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The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by HCpaul(m): 5:25pm On Nov 24, 2015
This is actually one of my shortest post, so you are all encourage to stay through to the end.


THE CREATOR, THE CREATURE, AND THE CREATION

An average unbeliver or atheist will not argue the existence of the creature (man), and likewise the creation (universe) but will debate to the core with all their intellect how absurd the idea of spirituality is.

The arguement and the propagander will commense until they are made to know the difference between life and existence, and likewise the difference that emerge between existence and discoveries.

It is observed that most arguement about the need of a creator for the universe are usually presented in the form of scientific proofs and discoveries.
The language of science is actually two sided; Researches and Discoveries.

It is absolutely impossible to be searching for what has not been in existence already i.e. Created.
And it is also impossible to discover without the discovery already been into existence.

If Obama didn't exist, it will be impossible to search for Obama and discover him without him already been into existence.

Now, Obama did not just appear into this world uncreated and unconditional, but via the means of a father (parent).
Meaning, Obama was conceived (created) and was born out of a factory framed womb.

Secondly, all of science achievements and technologies was invented.
Meaning, their was no robot in the 17th century only because it wasn't discovered.
This gives rise to this sudden questions:

- Before a man invented a car, was there car?

- Before internet was invented, was it present in the world?

- Before you write your new comment, will it be there?


Then how come you come up with the conclusion that the universe was uncreated, and that a non-living entity tagged "evolution" created the material world.
How can a non-living body which is inactive in life span perfectly create a universe like this, yet every advancement we have on earth today was achieved by intelligent being like you and i.

It takes only a living being (and not a living thing) to maniputate the creation.
I don't underestimate the reality of evolution theory, but i rather count it as a validity for the creation been active.

If humanity which was concieved and delivered appear into this world dependently, then how can a non-living thing comes to this world independently?
The evolution precepts is just a fictitious tales and illusion designed by the devil and his co-workers to abolish the validity of the spirit realm.
This will actually be deaply explain in my next post.


Conclusively, I thereby want the world to show to we christians a technology that was not invented, and we will admit the universe that ain't created.

A creator responsibility is to create, while a creature duty is to to be creative.
As a sensitive being, i consider human creativity as the best expression of God's creative power.
We are thereby employed not to underestimate the creator's ability with our own limitations and inability.


Everything existed, but not all things are embedded into life. Their is a broad difference between existence and life.
Prove to us the theorem that holds life and the existence protocols.



The uncreated creator created a creative creature to creatively manipulate the created creation.

God (the creator) is the ultimate source.

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Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by respect80(m): 5:29pm On Nov 24, 2015
I have seen a man being shot but didn't die, just his cloth was torn by the bullet.

So if there is nothing like spirituality then let the atheists explain the energy responsible for such power.

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Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Aceed: 5:39pm On Nov 24, 2015
I sooo love this post grin
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Humblebloke(m): 8:14am On Nov 25, 2015
The uncreated creator came out of nowheregringrin


Lameundecided
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by HCpaul(m): 6:14pm On Nov 25, 2015
Humblebloke:
The uncreated creator came out of nowheregringrin


Lameundecided



If he was created, then he wouldn't be call God.
He is God because he has the power to cause himself out of life and also to recieve it back again.

He came from somewhere. Ask and the answer will be giving to you.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Humblebloke(m): 7:33pm On Nov 25, 2015
HCpaul:


If he was created, then he wouldn't be call God.
He is God because he has the power to cause himself out of life and also to recieve it back again.

He came from somewhere. Ask and the answer will be giving to you.

undecided..... Interesting.... So where did it come from
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Nobody: 8:12pm On Nov 25, 2015
Nice smiley

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Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by HCpaul(m): 9:21pm On Nov 25, 2015
Humblebloke:


undecided..... Interesting.... So where did it come from

Gud... I appreciate your humility, but next time try to use He because he is a male based on gender.


Back to the answer that you requested.



The idea of God is indeed beyond human comprehension, but however, an explanation has to be generated to validate his existence formation.

God was uncreated and in other word, he created himself.
He really came from somewhere, and i could say that he came from the realm present outside the creation.

God is capable of creating himself, and that is why Jesus spoke to us in this manner.
The Bible will never leave us without a witness.

There are two major attributes about the characteristics of God existence.

- Power

- Wisdom

I could see men having confidence in wealth, intelligence and knowledge, and even claiming that knowledge is power which is wrong.

God have his own confidence in his power and his wisdom.

The psalmist identified it this way that "One thing i hear the Lord said, i am very powerful and i am very kind."

It takes the power of God to create the universe. And in that book of Job, God really challenged humanity with unanswered questions like...
- Were you there when i set the foundations of the earth?

