives on the African side of the slave trade. It is sponsored by Rutgers, the Harriet Tubman Resource Center for Diaspora Studies [http://www.yorkuca/nhp/] at York University, Canada , the African Research Center, Enugu and the Schomburg Center of [/b]NYPL. In 2011 one volume was published from the project and was co-edited by Paul Lovejoy and Carolyn Brown, Repercussions of the Atlantic Slave Trade: The Interior of the Bight of Biafra and the African Diaspora. Other publications are to follow.