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luvtreasure0:
If they worship the creator as u say,den y do u face d moon (his creation) n worship him. Knowing dat God almighty is the creator of dat moon himself.

Deuteronomy 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.


So bowing down to anything other than God is idol worshipping already....... and we all know u pple av ur shrine resident in mecca. U worship idol not same God with d Christian. Pls read wide n don't exempt yourself on jx d quran.

Beautiful story of Abraham in the Qur'an and the truth that muslims don't worship the moon.

6:74 Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar: "Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error."

6:75 So also did We show Abraham the power and the laws of the heavens and the earth, that he might (with understanding) have certitude.

6:76 When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: "This is my Lord." But when it set, He said: "I love not those that set."

6:77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: "This is my Lord." But when the moon set, He said: "unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray."

6:78 When he saw the sun rising in splendour, he said: "This is my Lord; this is the greatest (of all)." But when the sun set, he said: "O my people! I am indeed free from your (guilt) of giving partners to God.

6:79 "For me, I have set my face, firmly and truly, towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth, and never shall I give partners to God."

Den what connection dos the Muslims have with the moon, n black stone dat reside in kabbah, mecca?

kimond101:
Please educate your ignorance with a Quran and not the behaviour of some muslims.
Thank you.

The Qur'an is this....

Beesluv:
Lailla ilallahu muhammadu Rosulullahi (SAW)

This..

kimond101:
Jesus is a muslim and he is coming back by the will of God. We Muslims worship the creator of Jesus and we love and follow the teachings revealed to Jesus from God.

Your proposal has been reviewed and i can tell you confidently that muslims worship God alone who created the heavens and the earth and rose over His throne in the manner that suits His majesty.

God created Adam from clay (nothing)
Eve from Adam (man )
You and I from our parents (Man and Woman )
Jesus from Mary (Woman )
My God uses this similitude to establish the fact that indeed He is able to do all things.

I'll advice you to worship the Creator and not His creation.

Yes I do have peace as a muslim my God is As-Salam (Giver of Peace).
Like the proverbial saying: Not until you go to another man's farm you'll think your fathersite farm is the biggest. That is don't think muslims don't have peace within them because of what some evil people are doing in the name of islam. Islam comes from the word peace, when we see a fellow muslim we greet each other with peace, when we finish praying we close the prayer with peace.

I'll humbly propose to you to learn about islam with an open mind. Like you said you don't want to regret on the day of Judgment.

Jesus didnt teach children to use the gun.

yomip3t:
May Allah swt bless you. I love all you posted here especially " worship the Creator and not His creation "
May Allah swt open their eyes and ears just like I was freed 4yrs ago.
Islam is just the best. I've never regretted my conversion to Islam... I enjoy every moment.
Story of Jesus is widely stated and explained in Precious Book.
Not only Jesus but all the messengers that was sent.

You have sold your soul to the devil. See it...

kimond101:
My God does not beget neither was he begotten because it is His creations that have that kind of attribute.
Muslims believe in Jesus so we are bound to have eternal life.
Thank you.

Muslim Jesus is not same as the bible. Jesus showed love and never killed anyone. Muhammad did the contrary. See his followers doing the same thing today...children carry gun in islam. Allah is satan.

kimond101:
Islam comes from the word peace, when we see a fellow muslim we greet each other with peace, when we finish praying we close the prayer with peace.

I'll humbly propose to you to learn about islam with an open mind. Like you said you don't want to regret on the day of Judgment.

Still the old lie.The Quran leans towards violence. That’s fact. It’s authenticity has and still is questioned. Mohammad (stress be upon him) was a warrior leader and committed many morally questionable actions.killing raping, raiding caravans, exchanging two black slaves for one arab, married a child of 6, the list is on and on. Just stop deceiving yourselves. Am here to expose all your lies..islam knows no peace. They kill always.

luvtreasure0:
Quran? Can u hear yourself clearly.
Quran laws like sura 4:89 that astonishes killing or wat? Hmmmmmm I think u need d bible

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kimond101:
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But if they turn away, catch them and slaughter them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." (4:89)
This verse has been misquoted out of context. Here is the full passage:

4:88-91 Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way. They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they forsake the domain of evil in the way of God (from what is forbidden). But if they revert to [open] enmity, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If God had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then God hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them
So in the same manner as the first verse, this verse also only commands Muslims to fight those who practice oppression or persecution, or attack the Muslims. And in the event of a battle, the same laws of war are in place and a Muslim who transgresses limits should prepare for the punishment of God. In response to a question on verses 4:88-89, Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi quotes the verses in their full context and then asks the following:

Now tell me honestly, do these verses give a free permission to kill any one anywhere? These verses were revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), at the time when Muslims were attacked by the non-Muslims of Makkah on a regular basis. They were frightening the Muslim community of Madinah. One may say using the contemporary jargon that there were constant terrorist attacks on Madinah and in this situation Muslims were given permission to fight back the “terrorist”. These verses are not a permission for “terrorism” but they are a warning against the “terrorists.” But even in these warnings you can see how much restraint and care is emphasized. (SOURCE, emphasis added)
It is also important to note that the Qur'an clearly condemns murder. The Qur’an says about the prohibition of murder,

6:151 Take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom. 17:33 Nor take life, which God has made sacred, except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas(retribution) or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law) 5:32...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people
So the Qur'an makes it very clear that Muslims cannot initiate an attack against others, unless there is an immediate threat of being attacked. The context of the quoted verses applies only to situations where the oppressors are killing Muslims. In this case, they have a right to defend themselves and others, especially the weak and oppressed.[/s]

RUBBISH! !!!

