₦airaland Forum

koning:
Can I deck a 5 bedroom duplex with N1.5m. The mid section of the upper deck will be void. I need very prudent builders to make it happen.
Drop your contacts here. I will get in touch with you. Location is Ikorodu, Lagos.

FastShipping:
Interesting

If anyone promises to do it for you, he or she is lying to you. Prepare to spend in the region of 2.5m to 3.2 million naira.

brabus:
It's possible! Just buy hardwood, construct the floor and you have a decking.

The poster didn't say anything about type of decking. Whether it is RCC, Steel floor or Wooding Decking.

FastShipping:
Interesting

If anyone promises to do it for you, he or she is lying to you. Prepare to spend in the region of 2.5m to 3.2 million naira.

brabus:
It's possible! Just buy hardwood, construct the floor and you have a decking.

The poster didn't say anything about type of decking. Whether it is RCC, Steel floor or Wooding Decking.

koning:
3.2 million naira ! Any builder that charges that much is either a thief or he is simply incompetent. Nigerian builders are fond of overloading a building. The building in question is fortified with extra columns. All I need is a surface that will serve as upper floor. The British used to build 3 story houses with wooden upper floors. There is absolutely no need to load an upper floor decking with steel rods.

It could be done with that amount. I just seek a builder with the same vision as me. You guys should learn to think outside the box. Avoid building collapse through unnecessary overloading.

FastShipping:
You are looking at

Iron rods in the region of 650-700k alone.
Wood 300-350k
Granite 350k
Cement 500k
Sharp sand 150k
Piping (M&E) 400k
Water 40k
Mixer 20k

Workmanship 550k at least

Totaling about 3M naira+

That is the least you can get for a decking of 5 bedroom duplex. A 5 bedroom duplex in size is between 250 sq. mt - 400 sq. mt.

Good luck with your finding.

koning:
You can be certain I will not be contacting you. 550k workmanship?, then you will employ A*boki boys and give them N700 a day. Price quotations depends on the quantity of each material you use. You will have to work out the exact quantity required for a light, but strong upper deck before quoting prices.

FastShipping:
Interesting

If anyone promises to do it for you, he or she is lying to you. Prepare to spend in the region of 2.5m to 3.2 million naira.

erico2k2:
Same here I have always used ft and inches for donkey years, I only just discovered M and MM are way more effective,I only changed this year

EgunMogaji:
Excellent but I can't/won't change.
So are you already on the ground tearing shyte up?

kingreign:
I've always and will always draw, measure and calibrate in m and mm. Soo easy and sweet especially when you're working on a large scale work.

koning:
Are you guys even aware that most American houses are built with wood, including the upper floor decks. I'm throwing this as a challenge to the Nigerian builders here. Seek out ways to build efficient, strong and light houses. All a house requires to be strong is a solid foundation and enough pillars to hold everything up. The rest of the building can be made as light as possible. That's why we are able to build high rise office blocks.
There is absolutely no need to load all that steel on top of the columns. It's just a platform to stand on. Or are you building the house for Elephants ?

FastShipping:
Interesting

If anyone promises to do it for you, he or she is lying to you. Prepare to spend in the region of 2.5m to 3.2 million naira.

EgunMogaji:
Some may say yes in the beginning and they waylay him in the middle

EgunMogaji:
One of the reason that I didn't build a two story is exactly that. The normal tendency to just do the same old same old elevated slab thingie. I wasn't going to direct calculated resources at that.

FastShipping:
Your house won't get approval if you try to do it the way we normally do things here.

The sole reason I didn't build house with upper-deck was same as yours. I just don't see myself living in a house with such heavy deck. Some people told me I was running from cost of decking and I told them I spent more on my roofing than it would have cost if I did concrete decking.

FastShipping:
You are looking at

Iron rods in the region of 650-700k alone.
Wood 300-350k
Granite 350k
Cement 500k
Sharp sand 150k
Piping (M&E) 400k
Water 40k
Mixer 20k

Workmanship 550k at least

Totaling about 3M naira+

That is the least you can get for a decking of 5 bedroom duplex. A 5 bedroom duplex in size is between 250 sq. mt - 400 sq. mt.

Good luck with your finding.

EgunMogaji:
It actually will get approve in Ibadan. Well, theoretically.

I bought my plots from a Director at Ministry of Land. I showed the plans for a 2 story plan to him and a Senior Town Planning official that was visiting in his office. The consensus is that they'll need a Nigerian structural engineer to do the calculations and stamp it. He actually gave me the contact of an architect in Ibadan that has done similar. When I contacted her, she wanted N250,000

That was the end of that

EgunMogaji:
It actually will get approve in Ibadan. Well, theoretically.

