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Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by carnegiefan: 8:05pm On Nov 11, 2015
The ultimate truth is that the real "Niger Deltans" are not here wasting their time. They are organizing and matching with IPOB.
Only fakes bother to come here to talk nonsense.
The real ones know what is at stake.

I keep saying that more Niger deltans believe in Biafra than Igbo people. The hardcore ones are matching with IPOB, while most of the rest are frightfully watching from the sidelines, hoping that somehow Biafra will come.
The Igbo people of SE are too entrenched making money in Nigeria and building mansions in Igboland, with little or no environmental damage.
As such the most fierce critics of current Biafra are SE Igbo (Joe Igbokwe is one example). Painful to us, but true.
The ONLY thing that can give "Niger delta" an equal opportunity and hope for justice and survival is BIAFRA.
The alternative is to die a slow and painful death in the Nigerian jungle.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:07pm On Nov 11, 2015
EternalTruths:
Until it is written before you believe


I only have one strong proof to show that we would follow that path


That proof is

Our value system, orientation, culture and philosophy as a people. cool
I have always believed that value system,orientation,culture and philosophical attributes of a people determines the system of Governance they are likely to adopt but where the cultural attributes aren't too cohesive then it is important to have everything in black and white with a binding that would serve as a legal tender anywhere in this world else it's all talk and noise.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by lawrenceunaa: 8:09pm On Nov 11, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Your attempts at consoling yourself falls flat in the face.

We know the region whose ancestral lands have been iredeemably damaged by.

We know the region with polluted black waters, fishes dying and decaying in the sea.

We know the region whose forests/farmlands have been overrun and ruined by oyel.

We know the region with high concentration of poisonous gases in the air such that even teenager have grey hair.

That region is Nigeria's meal ticket and it is the wreteched lands of the niger delta.

Lmao @ IPOB/Biafra. Who wants Biafra? I see the IPOB protesters as fools. How can we leave Nigeria when we have the niger delta as our meal ticket? When we are still collecting allocations at Abuja abi the our oyel don finish ni. Lol.

Deceiving yourself all you want, the fact is that the niger delta is the biggest loser in Nigeria.

When we finish drilling all our oyel from your ravaged ancestral lands and polluted waters then there will be resource control.

Biafra ko IPOB ni. Lmao
don't mind that truckpusher even his moniker depicts his illiteracy. Let us join hands to drill to the last drop of oil then focus on resource control and see who looses.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:10pm On Nov 11, 2015
lawrenceunaa:
not mind that truckpusher even his moniker depicts his illiteracy. Let us join hands to drill to the last drop of oil then focus on resource control and see who looses.

Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by VickJames(m): 8:13pm On Nov 11, 2015
Truckpusher:
Chai! what has fluid mechanics and natural flow of River Niger got to do with this now? grin smh

Well, if we argue on that factor then it is right to conclude that the marshy lowlands of Niger Delta with more fluids permeates her excess fluids underground to the harder soil of the eastern border considering the topography of the land and the basic knowledge of osmosis.

Maybe you need more research on intakes and outfalls for Seawater Reverse-Osmosis and Osmosis as it concerns your soil topography on natural environments such as lakes,seas and Rivers compared to wetlands.

Thank me later. tongue
have you checked the distance between the south south part of the sea and the southeast?

do you know the exit point of the river niger? if there is a splash flow, its still on your land.

the osmotic gradient dies as it continues to permeates through your region, since the mass flow rate reduces due to normal obstacles in the soil and the flow direction of the niger river.

boss, if the oil spill we affect the eastern region, then you will people will have gone extinct. you know what that means.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Nobody: 8:13pm On Nov 11, 2015
lawrenceunaa:
not mind that truckpusher even his moniker depicts his illiteracy. Let us join hands to drill to the last drop of oil then focus on resource control and see who looses.
Exactly. When we all finish drinking our oyel then even the nroth will accept resource control. Lol.

The niger delta will go control their iredeemably ravaged and devated environmet.

