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Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by explorer250(m):
bjims:
At last some other person I can discuss with intelligently. But I believe all regions were balkanized at one point or the other. Osun was carved out of Oyo state. Ekiti out of Ondo state. I am still aware that at a point the Igbos were agitating for one more state because they have the least number of states. Some states in the south west can't pay salaries and in my opinion should be re-merged. The issue is would the Igbos see themselves as not marginalized if they were given an extra state. In my opinion if the 5 Igbo states are run properly they may even begin to loan other states money. That's the economic power that can influence political power.
all the state you mentioned was not carved into other regions they are still part of south west.
Can you imagine a scenario were the coastal parts of lagos,ogun and ondo is carved into south south and are made to deny yoruba. These states i mentioned above are the engine room of south west economy and if these states are alienated to yoruba dont you think that would be another landlocked and economically unviable sokoto?

Like i said earlier, after the war, igboland was designed to be economically unviable. All the coastal areas of igbo land was ceded to the minorities, i am sure you have heard that igboland is landlocked?
That is a psychological warfare waged against igbos.

If you check well you will observe that aba is the nearest city to porthacourt. In a sane and equal country aba should be in thesame state with ph so that the port will feed the industrial/commercial city of aba.

I am from oyigbo in rivers state. In 1976 we were carved out of the present abia state and included into rivers state because we have oil in quantom. We were forced to answer oyigbo against the original obigbo just to de-igbonise us just as the did to ikwerres. The FGN carved out the whole oil producing parts of igboland into rivers,bayelsa,delta and akwa ibom just to weaken igbos. Do you know that if igboland is one we would have been the ethnic group that produces the largest amount of oil in nigeria?

What of the 20 pounds policy? The indigenisation policy? The FGN siting and allocation of industries? Less number of states to undermine us politically? What OBASANJO did to orji uzor kalu slok group and how he fustrated ibeto(whom would have been the richest man in africa) to his early death? What of resource control?

The list is endless bro, nigeria neesd to be restructured fast before it becomes too late. So dont blame igbos for what they are doing
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by explorer250(m): 6:36pm On Nov 21, 2015
Pavore9:
South East truthfully do not need another state because the present 5 states when put together is about the size of Kogi State alone! The combined size of Anambra and Imo is not up to Borgu local government in Niger State, which is just one local government out of the 25 there nor Anambra alone not up to the size of Akampa local government area in Cross River.

How were we squeezed into such small space, there must certainly be issues of areas alienated to other neighbouring states!
oga, state creation is not done because of land mass but based on population. It is aimed at making government prescence to be felt by the people. It is also used for resource destribution and political strenght. Why have the fgn not merged economically unviable states?
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Pavore9: 7:04pm On Nov 21, 2015
explorer250:
oga, state creation is not done because of land mass but based on population. It is aimed at making government prescence to be felt by the people. It is also used for resource destribution and political strenght. Why have the fgn not merged economically unviable states?
Lagos is the smallest state by land area and just about 4.4% of the size of Niger State but with over 20 million in population, so if state creation is solely based on population, what case do we have for Lagos?
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Nobody: 7:05pm On Nov 21, 2015
chosen04:
Do you know what it means to live in a region where there are no Int-l Airport(s) (Not even one) Ditto for operational Seaport. Why must i travel miles to Lagos, Abuja and Kano just to board an Int'l flight?....... Why did this Op miss the Mark? Is he related to David Mark?
Epic
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by patrick89(m): 8:57pm On Nov 21, 2015
explorer250:
all the state you mentioned was not carved into other regions they are still part of south west.
Can you imagine a scenario were the coastal parts of lagos,ogun and ondo is carved into south south and are made to deny yoruba. These states i mentioned above are the engine room of south west economy and if these states are alienated to yoruba dont you think that would be another landlocked and economically unviable sokoto?

Like i said earlier, after the war, igboland was designed to be economically unviable. All the coastal areas of igbo land was ceded to the minorities, i am sure you have heard that igboland is landlocked?
That is a psychological warfare waged against igbos.

If you check well you will observe that aba is the nearest city to porthacourt. In a sane and equal country aba should be in thesame state with ph so that the port will feed the industrial/commercial city of aba.

I am from oyigbo in rivers state. In 1976 we were carved out of the present abia state and included into rivers state because we have oil in quantom. We were forced to answer oyigbo against the original obigbo just to de-igbonise us just as the did to ikwerres. The FGN carved out the whole oil producing parts of igboland into rivers,bayelsa,delta and akwa ibom just to weaken igbos. Do you know that if igboland is one we would have been the ethnic group that produces the largest amount of oil in nigeria?

What of the 20 pounds policy? The indigenisation policy? The FGN siting and allocation of industries? Less number of states to undermine us politically? What OBASANJO did to orji uzor kalu slok group and how he fustrated ibeto(whom would have been the richest man in africa) to his early death? What of resource control?

The list is endless bro, nigeria neesd to be restructured fast before it becomes too late. So dont blame igbos for what they are doing
Don't mind them!
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Nobody: 8:39am On Nov 22, 2015
explorer250:
all the state you mentioned was not carved into other regions they are still part of south west.
Can you imagine a scenario were the coastal parts of lagos,ogun and ondo is carved into south south and are made to deny yoruba. These states i mentioned above are the engine room of south west economy and if these states are alienated to yoruba dont you think that would be another landlocked and economically unviable sokoto?

