₦airaland Forum

dalaman:
What is 500k to an individual that has graduated from the university? It can not even help you start a business in Nigeria, 500k is just feeding money. These students have spent more than 500k as offering, tithes, first fruits, seed sowing and many other collecting schemes these churches operate. So people should celebrate because a church that collects billions from people uses just a fraction of it to give back to a few of them. The church has failed the poor in Nigeria and that remains a fact.

Many churches run some charity organizations purely on face value, they give scholarships to very few people, claim to pay hospital bills to very few people, they just do everything on face value. Why are you guys talking as if it is not the same Nigeria that we are all living in or as if it's not the same churches we all attend or see around us. The church has failed the poor in Nigeria.

winner01:
Lol , Even as flexible as sport seems, he might not survive arguments there. He's clearly under-educated, he has shown that severally.
I just hope he dosent go about his everyday life this way.

KingEbukasBlog:
@ Dalaman ... MFM last time - around August or so - rewarded 180 First Class University graduates with N91 million, 500 k each . I think for three years running ,the church has kept helping these graduates with cash (the money keeps increasing each year ) .It was 40 million in 2013 - an additional N50 million . I'm pretty sure there are other schemes that help alleviate the indigence of some of the less privileged in that church .

Pastors of questionable character are usually suspended or relieved of their pastorship after deeply interrogated and the situation thoroughly investigated

There are also really good christian organisations that run scholarship schemes and all - loaning students money to help pay their fees etc

KingEbukasBlog:
Madam , then I'd advise you to change your church and stop complaining . If you give to God and still remain in a tough financial position for a long time , then there is something wrong . There are churches who care very little about what you give and are interested in your life as a growing christian . Like in my church , the little you give is multiplied .

I've heard testimonies of people who gave their last kobo and got really blessed . Please don't get carried away by the false impression of deception and theft these atheists want to give to churches . Those who know their God will be strong and do exploits (Daniel 11:32)

Antiparticle:
So your god is a money doubler! Prosperity gospel in action.
I'll leave you with this dose of humor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg

KingEbukasBlog:
You can keep your video to yourself . My comment was in relation to the topic and the lady's comment . If you couldn't decipher that , then its your business . Trust me Ive been on youtube for a long time and I watched lots and lots of this type of videos

dalaman:
We don't need to go too far. We can start with you. How much do you have after paying all the tithes, sowing all the seeds and offering all the money. Do you have 10 million naira cash at hand?

KingEbukasBlog:
ah brother @winner01 ... why na ... frank317 at the education section ... he would utterly embarrass himself there ... let's be sure he went to school first

frank317:
Lol!!! Ebuka is educated... But he believes a talking snake talked man into eating a forbidden apple. now the creator is so angry that we can't love him anymore. Is this what they tought in school now? I must have missed classes.

winner01:
Actually If he didnt, you wouldnt be here arguing. I cant be brain-dead disproving the existence of santa simply cos it dosent exist, I cant even devote 5 minutes talking about it and thats it.

I have not hugged the transformer. Dont wish evil on me. The fact that you were raised with evil dosent mean you should wish evil on others. Learn to be positive.

dalaman:
We don't need to go too far. We can start with you. How much do you have after paying all the tithes, sowing all the seeds and offering all the money. Do you have 10 million naira cash at hand?

daxlasaint:
Now compare and contrast the income of these churches that "give" back to the amount they give as charity... in EVERY case the money spent for charity is a pittance compared to the income, this I am very sure is not the lifestyle of the very same Christ these churches claim to emulate...

KingEbukasBlog:
The talking snake ... ah ... well , you are too young in knowledge and would fail to understand if I should explain the creation story from so many perspectives .

winner01:
Ive made much more money than ive given God and the needy. Asides that, 10 million cannot be compared to the grace, joy, peace, love, favour and other goodies that i enjoy.
You might wanna ask me to calculate the amount of joy i have in comparison to my service to God. Just quit already, you got no point.

frank317:
Whew... U didn't hug the transformer? How then can u be helped? Cos u need someway to vent this anger out. Oh oh oh... The invisible sky daddy can take the heat. I know he is the cause of all this frustration. Tell him to show his face for once and get this over with gaddamit.

frank317:
Of course only old men like u understand the talking snake. Remind me again was the creation story written in Latin? So many perspective indeed. Sir, just Ebuka's perspective would do. Let me hear ur beautiful nonsense once again.

frank317:
Lol!!! Ebuka is educated... But he believes a talking snake talked man into eating a forbidden apple. now the creator is so angry that we can't love him anymore. Is this what they tought in school now? I must have missed classes.

DeepSight:
... physically appear as a human being and give you a handshake before you believe it exists.

KingEbukasBlog:
Pastors work too . I'm friends ( in some way) with some . Some own stores and sell stuff and make really good money

Please let's stop talking about this .

daxlasaint:
Two of my bosses at work are pastors, they can give a million to dia church but won't help a family facing eviction... that to me is not what Christ preached... it's wrong on every level

KingEbukasBlog:
Please sir , I can't say . There are a thousand and one reasons why . I'm not here to judge their actions - let God be the judge - and I insist we should stop talking about pastors and their work .

