Theokleia:
I don't understand you people again oh. wasn't it this same pomzy an some other committed fellow that was singing mantra that they said they'll get back to us before November ends. has November ended biko?
Don't talk like that jare. pomzy, I'm trying to imagine if you wereAbraham in the Bible. After just one year of the promise, you'll go back and ask God if He's sure it's you He meant, lilask dear. :-)

I understand wat pomzy nd most of us might b thinkin ryt nw..u can't really blame him tho, but These were d words of one of d HR on d day of d psycho test "we shld b done wit marking nd all by sunday.after that we'll have 2get authorization b4 We get back 2 u guyz,offer letters shld b ready on or by friday,BUT THERE MIGHT B SOME DELAY"

crossfire47:
I understand wat pomzy nd most of us might b thinkin ryt nw..u can't really blame him tho, but These were d words of one of d HR on d day of d psycho test "we shld b done wit marking nd all by sunday.after that we'll have 2get authorization b4 We get back 2 u guyz,offer letters shld b ready on or by friday,BUT THERE MIGHT B SOME DELAY"

Thank you brother
I for once anticipated delay

Pomzy:

Ha, Engr Maths, how far?
Next year ti je? U won give ppl hypertension?

Lol...hypertension tufkwapa

Pomzy:

Thank you brother
I for once anticipated delay

And delay is not denial....

Like a thief in the night.... When we least expect.... That mail will show.....

SashaF:
Hi. Any recent update from your source?? Is the head of refinery back from his trip?

My Informer said we will know when he gets back. Let be hopeful.

Friends in expectant of Dangote offer...I quite understand how you all felt @ the moment buh d fact is Dangote Group takes their time (like a month n sm weeks) to make necessary arrangement for prospective employees b4 employment offer mail is sent. U guys should be patient and happy considering the time duration it took u to get to dis stage...if I'm not mistaken barely 2 months; so y worry abt offer mail dat would come in due course.

You guys shld remember there are companies that it take more than a year to complete recruitment.

Federal Government you mean

[b]Oil Refinery Career Paths for Chemical Engineers[/b]

Whether you work for a major oil company like ExxonMobil or an independent refiner such as HollyFrontier, refinery engineers have a variety of career paths to explore.



Larger oil companies offer more diverse locations, faster career development, and a greater depth of exposure, but smaller companies also have their perks. In this article I’ll share insights into the different avenues one can take when entering the glorious world of an oil refiner.






While every new grad often wonders where his career will take him 15 years down the line, there are hardly any careers in this world that offer the endless possibilities that one in the oil industry can present. It doesn’t matter if you hold a degree in chemical engineering or one in electrical engineering, every door remains open to capable engineers.



The first thing to recognize is that a refinery career path is very multi-dimensional. Most refinery engineers start their careers in a very technical role - from process engineering to design engineering. However, as time progresses, many engineers find that their experiences diversify to include various management and technical roles throughout the entire organization.



It’s best to view a refinery career path using the diagram below – think of it as 3 x 2 matrix where primary job tasks exist between Engineering, Commercial, and Operations. Within each of the three primary categories, one can progress between Technical and Management assignments.










Many people choose to remain within on field of specialty, while others move around and diversify overall experience. The summary below details the different types of roles accompany each category.





Engineering



Process Engineer:

Most new hires with a Chemical Engineering degree start off as a Process Engineer. Process engineers are responsible for providing technical guidance on operating units within a refinery. They work with field operators, console operators, and unit managers to provide optimization and troubleshooting advice.



Process engineers typically spend 2 – 5 years working on several refinery units before moving on. Next assignments may include project engineering or refinery planning and optimization.





Project Engineer:

Project engineers are responsible for designing and implementing capital improvements to refinery equipment. This can range from upgrades to existing equipment capabilities, or installation of large projects. The scope of coverage can also range from focus on one operating unit, or covering the entire refinery.



Project engineers typically spend 2 – 5 years in role, and can rotate into process engineer or refinery planning and optimization as next assignments.





Process Control Engineer:

Similar to Process Engineers, Control Engineer roles deal with unit optimization and troubleshooting. The difference is that refinery Control Engineers focus all of their attention on software programs that help board operators run their units effectively.



As there is typically only one board operator that often manages operations of multiple units, advanced control programs are used to put many critical control variables into an autopilot mode. Control Engineers are the architects who design and maintain these “autopilot” programs.



Traditionally, Control Engineers often remain in these roles throughout their careers. However, these days Control Engineers have flexibility in some companies to advance their careers into different development roles.