Like i said earlier, after the war, igboland was designed to be economically unviable. All the coastal areas of igbo land was ceded to the minorities, i am sure you have heard that igboland is landlocked?
That is a psychological warfare waged against igbos.

If you check well you will observe that aba is the nearest city to porthacourt. In a sane and equal country aba should be in thesame state with ph so that the port will feed the industrial/commercial city of aba.

I am from oyigbo in rivers state. In 1976 we were carved out of the present abia state and included into rivers state because we have oil in quantom. We were forced to answer oyigbo against the original obigbo just to de-igbonise us just as the did to ikwerres. The FGN carved out the whole oil producing parts of igboland into rivers,bayelsa,delta and akwa ibom just to weaken igbos. Do you know that if igboland is one we would have been the ethnic group that produces the largest amount of oil in nigeria?

What of the 20 pounds policy? The indigenisation policy? The FGN siting and allocation of industries? Less number of states to undermine us politically? What OBASANJO did to orji uzor kalu slok group and how he fustrated ibeto(whom would have been the richest man in africa) to his early death? What of resource control?

The list is endless bro, nigeria neesd to be restructured fast before it becomes too late. So dont blame igbos for what they are doing
this is quite enlightning I must say. Never read this perspective. But I would think if this is the case then the Igbos should try and win the south south states to themselves by building bridges and trust. If you reflect on my message that is what exactly I am saying. I wont partner with a friend if I feel I would be short changed .
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Nobody: 9:02am On Nov 22, 2015
Ikengawo:
[size=15pt]JAPAN SHOULDNT BE INDEPENDENT BeCAUSE NIGERIANS DRIVE NISSAN. USELESS LOGIC [/size]
But no one would buy a NISSAN if Japan is threatening its Neighbours
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Nobody: 9:04am On Nov 22, 2015
explorer250:
I am indeed touched but the marginalisation of the igbo nation is political. How can you explain the deliberate carving out of economical and naturally endowed parts of igbo land into strange states? There is more to the cry for biafra than the eye meets

Can you imagine a scenario were the coastal parts of lagos,ogun and ondo is carved into south south and are made to deny yoruba for them to survive. These states i mentioned above are the engine room of south west economy and if these states are alienated to yoruba dont you think that would be another landlocked and economically
unviable sokoto?

Like i said earlier, after the war, igboland was designed to be economically unviable.
All the coastal areas of igbo land was ceded to the minorities, i am sure you have heard that igboland is landlocked?
That is a psychological warfare waged against igbos.
If you check well you will observe that aba is the nearest city to porthacourt. In a sane and equal country aba should be in thesame state with ph so that the port will
feed the industrial/commercial city of aba.

I am from oyigbo in rivers state. In 1976 we were carved out of the present abia state and included into rivers state because we have oil in quantom. We were forced to answer oyigbo against the original obigbo just to de-igbonise us just as the did to ikwerres. The FGN carved out the whole oil producing parts of igboland
into rivers,bayelsa,delta and akwa ibom just to weaken igbos.

Do you know that if
igboland is one we would have been the ethnic group that produces the largestamount of oil in nigeria?

What of the 20 pounds policy? Theindigenisation policy? The FGN siting and allocation of industries? Less number of states to undermine us politically and in resource distribution? What
OBASANJO did to orji uzor kalu slok group and how he fustrated ibeto(whom would have been the richest man in africa) to his early death? What of resource control?
The list is endless bro, nigeria neesd to be restructured fast before it becomes too
late. So dont blame igbos for what they are doing
Well said my brother. I love it when my fellow so-called SS brothers speak out. We must continue to speak out against the evil and monstrosity meted on the Igbos.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by ikechu1278: 9:06am On Nov 22, 2015
Ikengawo:
[size=15pt]JAPAN SHOULDNT BE INDEPENDENT BeCAUSE NIGERIANS DRIVE NISSAN. USELESS LOGIC [/size]
Imagine the kind of logic this ppl are using to try and force "one Nigeria" on everyone.

Biko unu, is it by FORCE?
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by ikechu1278: 9:10am On Nov 22, 2015
bjims:
this is quite enlightning I must say. Never read this perspective. But I would think if this is the case then the Igbos should try and win the south south states to themselves by building bridges and trust. If you reflect on my message that is what exactly I am saying. I wont partner with a friend if I feel I would be short changed .
I'm delta Igbo. As someone that grew up in a heavily different ethnic state, all I can say is Nigeria will never work especially with the mindset of your typical black individuals.

Igbo's do not want to build bridges with anyone. We just want all our lands to ourselves so we can leave. The rest of Una can kumbaya with each other without us. It's that simple
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by ikechu1278: 9:16am On Nov 22, 2015
explorer250:
all the state you mentioned was not carved into other regions they are still part of south west.
Can you imagine a scenario were the coastal parts of lagos,ogun and ondo is carved into south south and are made to deny yoruba. These states i mentioned above are the engine room of south west economy and if these states are alienated to yoruba dont you think that would be another landlocked and economically unviable sokoto?

