Observant:


You see how contradictory you sound even to your own self bro?
At the bolded, is war inclusive of this your every means necessary? (You wan igbo, Yoruba and fulani ba....?)Because the last time I checked only one of the big three has championed the course of ever getting you close to that desire of resource control, Despite the continued sabotage and animosity that emanates from the likes of you.
Ndigbo should shove this biafra talk let's enjoy Nigeria while it's last. You don't need a thread like this to know that Nigeria will naturally disintegrate as soon as oil becomes worthless. The North were shouting "Muraba" before oil was discovered, It's naturally expected of them to opt out once oil becomes worthless, the west already have all they need to survive as an independent region.
The ever foolish SS region will be left with a degraded ecosystem, contaminated waters (even fishing una no go see), in just less than 45yrs from now.

@ OP That region is actually linden with utter brainlessness swimming in stupidity. Invariably it appears to have a concentration of low IQ black Africanas.

Quit crying more than the bereaved and face your erosion ravaged land that keeps churning out the highest numbers of criminals and prostitutes year in year out.

Now you can cry me a river .
See painment...smh

Sweetguy25:


Source, source, source.. . . Post your source please

Nigerian bureau of Statistics.
http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/

You guyz think that because a lot of SW cities have a kind of old or worn out look due to their ancient statutes, that automatically translate to them being poorer than you are....
Well, I've got news for you, Venice, Jerusalem and Rome also look old

scholes0:


lagos Island (The old FCT) was ruled by four white governors not Lagos state.
Some Entire SE and SS cities as we know them today such as Enugu, Port harcourt, and Umuahia owe their existence to white british administrators.
The development of Lagos since the FCT was oved to Abuja over 24 years ago has been largely state government indigenous and not FG driven.




so??
South West was once Western region, which comprised of 8 states as well.

You're not kidding me. Lagos was a protectorate of the British government. No south east state was once a protectorate of the GB. Lagos state has been the capital of Nigeria for over fifty years and they inflow of FDI into lagos cannot be matched by any other west african city. The state governments are reaping the benefits of an over pampered British and Nigerian protectorate and nothing else.

scholes0:


Will you provide us with facts or just keep shut!
Jeeeesu!! ...... These people can pull out statements from their butts like no other people I have come across!
I think it is now becoming a known fact all of Nairaland, that anything Igbos on here say should not be taken with any seriousness, because they are 90% of the time purely sentimental or just flatout inaccurate!

Okay, let us compare the King of SE states (Anambra) poverty rate to a typical south Western state.

This is straight from the bureau of Statistics.

[size=13pt]Ogun Vs Anambra[/size]



Okay, let us compare another SE state that Igbos love to brag about so much about; Enugu- A state that we all know is just like Rural Benue or Kogi outside of the its Capital facade.

[size=13pt]Ondo Vs Enugu[/size]



Why are you guyz such pathological liars?
Is it genetic or a mass psychological condition ?

Few of the statistics you posted to support your arguments are hilarious. For example, Ogun State enrolled more students than Anambra but produces less school leavers than Ananmbra State. If Anambra State is in close proximity with Lagos State as does Ogun State, it will amount to insult to compare Anambra State with any other state but Lagos.

scholes0:


Nigerian bureau of Statistics.
http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/

You guyz think that because a lot of SW cities have a kind of old or worn out look due to their ancient statutes, that automatically translate to them being poorer than you are....
Well, I've got news for you, Venice, Jerusalem and Rome also look old

Give me emphatic sources not generic ones please.

See them comparing Venice, Jerusalem and Rome to Yoruba towns. . .

Sweetguy25:


You're not kidding me. Lagos was a protectorate of the British government. No south east state was once a protectorate of the GB. Lagos state has been the capital of Nigeria for over fifty years and they inflow of FDI into lagos cannot be matched by any other west african city. The state governments are reaping the benefits of an over pampered British and Nigerian protectorate and nothing else.

Over 80% of what we know today as Lagos was not pampered by anybody and suffered just like the rest of Nigeria, maybe even worse... due to the massive population pressure from all over the country.

Alimosho, The largest LGA in Lagos is a typical example.
as well as a tonn of others.

Alimosho was established in 1945 and it was under the then western region. Majority who dominate Alimosho were the Egbados. The area is very rich in culture, prominent amongst which are Oro, Igunnu and Egungun Festivals annually celebrated. Aside the cultural heritages, majority of the inhabitants of the council area are Islamic and Christian faithful. However, Yoruba language is widely spoken in the community. Bla bla bla bla

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alimosho

arresa:





http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/147014-enugu-crime-capital-nigeria-survey.html



^^^^ Enugu is the crime Capital of Nigeria.