Team Leads:

Within the first 5 – 10 years of working, most engineers do not have to decide between staying on a technical track or moving to a management one. After showing capabilities as an individual contributor, many engineers are assigned a team lead position within the process engineering group or some other technical department, such as project engineering or the environmental group.



Team lead roles still require solid technical capabilities as one often has to provide direction on plant troubleshooting or optimization. At the same time, engineers in this position start developing soft skills such as efficient communication and supervision. If successful in these roles, employees can move onto the management track or into other groups to broaden skillsets.





SME Engineers:

Many people enjoy the thrill of unit troubleshooting, so they end up specializing as a senior process engineer or within one particular process technology, such as FCC or Coking. Although these engineers may not climb the corporate ladder to achieve high salaries or fancy titles, SME Engineers are the glue that keep oil companies operating profitably and safely.



As refineries are complex and dangerous places to work, SME Engineers maintain the institutional knowledge that are often forgotten.





Commercial



Refinery Planning & Optimization:

One likely rotation after engineers complete assignments in process engineering is with the Planning & Optimization department. While these roles are 100% office jobs, don’t think for a moment that engineering or people skills do not matter.



Refinery Planning & Optimization roles are often the toughest ones to take as you will have to understand and manage the entire refinery in these assignments. Roles in this group require coordination of operations, engineering, commercial traders, and maintenance to keep a refinery running smoothly. Assignments in this group also expose engineers to new tools such as Refinery Linear Program (LP) Models (such as PIMS) or scheduling applications (such as Orion).



Typical assignments here include:


Unit Optimization Planning Analyst
Refinery Short Range Planning
Product Blender
Product Scheduler
Refinery Business Planning
Refinery Strategic Planning
Operations Coordinator





Similar to other refinery groups, assignments within Planning & Optimization may last between 2- 5 years, depending on number of assignments taken within this group.





Supply Chain Optimization:

After working as a refinery planner, one has the opportunity to continue development within the commercial world. To deepen interaction with commercial traders and global supply chain resources, one can move to corporate positions with supply chain optimization.



Whether it’s with Feedstocks (i.e. crude oil) or Produts (i.e. gasoline), supply chain optimization focuses on maximizing the value of sourcing a commodity from the origin and delivery to its final destination. This involves negotiation with commercial traders on pricing, to interfacing with logistics agencies, such as Shipping or Pipeline companies. There are 3 main objectives of Supply Chain Optimization:




Purchase material for the cheapest price
Sell product for the highest price
Pay the least to transport it from Point A to Point B





Commercial Trader:

At one point in everyone’s career who spends time in the commercial world of an oil company, they ask themselves if it makes sense to become a trader. The hours are easy, the stress level is low, and the bonuses are fantastic!



A commodities trader at an oil company is no different than any other trader, but this is a small world where relationships matter. It’s a guaranteed fact that one day your refinery will have an upset, and you will need to buy and sell product to cover the market. From crude oil, to intermediate feedstocks, to finished products, commercial traders work to balance the lengths and shorts of a refining system.



People who choose the path of a trader within an oil company often seek long term stability and less movement. A typical trader tenure is 10+ years, and job options often only lead to one other path – the trading manager.





Operations



Operations Management:

As an engineer, there is one typical path for those interested in operations – Operations Management. There are different levels of experience one can obtain within this line of work, but it’s all different shades of the same color.



Operations is purely a management track, and it develops a person’s ability to manage a dynamic range of factors, including:




Personnel safety
Unit equipment reliability
Operating personnel
Unit process reliability
Unit environmental compliance
Operating expense
Energy efficiency
Unit profitability



People on this path typically spend 10 – 15 years within several engineering roles. While commercial roles are advantageous to have, they’re often not common within operations management. For those who have chosen the path of operations, they can find themselves in roles of increasing responsibility, including even the possibility of refinery manager.







A typical refinery should also have a good balance of technical folks in these positions, as well as people who have worked their way up the ranks in operations.





Safety, Health, and Environment


You may have noticed that so far I have not mentioned career progression in the Safety, Health, and Environmental department. While every oil company stresses Safety, Health, and Environment above all other factors, the irony is that no company really has a good plan for developing SHE talent.



Almost to the contrary, individuals find themselves placed in the SHE group often as a result of poor performance in other roles. Makes you wonder about priorities, right? Nonetheless, SHE groups still provide opportunities for engineers to learn about regulatory compliance, government policies, and managing people behaviors.