Like i said earlier, after the war, igboland was designed to be economically unviable. All the coastal areas of igbo land was ceded to the minorities, i am sure you have heard that igboland is landlocked?
That is a psychological warfare waged against igbos.

If you check well you will observe that aba is the nearest city to porthacourt. In a sane and equal country aba should be in thesame state with ph so that the port will feed the industrial/commercial city of aba.

I am from oyigbo in rivers state. In 1976 we were carved out of the present abia state and included into rivers state because we have oil in quantom. We were forced to answer oyigbo against the original obigbo just to de-igbonise us just as the did to ikwerres. The FGN carved out the whole oil producing parts of igboland into rivers,bayelsa,delta and akwa ibom just to weaken igbos. Do you know that if igboland is one we would have been the ethnic group that produces the largest amount of oil in nigeria?

What of the 20 pounds policy? The indigenisation policy? The FGN siting and allocation of industries? Less number of states to undermine us politically? What OBASANJO did to orji uzor kalu slok group and how he fustrated ibeto(whom would have been the richest man in africa) to his early death? What of resource control?

The list is endless bro, nigeria neesd to be restructured fast before it becomes too late. So dont blame igbos for what they are doing
You forgot to mention massacre that occurred in aniomaland. Many people do not even realize some of the attacks that happened in asaba, ogwashi, agbor, igbodo, etc occurred not just because Edo people sent the military towards our home and started pointing out Igbo houses but also because many refused to demy their Igbo heritage. My grandfather was among those killed because he refused to repeat he was not Igbo and he support the Nigerian government. My grandad, sadly followed the "one niggeria" claim but when they kept prompting him to claim he was not Igbo, he refused and this f2kers shot him. They literally shot him for refusing to deny who he was.

That's why I get pissed when SE attacks anioma for deniers in our community. They seriously do not understand what we went through. I'm assuming it's the same thing with river Igbos too.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by 7lives: 9:39am On Nov 22, 2015
bjims:
Sir, you seem to be among the few who have taken time to sieve my perception . My piece is based on what I see, hear and read. I don't have the Igbo genes thus I might not understand their plight as they do. That is the more reason I said been antagonistic won't help the cause. It would be nice to read your perception
Your piece is waaaaay toooooo long, not withstanding don't bother yourself with issues like Biafra or are you affected in any way?, they will sort themselves out.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Nobody: 9:45am On Nov 22, 2015
ikechu1278:
You forgot to mention massacre that occurred in aniomaland. Many people do not even realize some of the attacks that happened in asaba, ogwashi, agbor, igbodo, etc occurred not just because Edo people sent the military towards our home and started pointing out Igbo houses but also because many refused to demy their Igbo heritage. My grandfather was among those killed because he refused to repeat he was not Igbo and he support the Nigerian government. My grandad, sadly followed the "one niggeria" claim but when they kept prompting him to claim he was not Igbo, he refused and this f2kers shot him. They literally shot him for refusing to deny who he was.

That's why I get pissed when SE attacks anioma for deniers in our community. They seriously do not understand what we went through. I'm assuming it's the same thing with river Igbos too.
That's very sad, Bro.
I have seen a YouTube documentary about the massacre. Nigeria & Nigerians are Evil & Wicked!
Keep faith, there is a unification going on, We shall together conquer the enemy.
Most of the friendly fire you receive from SE are the aftermath of the war as the enemy peddled so many lies and propaganda to divide and conquer us. But it only takes The Truth one giant leap to surpass them all!
Ever wondered why they refused to teach our history in schools? Your guess is as good as mine.
Keep faith, Igbo Amaka!
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Delafruita(m): 9:59am On Nov 22, 2015
patrick89:
this is tales by moonlight! you are talking about innoson because he survived the cruel policies by obj, The ibeto cement and other related issues! the evil policies meted on them are the reason for agitation!

Igbos are asking for equity, justice and level playing ground! igbos see everything as competition, so that kind of environment can never be got from nigeria!
so bro save your hullabaloo for what we are passing through as a people is bigger than these fairytale!
we also vehemently believe that we will perform creditably well if we are on our own!! that's what you are not getting! get it into your brain!!!
is it only igbo businessmen that suffered such fate under obasanjo?it wasn't about their tribe,it was about obasanjo's style of politics.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by GentleToks(m): 10:13am On Nov 22, 2015
bjims:
At last some other person I can discuss with intelligently. But I believe all regions were balkanized at one point or the other. Osun was carved out of Oyo state. Ekiti out of Ondo state. I am still aware that at a point the Igbos were agitating for one more state because they have the least number of states. Some states in the south west can't pay salaries and in my opinion should be re-merged. The issue is would the Igbos see themselves as not marginalized if they were given an extra state. In my opinion if the 5 Igbo states are run properly they may even begin to loan other states money. That's the economic power that can influence political power.
Igbos are nothing but mischievous cretins.....

These cretins are so selfish that all they care about is Igbos domination but unfortunately for them, the other 2 major tribes are too smart for them.

There are two states in the East that couldn't pay salaries. Why didn't you merge the two states before asking 2 states in the West to be merged.