I bought my plots from a Director at Ministry of Land. I showed the plans for a 2 story plan to him and a Senior Town Planning official that was visiting in his office. The consensus is that they'll need a Nigerian structural engineer to do the calculations and stamp it. He actually gave me the contact of an architect in Ibadan that has done similar. When I contacted her, she wanted N250,000

That was the end of that

koning:
You can be certain I will not be contacting you. 550k workmanship?, then you will employ A*boki boys and give them N700 a day. Price quotations depends on the quantity of each material you use. You will have to work out the exact quantity required for a light, but strong upper deck before quoting prices.

Fhemmmy:
Chairman, if you think the cost of doing the decking is too much, why not consider a bungalow . . . I will say you are endagering your life and that of people that will be in that kinda of house you plan to deck with 1.5M Naira . . . Please no more accident in Nigeria, so either do it right or go for a bungalow . . . My honest novice advice.

koning:
Well, I'm still awake after watching the match. So I can reply you. Please do not focus on the N1.5m, but focus on my fears of overloading the house. I personally consider the usual ways you guys deck houses to be a lot more dangerous. Have you ever wondered why so many buildings collapse in Nigeria. The TB Joshua church that collapsed was purely due to excess and unnecessary load on fragile columns.
My suggestion is actually the right way. I just need a good structural engineer that can carry out the plan for me.
Of course if I use 70% of the current materials you guys use in the usual, but very dangerous way you are used to, it should cost me less. Hence the quotation of N1.5m or thereabout.

koning:
Well, I'm still awake after watching the match. So I can reply you. Please do not focus on the N1.5m, but focus on my fears of overloading the house. I personally consider the usual ways you guys deck houses to be a lot more dangerous. Have you ever wondered why so many buildings collapse in Nigeria. The TB Joshua church that collapsed was purely due to excess and unnecessary load on fragile columns.
My suggestion is actually the right way. I just need a good structural engineer that can carry out the plan for me.
Of course if I use 70% of the current materials you guys use in the usual, but very dangerous way you are used to, it should cost me less. Hence the quotation of N1.5m or thereabout.

sako28:
3m to deck a 5 Bedroom is a No No.
Firstly, 1 room will be on the ground floor, so you are decking a 4 bedroom with may small sitting room and study area. So the dimension can be like 18m by 14m.
250 bag of cemen will do this at N1500/bag(with tranport to site and offloading)= 375,000
iron 12mm and 16mm will cost you aprox.=400,000
Wood=300,000
Granite= 350,000
Piping eletrical=60,000(No water piping in the decking)
Sharp sand= 125,000.
Workmanship you negiotiate=??

Above is just an insight. I did my decking in port Harcourt in October for a 4BR deplex, 3rooms up with Study room and small palour with abt 1.8m. And this is due to the fact that granite in PHC is very expensive. All thank to my Ogas here from Hajji, Spyder, brabus(evenly though im confuse abt him i still hail his contribution), Segcymoor and to all my ogas here on Properties section.

Fhemmmy:
By the way i focused on the 1.5m Naira because that was the foundation of the conversation but if you want us to ignore that, no problem . . . Also, you keep saying "You guys" and i will use that to assume that you are not within the boundaries of Nigeria . . . Let us now where you are based and we could use that as a basis for the conversation.
With 3 or 4 rooms on the top floor and roof and all that will be loaded on it, my brother, i will say it is very important to make sure it is well reinforced

koning:
Go back to my earlier comments. T[b]he upper floor decking adds nothing, nada, zilch, to the reinforcement[/b]. It will just rest on the beams which will be carried by the columns. A solid foundation and pillars/columns is all you need.

koning:
Thank you my brother. That guy is just looking for Diaspora Nigerians that he rip off. That's why they back each other up here and drop outrageous quotations with the hope that someone will drop millions for them to construct a house. I am a Diaspora Nigerian too, but I come home regularly. And I know what's going on. Dem never born builder in Nigeria wey no go chop his client. The issue is how greedy are you and how much do you wan't to chop?

koning:
Go back to my earlier comments. The upper floor decking adds nothing, nada, zilch, to the reinforcement. It will just rest on the beams which will be carried by the columns. A solid foundation and pillars/columns is all you need.

kingreign:
That's a very fair price for a professional licenced architect ....

In Abuja, which Architect would do such works for you for less unless he/she runs a charity Non Profit Non Govt Org.

koning:
Thank you my brother. That guy is just looking for Diaspora Nigerians that he will rip off. That's why they back each other up here and drop outrageous quotations with the hope that someone will drop millions for them to construct a house. I am a Diaspora Nigerian too, but I come home regularly. And I know what's going on. Dem never born builder in Nigeria wey no go chop his client. The issue is how greedy are you and how much do you wan't to chop?

Fhemmmy:
That one made me roll on the floor and laughing so hard . . . .By the way, if you never mentioned you are Diasporan, no one would have known and i am sure FastShipping dont need your contract . . . Lol