Foolish people.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by VickJames(m): 8:15pm On Nov 11, 2015
Themonster:
i see you my Mech engineering nigga. cool

grin
bros i suppose de tell people my mind before them go de Bleep for social media.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by EternalTruths: 8:15pm On Nov 11, 2015
Truckpusher:
I have always believed that value system,orientation,culture and philosophical attributes of a people determines the system of Governance they are likely to adopt but where the cultural attributes aren't too cohesive then it is important to have everything in black and white with a binding that would serve as a legal tender anywhere in this world else it's all talk and noise.
Please be sincere


Since you believe you know my people, our value system , culture, orientation and philosophy as a people, DO YOU THINK IT WILL PROPEL IGBOS TO ENCOURAGE true federalism , resource control, greater autonomy etc in Biafra


Yes or No
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Nobody: 8:16pm On Nov 11, 2015
VickJames:
have you checked the distance between the south south part of the sea and the southeast?

do you know the exit point of the river niger? if there is a splash flow, its still on your land.

the osmotic gradient dies as it continues to permeates through your region, since the mass flow rate reduces due to normal obstacles in the soil and the flow direction of the niger river.

boss, if the oil spill we affect the eastern region, then you will people will have gone extinct. you know what that means.
Why are you disturbing yaself? The oyel belongs to all Nigerians. The niger delta is our meal ticket.

The man in Sokoto/Oyo/Ebonyi have rights to our oyel like the cursed ogogoro drinking monkeys of the creeks.

Let us chop and clean mouth while it lasts. Lol
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by VickJames(m): 8:19pm On Nov 11, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
Why are you disturbing yaself? The oyel belongs to all Nigerians. The niger delta is our meal ticket.

The man in Sokoto/Oyo/Ebonyi have rights to our oyel like the cursed ogogoro drinking monkeys of the creeks.

Let us chop and clean mouth while it lasts. Lol
bros, you are wicked o.

you just finished this guy now grin
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by lawrenceunaa: 8:21pm On Nov 11, 2015
[quote author=Truckpusher post=39921585][/quote]u and I know u re the 'diot here. U ally with those savaging ur village lands and water same thing saro wiwa fool regretted. At the end u lost. Biafra is not forcing anyone rather will deal with anyone that doesn't let go of Igbo and igboloids in south south
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:28pm On Nov 11, 2015
VickJames:
have you checked the distance between the south south part of the sea and the southeast?

do you know the exit point of the river niger? if there is a splash flow, its still on your land.

the osmotic gradient dies as it continues to permeates through your region, since the mass flow rate reduces due to normal obstacles in the soil and the flow direction of the niger river.

boss, if the oil spill we affect the eastern region, then you will people will have gone extinct. you know what that means.
The distance between the South South and the South East is a non factor here as long as the highlands acts as drainage breaks for the natural flow of River Niger.

There is no spalsh flow that affects the River Niger hence you'd be experiencing flood and flash flood every rainy season and there is no natural obstacle such as moutains and other natural blockage along the rain forest and deltas that exists between the Eastern highlands and the Eastern seaboard to the bight of Bonny down to the wetlands of the Niger Delta - It is a go-go free flow all the way to the Altantic Ocean.

Finally, the osmotic gradient is a negligible factor since the Niger Delta experiences constant rainfall and the wetlands due to the proximity to the Atlantic Ocean WHICH constantly pushes more water into the environment thereby returning back by permeating through the soil to the highlands during drier seasons and all seasons.

N/B: I wasn't talking about oil spills but the long time effect of oil spills, oil exploartion and exploitation as it affects the natural order of the environment - Oil spill is temporary and can be cleaned up but when the diffused effluents sinks where does it flow to ? where is her final resting place - This is the crux of the matter bro.

God does not sleep.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:30pm On Nov 11, 2015
EternalTruths:
Please be sincere


Since you believe you know my people, our value system , culture, orientation and philosophy as a people, DO YOU THINK IT WILL PROPEL IGBOS TO ENCOURAGE true federalism , resource control, greater autonomy etc in Biafra


Yes or No
Are you now my teacher to be giving me a 'yes' or 'no' question? undecided grin
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:32pm On Nov 11, 2015
lawrenceunaa:
u and I know u re the 'diot here. U ally with those savaging ur village lands and water same thing saro wiwa fool regretted. At the end u lost. Biafra is not forcing anyone rather will deal with anyone that doesn't let go of Igbo and igboloids in south south
Hehe grin

Easy o , before you bite yourself this night. grin
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by patrick89(m): 8:33pm On Nov 11, 2015
the writer sounds like yoloba to me! there is this particular line they enjoy using! "respect" our bla bla bla, you know that they are obsessed with Respect!
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:33pm On Nov 11, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
Why are you disturbing yaself? The oyel belongs to all Nigerians. The niger delta is our meal ticket.