Please lets deal with facts and not needless chest beating...

i understand u re in pains so i'll give time to get back to normal before i reply you

arresa:





http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/147014-enugu-crime-capital-nigeria-survey.html



^^^^ Enugu is the crime Capital of Nigeria.


Please lets deal with facts and not needless chest beating...

This are the facts from CLEEN Foundation the article you quoted spoke PFF.

armed violence


Kidnapping


Murder


Armed Violence beside Robbery


Rape


Car theft


Physical Assault (The only thing Igbo rankportionher than una)

The only area where they got the statement of "Enugu" has the highest crime rate came ONLY from the physical attack portion of the nation which your yoloba controlled media distorted the fact and use as propaganda. Many of ys have actually read that statistics. South West oit ranked every southern region in terms of crime and as you can see Lagoa equally ranked high

Sweetguy25:


Give me emphatic sources not generic ones please.

See them comparing Venice, Jerusalem and Rome to Yoruba towns. . .

If we are the Rome and Venice of Nigeria, you guyz are the Mumbais and Delhi's of Nigeria.
blocks upon block of urban squalor... Aba comes to mind.
Why won't I compare our cities to Rome and venice/Florence?......... Yorubas have been severally described by outside obervers the equivalents of Ancient Rome/Greece in Tropical Africa. Yup, we are that grandiose.

Go to the NBS Data portal Abeg.
http://nigeria.opendataforafrica.org/

Duru1:



Few of the statistics you posted to support your arguments are hilarious. For example, Ogun State enrolled more students than Anambra but produces less school leavers than Ananmbra State. If Anambra State is in close proximity with Lagos State as does Ogun State, it will amount to insult to compare Anambra State with any other state but Lagos.

That is just the enrollment in Public secondary schools, not all school enrollments, Genius!

scholes0:

Over 80% of what we know today as Lagos was not pampered by anybody and suffered just like the rest of Nigeria, maybe even worse... due to the massive population pressure from all over the country.

Alimosho, The largest LGA in Lagos is a typical example.
as well as a tonn of others.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alimosho

Did you say 80 percent of Lagos? Bros why you dey lie? I don't have the time to dig in and provide facts for you but. . .
How many airports and seaports did any state governor create in Lagos.

coolzeal:
I am a realist and i love when someone challenge my argument with facts.. The Easterners are cheated woefully in Nigeria and exempted in the scheme of things. Disintegration is a must...

There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.
Good morning and happy Sunday.

The south east cheated themselves. Everybody in the south east wants to be king - Anambra comes to mind here. Brothers fighting brothers. Others regions rallying around themselves, but the Ibos always want to be identified individually.

A northern is in power and they scream marginalization. Have they organized themselves properly? Do they have a common ideology? Even amongst the Ibos there is still internal conflict, another reason I laugh at the actualisation of Biafra movement.

The Ibos should stop playing the victim card and wake up from their slumber. The investment outside Ibo land if cited in the South-East would have drawn the interest of Foreign investment. Aba still remains in the dark age.

scholes0:


Nigerian bureau of Statistics.
http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/

You guyz think that because a lot of SW cities have a kind of old or worn out look due to their ancient statutes, that automatically translate to them being poorer than you are....
Well, I've got news for you, Venice, Jerusalem and Rome also look old

One I thing I hate about you...you present FALSE fact, claim it as a source of groups that never said wtf you presented. That's the most descipical thing about you. It is similar to how you provided "FACTS" of ondo labeled the 4th largest oil producing state of Nigeria yet a quick analyzes of the site you copied it from showed Ironically enough the site was made 2years ago which ironically the same year when the argument of "ondo begin the 4th largest began."

Anyway,
This is a statement STRAIGHT FROM NBS website

Currently,Anambra State has the lowest poverty rate in Nigeria.

http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/information/details/Anambra

Thus provide us the so called NBS report you quoted that contradicts NBS statement on their own website. We are all curious to see it

Duru1:


Ibadan was the capital of western region of Nigeria yet there is nothing write home about Yoruba and development as far as Ibadan is concerned. If Biafra is granted a stay side by side with Nigeria for a year, Nigeria will self-destruct.

Hahahaha! Yes o. No development in Ibadan yet 3 Igbos are embarrassing their entire race by fighting over Eze Ndigbo Oyo.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/three-factions-contesting-eze-ndigbo-title-in-oyo/

Ibadan on my mind.

Sweetguy25:


Did you say 80 percent of Lagos? Bros why you dey lie? I don't have the time to dig in and provide facts for you but. . .
How many airports and seaports did any state governor create in Lagos.