Every untarred roads is conspiracy btw Yorubas and the Northerners

Unavailability of social amenities is caused by Yorubas

Igbos failures are caused by Yorubas

Their repulsive attitude is caused by Yorubas

It was only their region that is being abandoned
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Delafruita(m): 10:15am On Nov 22, 2015
explorer250:
all the state you mentioned was not carved into other regions they are still part of south west.
Can you imagine a scenario were the coastal parts of lagos,ogun and ondo is carved into south south and are made to deny yoruba. These states i mentioned above are the engine room of south west economy and if these states are alienated to yoruba dont you think that would be another landlocked and economically unviable sokoto?

Like i said earlier, after the war, igboland was designed to be economically unviable. All the coastal areas of igbo land was ceded to the minorities, i am sure you have heard that igboland is landlocked?
That is a psychological warfare waged against igbos.

If you check well you will observe that aba is the nearest city to porthacourt. In a sane and equal country aba should be in thesame state with ph so that the port will feed the industrial/commercial city of aba.

I am from oyigbo in rivers state. In 1976 we were carved out of the present abia state and included into rivers state because we have oil in quantom. We were forced to answer oyigbo against the original obigbo just to de-igbonise us just as the did to ikwerres. The FGN carved out the whole oil producing parts of igboland into rivers,bayelsa,delta and akwa ibom just to weaken igbos. Do you know that if igboland is one we would have been the ethnic group that produces the largest amount of oil in nigeria?

What of the 20 pounds policy? The indigenisation policy? The FGN siting and allocation of industries? Less number of states to undermine us politically? What OBASANJO did to orji uzor kalu slok group and how he fustrated ibeto(whom would have been the richest man in africa) to his early death? What of resource control?

The list is endless bro, nigeria neesd to be restructured fast before it becomes too late. So dont blame igbos for what they are doing
the igbos at a certain time decided to secede and attempted to take the lifeblood of Nigeria with them and so you expect that after their attempt failed,the Nigerian nation will myopically leave itself porous?states are federating units of the country as enshrined in the constitution and can be divided in anyway it is deemed fit.

Orji kalu issue with obasanjo was political and nothing else.kalu was backing atiku to run against obasanjo in 2003 and was himself considering running in 2007 and at a point even accused obasanjo and anenih of sending assasins after him.so to give that episode a tribal coloration will be dishonest.

cletus ibeto is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the obasanjo regime because obasanjo tried to use him tobreak dangote's cement monopoly.his problems started when dangote instituted a court case against him over a wide range of issues during the yar'adua regime.however,the issues were about his cement lime and had no effect on any of his other businesses.that was a squabble between 2 businessmen and shouldn't be given tribal coloration.dangote at a time had issues with Femi otedola and even succeeded in wrecking the share value of AP as it was then known.but they resolved their issues like businessmen just like dangote and ibeto resolved their issues

I personally don't like the 20pound policy but there was no other way.the igbos had changed their currency during the war and forfeited all their ions outside igboland.or were you assuming biafra will succeed and igbos will return to nigeria to still retain their money,businesses and properties like nothing happened?the biafra war effort failed after more than 3years during which the central government expended a lot of its finances.it was in the spirit of reconciliation that it was decided that every igbo person be given 20pounds irrespective of whether they had more or less in the bank.lets also not forget that ojukwu took back all his father's properties.so if anyone lost out,its those who followed him blindly into war
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Nobody: 10:35am On Nov 22, 2015
patrick89:
You are right!
they were all over the place especially on twitter shouting that kachiukwu is not igbo enough, I search everywhere I couldn't find where a single igbo person insinuated that! infact the only thing people kept saying was he didn't appoint from SE! but yorubas were everywhere shouting igbos are saying he's not igbo enough!!

but that is their problem! we will never be deterred in our objective and goals!!
hater gonna hate!!
Who fucking cares. Continue wailing.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Ballmer:
explorer250:
I am indeed touched but the marginalisation of the igbo nation is political. How can you explain the deliberate carving out of economical and naturally endowed parts of igbo land into strange states? There is more to the cry for biafra than the eye meets

Can you imagine a scenario were the coastal parts of lagos,ogun and ondo is carved into south south and are made to deny yoruba for them to survive. These states i mentioned above are the engine room of south west economy and if these states are alienated to yoruba dont you think that would be another landlocked and economically
unviable sokoto?
How you compare things not comparable just to feel justified is beyond me. In as much as the marginalisation of the Igbo is political your brain does not necessarily have to go political in your argument. That only expose the stupidity of your thought.

Ogun Lagos Ondo are all Yoruba speaking state.You can not say the same for Akwa Ibom, Cross Rivers Bayelsa etc. Edo n Delta got carved out of the old Western region n no one is wailing like you doing now.


explorer250:
Like i said earlier, after the war, igboland was designed to be economically unviable.
All the coastal areas of igbo land was ceded to the minorities, i am sure you have heard that igboland is landlocked? That is a psychological warfare waged against igbos. If you check well you will observe that aba is the nearest city to porthacourt. In a sane and equal country aba should be in thesame state with ph so that the port will feed the industrial/commercial city of aba.
One problem I have always had with idiots that argues foolishly on issues like you just did is for you to tell me what gave you the audacity to decide how states are to be divided in Nigeria ? What stake does your father have in Nigeria for your thought to be considered in such matter.