The man in Sokoto/Oyo/Ebonyi have rights to our oyel like the cursed ogogoro drinking monkeys of the creeks.

Let us chop and clean mouth while it lasts. Lol
Can't you see how I'm crying.

Keep crying more than the bereaved bro - I still maintain that you're a scumbag. grin

Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by lawrenceunaa: 8:35pm On Nov 11, 2015
Truckpusher:
Hehe grin

Easy o , before you bite yourself this night. grin
stay off my mentions pained @ss modafuc*ker
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by EternalTruths: 8:37pm On Nov 11, 2015
Truckpusher:
Are you now my teacher to be giving me a 'yes' or 'no' question? undecided grin
Your reply tells me that deep down your heart, you are convinced that today's Biafrans want a country where all oppressed ethnic groups of old Eastern and midwest regions will be proud to call a country


I hope Tonyebarcanista shares this new sentiment with you.




God bless Biafra


Land of the free borns.



I bow out with a deep joy in my heart



Welcome to the fold kiss
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by VickJames(m): 8:38pm On Nov 11, 2015
Truckpusher:
The distance between the South South and the South East is a non factor here as long as the highlands acts as drainage breaks for the natural flow of River Niger.

There is no spalsh flow that affects the River Niger hence you'd be experiencing flood and flash flood every rainy season and there is no natural obstacle such as moutains and other natural blockage along the rain forest and deltas that exists between the Eastern highlands and the Eastern seaboard to the bight of Bonny down to the wetlands of the Niger Delta - It is a go-go free flow all the way to the Altantic Ocean.

Finally, the osmotic gradient is a negligible factor since the Niger Delta experiences constant rainfall and the wetlands due to the proximity to the Atlantic Ocean WHICH constantly pushes more water into the environment thereby returning back by permeating through the soil to the highlands during drier seasons and all seasons.

N/B: I wasn't talking about oil spills but the long time effect of oil spills, oil exploartion and exploitation as it affects the natural order of the environment - Oil spill is temporary and can be cleaned up but when the diffused effluents sinks where does it flow to ? where is her final resting place - This is the crux of the matter bro.

God does not sleep.
brother, you might have spoken some big grammar up there but the truth is, it doesnt apply like that.

the south east is like an upland to the south south. hope you know that?

when rain falls, the washes the surface down to the lowland not the upland bro. thats number one.

number two, the osmotic movement to the south east will take a very long time and by then, your region will have been so saturated with crude that an elephant grass will have pale flowers. yes, the osmotic gradient is very paramount because thats the only reason why flow will occur. so it is very important in this regard.

since most of the oil wells in the south south region are basically on or close to the sea, then, splash flow will occur because the tidal wave will still bring the crude onshore. this crude that will flow onshore will sip through the layers of the soil into your water table and one senator in your district will dig borehole and see that the water is tasting somehow. the pawpaw and banana is your region will start growing dwarf. the children in those region will start growing pale skin because the water they're drinking will be contaminated with non-biodegradable waste called crude.

it is a tough struggle bro, it is difficult.

moreover, do you know that the sea is coming up, get ready.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Nobody: 8:40pm On Nov 11, 2015
Truckpusher:
Can't you see how I'm crying.

Keep crying more than the bereaved bro - I still maintain that you're a scumbag. grin
lmao. As long as Abuja still dey perform every month no shking, lol.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Nobody: 8:40pm On Nov 11, 2015
Truckpusher:
Can't you see how I'm crying.

Keep crying more than the bereaved bro - I still maintain that you're a scumbag. grin
lmao. As long as Abuja still dey perform every month no shaking, lol.
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:41pm On Nov 11, 2015
EternalTruths:
Your reply tells me that deep down your heart, you are convinced that today's Biafrans want a country where all oppressed ethnic groups of old Eastern and midwest regions will be proud to call a country


I hope Tonyebarcanista shares this new sentiment with you.




God bless Biafra


Land of the free borns.



I bow out with a deep joy in my heart



Welcome to the fold kiss
Dream on boy! - Even mad people do have dreams too. grin
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:43pm On Nov 11, 2015
lawrenceunaa:
stay off my mentions pained @ss modafuc*ker
Now you just gave me a licence to sleep on your useless mention. grin

Welcome my friend - You just bought yourself a nice ticket in my corner in this forum.