God greatest delight for his wonderful creature that are created in his own image is to be creative.
Creativity is an in-born gift.
You don't need to be born again to be creative or become a scientist.
But we must acknowledge that all these things are embedded inside life.

To understand this better will also require you to know the difference betwee "Life" and "Existence."

Life is the creator of existence, as their is no non-living thing that can exist on its own without been created by an influence called life.

God is the creator of life.
God said; "And i shall give you life abundantly."
This means that God is not the one embedded inside life, but rather life is the one embedded inside God.

Jesus noted: "I have power to lay down my life and i have power to recieve it back again."

This clearly shows that his living power is not really based on the concept of life and death.

Even when life went out of him in the human form like any other human being, his God-like power and personality was still present.

And remember that what actually exist in the begining was the WORD.
The word was the force that lay down the concepts of God, and the God image.
The word was an expression of power, and it is a spiritual force.


I know that you will still not admit to the truth, but just try to know the difference between Life and Existence, or i should use it to create a new thread.

Stay bless.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Humblebloke(m): 10:58pm On Nov 25, 2015
HCpaul:


Gud... I appreciate your humility, but next time try to use He because he is a male based on gender.


Back to the answer that you requested.



The idea of God is indeed beyond human comprehension, but however, an explanation has to be generated to validate his existence formation.

God was uncreated and in other word, he created himself.
He really came from somewhere, and i could say that he came from the realm present outside the creation.

God is capable of creating himself, and that is why Jesus spoke to us in this manner.
The Bible will never leave us without a witness.

There are two major attributes about the characteristics of God existence.

- Power

- Wisdom

I could see men having confidence in wealth, intelligence and knowledge, and even claiming that knowledge is power which is wrong.

God have his own confidence in his power and his wisdom.

The psalmist identified it this way that "One thing i hear the Lord said, i am very powerful and i am very kind."

It takes the power of God to create the universe. And in that book of Job, God really challenged humanity with unanswered questions like...
- Were you there when i set the foundations of the earth?

God greatest delight for his wonderful creature that are created in his own image is to be creative.
Creativity is an in-born gift.
You don't need to be born again to be creative or become a scientist.
But we must acknowledge that all these things are embedded inside life.

To understand this better will also require you to know the difference betwee "Life" and "Existence."

Life is the creator of existence, as their is no non-living thing that can exist on its own without been created by an influence called life.

God is the creator of life.
God said; "And i shall give you life abundantly."
This means that God is not the one embedded inside life, but rather life is the one embedded inside God.

Jesus noted: "I have power to lay down my life and i have power to recieve it back again."

This clearly shows that his living power is not really based on the concept of life and death.

Even when life went out of him in the human form like any other human being, his God-like power and personality was still present.

And remember that what actually exist in the begining was the WORD.
The word was the force that lay down the concepts of God, and the God image.
The word was an expression of power, and it is a spiritual force.


I know that you will still not admit to the truth, but just try to know the difference between Life and Existence, or i should use it to create a new thread.

Stay bless.

Your god is male....how did you know this.....I tought he was a spirit



You just shot yourself in the foot......

At the bolded........this clearly validates the words of a man who said; if there was no god...there will be a need to create him.....

Shalomgrin

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Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by HCpaul(m): 8:09pm On Nov 26, 2015
Humblebloke:


Your god is male....how did you know this.....I tought he was a spirit



You just shot yourself in the foot......

At the bolded........this clearly validates the words of a man who said; if there was no god...there will be a need to create him.....

Shalomgrin

O foolish and adultreous generation, how long shall i speak insight into your memory.

The existence of God is not an idea, and a need to create him is impossibility.

Before doubting the existence of God, you should have first doubt the existence of your personality.
Did you really exist? Should have been the question.

For mortality to be a reality, then immortality and spirituality is more than reality.

Have this quote.

"Due to the emergence of mordernization and civilization, some set of currupt minded people desired to abolish the theorem that proved the existence of God.
They established a concept, and coined it ATHEISM.
Meaning, THERE IS NO GOD AND THE REALM OF THE UNSEEN.
They invented their belief system and decided to be independent of God.
At the end, they die, and later discovered that their is a God.
They pleaded to the most high, but the most high said to them--- IT IS TOO LATE.






There is a difference between power and knowledge.
Be wise.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Humblebloke(m): 10:47pm On Nov 26, 2015
HCpaul:


O foolish and adultreous generation, how long shall i speak insight into your memory.

The existence of God is not an idea, and a need to create him is impossibility.

Before doubting the existence of God, you should have first doubt the existence of your personality.
Did you really exist? Should have been the question.

For mortality to be a reality, then immortality and spirituality is more than reality.

Have this quote.