KingEbukasBlog:
As in eh ... the guy should give up already . Love , joy , favour , success , answers to prayers ... Dalaman we could go on and on .

dalaman:
Will you quit this answer to prayer thrash that you keep spewing all the time. You guys are just funny because you will always look for a way out. You said that any body that gives and doesn't receive should know that there is a problem, I asked how rich you are despite your constant giving and your friend winner01 tried to change the topic to receiving happiness, peace, love and favor which are all empty platitudes. You guys always have ways of evading things or changing topic, let me give you an example.

The bible says that prayer will heal anything if only you believe. But prayer never "heals anything" at a rate higher than random chance, and has a far worse record of healing than the most basic medical science. You have to do some major inoculating against logic, not against disease to make faith healing by prayer viable in the face of the fact that it does not work.

People prayed like maniacs and died in droves from the plague, smallpox, child-bed fever, influenza, rabies, polio, syphilis, etc before there were medical treatments. In places without medicine, people still die from those conditions no matter how much or how hard they pray.

But with medicine, fearsome diseases like leprosy have been treated successfully. Some diseases have even been completely eliminated. Nowadays, people routinely get better or never get sick, even if they never pray at all. Prayer has never in human history eradicated a single disease from a population in the absence of medicine. And people never get healed from amputations, Down's syndrome, Alzheimers, brain tumors etc through prayers alone.

But not when it comes to religion because religious people will claim they were healed "spiritually" no matter what the medical outcome. With science, you cannot claim a person was healed when they are still sick. But with religion, you can always claim a "spiritual" victory, even if the person gets worse after the prayers. You can still say the person was healed spiritually after they have died of the illness. So with religion you can always claim anything and run away with it.

frank317:
Whew... U didn't hug the transformer? How then can u be helped? Cos u need someway to vent this anger out. Oh oh oh... The invisible sky daddy can take the heat. I know he is the cause of all this frustration. Tell him to show his face for once and get this over with gaddamit.

KingEbukasBlog:
I told you I've earned more than I have given God - this is a simple understandable statement

You are trying to compare religion and science here .

Please Dalaman , can you name these places and these people are from which country ? Location ? Give me something

The person , the person ... who is this person . You keep assuming and making false claims . Who is healing who spiritually and who is getting worse after the prayers . Who is this person who was "healed spiritually" . Please can you be exact in any way ?

dalaman:
Many people don't give anything to any God but they own and remain some of the most successful business owners in the world today. God has nothing to do with money or how successful a person or a group of persons will be that is a fact.

Religion is based on mythical and fictitious supposing while scince is based mostly on experimentation and intelligent guesses even though some of them are off the point.

Let me give you just a few example, when small pox and the Bubonic plague were ravaging most of Europe, the church and most of the people prayed to God to save them, nothing happened, it went on to kill about 50 million people before medical cure was found for it. Prayers have never eradicated any plague any where, when Ebola hit, many people died despite the endless prayers that were offered, medical science was what saved the day, all the God failed the people that prayed to them. The Nigerian government had to warn all these lying pastors against claiming to hell Ebola, any pastor that claims he can heal Ebola was told that he will be arrested. The pastors all stayed away because the saw that the government was serious for the first time, non of the claimed to have healed Ebola until after Nigeria was declared Ebola free then some of them came and started they cured a few people, bunch of liars.

Isn't that what you all do?

KingEbukasBlog:
Your opinion

The lies you tell leave the devil amazed ... ah ah

You sound frustrated with arguing against God .

winner01:
There are many ways in which you can get help, ultimately you can turn to God for help. But trying to transfer agression to others on a faceless forum aint gonna help atall.
You can change environment for a start. Try changing your friends too (they obviously have a negative effect on you)
Understand that bad things happen and try to respond positively at all times.
Approach a relative or your guardian for counsel.
Most importantly, find a good psychiatric home. I dont wanna rule out that possibility. Take my advise, it'll help.

KingEbukasBlog:
You can wallow in your ignorance . Only the people who are willing to seek the truth will find it , only those who knock will have doors opened and those who ask will always receive .

Say this prayer every time :

Dear God , crush my pride and reveal more of yourself to me in every area of my life .

frank317:
The guy is the dumbest noisy clown in this section. He does not even see how makes a fool of himself by screaming daleman is a Muslim. I wonder what he hopes to acheive with that.
Don't really blame him though... Blame people that encourage such nonsense.

hahn:
At this point, I don't take ANY theist seriously. You and the other guys dey try. I'm tired of writing an epistle only to be hit with, "do you know about the quija board?"

dalaman:
Just look at the Forbes list of billionaires, Bill Gates is an agnostic, Warren Buffet is an atheist, Larry Ellison is a non practicing Jew, Carlos Sim a non practicing Catholic. The richest black man Dangote is a muslim, he doesn't pay any sow any seed or pay any tithe, yet he is richer than all the mega pastors in Nigeria put together. God has nothing to do with wealth, that is what the reality around us shows.

Can you point out the lies? Show it or shut up.

Stop projecting your self and how you feel on me.