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| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:26am On Nov 16, 2015 |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by neocortex: 10:50am On Nov 16, 2015 |
PappyMason:I guess it was also false flag operations that made hitler attempted to take over europe. I remember Russia also invaded afghanistan and fled at the end of the day, was it also CIA false flag that fuels Russia imperialistic tendencies. Stop using singular acts to make sweeping generalization. If a fictional story exists does it mean all stories are fiction ? A little reflection will point you in the right direction. |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:53am On Nov 16, 2015 |
neocortex: GBTYO: |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by neocortex: 11:03am On Nov 16, 2015 |
dammytosh:Don't mind pappymason, the pseudo-analyst, even a 12 year old with an automatic rifle can wreak more havoc in a crowded place than a soldier could dream of achieving on the battlefied. The Jihadists know this that is why they chose the easiest target. To pappymason and his ilks , the numerous lone wolf gunmen shootings in US are also CIA's false flag operations. |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 11:11am On Nov 16, 2015 |
neocortex:In 3 mths time the US and NATO will have boots in Syria Watch how the objectives will switch from fighting ISIS to something totally different. Remember how the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq started off with one singular goal but ended up a web of lies? From falsely claiming Sadaam was behind Al Qaeda attack to WMDS to stabilizing Iraq to a sectarian war to ISIL. Use your heads. GBTYO: |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by neocortex: 11:24am On Nov 16, 2015 |
SirLewis:If I may ask, how did you know about operation northwoods ? was it through your investigative prowess or through the same cunning CIA ? No one is denying that false flags is real, but labeling every act as false flag only points to the fact that one is too lazy to dig for more facts. One potent weapon of extremists is their enemies underestimating their capabilities. Every one says "they can't do that" , until they strike, then the song now becomes "it must be some other powerful people that did it". The cycle continues until the Islamist overrrun their enemies. Possibility is never equal to reality. |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Kemy11(m): 11:51am On Nov 16, 2015 |
Snowden made some of these revelations that why they wanted to kill him. After the death of Gadaffi and what Libya turned I don't trust Americans. If u re not politically inclined you may not understand the game. french govt is aware of the operation. How can six places attacked without intelligence report. This is no conspiracy theory. THIS IS POLITICS. |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Fash20: 12:53pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
RevDesmondJuju:to who? You? Make I bend like bendel |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by PabloAfricanus(m): 2:19pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
neocortex:Apt questions… but are you also aware some folks over there stake their lives to expose the inhuman evil going on there? Like the way some overzealous folks here burn robbers and flog gays publicly? That same energy and moral conviction drives certain class of folks to expose what is going on. Look up these books The Terror Factory(Tevor Aaronson) , The Colder War(Marin Katusa) and Black Market Billions(Hitha Prabhakar). You need to read more. Truth they say is stranger than fiction. Im no apologist for conspiracy theorists… but the scale of the events, the context, location and actors involved in all these events do not follow conventional logic. Or are you one of those who believe a group of arab terrorists with no prior flying experience were able to not only commandeer a commercial aircraft in US airspace… but fly it past the Pentagon air defences, NORAD air defences and ram it into the Pentagon? |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by neocortex: 4:26pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
PabloAfricanus:With regards to operation northwood , it is the US government who declassified the information for accountability sake, not some good samaritan. It is always a good strategy to be skeptical of anyone who claim to have "secret" knowledge of governments without providing any evidence to back up their claims. You believe there is a full proof defense somewhere, but it doesn't exist, not NORAD, not PATRIOT defense, they are all machines and are bound to fail due to accidents or human negligence. To me circumstantial evidence and some "experts" is too weak to be made a basis for a grand conspiracy. "If he was there, he must have done it". Those "evidence" doesn't fly in the face of serious scrutiny. Those Arab terrorists could obviously fly planes , I don't know where you got your info from. While those men may have received authority's help deliberately or otherwise, how can we then make a leap of faith and point fingers indiscriminately at anyone who fits the narrative ? Are you aware that some part of the 9/11 reports are still classified till today, do you care to know what is in the classified part ? Or do you believe the myriads of theories are sufficient I can remember how a Nigerian plane was hijacked during the Abacha struggles, and there are many plane hijacks by ragtag groups which we can conclude that there is nothing special about hijacking a civilian plane. It is actually common thing with us humans to fill a void with our own imaginations, "something/someone big must be out there". I believe books are as effective as the person reading it, anyone can write a book, but it is the readers perogative to avoid unnecessarily getting drawn into the authors ideology. Note , my submission is not to absolve US or its elements of complicity in all terror attacks. My point is that generalization and conspiracy is a poor refuge for the lazy. |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:11pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
More evidence to show this was a false flag OP. A Belgian man claimed to have called the Police up to 80 times after spotting one of the cars and terrorists acting strangely. The police never bothered to respond once to the scene even though they acknowledged his calls. It could be easy for the CIA to reroute all emergency calls to the police and jam all radio frequencies to frustrate any police snooping on their jihadi zombies who were high on meth
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| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by PabloAfricanus(m): 11:06pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