Refinery & Corporate Management



While I have not specifically covered the different types of management roles that one can assume through the refinery career ladder, just know that they are all available. As refinery and supply chain organizations are complex, it is not uncommon for all management positions to be occupied by engineers.



Most refinery management members do not have MBAs, and most have worked their way up the career ladder. Many employees transition between the various fields of engineering, commercial, and operations, and often possess the ability to explore both technical and managerial opportunities.



It’s helpful to recognize that larger companies have higher management roles to expand into. While independent refiners may have limited positions between Refinery GM and company CEO to fill, large corporations such as BP and Shell have dozens of position to transition into after Refinery GM.


Beyond development within just one specific business unit, the benefit of working for an integrated oil company opens opportunities to different business units, such as Exploration & Production, Chemicals, Research & Development, and Midstream. There are also parallel positions in different countries and continents, so the potential is effectively endless.




The simple truth is that there are insufficient qualified engineers in this industry today. That shortage will take a very long time to balance, if ever. While I’ve summarized a few typical career paths, the reality is that each individual has the flexibility to mold any path into their own.

http://www.refinerlink.com/blog/Career_Paths_Chemical_Engineers_Oil_Refinery

Nice piece... Thanks for sharing!

waiting continues... c u all on friday...

ThinkingCEO:
Another friday don almost end oooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Dangote HR may be thinking next year...

Finally we are getting used to the waiting mode,..... who has been this optimistic and hopeful before .....business idea.. PREDICTnWIN

to predict when the offer letters will show text date and time to 352805 and stand a chance of winning all expense paid trip to dubai this Christmas..... laugh small na haba, no be only you they the waiting room, sorry I mean waiting thread

greatlife87:
Finally we are getting used to the waiting mode,..... who has been this optimistic and hopeful before .....business idea.. PREDICTnWIN

to predict when the offer letters will show text date and time to 352805 and stand a chance of winning all expense paid trip to dubai this Christmas..... laugh small na haba, no be only you they the waiting room, sorry I mean waiting thread

Lolsssss, offer mail might be early or middle December, then resumption January 11th or after....
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That HR man for no mention last week Friday for feedback...people way don get good job with cool pay no know say ain't too good toying with jobhunter's heart....

ksstroud:


Lolsssss, offer mail might be early or middle December, then resumption January 11th or after....
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That HR man for no mention last week Friday for feedback...people way don get good job with cool pay no know say ain't too good toying with jobhunter's heart....

Hmmmmm....you sound pretty informed. Are you speaking based on inside information ......@emboldened

Abdujapha:


Hmmmmm....you sound pretty informed. Are you speaking based on inside information ......@emboldened

"might"

ksstroud:


"might"

Probability statement with a date.....looks deeper to me though

Abdujapha:


Probability statement with a date.....looks deeper to me though

You made me grin.... Maybe you should count out the date....

Enough of this speculations joor

D long wait!!,..Its not a small smtin o...we jst gas take chill pill mehn.

crossfire47:
D long wait!!,..Its not a small smtin o...we jst gas take chill pill mehn.

And pray we don't coke on it

crossfire47:
D long wait!!,..Its not a small smtin o...we jst gas take chill pill mehn.

And pray we don't choke on it

kokaneprodigy:

And pray we don't choke on it

honestly mehn...they really raised our hopes of getting our offers quickly..can't wait 2start working.

crossfire47:
honestly mehn...they really raised our hopes of getting our offers quickly..can't wait 2start working.

dont worry bro. you will be fine

Our letters are coming in today.
Like if you believe, share if you disagree

kokaneprodigy:
Our letters are coming in today. Like if you believe, share if you disagree

Smiles I must confess I adore ur faith But don't u mean mail

The letters will come in its time.... right now, lets deal with December and its festivities.....happy new month y'all

Pomzy:

Smiles
I must confess I adore ur faith
But don't u mean mail

I meant mail to pick up our employment letter na.

Let Us all be hopeful as I can assure us all that Offer letters wil start flowing from 15th december as the HR guy definitely will come in between 10th _15th which makes his leave holiday a month. Just a suggestion thou let's keep our fingers cross on it. Thanks all One Love!!!

Osagbovo2:
Let Us all be hopeful as I can assure us all that Offer letters wil start flowing from 15th december as the HR guy definitely will come in between 10th _15th which makes his leave holiday a month. Just a suggestion thou let's keep our fingers cross on it. Thanks all One Love!!!

Just a suggestion meaning u re assuming?