Ama whip ya ass until you haul 'em like a man being chased by heavy shiit loving flies. grin

So, how iidiotic can you be?
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:45pm On Nov 11, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
lmao. As long as Abuja still dey perform every month no shaking, lol.
And in your delusional state of mind you quoted me twice. grin

In fact trouble mode activated. sad

smh.....
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Truckpusher(m): 8:52pm On Nov 11, 2015
VickJames:
brother, you might have spoken some big grammar up there but the truth is, it doesnt apply like that.

the south east is like an upland to the south south. hope you know that?

when rain falls, the washes the surface down to the lowland not the upland bro. thats number one.

number two, the osmotic movement to the south east will take a very long time and by then, your region will have been so saturated with crude that an elephant grass will have pale flowers. yes, the osmotic gradient is very paramount because thats the only reason why flow will occur. so it is very important in this regard.

since most of the oil wells in the south south region are basically on or close to the sea, then, splash flow will occur because the tidal wave will still bring the crude onshore. this crude that will flow onshore will sip through the layers of the soil into your water table and one senator in your district will dig borehole and see that the water is tasting somehow. the pawpaw and banana is your region will start growing dwarf. the children in those region will start growing pale skin because the water they're drinking will be contaminated with non-biodegradable waste called crude.

it is a tough struggle bro, it is difficult.

moreover, do you know that the sea is coming up, get ready.
There is no big grammer here brother but simple analysis based on studies that has been proven scientifically by well known research bodies and Institutes across the world.
However ,you do have a good insight and quite knowledgeable which I must commend, but why are you running around with these touts and miscreants like Eurobomber and his ilk?
It might interest you to know that I wasn't against Biafra but they've twisted everything I've said here right from the day one to sound politically correct in other to convince their follow follows that we hate the Igbos.They started with curses and the all hell broke loose ,now they are tearing their pants and boxers. grin
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Nobody: 9:50pm On Nov 11, 2015
EternalTruths:
Your reply tells me that deep down your heart, you are convinced that today's Biafrans want a country where all oppressed ethnic groups of old Eastern and midwest regions will be proud to call a country

I hope Tonyebarcanista shares this new sentiment with you.

God bless Biafra

Land of the free borns.

I bow out with a deep joy in my heart

Welcome to the fold kiss
Stop this condescending; it doesn't worth the quest!
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Nobody: 9:53pm On Nov 11, 2015
The bold-ed alone shows your mentality reeks of "history dyslexia" You are full of lies and every of your sentences are unfortunately baked in deceit, how can you make such statement, even the average Yoruba man knows the boundary was only politically motivated! How can you make such statement!

OH i WAIL! OUR YOUTHS ARE SUCH A WASTE!!!

BECAUSE OF OIL, YOU ARE DISTORTING HISTORY huh

LAST PAGE!!!

Raymondenyi:
I have watched with keen interest and frenzy on the agitation of some people of igbo extraction and eastern region of Nigeria in their quest for the creation of their own state of Biafra . While I understand the isolation, despair, annoyance that necessitated the original call for the state of biafra by its original progenitors in may of 1967 , following the pogrom of igbos in northern Nigeria which infiltrated to lagos(the then federal capital), down to the brutal massacre of 187 igbo military officers in the bloody coup to the mass exodus of igbo back to their eastern region , a time of great division, hate, anarchy and social injustice , albeit an unpleasant past better left untapped, while I understand all these I have failed to understand the root cause for the present agitation.... That being said , I still respect their right to self determination and to decide their own fate as long as it is done with pen and peaceful match and not barrels ; However I happen to be more concerned about my primary constituent which is the Niger delta and how this is affecting us.