"Due to the emergence of mordernization and civilization, some set of currupt minded people desired to abolish the theorem that proved the existence of God.
They established a concept, and coined it ATHEISM.
Meaning, THERE IS NO GOD AND THE REALM OF THE UNSEEN.
They invented their belief system and decided to be independent of God.
At the end, they die, and later discovered that their is a God.
They pleaded to the most high, but the most high said to them--- IT IS TOO LATE.






There is a difference between power and knowledge.


Be wise.


Is it that bad......did you go to elementary school at all


This god you are selling...who wants to be worshipped at all cost...what does *he* have to offer our universe
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by HCpaul(m): 10:52pm On Nov 26, 2015
Humblebloke:



Is it that bad......did you go to elementary school at all


This god you are selling...who wants to be worshipped at all cost...what does *he* have to offer our universe

He want to offer the universe peace, joy, power, salvation, and most especially eternal life.

Mind yu, he ad already offered it.
Be interested.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Humblebloke(m): 11:10pm On Nov 26, 2015
HCpaul:


He want to offer the universe peace, joy, power, salvation, and most especially eternal life.

Mind yu, he ad already offered it.
Be interested.


Joy.... What's keeping him...... Lots of people pray to this invisible sky fairy everyday...dude needs to stop playing hide and seek...

Salvation from what


Enternal life... I'm not interested, don't wanna live forever...... Btw...what problem does it solve
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by HCpaul(m): 11:17pm On Nov 26, 2015
Humblebloke:



Joy.... What's keeping him...... Lots of people pray to this invisible sky fairy everyday...dude needs to stop playing hide and seek...

Salvation from what



Enternal life... I'm not interested, don't wanna live forever......
Btw...what problem does it solve

Even if you want to live forever, you can't.
The children of perdition must surely perish.

Learn to be adapt with fire, because if you miss heaven you can never miss hell.

Their is no neutral kingdom.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Humblebloke(m): 11:25pm On Nov 26, 2015
HCpaul:


Even if you want to live forever, you can't.
The children of perdition must surely perish.

Learn to be adapt with fire, because if you miss heaven you can never miss hell.

Their is no neutral kingdom.

OKay......the usual threatundecided

Why would your god want me to perish
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by HCpaul(m): 11:34pm On Nov 26, 2015
Humblebloke:


OKay......the usual threatundecided

Why would your god want me to perish

When you are not ready to obey his instructions.

Every knowledge i see do have concepts, and like wise skills and business.

Life also has a concept, and the best way to administrate it is to abstain from the concept of death which is sin.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Nobody: 1:03am On Nov 27, 2015
HCpaul:


Gud... I appreciate your humility, but next time try to use He because he is a male based on gender.


Back to the answer that you requested.



The idea of God is indeed beyond human comprehension, but however, an explanation has to be generated to validate his existence formation.

God was uncreated and in other word, he created himself.
He really came from somewhere, and i could say that he came from the realm present outside the creation.

God is capable of creating himself, and that is why Jesus spoke to us in this manner.
The Bible will never leave us without a witness.

There are two major attributes about the characteristics of God existence.

- Power

- Wisdom

I could see men having confidence in wealth, intelligence and knowledge, and even claiming that knowledge is power which is wrong.

God have his own confidence in his power and his wisdom.

The psalmist identified it this way that "One thing i hear the Lord said, i am very powerful and i am very kind."

It takes the power of God to create the universe. And in that book of Job, God really challenged humanity with unanswered questions like...
- Were you there when i set the foundations of the earth?

God greatest delight for his wonderful creature that are created in his own image is to be creative.
Creativity is an in-born gift.
You don't need to be born again to be creative or become a scientist.
But we must acknowledge that all these things are embedded inside life.

To understand this better will also require you to know the difference betwee "Life" and "Existence."

Life is the creator of existence, as their is no non-living thing that can exist on its own without been created by an influence called life.

God is the creator of life.
God said; "And i shall give you life abundantly."
This means that God is not the one embedded inside life, but rather life is the one embedded inside God.

Jesus noted: "I have power to lay down my life and i have power to recieve it back again."

This clearly shows that his living power is not really based on the concept of life and death.

Even when life went out of him in the human form like any other human being, his God-like power and personality was still present.

And remember that what actually exist in the begining was the WORD.
The word was the force that lay down the concepts of God, and the God image.
The word was an expression of power, and it is a spiritual force.


I know that you will still not admit to the truth, but just try to know the difference between Life and Existence, or i should use it to create a new thread.

Stay bless.
so you believe that it is easier to create an omnipotent, omniscient, all powerful, all perfect intelligent being out of nothing, than it is to create life?

wow. just . . . wow.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Humblebloke(m): 6:02am On Nov 27, 2015
HCpaul:


When you are not ready to obey his instructions.

Every knowledge i see do have concepts, and like wise skills and business.

Life also has a concept, and the best way to administrate it is to abstain from the concept of death which is sin.

.....This instruction tho'........ What is *it* and where can I find em'........