neocortex:Ofcourse, a lot of information WAS ONLY MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC after declassification by US intelligence. But then you seem to credit US intelligence with too many powers. Mind you there are foreign spies, moles and fifth columnists whose only job is to infiltrate and ferret out information. This information can be made public for any purposes ranging from economic sabotage to political shaming. There is no way US or her allies can completely control or preempt the activities of such paid agents. Also there are indeed INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS and CITIZENS who are not fearful like us over here in Africa. You cant discount that. For economic and financial reasons, the interests of the US will always clash with that of her allies and rivals. It was US intelligence that was employed in driving Russia out of Afghanistan and depriving them of the opportunity to pipe gas to Europe through Afghanistan. It was Russian intelligence that defeated exposed the machinations of America's empire in propping up Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey. This woke up Iran to the reality of the big game going on...hence their opting to be nuclear capable. I could go on. It is not a case of "secret knowledge" but the ability to interpret PUBLICLY VISIBLE global political events and build of arms, forces, alliances and treaties. Like why Russia had to be stopped from building new gas pipe lines through Northern Europe or through Afghanistan. You need a solid grasp of history to even make sense of certain things happening now a days...else you'd just take whatever the mainstream media throws at you. Like why Russia has rights to Crimea, or why China has rights to Hong Kong or Taiwan. neocortex:Ofcourse, every system built by man can never be fool proof. If American airspace were that porous INTERNALLY...then Russia and China would have established one or two military bases around US boundaries. Just like the US has China and Russia ringed with multiple operational military bases. However, your above quote tells me you have either not researched NORAD well or have not digested the events that took place on 9/11 well. I suggest you do. neocortex:I get your point here....but you also need to open your eyes and trust your reasoning sometimes. If water starts flowing uphill...SOMETHING MUST HAVE CHANGED! Or something must have CAUSED it. Nothing conspiratorial about that. Lots of American scientists challenged the official reports that a plane rammed into the Towers on 911. Evidence was submitted indicating that the fuel contained in those planes that allegedly flew into the towers, WAS NOT ENOUGH to burn down the ENTIRE TOWERS. It was built to withstand even greater impacts! Analysis of the released videos and eye witness reports...indicate a controlled demolition. A quick Google search should give you some ideas of what OTHER Americans think. I do not have all the facts...so I will not jump to conclusions. But try and analyze the official reports...line them up with the refutations and dissenters...and see if they match up. That's one of the best ways to even begin to form an opinion. Infact, the basic false flag operation is to cause harm to your own citizens or destroy your own property...to blame a real or perceived enemy. This particular tactic has in most cases never lost its efficacy...no matter how sloppy the execution. The incredulity of the general public is far,far more huge than you probably think. neocortex:Lol...I get your point. See it this way...there are people who have it in their power to exploit others, resources and wealth. They will do whatever they can to take over, loot, burn, rape, steal and enslave others. They will lie, cheat, murder to get their way. Its human nature. You cannot wish it away or pretend it does not exist. Try this, find out how many empires and colonies of the Portuguese, French, Spanish and Dutch the British took over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchies_in_the_Americas Its the same old game the Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans were playing...and now the Spanish, British and Americans are playing out. If you call the expositions on the apparent 911 discrepancies "conspiracy theories"...what will you call the American establishment of over 700 military bases in 63 countries by the US? What is AFRICOM doing in Liberia? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-worldwide-network-of-us-military-bases/5564 http://www.thenation.com/article/the-united-states-probably-has-more-foreign-military-bases-than-any-other-people-nation-or-empire-in-history/ Watch Colin Powell's lies to justify America's invasion of Iraq...so conveniently now exposed by the venerable HuffingtonPost ten years after Iraq had been invaded and colonized! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-schwarz/colin-powell-wmd-iraq-war_b_2624620.html http://crooksandliars.com/heather/colin-powell-continues-defend-wmd-lies-ira http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_442 Back then Powell and the American military complex were roundly exposed by so-called "conspiracy" theorists, while some just hushed them down and responded the exact way you are responding. A few years later...even Bush could not articulate a meaningful statement whether Saddam had WMDs or not. Guess what, what was the first act of the Americans once they invaded and secured Baghdad? Look it up and lemme know. Thing is there strong, stronger, weak, and weaker forces at play in the global political space. Its a game of empire and scramble for control of resources and means of wealth creation. If you understand the above and have studied the rise/fall of empires...you will not find certain stories strange or "conspiratorial". |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by idupaul: 11:10pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
bettercreature:The US definitely has a hand in ISIS .. After hearing John Kerry speak today I have no doubt the US founded and still funds ISIS |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by HaneefahRN(f): 2:37pm On Nov 22, 2015 |
More grease to ur elbows OP, this thread actually opened my eyes to many things. Many questions I av answered and unanswered. I definitely know there is more to these terrorist groups than religion or whatever they are camouflage with. They look for excuses to infiltrate and wreck havoc in different countries, create hatred against a religion. They had been successful in blindfolding many pple from the truth playing the Super hero when in actuality they are the villains. Many pple refuse to think outside the box. We are watching as the events unfold. The truth shall become manifest one day. |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by HaneefahRN(f): 2:38pm On Nov 22, 2015 |
More grease to ur elbows OP, this thread actually opened my eyes to many things. Many questions I av answered and unanswered. I definitely know there is more to these terrorist groups than religion or whatever they are camouflage with. They look for excuses to infiltrate and wreck havoc in different countries, create hatred against a religion. They had been successful in blindfolding many pple from the truth playing the Super hero when in actuality they are the villains. Many pple refuse to think outside the box. We are watching as the events unfold. The truth shall become manifest one day. And why is this not on FP? |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 2:47pm On Nov 22, 2015 |
HaneefahRN:Why should it be on Frontpage? |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by HaneefahRN(f): 4:07pm On Nov 22, 2015 |
Reyginus:Cos it's a different perspective from all the lies, half truths and propagandas we've been perpetually fed wt and used to. It allows one to reflect and see the loop holes and correlations. That is for those who want to and not blinded by stereotypes |
| Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 5:10pm On Nov 22, 2015 |
HaneefahRN:A different perspective does not equate intelligence or truth. Because we know America is evil every evil is done by them. How intelligent! Where are the loopholes and correlations here? |
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