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kimond101:
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Madame/Mr whatever you choose to believe is your choice in life. The truth stands clear from falsehood. Worship your creator not his creation.
There's no compulsion in religion. That people (muslims /non muslims ) transgress the bounds as prescribed by God doesn't mean they are obeying God.
A religious man who feels a woman must get pregnant before he puts a ring on it is in the same category as transgressors.
When a woman fornicates and shouts 'Oh my God' or 'Jesus' doesn't mean they are obeying God in that transgression and God likes what she's doing, same goes to those who shout Allahu Akbar before committing terror.
Every man is on his own on the say of judgement and we will all be accountable for all our actions. As a muslim man who believes in the Qur'an and the true message of islam, I and many other muslim buttress the point that terror has no place in islam. Whatever terror is associated with Islam is misguidance. [/s]

TOUJOURS RUBBISH! !! 130 people were killed cold blooded in Paris few days ago. The Muslims terrorists were shouting allah akubar. This is for allah. You are here trying to say they do not know the Qur'an. Do u know the Qur'an better than the arabs?

kimond101:
[s] Muslim - By definition means one who submits to the will of God. And belives God is One with no partners in his dominion. Islam is the believe of being a muslim.

Christian - By definition is someone who believe he Jesus Christ his is personal lord and saviour. And believes God is 3 in 1 (Father, Son and Holy spirit). Christianity is the believe of being a christian.

In logical reasoning i would like to ask since we both believe in Adam, Abraham, Moses, David, John, Joseph, Zakariah, Solomon, Mary etc. What was their religion since they all came before Jesus and they would be in paradise by the grace of God?

Thank you for your kind words and God bless you aswell.
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And the will of God is to massacre 2000 people in a day raid in Nigeria. In january muslims killed 16 people in Paris in revenge for muhammed caricatured? This is the islam you preach to people who show you love. Who feed you, clothe you and educate you free. All you do in return is kill them because they criticized/questioned your religion? I see, islam is PEACE..

kimond101:
We have the Quran to read.
Any human can right up anything to justify their believe.
The truth stands clear from falsehood.
Muslims worship the creator and not His creation.

Muslim s warship allah the arabian idol god. Only satan will kill people who worship him. Mecca stampede 800 lives gone. ..

gimakon:
You Once a Muslim chief?

No. Like we've been saying, going to church doesn't make one Christian. I just studied the Qur'an, the hadiths and books of Islamic teachers because I wanted to understand them.

plappville:
You have sold your soul to the devil. See it...

Replying you might be a waste of time..... but I'd love if you spend that time to study ISLAM and not MUSLIMS.

kimond101:
Jesus is a muslim and he is coming back by the will of God. We Muslims worship the creator of Jesus and we love and follow the teachings revealed to Jesus from God.

Your proposal has been reviewed and i can tell you confidently that muslims worship God alone who created the heavens and the earth and rose over His throne in the manner that suits His majesty.

God created Adam from clay (nothing)
Eve from Adam (man )
You and I from our parents (Man and Woman )
Jesus from Mary (Woman )
My God uses this similitude to establish the fact that indeed He is able to do all things.

I'll advice you to worship the Creator and not His creation.

Yes I do have peace as a muslim my God is As-Salam (Giver of Peace).
Like the proverbial saying: Not until you go to another man's farm you'll think your fathersite farm is the biggest. That is don't think muslims don't have peace within them because of what some evil people are doing in the name of islam. Islam comes from the word peace, when we see a fellow muslim we greet each other with peace, when we finish praying we close the prayer with peace.

I'll humbly propose to you to learn about islam with an open mind. Like you said you don't want to regret on the day of Judgment.

I see truth economics in your post. The whole truth is that you accept some of the teachings of Jesus, NOT all. The one you find acceptable you accept, others not acceptable to you claim they are fake and doctored.

WHAT HONEST MUSLIMS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT MOHAMMED'S FIRST VISION:

https://www.nairaland.com/2755963/mohammeds-first-vision-what-honest#40394276

Any Muslim who answers these questions thoughtfully can make it to Paradise:
https://www.nairaland.com/2773850/muslim-answers-these-questions-thoughtfully#40577570

Depending on what happens next anyway.