Was your brain dead before the war that you did not notice all those states were under the old Eastern Region ?

Is your brain dead to the extent that you do not realise war as repercussion ? Does that not justify the decision to segregate the igbos into their on state in case you truly want to cede since you are the one leading the clamour for it ?

Or you foolishly bliv Nigeria should continuously include the Efik Ibibio Ijaws etc into your Igbotic state to strengthen your agitation. Have you sat down to vilify why the Igbo went to war the war you are vilifying why Nigeria tries to reduce the overbearing tendencies of the igbos which led to the war in the first place ?

explorer250:
I am from oyigbo in rivers state. In 1976 we were carved out of the present abia state and included into rivers state because we have oil in quantom. We were forced to answer oyigbo against the original obigbo just to de-igbonise us just as the did to ikwerres. The FGN carved out the whole oil producing parts of igboland
into rivers,bayelsa,delta and akwa ibom just to weaken igbos. Do you know that if
igboland is one we would have been the ethnic group that produces the largestamount of oil in nigeria?
Delusions like this led your forefather n fathers into war, you are already threading the part of perdition in the new century but please continue.

Every Nigeria knows that Igbo are not among the 4 largest oil producing tribe in Nigeria but but you can continue with all pleasure to keep fooling your fellow morronss while bragging about what your father's n forefathers never owned.


explorer250:
What of the 20 pounds policy? Theindigenisation policy? The FGN siting and allocation of industries? Less number of states to undermine us politically and in resource distribution? What
OBASANJO did to orji uzor kalu slok group and how he fustrated ibeto(whom would have been the richest man in africa) to his early death? What of resource control?
The list is endless bro, nigeria neesd to be restructured fast before it becomes too
late. So dont blame igbos for what they are doing
It is thunder that will destroy every Igbo that is sympathetic to this line of thought you raised.

What tribe were ever paid 20 pound after instigating a war ?

You have various civil wars in Africa America Asia n even Europe to chose from. From Rwanda Liberia Sierra Leone, Congo democratic, Congo Kinshasa, Ethopia Eritrea Somalia Kosovo Cambodia etc

I repeat it is thunder that will destroy every Igbo that is sympathetic to this line of argument.

Amadioha destroy every member of your family. Igbo are suppose to be paying reparations worth billions of dollars for instigating the war till today but idiot like you are complaining you were being giving 20 pounds to start your lives. Did the federal govt of Nigeria send mopol to your house to collect money from you that they need to pay you ? Ogun kill you.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Ballmer: 11:28am On Nov 22, 2015
patmaine:
nice try

pls tell us why they cry blue murder wen Stella odua. upgraded enugu to international standard..

pls tell us why warri. calabar portharcourt seaport don't function..

pls tell me a money spinning employment federal government investment in d south east

can u explain carving of ndoki benue Igbo kogi Igbo anioma. out of south east.

pls tell us why they are waiting for us to forget anambra kogi boundary issue. so they can sneak it up to kogi?

tell me if u want more.


trash..
The trash is in the lunacy you just displayed crying victim as always.

Please can you tell me why Kwara is now in the middle belt ?

Please tell me why Kogi is no longer in the South West ?

Please why was Edo state carved out of the old Western regions

Why is Delta state now NigerDelta ?

What money spinning investment do you have in the NorthEast n NorthWest ?

Why do you Igbos think you deserve beta than every other Nigerian ?

There are many more similar insinuations n every tribe can go on n on. If you couple that with fact that no other tribe ever instigated civil war in Nigeria am sure the lunacy of your argument will be as bright as the rising sun.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Ballmer: 11:40am On Nov 22, 2015
ikechu1278:
I'm delta Igbo. As someone that grew up in a heavily different ethnic state, all I can say is Nigeria will never work especially with the mindset of your typical black individuals.

Igbo's do not want to build bridges with anyone. We just want all our lands to ourselves so we can leave. The rest of Una can kumbaya with each other without us. It's that simple
For your mind Delta state would be part of Biafra ba ? Be rest assured one LGA. Will not be part of Biafra should it come to pass. It was never part of the Eastern region which is what you refer to as Biafra today n it would never be.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Ballmer: 11:49am On Nov 22, 2015
Pavore9:
Lagos is the smallest state by land area and just about 4.4% of the size of Niger State but with over 20 million in population, so if state creation is solely based on population, what case do we have for Lagos?
Those mofos will not be able to respond to this
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Pavore9: 12:16pm On Nov 22, 2015
Ballmer:
Those mofos will not be able to respond to this
Not many people are comfortable with argument based on verifiable figures.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by ikechu1278: 12:22pm On Nov 22, 2015
Ballmer:
For your mind Delta state would be part of Biafra ba ? Be rest assured one LGA. Will not be part of Biafra should it come to pass. It was never part of the Eastern region which is what you refer to as Biafra today n it would never be.
This is why I cannot for the life of me stand you savages from South West. WTF concerns yoloba with my ANCESTORS LAND? That fool wey force us into a nation with you savages NEVER appointed you dimwit as our spokesperson. I can never in my life understand a tribe so damn worthless they always but their @sses in situation that has NO FACTOR towards them and noone asked for their f2king opinion.