Firstly, I'll wanna correct a false notion being paraded by these agitators "Rivers state is an igbo land" This fallacy being peddled must be nipped at its bud before it gets out of hand, I really do not know or understand the origin of this, For a quick reminder incase you might have forgotten, Nigeria is divided into 6 geopolitical zones : North East, North West, North Central, South West, South East and the South South ... We happen to be of the S.S and you S.E , it is only sensible to know this two, though sharing a common boundary are not the same and you claiming our region as yours and trying to forcefully annex it into your pseudo state without due recourse to the local inhabitants to the best of my knowledge is far from sensibility and indeed a grandiloquent delirium ....

our historical Niger-Deltan agitators never believed in your cause why do you think contemporary ones Will?
It is on record the Niger delta heroes of the past, that fought for the interest and emancipation of the Niger Delta never believed in the biafran vision, notably of which Kenule beeson Saro-Wiwa who was an ardent critic of Biafra and never associated with it, Isaac Adaka Boro, our own progenitor of the Niger-Deltan armed struggle as a matter of fact enlisted into the Nigeria army to fight Biafrans even though he had previously waged a 12 day war against the federal government in declaring a Niger delta Republic. Obi - Wali wasn't an exception.
This gives you an insight,Biafra has been alien to us (Niger delta) and will always be.

We are not similar to the Biafrans, We stand for a cause we believe in and do not run in the face of defeat
The Niger-deltans are very different from the biafran agitators in character, we stand for a cause we believe in, and if need be, pay the ultimate price for it, we do not run in the face of defeat and abandon our own , this had been exemplified by Ken Saro wiwa and Adaka Boro , even our own Gen.Philip Effiong who stood till the end and called for an end to the senseless massacre when your own took to his heels abandoning the millions he had made to believe and sacrifice their lives for a cause even though he was too afraid to do same; Only to return years later contesting for presidency in same country (I'm yet to witness such cowardice and betrayal within my short time on earth).
The Biafran struggle is a fight we do not believe in and can never go in for it. Make no mistakes , We were drawn into the Biafran war of 1967 because of our proximity with eastern region, also because we had lesser number of enlightened people that could form a formidable voice. We can categorically tell you now that can NEVER happen again.


we also have a right to self determination just like you do

Finally, we also have a right to self determination just like you do, and we have recanted over and over again , WE ARE NOT BIAFRA , why can't you respect That? (It only goes to show what the minority will suffer under your supreme rule if ever actualised) . Our governor who happen to be our mouth piece has banned Biafran protest in our state(Rivers state) and have repeatedly alienated us from it, but yet you persist in flagrant disregard for we the locals and our wants.
We believe in a united Nigeria, and even at its worse if that seems impossible we will make do with a Niger Delta Republic.

I only pray this gets to every nook and cranny, and to all Biafran agitators for them to see reasons and respect the will of the Niger Deltans,

Thank you..

Mr. Ray, a social commentator /political analyst of Ikwerre extraction in Niger Delta.....
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by lawrenceunaa: 11:26pm On Nov 11, 2015
Truckpusher:
Now you just gave me a licence to sleep on your useless mention. grin

Welcome my friend - You just bought yourself a nice ticket in my corner in this forum.

Ama whip ya ass until you haul 'em like a man being chased by heavy shiit loving flies. grin

So, how iidiotic can you be?
it still doesn't change the fact that u and ur people will only have resource control when oil drys
Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Nobody: 8:02pm On Nov 18, 2015
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Re: Biafra And The Yearnings Of The Niger Delta by Nobody: 11:36pm On Nov 18, 2015
northvietnam:
Good job Op. I will forward this to dullar dinho to include your name in the mxt list of ministers coming out soon. you don't need to make noise like your fellow SS said God forbid in senate ministerial screening just to please his northern masters. go and ask Jonathan Good luck what he wants . jobless APC errand mofoo . your removed Governor said no protest , but there was protest and there is nothing he can or will do about it. we are telling the world to beg buhari to release nnamdi KANU simple . biafran agitation and protest never started today. you are a perfect example of edwind Clark that denied Gej just to also please the born to rule parr of Nigeria. Sarowiwa if a man I respect and adore and he fought for freedom of his people but do you know his mistakehuh?..... he had no stubborn allies , no die hard freedom fighters that are ready to die today instead of tomorrow. you that gave your self all those title political analyst (lolsssssssssssssss), what have you done for the conspiracy against GEJ in the last election, what about James ibori, alamyasie(DSP) a man that was giving presidential pardon and enemies of progress overrurned it . please if u want political recognition just buy form , contest and loose like GEJ and you will be popular . not baptizing your self with analyst political what ever ever from ikweree( bsc,MSc pol sci. HARVARD USA) abi.......... Metcheeeeeeeeeeeeew
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