I am telling you that the only areas that enjoyed these privileges you keep talking about is The administrative quarters of VI, Ikoyi, Lagos Island and a small part of the mainland.
80% of Lagosians live outside these Zones.

[size=13pt]Until the creation of Lagos State in 1967, which led to the splitting of Lagos city into the present day seven Local Government Areas(LGAs), and an addition of other towns (which now make up 13 LGAs) from the then Western Region, to form the state.[/size]

scholes0:


That is just the enrollment in Public secondary schools, not all school enrollments, Genius!

Guy, keep beating them like a drum. Dem go wail die!

Sweetguy25:


I don't have the time to dig in and provide facts for you but. . .

You better find the time and dig up those 'facts' o, else you'll keep getting flogged Akure style.

onenaira3:


One I thing I hate about you...you present FALSE fact, claim it as a source of groups that never said wtf you presented. That's the most descipical thing about you. It is similar to how you provided "FACTS" of ondo labeled the 4th largest oil producing state of Nigeria yet a quick analyzes of the site you copied it from showed Ironically enough the site was made 2years ago which ironically the same year when the argument of "ondo begin the 4th largest began."

Anyway,
This is a statement STRAIGHT FROM NBS website


http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/information/details/Anambra

Thus provide us the so called NBS report you quoted that contradicts NBS statement on their own website. We are all curious to see it

This is the NBS website.
Go and learn to browse their data portal Abeg. And Anambra does not have the least poverty in Nigeria Abeg.
The NBS just proved otherwise, the UN-Oxford data on Multi dimensional poverty also says otherwise.
That was the same way you guyz were saying the SE produces half of Nigeria's crude oil, until data from the Oil companies showed that all of SE does not even produce as much as Ondo.

Sweetguy25:


Why would the SW folks come to Onitsha when they have Lagos? Onitsha and other Igbo commercial areas are saturated with businesses especially SME's. And lest you forget, there are yoruba's in the east. Enugu, Onitsha et al but given that yorubas arent more adventurous than Igbos, they travel around Nigeria less.

Yoruba folks not heading to the SE for survival has nothing to do with adventure, it's more about basic economics and realities on the ground.

What do you have on the ground for Yoruba people to head to in the SE? Please tell us.

And if there are, why are SE folks trooping out of SE to the SW and leaving these wonderful economic opportunities behind in their own so called comfortable region?

Why are they leaving their own better and comfortable environments just to hustle and slave in poor places in the SW..? Makes no sense...



You want SW/Yoruba folks including graduates to head to Onisha or Aba for what? To peddle wares, make shoes or be apprentices?

Are there serious companies, factories, industries, manufacturing plants, major hotels and so on in the SE for Yoruba people to migrate towards?


Again, makes no sense..

scholes0:


That is just the enrollment in Public secondary schools, not all school enrollments, Genius!

The onus is on you to provide all the statistics in a debate. The one you provided so far is not helping you. By the way, if we shall follow the trend in the public school model, the private school could not sway the trend.

Duru1:


The onus is on you to provide all the statistics in a debate. The one you provided so far is not helping you. By the way, if we shall follow the trend in the public school model, the private school could not sway the trend.

Just browse the data. from their website.
And we were talking about poverty, the part about schools just happens to be in the area I screen shot. The guy I quoted said SW states are alost like north in poverty.
And why is no one talking about the Enugu data? Is it that bad?

arresa:
Fair write up, but a little off, incomplete picture and oversimplification.


Sure, investors look at the Nigerian capital factor, but the number one factor investors think and worry about before siting their investments is safety and security of their investments. The SW remains the safest and the most peaceful, progressive and conducive place to invest in Nigeria. Other factors are availability of skilled and educated manpower and also disposable income.

Lastly, leadership and their ability to seek and drum up investments via favorable terms, trade and investment summits.

Where was this analysis when Lagos hosts trade summits every year including Ehingbeti Economic summit.

Same with Ogun trade summit, Oyo state trade summit and SWITS/SouthWest Investment Trade Summit..

Investments doesn't drop from the tree, you have to work for it..

Investors wont jump into the North, SE/SS to invest anything because of insecurity and instability.

Many questioned Dangote for not investing in the SE, but the man is obviously not regretting his actions if intentional or not after witnessing the destruction of life and property including his own trucks in the SE last week.

Your brain is damn too hot.

Boss13:


The south east cheated themselves. Everybody in the south east wants to be king - Anambra comes to mind here. Brothers fighting brothers. Others regions rallying around themselves, but the Ibos always want to be identified individually.

A northern is in power and they scream marginalization. Have they organized themselves properly? Do they have a common ideology? Even amongst the Ibos there is still internal conflict, another reason I laugh at the actualisation of Biafra movement.