As I told your savage brothers repeatedly, you all know where the f2k Delta North is..come force us to stay in that shithole una call a nation when Biafra is made. we f2king dare una. Worthless, dimwit savage clan.

Get the f2k out of my face. When I need an attention seeking wh0re, I'll call you to come shout nonsense
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Nobody: 12:41pm On Nov 22, 2015
They should sell out the country then I will take them serious
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by ikechu1278: 12:46pm On Nov 22, 2015
More example of yoloba stupidity. The most ignorant tribe in Nigeria always running their mouth when they have no knowledge on what the f2k they are talking about

Ballmer:
How you compare things not comparable just to feel justified is beyond me. In as much as the marginalisation of the Igbo is political your brain does not necessarily have to go political in your argument. That only expose the stupidity of your thought.

Ogun Lagos Ondo are all Yoruba speaking state.You can not say the same for Akwa Ibom, Cross Rivers Bayelsa etc. Edo n Delta got carved out of the old Western region n no one is wailing like you doing now.
Dude, know what the guy is talking about dumb@ss before typing. His comment was not about Akwa Ibom, Cross Rivers, Baylesa, etc. His comment was about Oyigbo, Egbema, etc carved out of SE and put in river state, etc due to the high oil found in that community. Unlike Edo and Delta that asked to be removed from Western Nigeria. Oyigbo, Egbema, asa etc are igbo communities and neither asked to be removed out of SE. Infact, Oyigbo in rivers are currently asking to be put back with Abia. Incase your @ss didn't know Oyigbo and Egbema community were divided based on the oil in that land. The part of Oyigbo and Egbema that had oil during the first state division by Gowon were pushed to river state while the part without oil were left in Abia and Imo state respectively hence the reason that community is divided into two states. It is literally the same situation with Igbanke of Anioma being pulled out of our community to Edo state despite Igbanke never asked to be removed and put in Edo state. Infact, they are equally begging to be pushed back to Delta.


One problem I have always had with idiots that argues foolishly on issues like you just did is for you to tell me what gave you the audacity to decide how states are to be divided in Nigeria ? What stake does your father have in Nigeria for your thought to be considered in such matter.
Nigeria is a failed state created by an Oyigbo. We have every right to determine how Igbo land would be carved because it was OUR LAND, not niggerian lands.

Was your brain dead before the war that you did not notice all those states were under the old Eastern Region ?
Ironic this fool called explorer brain dead when from this post alone, it's obvious the ediot had no clue what explorer post was about. instead he felt like ranting.

Is your brain dead to the extent that you do not realise war as repercussion ? Does that not justify the decision to segregate the igbos into their on state in case you truly want to cede since you are the one leading the clamour for it ?
More example of this illiterate cluelessness. Clap for yourself. kudos!!

Or you foolishly bliv Nigeria should continuously include the Efik Ibibio Ijaws etc into your Igbotic state to strengthen your agitation. Have you sat down to vilify why the Igbo went to war the war you are vilifying why Nigeria tries to reduce the overbearing tendencies of the igbos which led to the war in the first place ?
I can bet una a billion dollars that if I go through this dimwit past post, he is one of those that accused GEJ for being "clueless" but behold, the brain dead fool is just ranting and ranting despite having zero understanding of wtf he read. What a dimwit.


Delusions like this led your forefather n fathers into war, you are already threading the part of perdition in the new century but please continue.

Every Nigeria knows that Igbo are not among the 4 largest oil producing tribe in Nigeria but but you can continue with all pleasure to keep fooling your fellow morronss while bragging about what your father's n forefathers never owned.
Illiterate. The two communities I mentioned, Oyigbo and Egbema are the largest oil producing area of River state dumb@ss. The guy you quote himself is from one of those communities. And he's comment in which obviously flew past your head is starting if Gowon didn't tear apart a community all because he feared igboland with "oil" and pushed them into a state they never asked or wished for, Abia and Imo would have been a large oil producing state. Infact the oil found in both states, imo and abia, is also found in those communities (sadly for Gowon, the part he left in the two state ended up finding oil in their land as well but not as large as their siblings in River state)



It is thunder that will destroy every Igbo that is sympathetic to this line of thought you raised.

What tribe were ever paid 20 pound after instigating a war ?

You have various civil wars in Africa America Asia n even Europe to chose from. From Rwanda Liberia Sierra Leone, Congo democratic, Congo Kinshasa, Ethopia Eritrea Somalia Kosovo Cambodia etc

I repeat it is thunder that will destroy every Igbo that is sympathetic to this line of argument.