You think this justifies burning his own creations in hell for enternity.

You wouldn't do this...if you were a god.......will you
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by HCpaul(m): 12:20pm On Nov 28, 2015
Humblebloke:


.....This instruction tho'........ What is *it* and where can I find em'........


You think this justifies burning his own creations in hell for enternity.

You wouldn't do this...if you were a god.......will you

Stop imaging impossibility.
I will, if i am a God.

The reason you hate God is because you hate righteousness.

Afterall, his commandment ain't grevious.

- Do not steal--- Is stealing a good thing?

- Do not commit adultery--- Is commiting adultary a good thing?

God is not interested in your death, and his delight is not in your destruction.

What makes me cry most is when am meditating on the love of christ.
He said: "Come unto me all you that are heavy hearted, and i will give you rest.
Learn of me, for i am meek and lowly in heart."

We will never force you to believe.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Humblebloke(m): 1:54pm On Nov 28, 2015
HCpaul:


Stop imaging impossibility.
I will, if i am a God.

The reason you hate God is because you hate righteousness.

Afterall, his commandment ain't grevious.

- Do not steal--- Is stealing a good thing?

- Do not commit adultery--- Is commiting adultary a good thing?

God is not interested in your death, and his delight is not in your destruction.

What makes me cry most is when am meditating on the love of christ.
He said: "Come unto me all you that are heavy hearted, and i will give you rest.
Learn of me, for i am meek and lowly in heart."

We will never force you to believe.


Okay..... your god is impossibility..... I know that already


Do I hate god(s)...... Naaah!

Ion just think they exist......

Talking about righteousness...... I love morality,I know lots of people who are morally upright and do not share your beliefs..... I'm one of emgrin

You are probably selling the jewish bible god..... Dude wasn't even morally upright.... If you have read the jewish bible..... You would see the loads of crime he committed.....

-mass murder(killing innocent children),ordering genocides....

If this dude and his book is your basis for morality...... You are on your own..

No you can't......you can only go about threating people with your imaginary hell fire......

How pathetic......This invisible dude is gonna burn his own creations in hell not because they weren't morally upright..... but because they didn't believe in his son(him) who sacrificed himself to himselfundecided.....died for the sins of humanity(even the once they were yet to committ)........ Theory sounds 5tupid....who came up with it tho

How do people like you sleep at night concieving such evil toughtsundecided

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Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by dsquare33: 7:24pm On Nov 28, 2015
I laugh eachtime, I come across Evolutionist trying to validate evolution theory, no matter the theories they conjecture, it will never invalidate the existence of who God is. The Bible says the ways of the Lord is past finding out, God is timeless,which means before the world existed He was, and after the world is no more, He will forever be.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by dsquare33: 7:40pm On Nov 28, 2015
Thank you OP for this beautiful piece, I laugh eachtime, I come across Evolutionist trying to validate evolution theory, no matter the theories they conjecture, it will never invalidate the existence of who God is. The Bible says the ways of the Lord is past finding out, for example a woman without a womb giving birth after prayers, how can science validate that? God is timeless,which means before the world existed He was, and after the world is no more, He will forever be.One thing about God is that when He wants to do that which is beyond ones imagination, natural laws are suspended, for the supernatural to take place.when one ponders on these things, it will make one to acknowledge the supremacy of God.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Nobody: 7:14am On Nov 29, 2015
dsquare33:
Thank you OP for this beautiful piece, I laugh eachtime, I come across Evolutionist trying to validate evolution theory, no matter the theories they conjecture, it will never invalidate the existence of who God is. The Bible says the ways of the Lord is past finding out, for example a woman without a womb giving birth after prayers, how can science validate that? God is timeless,which means before the world existed He was, and after the world is no more, He will forever be.One thing about God is that when He wants to do that which is beyond ones imagination, natural laws are suspended, for the supernatural to take place.when one ponders on these things, it will make one to acknowledge the supremacy of God.
you laugh?
have you ever eaten a banana before? have you bothered to find out how it got that way? or did you think that's how it was created by God?
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by dsquare33: 2:03pm On Nov 29, 2015
Teempakguy:
you laugh?
have you ever eaten a banana before? have you bothered to find out how it got that way? or did you think that's how it was created by God?
Maybe you tell me how God created banana since you know there was a way God created banana.
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by Nobody: 8:07pm On Nov 29, 2015
dsquare33:
Maybe you tell me how God created banana since you know there was a way God created banana.
I thought it was you who laughed at evolutionists because you obviously know a lot more than they do.

explain to me, the origin of the domestic banana then. undecided
Re: The CREATOR, The CREATURE And The CREATION by johnw74: 11:43pm On Nov 30, 2015
God is from everlasting to everlasting, meaning He has no beginning and no end:

Psa_90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

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