The Ibos should stop playing the victim card and wake up from their slumber. The investment outside Ibo land if cited in the South-East would have drawn the interest of Foreign investment. Aba still remains in the dark age.

Let me direct your attention to 2 threads on NL started the sane day.


1 Thread was about Rochas in Imo state building a flyover bridge and another thread about another flyover bridge under construction in Amambra.


We are talking about 2 credible infrastructures in 2 SE states and something folks from SE states across the board to be proud of collectively, but many folks from the same SE still trashed and ridiculed Rochas/imo state as if he's not from SE and the flyover bridge he's building is not for SE folks and nothing to be proud of.

You don't see the same negative, mentally destructive and anti communal attitude in the SW. What they build in Osun all the way down to Lagos state is a source of collective pride across the board.

I read both threads and shook my head disappointingly..

scholes0:


And why is no one talking about the Enugu data? Is it that bad?

Guy, forget the hype. Enugu is a glorified VILLAGE! Quote me. Na only one small/tiny stretch dey developed. About 2 out of 17 or so Local Governments are developed in the entire state. The rest are big a$$ Villages that are starving for development. Forget the hype, please.

onenaira3:


I quoted NBS DIRECTLY dumb@sss. Attached screenshot. Read the resource portion of the state.

Again, I'll repeat provide us the NBS DATA that contradict NBS own words

BUT where is the data?
Words are not Data.

See him getting all emotional and fired up on estrogen
Loser!.

Flyoruboy:


Guy, forget the hype. Enugu is a glorified VILLAGE! Quote me. Na only one small/tiny stretch dey developed. About 2 out of 17 or so Local Governments are developed. The rest are big a$$ Villages that are starving for development. Forget the hype, please.

Only the stupied gullible population of nairaland believes all that hype.
The state is largely agrarian with a little administrative /services sector in its capital.

Ibo have many problem Yoruba is not one of them
Why do ibo alway antagonist yoruba.......#####
Ibo kip fighting the wrong people.
In the GEJ regime they support very much they nothing apart individual pocket why yoruba man gain was at least
NITEL WE BE RE-LUNCH.

Next thing yoruba man we buy is NIGERIA SATELLITE.
They kip shout they don't need government support but if u check federal appointment from 1999 to 2015 u we see that Yoruba have been marginalized .

htconeline:
Ibo have many problem Yoruba is not one of them
Why do ibo alway antagonist yoruba.......#####
Ibo kip fighting the wrong people.
In the GEJ regime they support very much they nothing apart individual pocket why yoruba man gain was at least
NITEL WE BE RE-LUNCH.

Next thing yoruba man we buy is NIGERIA SATELLITE.
They kip shout they don't need government support but if u check federal appointment from 1999 to 2015 u we see that Yoruba have been marginalized .

Funke Opeke of Main One and a host of others have the ICT under lock and Key.

scholes0:


This is the NBS website.
Go and learn to browse their data portal Abeg. And Anambra does not have the least poverty in Nigeria Abeg.
The NBS just proved otherwise, the UN-Oxford data on Multi dimensional poverty also says otherwise.
That was the same way you guyz were saying the SE produces half of Nigeria's crude oil, until data from the Oil companies showed that all of SE does not even produce as much as Ondo.

In addiction the crude oil propaganda there was ZERO oil companies that,was involved or have any contribution of the link you propaganda. In fact the website itself is a mere 419. The "owner" of the website when googled was in the software developing field, not in the oil industry. When I contacted him directly on his linkeldn account to inquire where he received his data's from, the dude in question had NO idea WTF I was talking about. Thus I went researching the website, ended up finding out the IP address of the site in questioned opened several other domain website all with different owners.

Let us not forget, prior to you providing us a link to the site, there was only ONE visitor throughout the two years it was active. Now since you brought the link to us on NL, it's has 10 visitors in total in the entire two years it is active interesting enough.

http://domainsigma.com/whois/oilrevenueng.org

scholes0:


BUT where is the data?
Words are not Data.

See him getting all emotional and fired up on estrogen
Loser!.

The ounce is on YOU to provide the data you quoted. You provided a "DATA" attributing it to NBS. I provided you a statement from NBS which they concluded using their own data
So since your "data" you attributed to NBS contradicted NBS statement which they obviously deducted from again their data, the ounce is on YOU to provide that contradictory data. I wasn't the one that told you to falisfy a data and attribute it to a group that actually have statement on their links now was I?

Where is the statistics you claimed you culled from NBS...we all are waiting for your link.

Apostrophes shouldn't be used to pluralize words.