Amadioha destroy every member of your family. Igbo are suppose to be paying reparations worth billions of dollars for instigating the war till today but idiot like you are complaining you were being giving 20 pounds to start your lives. Did the federal govt of Nigeria send mopol to your house to collect money from you that they need to pay you ? Ogun kill you.
May thunder fire your @ss for pure lie. The first people to invade Biafra was Niggeria. The first people to fire the first shot was once again Niggeria. Biafran peacefully left that country and declared their own nation. Your savage ancestors invaded their land. This is the well documented FACT!!
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Ballmer: 2:26pm On Nov 22, 2015
ikechu1278:
More example of yoloba stupidity. The most ignorant tribe in Nigeria always running their mouth when they have no knowledge on what the f2k they are talking about



Dude, know what the guy is talking about dumb@ss before typing. His comment was not about Akwa Ibom, Cross Rivers, Baylesa, etc. His comment was about Oyigbo, Egbema, etc carved out of SE and put in river state, etc due to the high oil found in that community. Unlike Edo and Delta that asked to be removed from Western Nigeria. Oyigbo, Egbema, asa etc are igbo communities and neither asked to be removed out of SE. Infact, Oyigbo in rivers are currently asking to be put back with Abia. Incase your @ss didn't know Oyigbo and Egbema community were divided based on the oil in that land. The part of Oyigbo and Egbema that had oil during the first state division by Gowon were pushed to river state while the part without oil were left in Abia and Imo state respectively hence the reason that community is divided into two states. It is literally the same situation with Igbanke of Anioma being pulled out of our community to Edo state despite Igbanke never asked to be removed and put in Edo state. Infact, they are equally begging to be pushed back to Delta.




Nigeria is a failed state created by an Oyigbo. We have every right to determine how Igbo land would be carved because it was OUR LAND, not niggerian lands.


Ironic this fool called explorer brain dead when from this post alone, it's obvious the ediot had no clue what explorer post was about. instead he felt like ranting.


More example of this illiterate cluelessness. Clap for yourself. kudos!!


I can bet una a billion dollars that if I go through this dimwit past post, he is one of those that accused GEJ for being "clueless" but behold, the brain dead fool is just ranting and ranting despite having zero understanding of wtf he read. What a dimwit.




Illiterate. The two communities I mentioned, Oyigbo and Egbema are the largest oil producing area of River state dumb@ss. The guy you quote himself is from one of those communities. And he's comment in which obviously flew past your head is starting if Gowon didn't tear apart a community all because he feared igboland with "oil" and pushed them into a state they never asked or wished for, Abia and Imo would have been a large oil producing state. Infact the oil found in both states, imo and abia, is also found in those communities (sadly for Gowon, the part he left in the two state ended up finding oil in their land as well but not as large as their siblings in River state)





May thunder fire your @ss for pure lie. The first people to invade Biafra was Niggeria. The first people to fire the first shot was once again Niggeria. Biafran peacefully left that country and declared their own nation. Your savage ancestors invaded their land. This is the well documented FACT!!
Reading from retardss that argue senselessly about Igbo n Biafra is sickening to me. Just before you start dripping hokums concerning thing your brain wave could not comprehend. Edo n Delta state never asked to be excluded from Western Region unlike the Ibibios Ikwerre etc that ask daily never to be classified as Igbos.

Any lunatic can wake up like you foolls n decide to draw the boundaries around crude oil communities and claim its their fathers compound like you Igbos are doing.

Nigeria invaded Biafra by Igbos killing the Nigeria prime minister n governors of both the northern n western region. How I wish God could strike people like you dead instantly for all the treacherous lies you tell daily.

Igbo do not deserve a thing more than they already have in Nigeria. You can all go to hell if you think you deserve more privileges than the others. This is one reason I love buhari. Putting Igbo right in their place without any favour. I would love Biafra to go to war during his time so he can show you he is no Gowon.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Ballmer: 2:38pm On Nov 22, 2015
ikechu1278:
This is why I cannot for the life of me stand you savages from South West. WTF concerns yoloba with my ANCESTORS LAND? That fool wey force us into a nation with you savages NEVER appointed you dimwit as our spokesperson. I can never in my life understand a tribe so damn worthless they always but their @sses in situation that has NO FACTOR towards them and noone asked for their f2king opinion.

As I told your savage brothers repeatedly, you all know where the f2k Delta North is..come force us to stay in that shithole una call a nation when Biafra is made. we f2king dare una. Worthless, dimwit savage clan.

Get the f2k out of my face. When I need an attention seeking wh0re, I'll call you to come shout nonsense
Yoruba will continuously be your nightmare like they were nightmare to your father's n forefathers. For every Igbo falsehood there will always be a Yoruba to taunt you with the truth. Your ancestors never knew what a map was talk less of drawing one to include all your desired crude oil rich communities.

Wake up from your slumber your Biafra father n forefathers or you do not have any right to dictate what community would, should be in what state in Nigeria. If you are not okay as it as been documented the only option you have to get a rope and do the needful.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Curlieweed: 3:00pm On Nov 22, 2015
bjims:
But no one would buy a NISSAN if Japan is threatening its Neighbours
Actually, Japan didn't only threaten her neighbours, she enslaved and murdered millions especially in China and Korea. In elementary economics, we are taught that consumers strive to maximize utility, not to make political statements.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by ikechu1278: 3:09pm On Nov 22, 2015
Ballmer:
Reading from retardss that argue senselessly about Igbo n Biafra is sickening to me. Just before you start dripping hokums concerning thing your brain wave could not comprehend. Edo n Delta state never asked to be excluded from Western Region unlike the Ibibios Ikwerre etc that ask daily never to be classified as Igbos.
More example of this illiterate ranting sh1ts he's clueless about. Is it some kind of disease with you savage monkies from Southwest.

If you have little to zero clue wtf you talking, do the world a favpur and don't spread your stupidity everywhere.
1.) It is a well documented FACT edo and delta repeatedly asked to be removed from western region specifically to get the hell away from you yoloba savages. A referendum was even conducted and majority voted to get out unlike wtf happened with the division of eastern region
Look at this buf00n trying to tell me my history

Here read and get you illiterate mind educated dumb@ss
http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/ethnichistories/egharevbalectures/Fifth-Omoigui.htm
http://www.dawodu.net/igho.htm

In addition, the damn illiterate still couldn't grasp wtf broken down in simpler form for him. No wonder you South West savages are head in head with north in terms education in that zoo.

Any lunatic can wake up like you foolls n decide to draw the boundaries around crude oil communities and claim its their fathers compound like you Igbos are doing.
Is this buf00n for real?

I'm not even going to argue with this illiterate in another well known FACT.

Question was Egbema and oyigbo carved out of Abia and Imo state? Yes or no?

If you say no, care to narrate to us all why their lands stretched from river state to the two states mentioned
Why are oyigbo imdigienous currently asked to be returned back to abia state. Dumb@ss.

Typical of a yoloba cow. Very clueless but they shout the most. Worthless savages

Nigeria invaded Biafra by Igbos killing the Nigeria prime minister n governors of both the northern n western region. How I wish God could strike people like you dead instantly for all the treacherous lies you tell daily.
What happened afterwards? You f2king illiterate jailed and killed the soldiers resoiinsible did you not? But as usual, Una savagery wasn't satisfied so you went after civilians whom had no hand whatsoever in the killing. While I'm at it, if you deluded, illiterate @ss actually opened a book and read for once in your miserable life, you would have known SE wasn't pact of the coup buff00n. The people involved were predominately delta igbo...ika, two aniocha and you yoloba savage.

Igbo do not deserve a thing more than they already have in Nigeria. You can all go to hell if you think you deserve more privileges than the others. This is one reason I love buhari. Putting Igbo right in their place without any favour. I would love Biafra to go to war during his time so he can show you he is no Gowon.
Your worthless bihari couldn't even defeat a small group BH. Una couldn't even defeat mend and had to pay them off and it took you f2kers 3 good ole years before uba could defeat biafra despite biafra had less weapons and less allies. Let make matter worse, they wiped your soldiers @ss so bad, you savages resulted to attacking their civilian just to comensate on the @ss shipping. Ever wonder why your savage Niggeria had more military casualities than biafra despite biafra had less weapon. While Biafra had more civilian casualties. Fucking f00l.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by ikechu1278: 3:12pm On Nov 22, 2015
Ballmer:
Yoruba will continuously be your nightmare like they were nightmare to your father's n forefathers. For every Igbo falsehood there will always be a Yoruba to taunt you with the truth. Your ancestors never knew what a map was talk less of drawing one to include all your desired crude oil rich communities.

Wake up from your slumber your Biafra father n forefathers or you do not have any right to dictate what community would, should be in what state in Nigeria. If you are not okay as it as been documented the only option you have to get a rope and do the needful.
As I said to you coward....step to delta north and try and dictate to us where to take our ancestors lands to. We are waiting.

All this nonsensical, illiterate is boring. Don't be the typical yoloba coward. Go to Asaba, ogwashi, ibusa, etc... we'll be waiting. Ewu!!!
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by Ballmer: 12:32am On Nov 23, 2015
ikechu1278:
As I said to you coward....step to delta north and try and dictate to us where to take our ancestors lands to. We are waiting.

All this nonsensical, illiterate is boring. Don't be the typical yoloba coward. Go to Asaba, ogwashi, ibusa, etc... we'll be waiting. Ewu!!!
When the time comes your father n forefather would pray they never originated or made the fault line their hometown. Find out what happens to fault line like Cremia Kashmir, Gaza, boundaries btw North n South Koreas.
Re: Innoson Motors, Igbos And The Quest For Biafra: My Perception. by basilo101: 1:58am On Nov 23, 2015
Ballmer:
The trash is in the lunacy you just displayed crying victim as always.

Please can you tell me why Kwara is now in the middle belt ?

Please tell me why Kogi is no longer in the South West ?

Please why was Edo state carved out of the old Western regions

Why is Delta state now NigerDelta ?

What money spinning investment do you have in the NorthEast n NorthWest ?

Why do you Igbos think you deserve beta than every other Nigerian ?

There are many more similar insinuations n every tribe can go on n on. If you couple that with fact that no other tribe ever instigated civil war in Nigeria am sure the lunacy of your argument will be as bright as the rising sun.
The proper question should be "why should igbo potentials be delibrately underutilized in order to be at par with lazy nigerians"? The author talked about Innoson motors, why cant innoson fly to the rest of the world from his geopolitical zone until recently, why must he be forced to go to certain region who fold their arm or killing themselves over free oil money while he build an auto company from the scratch
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